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Why not live in comfort? The whole idea of comfort is foreign to me. This is because of my PTSD I have never felt a deep sense of comfort. I have always been thrown to the limits of despair. This has made the notion of comfort an alien to me. It's like I have to force myself to get some rest. Or else I will be working 24/7 like a maniac This obsession in me to work till my death on the desk is also a form of PTSD. I have been ingrained since childhood by my mother with the thought that I am Incapable, worthless and will never amount to anything in life. This sort of maternal abuse at an early age in my life, ages of 6 to 18, the most intense years of my maternal abuse have given me a permanent state of PTSD. Often times I don't sleep at all. I feel the need to keep working to prove to myself that I'm not as bad as my mother thought I was. This eternal need in me to seek the validation of a woman, a mother who never gave me a sense of closure, it drives me insane. The past few days I have been confronting this feeling. I never saw my mother resting. She would be working non stop. And in return I never learned how to rest myself. I was always made to think that comfort is a bad idea. These days I'm challenging that idea. Why not take comfort? Why not rest? A lot of this has to do with Self Destruction. The only way to deal with my childhood abuse was self destruction. I was a self destructing teen Cutting myself to release blood was a normal thing. Locking myself in a bathroom when I was 17 to get away from my mother's abuse was a daily thing. I used to play sad music, trying to vent my frustration and despair in an abusive environment Multiple suicide attempts. But all of it is just an endless cycle of self destruction. And I must say that I have come a long way from all of that. There has been tremendous progress in the past few years. A lot of it is psychological.

I wouldn't even consider this alien. The Zero Point Energy Field has been studied and used since the 1920s by folks like Tesla and Casimir. And though I can provide pics and videos of small scale free energy experiments, such as Rodin's VBM coil that causes a metal ball to spin forever, I can't find much else other than documentation proving the study and application of such systems. Firstly, this is because you need an abundance of support and resources for such research. Secondly, if its suppressed it'll be bought out, erased, or confiscated before it can be released to the public unless it's put out very quickly and openly on all platforms. It's like looking for a needle in a corrupt haystack.

@Lucas Kehr sure man. Just don’t let it be too big of a part of your life and part of being passionate about the scientific is always accounting for your own folly or your sources or the technology itself. Alien technology could exist on earth in secret but there no use convincing people on an Internet forum haha. I think that could be a healthy life purpose if you were more into discovery and innovation of new technology and not trying to prove a point. Just trying to help humanity like wilhelm reich. I think wilhelm reich and Tesla were smeared in bad faith because the government didn’t like what they were uncovering, but I have no evidence of shady dealing just seems pretty plausible based on the information. also the thing about Tesla and wilhelm reich is that they did the work and then let it speak for them, where as the reason why Greer isn’t more popular is because people want results and all most of them have is a narrative same crap happened with Russia collusion sometimes people don’t care about what actually exists if you can’t show them in plain writing. Is this unfair? Yea maybe but can you blame them, not really. conscious people will always have to deal with being discredited and called crazy it’s par from the course and I’m starting to realize that. just keep pursuing advancement and you’ll be great no need to worry about who believes you or not or trying to prove a point. and you’re welcome

I have seen no credible evidence that alien technology exits. Perhaps it does, but we are not going to go on a wild goose chase here based on some fringe possibility. If you have pics of alien technology, post 'em. Otherwise this is a waste of time.

You're basing your reality on a sample of primate sensory apparatuses that were limited by evolution to perceive fitness payoffs. Your whole experience of the world is shaped by the game of survival and reproduction. You didn't evolve to see the world "just as it is", but you evolved to see the world in a way that is beneficial for your survival. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_D._Hoffman You're actually not able to perceive things that are not either beneficial or relevant for your survival. You're not perceiving a world; you're perceiving an user interface. If an alien came to earth, it's not a given that he would even be able to see the Eifel Tower. Even so, distinctions made within that user interface are still relative and fictional. "Eifel Tower" is a culturally constructed concept. "You" and "me" is a concept. You need to be able to differentiate between conceptual constructs and raw experience. The moment you start making distinctions, you're now constructing concepts that only put labels on your experience. Raw experience is raw experience.

