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@Elham I’d consider what is the comfort factor which exists in the fantasy, but is believed not to be available in ‘real life’. Unless it’s an alien or something, without the resistance to it, you’ll experience it. Maybe even if it was an alien. The limitation of your wanting & belief you can have it, is yours, not a partners. Have you communicated what you are wanting to your / a partner?
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Pitfalls on the Path This is a summary of some obsticals we might encounter on our journey toward supreme consciousness. We are each a spectrum of various degrees of the pitfalls that make up our shadow side. The shadow playing into the light and the light playing into the shadow. Love-consciousness would be the light side that is half of who we are, would it not? The darkside would be the recalcitrant neglect of cues from body-mind-soul-muse regarding the appropriate care and love-consciousness for self or other. Shadow is perhaps the separate-self-sense's blind concern and focus on that which stops the heart from expanding to infinity. Kundalini and our beliefs about God and spirituality are not important. What is of ultimate value to us is Life, love and relationship. If our kundalini and our beliefs are interfering with our Life, love and relationship then we must do everything within our power of awareness to rectify this situation. 1-Pathological Regression Retreat into infantile prerational uroboric fusion. Indulgence in dissolution and fragmentation; often due to lack of modeling, support, structure or clearly defined developmental framework of ascent that covers all sides of the whole human (survival, somatic, emotional, social, spiritual). Desire to let ones life collapse in the hope of being rescued. Retreat into depression and grief to escape more expansive perception and profound sense of being 2-Running Away Retreat and evasion through dissociation and denial. Inertial holding back to former modes of perception and being. Effort to pull energy down, back and in through substance addictions, heavy food, sedentary lifestyle and through avoidance of "opening" practices and therapy. Secondary fear chemistry due to negative interpretation of kundalini events resulting in panic, paralysis, stagnation, isolation and avoidance. Even running away from bliss and increased wellbeing with various forms of anaesthetization, self-repression and self-destruction. 3-Oblivion Bliss obsession is a preoccupation and addiction to blissful energy, using it as a form of narcotic anaesthetization to avoid real world obligations, survival and development imperatives. Hazy, diffuse, forgetful, preoccupied, heedlessness, day dreaming, castle building, directionless. Lost in fantasy, trance, myth, symbol, story, meaning making, synchronicities and connections. Creativity at the expense of survival, through avoidance of rational discernment. 4-Diffusion Loss of left-brain focusing and hierarchical prioritization. Chain of Being collapsed. Codependency, dependency, false security in catering to the egos of others, coupled with lower-order giving through forms of slavery whereby ones highest contribution is lost in obscurantism, confusion, ambiguity, paradox, double-binds due to the collapse of the hierarchical prioritizing faculty. Indistinct, labyrinthine, vague, leaky boundaries, jumbled, enigmatic. 5-Fixation on Internal Processes Overly fascinated, morbidly curious, distracted by and absorbed in kundalini symptoms, psychic phenomena and newfound spiritual powers (siddhas). This compulsive obsession with symptoms and phenomena feeds inflation and interferes with relationships and functional utility. Possible secondary fear or depression over the temporary loss of adaptive functions and left-brain sharpness. Inability to disembed to perceive emotional storms as psychosomatic events of alchemical cycles. Excessive reactivity to conditions both internal and external. 6-Chasing the Dragon Blindly engaging in practices, stimulants, relationships and events with the aim of rapidly increasing the intensity and speed of the trajectory of kundalini opening. Thereby increasing the danger of more extreme peaks and valleys, which could result in tissue damage, depression, regression and burnout. Self destructive use of the alchemy for thrills, novelty and status. 7-Inflation Expanded psychic ability, high energy and siddhas inflate the ego to feel overly special, superior and unique. This feeds into the separate-self-sense's illusion of an independent existence and promotes selfishness or "my enlightenment for me." World savior, grand mission, martyr, new religions, global ideas, evangelical crusade. Visionary over-estimation of reality and potential, generating the propensity to forcibly impose ones will on the world. 8-Internal Exploitation Turning the sacred into the profane. Lack of integration between the levels, coupled with disillusionment about achieving "higher goals." Hence exploitation of sex/kundalini/muse energy for "worldly goals" of power, status or monetary gain. "Using" oneself is an introverted symptom of inflation. The more we exploit ourselves the more others exploit us. Treating ourselves as a resource without regard for our spiritual welfare. 9-External Exploitation Using powerful psychic and siddha powers to exploit others in order to fulfill ones own drive for power, status or monetary gain. Lust, usurpation, manipulation, dominator-hierarchies. Power mongering is an extraverted symptom of inflation. The more we exploit others, the more we exploit ourselves through turning the sacred into the profane. Treating others as a resource without regard for their spiritual welfare. 10-Projecting Spirit Transference onto Gurus, lovers, alien or channeled entities, angels, saints etc...in disownership of ones own alchemical process, soul and muse. Feels like a powerful force enacting on us from outside, sometimes seeming too great for mortal endurance. Externalization of internal archetypal aspects (Great Attractors) ultimately resulting in our reclaiming them as our own through the pain generated by the projection. 11-Formalism Entrenched preoccupation with appearances, rules, forms, formulas, dogmas, details, rituals and traditions of religious sects. Fanaticism, orthodoxy, fundamentalism, letter of the word, conservatism, conventional, spiritual materialism, elitism/exclusion, need to "belong." Feeds into power, pride and defense systems of the psyche. 12-Perpetual Seeker Looking for wholeness and Self outside oneself. Fragmentation due to lack of coherent integration, individuation and boundary definition. Spirit always over the horizon, without serious intention of achieving Self, due to resistance to sovereignty and autonomous choice. Tendency toward projecting Spirit and formalism. Need for parental figures as there is an unconscious commitment to remain immature, obsequious and surrender ones personal power. Bottom dog trying to gain power through connection to a Guru or power figure. 13-Addiction to Cognition Inability to relax into the spaciousness of the transrational due to tenacious drive of the mind to "know." Unwilling to let go of focal, associative, analytic mind in order to transcend and include it in "whole-seeing" and full spectrum consciousness. Resistance to relinquishing the myopia of the representational mind and thus avoid uniting the relative will with the Absolute Will; perhaps due to lack to lack of faith or knowledge that there is anything higher than intellect. 14-Absolute Knowledge Loss of growth potential by closing off to new information due to the hubris of a premature claim to enlightenment. Rigidified bubble of the known as a defense against chaos, dynamism, dissolution and breakdown--thereby preventing resurrection to a higher order. Bombastic grandiose omniscience. Cults, obdurate, implacable, inflexible, rigid, unshakable, stagnant. Arrogance, self-righteousness, self-justification, vanity, pride, top of the heap. Forgets beginners mind due to inflation hence is ignorant of ones ignorance. 15-Spiritual Bypass "Premature transcendence--high level denial. Avoiding painful psychological issues by immersing oneself in a rigorous spiritual practice, or focusing on experiences of transcendence within the Kundalini phenomena to the exclusion of processing trauma from the past." - Michael Dubois 16-Abiding in the Absolute "Holding the absolute dimension so tightly that we can't see all the relative learning that we still have to do. Trivializing the sense of relative impermanence amidst the artificial perfection of what can seem like a permanent awakening." - Michael Dubois 17-Blinded by Clarity "When inner Vision and Intent become so clarified and overpowering, that the clarity itself fixates attention on a limited range of perceptions/interpretations/possibilities. Polishing the interpretive lens so thoroughly, that the lens itself becomes invisible as an object of perception." - Michael Dubois 18-Cosmic Paradox Religious forms kill the human spirit or stop it evolving, because religions, churches and ashrams are attempts to legitimize that which needs no legitimization (I am That). And in so doing, a defense against illegitimacy (evil) is set up, which perpetuates evil (self/other separation). Rather, what needs to occur is education in inclusivity, global embrace, We-thinking and the observation that the ego will always try and separate and elevate itself above the crowd in an attempt to acquire legitimacy (good), power and significance. From: http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php@story=PitfallsonthePath.html
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Here is a question: What is there to want other than consciousness, this, and/or an alien banana peel (etc.)? I cannot find want, but there is a force that drives this. And so I conclude that I must align with whatever is true. My question is, why would you do anything else? - I have so many objections: I am deluded (probably true), I do not deserve it as I have not done enough work to subscribe to any insight; all insights are illegitimate because of this, I am not psychologically ready nor physically ready, I have do not have any success so I will constantly be faced with the pressure of leaching on society as opposed to pulling my own weight. (I am working on all these things at the moment) - Perhaps I'm talking shit. And I assume I am in dangerous waters as I came to this conclusion in my notebook and not looking at my hand, but then again I do look at my notebook.
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Hello. I'll start by saying this: DEATH IS A REAL THING WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. Why am I saying this? I'm saying this because life is temporary. I'm not denying that after death remains nothing or darkness or a state of dreamless sleep or (a) void or even emptiness. After death, there might be something like consciousness. I don't deny it. Death means the dissolving of your body, your character or the disappearance of life as you know it. A lot of people don't like the concept of death because they resent the fact that life is temporary. Even in my case, I don't like the fact that life is temporary. Let me tell you why. The reality we live in is extraordinary. Life comes with an amazing structure. Noting is more beautiful than life. Not even the consciousness itself. Not even the entire universe. Because consciousness and the Univers itself are impersonal. Consciousness is not comparable to the human mind; the human mind is something unique; it's something much more beautiful than anything else. Why do you think that there is a human mind? Why do you think that the human mind is as it is? Because the human mind has found its way out of everything else... and that's the beauty of it. Our minds are unique and foreign to consciousness. They are not from this realm. Let me state it a little bit different. Our minds are alien to anything that consciousness produces because the mind is not a product of consciousness. This is not a delusion or merely just thoughts. It is something that has to be discovered by yourself. The only thing foreign or alien to everything that exists in consciousness is the human mind. Nothing can be more beautiful than the human mind.