I think the being on the autistic on spectrum is a tough thing to deal with for men, including myself. Simple things like making eye contact even with your own family members in conversation can feel uncomfortable and difficult at times. It's not hopeless. Just sucks to have "high functioning autism" since childhood which impairs your ability to socialise well, leading to social anxiety, leading to more and more avoidance and making the problem worse. The only way out is to take action I suppose. I can't tell the difference between what's in my control or beyond my control with finding eye contact uncomfortable. And so that internal conflict of constantly beating yourself up with not living up to ideals takes a toll and wastes energy. I'm never fallen down an incel rabbit hole, and I don't plan to. I have the precipitating factors untill I learn social skills and building connection/joy from strangers. Problem is that I feel like an alien wearing a human costume, so low self esteem from that, so I avoid. Avoidance is the main theme Imposter syndrome. Dodging any and all responsibilities like the plague. Probably "avoidant personality disorder"

So THIIIIISSSSS is why you want to ruthlessly murder innocent aliens!!!!! Wow, I'm so glad I saw this. I'm sorry for calling you a chimp yesterday, I was thinking about what I said later on after I posted it and while I haven't changed my opinion on the whole alien thing, the other stuff was unneeded and made you even more defensive. We were both being shitty in some ways to relative degrees. God DAMN do you need to do some shamanic breathing to release that trauma and start melting away your materialist and rationalist ideologies! You do you and you do it when and if you're ready because it's sum RADICAL shit, my broah. Baby step it. I struggle greatly with socializing too because I have asperger's syndrome but doing yoga, shamanic breathing, hypnosis e.t.c. has and is continuing to make a difference. Sorry again for calling you a chimp.

Another thing to consider is how it could be that our perceived duality between life vs technology ceases to apply to the beings at question. It could be that their vehicles aren't actually vehicles, but rather extended parts of their bodies and minds, and ultimately consciousness. The UFO could be part of the body of whatever is controlling the UFO. It could be that the surface of the UFO has receptors for all wavelengths of light, so it could be like a spherical eye that communicates information directly to the mind of the alien. Maybe the UFO itself is sensitive to hundreds and hundreds of different aspects of reality, expressed within the alien mind as hundreds of different perceptions. If we were to say that we have a 100 sense perceptions, the UFO could have millions. Even stranger is that the mind of the alien might be so organic and adaptive that it could experience different kinds of information expressed within different dimensions of perception. You know how some people can "see" music? It could be that a single kind of information, like for example different wave-lengths of light, could be expressed within the alien mind as thousands of different perceptions at once, all giving it different kinds of insights into the nature of what it is experiencing. I just want to hammer down the idea that the kind of mind we are talking about here could not even be remotely comparable to what a human mind is. It wouldn't be a brain, determined in it's structure and function. What you perceive to be an ultimate reality, is not an utlimate reality. Everything about you as a human being, about what you deem to be logical, possible, coherent, all of these things are biological limitations. Your perception of Self, your sense that there is a world, a universe, other entities, time and space, all of these might be confines which the mind of the alien is not subjugated by. What you think is self-evident and what is so mundane that you do not even notice it, that might be nothing but a limitation which an advanced organism might have long abandoned. By long I mean that they might have abandoned it millions and millions of years ago. So from a point which is already so foreign to us that we could not even imagine what it would be like, it could be that they have spend millions of years advancing and becoming more and more foreign.

Are you sure that you were abducted by gray aliens and it wasn't just a dream? I've had lots of weird experiences and still can't be 100% that it wasn't just my imagination. And you said that your brother scared you with alien stories prior to this experience, so maybe that's the reason you had that dream.

I think its more useful to ask why hadn't any alien spaceships been shot down yet? With all the crazy impulsive people that ruled throughout the past century like Hitler and Stalin and Kim Jong . Its weird that their not interested in aliens or at least thats what it seems . Something fishy about it I think

Dude, we are simply not shooting down aliens. Period. Let it flow. The issue is that your whole paradigm is centered around the concept of 'humanity', and the more others try to approach you from outside of this view, the more same-level arguments you throw at them, such as it grants us survival, it's better for the future, it saves us from an indomitable doom. Those are all just parts of a single limited thought framework. Definitely work on trauma release if you intuitively notice this hard-thinking approach is rooted in the past. Use it for something good today. Not to form an alien-shooter masterplan. Much love.

This is a painful false equivalence. There are no lives at stake in the alien scenario, at least not immediately and probably not even into the near future. NUking Japan was a best case scenario in response to a chain of violence going back decades(started by a group of people who began attacking others unprovoked because they thought they knew what was quote unquote best for them!). This is it for me on this thread. You're too pig-headed. The last thing I'll say is that I hope you cultivate some more receptivity and then combine that with all the projecting you're doing. You'll project higher quality projections!