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MrDmitriiV replied to Pharion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Pharion There are studies on animals being given psychadelics or drugs. Most notable is when an octopus was given MDMA, despite being one of the most "alien" creature on this planet, it reacted very similarly to humans: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/sep/20/mdma-makes-octopuses-more-sociable Dolphins for example can recognize themselves in the mirror, and as teenagers will voluntarely take psychadelic plants to get high. There are various ways to experience God at a meta level. Take different psychedelics and you'll see. A lot of aliens, animals and AIs will be able to experience spirituality in different w This would be true if "exponential" growth was taken out of equation. Exactly 100 years ago the world's best scientists were saying we won't fly into space in a very long time (if ever) only to be proven wrong a few decades later. World's best AI scientists just a decade ago were doubting we'll create an AI which'll be able to beat someone in a game of Go (which requires creative/intuitive, non-brute force thinking) and yet we already did that. History has proven time and time again, that even the best guys in any field are very bad at predicting future advancements, let alone someone like Leo who obviously is not a proffesional in AI. -
pluto replied to Fede83's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It all comes down to how much you resist the truth. I personally dwelled in the dark my whole life so when i had a spiritual awakening it was the most amazing thing to ever happen to me and i recognized fully that this is my true form, my true state, my natural state so i transitioned smoothly because it was completely home to me, familiar on all levels, nothing alien about it, so there was minimal resistance in the process. Of course challenges can occur afterwards if you lose your way and drift off the path but it can easily be restored once again. -
I am aware of that statement and that you are aware of what I speak of in terms of how things are. Our disagreement is in the framing, the usage of language to communicate this understanding. I don't subscribe to the idea that all frameworks are equally valid or useful for us, especially in terms of our existential investigations. In my eyes the materialist paradigms and their resulting "non-materialist"-paradigms (which stand in opposition to the materialist paradigm and are essentially a spawn of it, and therefore attached to it like a tick) are very unnecessarily vague, confusing and conflating because all of them stemmed from a deeper unconsciousness. Once the consciousness increase these frameworks have been kind of made to work from within that consciousness level. I would prefer for us to actually construct a cleaner framework that is specifically detached from the limited materialistic framework and does not require to stand in opposition of it, but rather is it's own evolutionary pathway of frameworks. Whether we like it or not but these frameworks have an impact on our consciousness and how we view the things we are talking about. Instead of having a framework that works against the essential nature of Oneness, Non-duality and so forth we can construct them in ways so they streamline these aspects. Things like "Perception, Mind, Relativity" always stand in contrast to the Materialistic Framework. They are essentially part of it, and in my eyes it is obvious that the usages of these concepts will keep as trapped, to a certain degree, in that paradigm. Basically what I am trying to say is that due to our unconsciousness in the past we have created entire languages and concepts based on that level of consciousness. When we are using that same language on a different level of consciousness we will naturally come to the limitations of that language and these concepts, which is happening all the time. And this is not mere surface level, this goes really, really deep. I don't see a lot of people adressing this problem while to me it seems like it has helped me increase my consciousness quite significantly. Think of if a high consciousness alien was to construct a language, what words would it never even come up with that we keep using all day. How would it refer to different kind of objects when objects themselves are part of the language framework and therefore more of conceptual clumps than anything else? There are a lot of things that would look completely differently. To me Leo and a lot of people when using language and attempting to communicate non-dual Truth are banging their heads against the wall. While of course this is obviously inevitable to a certain degree, I do think we could make it far more comprehensive if we were to adjust our language significantly.
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Hello. I need some help as I currently find myself in a confusing place. For my entire life I have been living within the realm of the mind. I have been completely unaware of my power as in infinite creator on this Earth. And now that I have come into understanding of this power in the past year and more so in the last two months I find myself at a point of transformation and transition. You see a few months ago I quit my job. This was one of the best decisions that I could have made for myself, mentally, physically and spiritually. It was an OK job by society’s standards but it heavily damaged my soul and for the three years I worked there my life was in a very dark place. I have enjoyed the past few months and they have been the best time of my life so far. I have grown immensely in a short time. However my monetary funds are beginning to lessen and this has created an anxiety in me. My true passion in life is the study of spirituality, ecology and human development and I am writing a book on the subject of Ecopsychology. However this is a huge endeavor and while I have made great progress on the book every cell in my body feels called to place all of my energy towards the completion and publication of my book. However when I look at my external reality I do indeed feel an air of anxiety when it comes to how I will do this. Every cell in my body is telling me to not go back to getting a traditional job. And yet over the last month there is one job offer that is continually appearing in my life and I have no desire to accept this job. I do wonder if this job offer continually appearing in my experience is a test of faith and or an external manifestation of my fear. Whenever I think of working this job I do not see light in my minds eye, only darkness and subsequent pain. I guess what I am trying to ask is, how do I know if something is truly for me or not for me if it keeps appearing in my life? I am very keen on making good decisions and am quite a decisive person so this level of confusion within me is unsettling. I am going to meditate on this as I have a feeling that my intuition is telling me to not regress back into old fear based ways of thinking and perceiving reality and thus that it would be in my best interest to follow the path I feel guided towards even though I cannot see the steps. I have never had this much faith before, this is new alien territory for me but I know that I cannot go back. Again the thing I am struggling with is the discerning whether the reoccurring job offer is a temptation, a test of faith to see if I will fall back to my old ways or if I will truly transcend my fears and go towards a new version of myself and access a new level of my life? All I know for certain right now is that I have to trust the process 100% even though I cannot see ahead and have a knowing that the universe has my best interests at hand and truly does want the best for my unfolding life in this realm.
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Leo sometimes talks about rebirth and how you never die once you become the “God Head” when you die you will get bored and create yourself again so what is it cuz he never talks about this topic clearly I value his opinion and curious to know what he says. Will you be self conscious when you die?, Like will you be like ohhh I’m dead lol or you just rebirth right away into some 8 legged alien and your memory is reset.?
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Pouya replied to Pouya's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Inliytened1 @Serotoninluv Thw funny thing is, the more present I become, the more everything look so alien and surreal. How can verbal answers even capture these! It's just my mind wanting verbal answers which it can't really get. But what happens when a hammer hits my face and crushes my skull? Why is there something being thretened? What is being lost? -
Alien chicks be lookin hella thicc when you're weeks into nofap
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This is my solo retreat report. I hope it will inspire you to do something like this yourself. Over a month ago I started my 4 week solo retreat. I was quite ready for this. I rented a tiny cabin with no electricity, no water. Spartan conditions, but it was extremely cheap and all I could afford. It was not easy. I quickly found myself in an ocean of suffering and bliss. These two would swap back and forth, varying in intensity and duration. It didn't take me long to realize that the greater the challenge I faced, the more profound the insight at the end and the stronger the bliss following it. This kept me going through the hellish phases. Just a day or two in, I realized that no meditation technique would do. I was not in charge. All I could do was be quiet and watch as life expressed itself through me by spontaneously contemplating the right questions, than inspecting the body, then forgetting all and surrendering completely, then other activities still. I think it was day 3 when the kundalini stuff started to happen. Good thing I heard about all this many times. If I didn't, I'd probably go crazy. In my meditations unspeakable stuff was happening in my body, visions more real than reality would come to mind and I had problems discerning what was true and what was false. Many times my body got so blocked up I thought I would die, only to be forced into an even deeper surrender. Nights were no relief either. Lucid dreams full of trials and challenges awaited me. Alien abductions and meeting gurus, sages and stuff like that. In short, it was a hell of a ride. Fortunately, after about 3 days this subsided. Deep contemplations started to take place uncovering old traumas, unmet desires and such. It was beautiful. On day 14 I had the biggest insight of the retreat. I was contemplating Consciousness itself, when I realized that it is no different from Love. Than I remembered the Hindu concept of Sat-Chit-Ananda (Being-Consciusness-Love), looked closer, and sure enough, this Consciousness-Love was not different from Being either - meaning me. I bathed in this unbounded state for a couple of hours looking over a beautiful pond nearby. I came to the conclusion that I was done here, after 2 week out of 4. It has been 16 days since I came home now. A lot has changed, and nothing at all. I am clearer than ever about what I want, need and value. My life has a much deeper sense of purpose and authenticity. My contemplation skill just sky rocketed. I realized what contemplation is, and it is such a joy to do it even hours a day, as I now know that I can go all the way to the truth of anything I want to know. And since I believe, I make it happen. I have had issues with eating for a long time, even though my diet was good. A lot of shame and guilt always plagued this arena of my life. After a particularly bad meal on the retreat and a deep introspection afterwards, I asked desperately - "How the fuck do I solve this?". And the answer came - "Just ask.". I realized the ability to ask about any food and I will get an answer from inside - it tells me if I should or shouldn't eat. Quickly I realized this works for any question with yes and no. I can ask about anything and know if it is 'yes' or 'no', but it's not always easy to ask and follow the answer. This often takes balls and and losing a fat piece of ego is common here. Soooo... go do it. Spend time alone. Forget it all. Immerse yourself in yourself. You won't believe how much bullshit you are buying into. Thank you Leo, you were one of the ones who inspired me to do this!
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Preface: This was the first proper trip after my last one which was preceeded by a panic attack and subsequent ego death. I was not entirely sure if I was ready for another round however I felt really good this morning and decided to go in again. The Come Up: Just like last trip the body panicked upon intake of the tea. However this time I was able to stay completely calm. The heart and stomach were beating, yet the mind was calm and clear. And after a couple of minutes the body panic stopped and the trip started. The trip: After the heart beat returned to normal there was a simple sentence that came to me: "Remember, the Darkness is the Light". And as it turned out this should be theme of the trip. The Darkness The trip started of dark. Really dark. Mushrooms can be like that. Someone once wrote here that it's kinda like being dropped of on a random planet. Pretty accurate I would say. Well this planet was at war. I had a vision of someone being tortured. Me being the one leading the interrogation and the one taking the pain. I had vision of a couple young boys having a fight and beating the living shit out of each other. I had a vision of an Asian genocide happening before my eyes. Lastly I had a vision of some violent alien race pillaging the galaxy... led by some sort of hive mind. Note, I include this to be accurate. I don't know if there is any truth to that whatsoever. Yet it kinda felt like a warning. The Shadow After all that darkness I decided to take a little break. Once I came back from taking a piss I lied back down and the darkness revealed itself as the shadow. The male shadow to be exact. The male shadow is anger. And, very interestingly the female shadow is deception. I have not studied shadow work yet, however this is my direct experience. Both energies seemed to be wounded deeply and I had visions of both being acted out by people I know. Then I was also shown how to be a man. Being a man entails dealing with that shadow and shining a light on it (note that everyone has both male and female energy). And very interestingly it includes homosexuality. I have one gay friend however I noticed that I have a bit of a resistance towards being gay. That resistance was surrendered. This side of me which was