Dude......EVERYTHING I said went completely over your head. Your notion of intelligence is painfully limited. You seem to think that rational/computational/analytical intelligence is quote unquote intelligence period. I'm not sure how you would best transcend that huge limitation but transcend it for the sake of your own enjoyment and fulfillment in life if nothing else. You may have very high IQ but very low EQ/Wisdom, which generally leads people to think INCREDIBLY self biased and arrogant things like "Let's just blow this creature away and dissect it and pick things off it's carcass. You know.....FOR SCIENCE. You're acting emotionally here more than logically and are also probably very emotionally repressed which is actually IMPAIRING, skewing and corrupting your logic. One of the biggest traps rationalist zealots fall into is that they trick themselves into believing they are impartial. I'm still working on transcending that stuff too. I thought that emotions were quote unquote irrational and primitive but they're a necessary aspect of your being. One should not be weaponized against the other. But I'm getting too speculative at this point. An alien race may have a vast army with highly sophisticated tech and no mercy. They may take offense to an unprovoked assault same as a human would and may seek vengeance as many humans do. Your counter argument with the ants is overly theoretical, in practice you would get fearful and angry and automatically defend yourself if you believed that was your best option. Just like if another human put a gun to your head. There would be SOME form of a major response if they found out that a group of their own was killed like that and given where humanity is right now overall, i would submit to you that we would be totally unprepared. And the level of preparedness is relative to the nature of the species we would have pissed off in your hypothetical scenario. There are SO many angles you're blind to here. You're a desperate and greedy chimp who just wants to get his hands on some new shiny things. There's NO actual logic and sophistication in what you're proposing. He is definitely morally underdeveloped but the biggest underdevelopment for this guy is Emotional intelligence. If he did trauma release and other practices that develop you along that line like body scan meditation or practicing self expression, I think the lack of morality wouldn't be at least as much of an issue because he would be more empathetic and able to imagine what it would be like to be an alien just cruising through the galaxy....chillin.........and all of the sudden dying in a flaming wreck.

Oh I liked it, gave him a big alien - machine elf vibe

@Mikael89 People who are alien-like are usually not treated very well (unless they use their 'paranormal abilities'). They don't meet other people's Maslow needs, especially love and belongingness. They are 'low value' in the eyes of others. So there is no reason to stop projecting and to stop abusing them for the average person. Mostly they just want to be left alone.

I’ve met several people with paranormal abilities that self identify as being alien-like. One of the reasons they keep their abilities secret is to avoid getting abused by others.

@Mikael89 I think because aliens are so alien that we might not be able to anticipate their reactions. Like I just said, it depends on the relationship between that shot down alien spacecraft and the alien race @Leo Gura

As soon as we meet an alien we should hog tie him and beat out of him all his secrets. Then we mount his head as a trophy in the Oval Office.

@Mikael89 Okay, if it absolutely has to come down to shooting an alien spacecraft, which country would you peg likely to shoot it down? And who get's the first dib on the wreckage? I also would not be surprised if we can't reverse engineer such technology, because we had a real world occurrence of a USA drone crash landing in a middle eastern region and they picked it up, filmed themselves attempting to learn and reverse engineer the drone parts, but it failed.

@Mikael89 LOL! It's problematic depending on which side or position you see an alien spacecraft getting shot down, but ultimately Truth is impartial to whatever happens, even if we end up shooting an alien spacecraft, because in most cases keep in mind that misunderstandings can mostly occur especially the greater the differences. Depends on how they interpret our action against the spacecraft. Who knows, they might interpret it as an act of war, but also they might be neutral and patient, understanding that we seem primitive to them, or they might congratulate us because we happened to wipe out a group of alien terrorists for them, and from this violent act, we inadvertently get on their good planets to peace treaty a trade with!

@Leo Gura That just makes the aliens look weak, like they need to kidnap and mind rape a person for research and intel. What insecurities do such things have to stoop down to that level. A highly conscious and advanced alien species and technology might even be non-physical and manipulate energy and matter that's very hard for human minds to grasp. If they're so selfless, why so crude in intel gathering?