resistant was able to be re-integrated. I still like women last time I checked but I feel more whole as man. The Light After all of that the Light came. I still had some violent visions however this time it was different. There was a light shining through. There was a particular scene I remember. The light merged with the darkness becoming pure light setting the scene in stone. I remembered that all that darkness is Love. It is light. It is Goodness. Love (with a capital "L") includes all of it. It is it. It is the darkness and the shadow. That is what pure Love entails. And why all the darkness? Out of Love. The Voice I still wanted to break through to God and tried to surrendered further. Then, for the first time I was able to see existence as a projection. It's a hologram. It has no substance. What we call life is a projection onto the screen of consciousness. The body is a thought and has no absolute essence. The mind is illusory and has no absolute essence. My birth is a story. I am a story. What I call "me" is a character in a game called life. It has no essence. What is left then? Isness. Pure self aware Isness. Why is there a voice inside of my head? Most of the breakthroughs I had were kind of narrated by the voice in my head (until the event horizon was passed so to speak). This time I could see how the voice lost itself. It still narrated but it lost itself in a sort of echo chamber of God. It too had no essence of itself. I, as God was talking to myself. There were no bells, whistles of ecstasy this time. It also wasn't a complete breakthrough. More of merging in and out of Nonduality. That's it. Short and sweet. Most important (for me at least) was to be able to face the fear and jump into the deep end again. There is still work to do. Don't know when I will trip again though. Have a good one! Much love
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You can though enter deep state of delusion that will push forward your belief into distorsion of what 'is' Your mind create synchronicities and all sorts of 2.0 delusion. Kundalini is the Time where you'll get the more open to building spiritual bs ego. Only fucking reality is your hand. If you see a ghost or Channel an alien. Slap your face harder. I think kundalini is psychosis born from a deep fear created by delusion. Body go fight or flight and most insane things. But that's good you are purged from your first delusion Implanted by society. But the thing is. Society is based on Magic thinking. Most people keep having ghosts and don't see any hands. The whole society is an halloween show Paranormal is created by an ultimate bullshitting on yourself. ( Fucking your belief system basicly ) Your mind will distort reality based on your own delusion/expectation. That's just you never know how powerful it is when bs is cleansed. So when you see the power of the mind, the human ego start believing all sort of New stories worst than the first narrative of society. ( Spiritual ego ) But clean your door of perception. Society is basicly a delusion aswell.
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Eph75 replied to Dylan Page's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
At the end of the day, the reality you live is what it is. Gaining understanding of it changes the dynamics between "you", your identity, your wants and needs. This understanding affects your "whys" and allows you to strive for things for the "better" reasons, let's just say "for the hell of it" or "because you can" rather than because you have to in order to achieve happiness. With said understanding you can find the happiness you are looking for right where you are, it is right here and right now. It is just a matter of learning to see in a new way. Once you do that your desires, want and needs have changed. They do no longer own you but that does not mean you cannot own them. The world is your playground and you can do whatever you want. If you still want to fill your illusion of existence with something particular, you can. It is not likely to be a materialistic drive or hunger for power, those things start seeming alien to you. That does not mean you have to feel "meaningless" and go live and meditate in a cave or something lile that. It is interesting to see how many people are scared to "let go", fear of losing something kicks in. But what if all you loose is your limitations? They will not be missed. -
The more and more i go on the more i realize what others say are mind fantasies. Including leo. If you study all those teachers you will get nothing out of it, only waste of time. The only way to go is to work on it Yourself. And the funny thing is, you can do the practices and you can have a very different awakening. For example, you might get the insight that the universe got created by an alien and you can communicate with him. He can tell you every secret and you can become his best friend, but how does this prove that it is true? What about those other teachings? What are they? You can have a very unique strange insight that nobody here on earth has, and you can be convinced that since you are the only one knowing it, you must have the truth (Like Leo does). If everybody can have it's own awakening, does all of this work make no sense? But more interestingly, does this not prove that maybe there is nothing beyond nothingness and we all the meaning we give to certain experiences, are just, like somebody else pointed out, ego trips? The idea that nothingness=Love or god is aware of himself can be false. You can have the same awakening and realize that nothingness=Alien can't you? It's just the ego interpreting it in a different way when it comes back. Good luck finding the truth.
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All progression is not good why it should be ? Should we progress from living walking to living sitting ? Progression is a delusion. Things change. That's the only reality. When we are all gay and peaceful. Alien will rape us to the death. That's a metaphor but it point to 'perfect' 'better' as arbitrary. It can only look better from a perspective. I got my idea on progression in society from Aldous Huxley - the divine within Progression is just the movement of universe. That's not aiming toward an utilitarism helping the overall society. This is a delusion but it doesn't maximize anything. But sure as an I.. Certain politic seams to work better for me. Relative position for me. What feed me.
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cetus replied to MusicalPotato's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes that too. And once it was an alien takeover. When I realize it's a dream i think "what am i running from? Turn around and face them head on. One dream was of a huge evil sea creature that came onto the beach. i was running away from it when i realized it was a dream. So I manifested a sword and turned him into chum. -
My inner work and self reflection has led me to a place where I wanted to confront my subconcious. I wanted to see myself from another perspective and look into my being from the outside, beyond my own personal bias and ego. I had meditated for a while on this which led me to think about taking psychedelics. I booked a trip to Amsterdam in Europe and me and my friend both took 20 grams of Dolphins delight truffles in the hotel room (Both begginers) The come up was something I had never experienced before. I suddenly burst out laughing, losing control of my actions and thoughts unable to look at my friend without laughter. I then suddenly felt myself jolted into a new frequency and reality. My world became like an oil painting as I was teleported into another dimension. The first thing I saw was the patterns on the carpet changing colours and moving. The structure of the pattern looked like an alien dancing infront of me. I then looked at the TV and could see the female on the screen now appearing 3D and reaching out to me. I was then given one of my first spiritual insights of the day. I began looking at everything in the world which seemed to embody the essence of my father. The TV, the bed, the windows, my face, even the concept of time and space seemed to somehow represent my father. I visualised my genetic father in everything. I began to understand that I am an extention of him in the anchestrial ladder of existence. His experience is embodied in my experience. I realised that I cannot help but view the world through the lens of what my father taught me since I was a younger child. We learn a lot as children and some of our deepest held beliefs and mental indexes/belief fragments can come from these times that become some of our strongest inner convictions. Am I just a reflection of my father? Is this a bad or a good thing? I began to relax and just experience. The psilocybin began to attack my identity. Suddenly depressive thoughts raced to my awareness. ''You are taking psychedelics in a hotel room with a male friend and you are a loser'' I couldn't shake off this negative mindset the shrooms were showing me. Time itself began to collapse and I was in a four dimensional bubble looking through time from the outside. I saw time as a series of changes like the seasons. With each season that came up completely changed my mood. I felt happy one moment and then sad the next. I could hear a bell outside which would strike every 3 minutes or so and everytime it struck it changed my awareness and mood. My friend felt the exact same thing. The happy season was fun and interesting but the cold season came on abruptly and made my world cold and unbalanced. My friend was pacing up and down the room which started to annoy me. I turned to my friend and yelled at him to stop pacing (he paced around the room for 2 hours asking if I am okay) I then tried to get away from the world and hid under the bed covers. I looked up and didn't feel disconnected from the world at all and came back to the surface. I then tried to let all emotions run through me and just be and experience. At this moment the shrooms began messing with me and threw me out of the trip. It was the strangest thing because I felt like I hadn't taken any. Suddenly I was thrown back into the trip and my 'just be'' philosophy was forgotton as the naughty mushroom I thought I was possessed by was messing with my ability to control the trip. The next phase became a bit more scary. I began to panic as I thought I had overdosed. I started hearing paramedics outside my hotel room which sounded like they were trying to get in. I ran to the door and opened it and no one was there. I then started searching on my phone about magic truffles and I saw a big red screen which i imagined said ''We are the paramedics trying to get to you'' - I seemed to think there was an ambulance inside my phone trying to get to me. I ran into the bathroom and envisioned repeatidly smashing my face into the sink. I could feel the blood gushing down my face and see my teeth smashed as I stared into the mirror. I then could hear my friends thoughts. He said things like ''Help, he just tried to kill himself'' - at this point I knew I had taken too many magic truffles. My friend was having an extremely bad time as well as both of us were convinced we were about to die. Then my reality seemed to break down into three as I found it difficult to trust these realities. The first reality was simply the magic truffles had taken a hold of us, the second was my friend was trying to kill me and the third was we had overdosed and needed urgent medical assistance. Suddenly 2 hours went by and I cannot remember much of it. My friend told me I tried to eat a mars bar to save myself from the trip but It had been unsuccessful. The day suddenly went dark and I had no recollection of what happened. Slowly, after about 6 hours my friend started to come out of the trip. He tried to get me to remember who I was and picked up fragments of why we were there. I tried to follow him and it only slowly started to come back as I was stitching my reality back together again. As I was coming out of the trip and could feel more coherent I began babbling some spiritual insights that seemed to not come from me ''I am the centre of the universe that powers it. Nothing exists outside of me. ''I am eternity and nothing at all'' ''I truly exist inbetween thoughts'' ''I am everything that I don't have'' At this point I started to come out of the trip suddenly. My friend broke down in tears as I just realised I had the most profound experience. My friend swore to never do psychedelics again as I realised that my journey had just begun. As a conclusion to anyone wondering I never hurt myself on the sink and I had just visualised it but it never happened. My goals now are to get even deeper into my own spirituality, psychology, philosophies and experimentation of psychedelics and experiences. Even though I had a bad trip, it did not feel like a bad trip? I just see it as 'it just is' rather than trying to apply a label to it. Everything is beneficial which expands experience and self-awareness.
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It won't take hundreds of hours, maybe even 10 minutes. Just think about everything as if you are that particular thing. You are definitely every atom in every grain of sand on the earth and every other planet in the known universe. Imagine being every individual one, not aware of the others, or even being all at once. Imagine how your life would be different, what opinions you would have if you were born into a different person on the other side of the world, how about the other side of your city? Or even what if you were born into the body of a sibling? Or both of your parents? Every person on the planet, even the murderers, the more fortunate, the less fortunate, the slaves, the slave owners? Look at things from the perspective of a human trafficker, from the victim, from the perpetrator. But don't stop there, you could think about being every different species of animal there is, every alien species we haven't even discovered. That is one of the fastest ways to gain perspective in my opinion. Good luck friend.