You are wrong. There are not some idiots, this is the very foundation of what it means to be a human. As a species, our desire to be with God, our desire for Love, is the best indicator of how primitive, undeveloped and childlike we are. To expect such a species to be given the ability to become gods among mortals is utterly absurd. The prerequisite for that kind of technology might be a mind that is conscious of the Love of God in every second of it's being, from it's creation to it's dissolution. A being that is in a 5-MeO-DMT state from the very conception of it's mind, a being that could operate from such a place with ease, not one that would completely break down crying in utter terror and joy. Any such species would look at us and see microorganism fighting desperately for survival, utterly ignorant of their place in this reality and where they are moving towards. I mean we are so primitive that we physically can barely take the Love of God. Our biology is so badly designed to embrace Love that we literally cannot operate if it gets dialed up enough. A species that has a million year old ego embedded in it's mind. Such a species cannot be given the ability to become gods among mortals. You have to grasp this, the mind of an ant might be closer to the mind of a human than the human mind is to that of an advanced alien. We might be so far removed, we might be so primitive, that we cannot even conceive of the kind of selflessness these beings can embrace completely effortless, because they have been design and made to do so, outside of the constraints of survival. We are our limitations, that is what makes us humans. Our evolutionary legacy is what makes us what we are.

The technology described seems to be so advanced, to assume that we can shoot such a thing down is to me quite unrealistic. From the speculation we are hearing, this thing might not even be travelling at all, instead it is pushing through space itself, sucking itself through it so to speak. It's not actually moving, in other words if you were to be inside that thing and it was moving with 10x speed of light, you wouldn't feel a thing. It would be as if you'd stand on a non-moving object. When it is moving through the air, it is not actually interacting with the air, which is why it doesn't seem to cause a sonic boom. It doesn't actually push any molecules while it is travelling, because it is not actually travelling. I don't understand the hypothetical physics of this, but I am not sure if it couldn't just fly through a wall. That's how advanced that technology might be. Also to think that giving us this kind of technology would be in any shape or form a good idea is very naive aswell. It would be like giving a bazooka to a chimp. Humans can barely keep up with the technology they themselves are creating, just think about if nuclear weapons had been invented a decade earlier, in another part of the world, like for example Nazi Germany. You don't try to teach a 4 year old to drive a car, the mind of the 4 year old is not ready. The same is true for us as mankind. We might not even be biologically capable of responsibly using that kind of technology. It might be that we will first need to actually change the structure of our brains and minds for us to deal with it on a larger scale. Don't forget, at some point technology might become so advanced that a single dysfunctional mind could annihilate all life on a planet. A single "school shooter" type could destroy all life on earth, if technology was advanced enough. This kind of dysfunctionality cannot even be given a chance to exist before a certain technological point has been reached. It cannot even be 1 out of a trillion people. It has to be a mind completely alien to ours, a mind that has no capacity for primitive desires like jealousy, hatred, fear and so forth. The fact that there are people who would ever shoot down an alien aircraft to gain an imaginary benefit is all the reason why the aliens would deem us far too immature to do so. They might deem us so unadvanced that giving us any kind of advanced technology would be like giving ants nuclear weapons. And equally, any technology that we might be given could be equally incomprehensible as a nuclear reactor is to an ant. A human mind might not even be capable of comprehend any type of understanding of how and what that technology is, or how it has been created. That's how advanced they could be. Don't forget, if a species reaches a certain level of development it might be capable of intelligently "evolving" a structure that gives rise to a mind that would not be created in trillions and trillions of years of natural evolution. The wisdom of nature and all it's organism would seem like a child building something out of legos.

You fail to realize that shooting down a craft like that completely unprovoked is an act of war. If the military ever did that, they would likely be provoking a war that we are VERY much likely to lose.....HORRIBLY. I'm talking the most laughably pathetic and completely justified curbstomp ever. As in an entire armada of warships quantum leaping into earth's airspace so advanced that the average person would have a psychotic break simply from looking at it. It may even be an alliance of multiple different alien species. Careful with this word alien because to ANY other species WE are the aliens. If you really care about the possibility of interacting with other other intelligent and/or sentient life, I would suggest cultivating WAY more humility than you currently embody.

I get it. You are the big daddy who advances society. 'Just how it's gotta be, man. For our sake. For the greater good.' Just allow me to overwhelm you with a flair of feminine love to balance it out. The moment our lens becomes centered around humanity and our thinking revolves and gets stuck on our side versus their side, we have fallen into a gaping hole. WE are aliens! If they are as intelligent as an advanced intergalactic civilization ought to be, I find it hard to believe they would retaliate, though. Retaliation is such an ape level. A conscious being does not stomp an ant when it bites them because they have placed a hand inside a nest. You perfectly understand it, there is not an impulse to retaliate, you love the ant for what it is. Having said that, this sort of gives an ant the 'privilege' to bite a conscious being and still be loved. The question I ask, what would be our cause to shoot down a flying saucer and acquire alien technology? To cruise the stars? To win a war? To end poverty, world hunger, would it be a noble cause? - Because we do not require more technology for that, we do not lack the technical capacity; we lack empathy and consciousness for that.