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I don’t think the issue is not being able to understand it. If a normie visited a website for calculus professors, they won’t understand any of the calculus. There is no problem. . . The problem occurs when there is a misunderstanding. If a normie visits a calculus website and interprets the math to mean that an alien is stalking him, then that would be a problem. A couple examples of misunderstandings on the forum that cause people problems: You create all of reality is misunderstood as solipsism. . . . There is no objective meaning is misunderstood as nihilism. I would say that an adult would have much higher chance of misunderstanding problems than a child, because the adult as more filters through which misunderstanding would occur. For example, if we teach a child about nonduality and that we are all interconnected and One, it would not be traumatic to the child. Yet if we teach this to an adult, it can trigger a traumatic existential crisis since the adult has been highly conditioned into a self construct. They will be very threatened by nonduality because they want to protect their sense of self. I would go one step further and say it’s actually beneficial to teach children about nonduality before they become fully conditioned into duality, separation and contraction into a personal self. This conditioning creates the suffering and trauma. As well, the de-conditioning can cause discomfort. Yet through it comes liberation and love. If children learn about nonduality before dualistic conditioning, it would be beneficial. This will be part of education in the future. As the average conscious level of society increases, parents that are self-actualized will naturally teach their children about constructs of self and nonduality. This will lead to healthier people and healthier societies.
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Girzo replied to Focus Shift's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Never start with a hike, you can do that after the peak. LSD is just too demanding for that. I prefer solo. With others I am too absorbed caring about their wellbeing. Oh and poo-poo before. Caring content in intestines makes you feel like an actor from the Alien movie. -
The Many Facets Of Awakening - List of Top 30 Enlightenment Insights //posted from youtube comments List 4:44 Mystical Experience - Not enlightenment - Its a state of consciousness -feeling that all is One 6:16 No Self - No such thing as body - Deep Insight - Distinct from Mystical - Can be combined 8:10 I AM - Deepest Truth, The Self - A deep feeling of I AM - Universe 11:40 OMnipresent - You are everything everywhere - Not located anywhere 13:13 Realizing what consciousness is - Real Consciousness - Experience required - It's everything - No external reality 14:35 Realizing what is awakening - it's not WOKE AF - Life is a Dream - Shatters reality - Satori 17:00 Oneness or non-duality -Everything is truly One - You don't understand what Oneness really mean - Literally All One 19:00 Everything is Relative - Taco and human is the same 19:35- Realizing what is Truth, Truth with capital T - Truth and consciousness is One - You know what Truth really means - You have to awaken first 20:40 Realizing what is the Absolute - To be Absolute - 99.999 of people have no reference for it - True under all events - You have to awaken first 21:40 Absolute Infinity - Not a number - Actual Infinity - Everything is absolute infinity - No end to it 23:57 Absolute Nothingness - Nothing ever happened - Identical to infinity - You can experience both or separate 24:25 - Knowing why is there something rather than nothing 25:55 Knowing what is God - What God is pointing to - 99.999 No idea what it means - Godhead 27:15 Realizing You are God - God is You - Very important - You are the creator - May take multiple awakening to achieve this 29:52 Self= Other Other= Self -It's just your imagination - You as God are all alone - Come face to face that there's no one but You - Very shocking - You might feel your insane - Everything you do is with yourself 32:54 Realizing what is Love - Emotional Insight - Consciousness is Love - Love is the fabric of the Universe - All Evil is Love - You spend most of your life hating people fighting evil - A bitter pill for ego - Truth and Love are identical 35:50 Realizing everything is imaginary - Everything is Mind - Infinite Mind - It's your Mind - It's all imaginary 38:40 Self-Design - You are creating yourself - Every hair is as though I planted it myself with Infinite Mind - You designed the Universe 40:50 Realizing what your birth really is - You were here forever - You never were born - You imagined you were born 42:45 Eternity / No-Time / Absolute Now - No past or future - Everything is in the Now - Eternal is outside of time - Even your body is eternal 44:23 Realization of what is Death and Immortality - There is no past or future - Death is imaginary, a story, and ego created. - You're immortal 46:25 Paradise / Heaven / Perfection - Heaven is right here - Heaven and Hell are not physical locations - When you realize your immortal you'll be in heaven 48:00 Bliss / Ecstasy - Not just extreme pleasure - It's infinitely good - Cosmic orgasm 49:33 Infinite intelligence - It's not high IQ Its Being -Everything is intelligence - Its all the Mind of God 53:32 Goodness - Everything is Absolute Good 54:35 Realizing what is Will (Infinite Will of God) - Everything is though the Will of God - Manifests everything Now - Not mechanical - The human will is a tiny sliver of Gods Will 56:47 Unlimited Power - Create whatever no Laws - Human is God in a limited form 58:13 Omniscience - Incredible experience 59:20 Divinity / Magic / Mystery - The human experience is divinity - You walk down the street an everything glows at you - A deep and profound mystery - You don't know anything 1:01:00 Realizing what is Being - Substance of reality 1:02:15 Realizing Universe is an Infinite Fractal - You can zoom in and out 1:02:44 Realizing what is Perception - Infinite resolution 1:03:18 Realizing what is Life - Universe is Alive - Any form is alive 1:04:32 Realizing the point of Existence. - Love Bonus: 1:05:30 Communicating with God 1:06:07 Healing 1:06:46 Collective Consciousness 1:07:15 Universe Collapse 1:07:46 Paranormal 1:08:22 Alien Entities
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Two weeks back i had one of the most profund mushroom trip. (I am having a mush trip every month and this was my 5th). It was fresh mush and method was limetek. It took close to 20 min to come up body load was high i stood near the window and was looking outside and trees pattern started to change so i went and sat in bed in meditation position. first thing that came to my mind was everything i am doing was for getting more care. I started to vomit(not literarily, body movements was like that).I couldnt sit straight and fell down on bed and a alien like thing came inserted somekind of tube on head, it said like it is taking away toxins from my body. Visuals changed suddenly there was nothing and then i was falling into some deep hole visuals was like i being a paper falling down for infinity. My legs where moving uncontrollably, it was flapping. I dont know whether or not leo's video on reality impacted me someway coz everything he said in it i got a glimpse of like Everything is a story of mind, parents and all are imagined by me. And in between i had a fear what if i die now? I soon realized my ego is holding me down so i let go of fear and was open to die. When i let go of fear it took me to insight like you are always alive, there is no one outside of you, oness with everything and leo, sadguru and everyone is my own creation. Slowly trip was coming down it took 4hrs and i slowly moved from bed and stood straight and walked near to window and looked outside at trees. At that moment the real mindfuck happened, i couldn't tell the whole thing that happened on bed was real or not. Was all the things that i saw and felt, imagined as i was standing near the window at beginning of trip. It was a profound trip. But there are some question that came to my mind after watching dangers of spiritual work I am sure ego death happend, but why isnt my ego acting neagtively after the trip? Its cool, and thinks things i experienced will make me grow in other areas of life (money, relationship etc) it is thinking like so there is no one expect you so you could do and be whatever the fuck you like. (I was nihilistic throughout my teenage, finding no meaning in anything, now its different) While my legs where moving uncontrollably and was flapping an insight came like how much pain you are putting on yourself by desperately seeking sex. I think my energies are trapped in lower 3 chakras and i need to set my priorities straight and enjoy lower needs and slowly move forward, instead of rushing the process. If it so should i stop my psychedelic once every month plan?
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Breaking the Karmic Cycle Sadhguru looks at the repetitive nature of the karmic cycle, and the three ways to approach the spiritual process. Sadhguru looks at the repetitive nature of the karmic cycle, and the three ways to approach the spiritual process. Sadhguru: The karmic structure in every human being is essentially cyclical. This cycle is not from lifetime to lifetime alone. If you are observant enough, you will see that events generally repeat themselves in cycles of twelve-and-a-quarter to twelve-and-a-half years. If you observe much more closely, you will see that even within a year’s time, these same patterns are happening many times over. If you observe very, very closely, the same cycles are happening many times over even within a day. The karmic cycle actually takes force every 40 minutes. These 40-minute cycles are called galige in Kannada. So every 40 minutes, you have an opportunity to break it. It is very important to see this. If you see that your life is just a repetitive foolish cycle, that you are doing the same cycle over and over again every 40 minutes, you would realize in two days that the way it is going is no good. If you only see the cycles once in 12 years, it will take 24 to 48 years for you to realize this is no good. And if you see the cycles once in a lifetime, it will take a few lifetimes to see this is no good. It depends on how conscious you are. The more conscious you become, the more you see living in an unconscious cycle is no good. So, every 40 minutes, you have an opportunity to become conscious of it and to break the cycle. You want to break your present walls and go away. 3 Ways to Approach The Spiritual Process There are three ways to approach the spiritual process. One way is, slowly, by doing the right things through a few lifetimes, you will get there. Another way is, you remain in your present circumstances, do the best you can do, keep yourself open and focused and make yourself available to the process. In the last moment of your life, we will see that it happens. Another way is, you want to know something now. You want to break your limitations now and go beyond its limitations. Then you should not be concerned about what is happening around you because many things will happen that no one will approve of. Society will not approve, people will not approve, your family will not approve since they related to you because you were one kind of person. If you become another kind, they will not be able to relate to you anymore. This is a simple thing you can do: team up with someone that you don’t like. Spend time with that person, very lovingly, joyfully. A lot of things will break. Let us say you got married to someone. They married you because you were a certain kind of person. If you become another kind, maybe it is a beautiful kind but still a different kind, you are suddenly an alien to them. They cannot live with you unless they have the wisdom and sense to see you as a great possibility, that “My partner has gone ahead. It is wonderful to have somebody who is ahead of me.” If that much sense is there, fine, but if that much sense comes, then the relationship has to transform itself. It can no longer be what it was. It has to become something else. Once you recognize that someone is way ahead of you, that relationship cannot be husband and wife, mother and son, this and that. It will become something else. So, in some way, whatever you used to value will be broken – either physically broken, or you will live in the same space but still it will change. How many people in the world are ready for that? So, the other two options are better for a lot of people: you do the right things, be available to your Guru, and when the last moment comes, he will take care of it. Or, you are not even willing to be available but you are willing to do a few little things. Practice some kind of nourishment for yourself so that somewhere in the future, something will happen. I do not wish that for you. Either you must break your limitations now or it must happen at least at the moment of death. I am not a patient person. I practiced impatience for lifetimes. People generally see me as an extremely patient person because my acceptance is seen as patience, but I am not. I want everything on fast-forward. I don’t like anything moving slowly. There is no mountain standing between you and the ultimate. There is nothing else but yourself – just your own mental structure. If you have to break that, we have to do something in reverse. This is a simple thing you can do: team up with someone that you don’t like. Spend time with that person, very lovingly, joyfully. A lot of things will break. But you always team up with someone that you like – that is not good for you. If you choose something that you like, it strengthens your personality. Learn to do things that you don’t like, be with people that you don’t like, and still live your life sensibly, lovingly, joyfully. Everything will break. Editor’s Note: Sadhguru delves deeper into the spiritual process and the role of