Eph75

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  1. @Preety_India Reality is hard and nuanced, and most of all complex. You're lacking respect for the complexity of what is. It is in the face of volatility, uncertainty, complexity and ambiguity (VUCA) that we, need to come together into collaboration around that complexity, so that we increase our combined ability to face and handle these new circumstances and these new problems that they bring. Again, racism can't be generalized, when talking about different countries that are vastly different in nature. In Sweden, racism is most expressen between different groups of immigrants and not Swedes against immigrants. I understand that you are talking from a different point of view, which is valid, but such generalization isn't valid for all nations. I am focusing on the situation in Sweden. I wish you could visit Sweden and look for this western racism, and you will find something different, something far more complex in terms of something that few are willing to talk about, that goes way beyond the black-and-whiteness (absolutely no oun intended) of most peoples logics and assumptions. It is the contradictions held within the post-modern, ethnocentric, Green vMeme values when stuck in itself, unhealthy, that is currently preventing the overcoming of itself. In a sense it is the symbolism held within thoughts that produces such symbolic [non] actions that we are experiencing in Sweden, instead of producing actions that address the actual problems that have arisen. Seemingly out of fear of having that being confused and deemed as being racist which it of course is not. Paradoxically, more so, avoiding the problems becomes polarizing, segregation and racist in itself, if one were to compare the two side-by-side, and the outcomes they produce. So please, don't jnderestimate the complexity, and face that complexity rather than condensing the problems percieved down to good and bad, as that position does not hold the power of change. I wouldn't go so far as to say that this will be detrimental for the long term stage of development (COG) but rather presents such challenges that will force us to come together to face our lack of ability to handle the situation and grow from there. There will be a wider spread over different stages of development in the societies but handle well, it will accelerate the development of the immigration people and not noticably regress that of then general population. This too shall pass, we shall overcome these challenges. And we shall, face new, greater challenges ahead. That is the only certainty there is. The main problem right now is to limit the collateral damage until such a point that we are able to come together in a more collaberative and constructive way. To do so we need to give ourselves breathing-room and time to deal with what is rather than continue adding to the problems, so that we can become who we need to be to help those in need. But enough said about Sweden, we're an insignificant drop of 10 million people in the whole.
  2. @Preety_India That is a myopic view of a complex problem. The problems that arise from large immigration can't be dismissed that easily and the problems seen are systemic and will need to be addressed in near-time. The problems are vastly different in different countries and it's not helpful to lump "West" into the one and same category. Unfortunatly, in Sweden, the inability to have constructive conversations about such hot topics, on a political level, has resulted in polarization and more-or-less the ignoring of an array of negative side-effects and thus postponing actions. This lack of actionability in Swedish politics isn't exclusive to immigration, nor is it a new phenomenon, but is deeply widely systemic. The mistakes made so far will have long term consequences, and those mistakes don't have to do with immigrants or racism per se but rather naivite about the need for a sustainsble short and long-term plan in terms of impact on the Swedish systems e.g. wellfare, but most prominently the absolute lack of plans in terms of what successful integration looks like. A lot of these problems seen arise from a Swedish post-modern approach towards and inability to handle Blue value system problematics that result from a fast and large change in population dynamics. Approximately 20% of the Swedish population are immegrants and over the past years Sweden have kept one of the highest rates of immigration per million citizens out of the Europe an countries and the consequences of this is easy to see, not the least in terms of violent crime. These kind of things are reactions towards types of dysfunction perceived and such expressions and the underlying needs need to be acknowledge and understood for what they are, rather than seen as racism and "up coming peaks of nazism". Only then can they be addressed in ahealty and progressive way. Ignoring or dismissing these expressions just increases the pressure in the system until such a point that it depressurizes into unheatly expressions. We need to stop viewing happenings as black-and-white and good-and-bad which further polarizes, and instead acknowledge that everything is shades of gray and welcome the exploration of each others perspectives to gain understanding of the percieved problems and underlying needs so that we can reach actionability and actual results rather than maintaining fixed positions and endless hateful discussions. We all can start with noticing any emotional attachment to this subject, it is rather evident, and work towards detachment from it to further improve our own abilities to create positive change.
  3. Duly noted. I'm assuming that you are from Sweden. Feel free to add nuance, always curious on adding perspectives.
  4. There were several parts in that paragraph that could be looked at individually, but ultimately the hypothesis is mine based my own sense-making in turn based on a multitude of information, interviews with police officers (among others, this is not limited to law enforcement) and the progression of the discussion climate throughout the years here in Sweden, and it seemingly getting closer to reaching a pinacle.
  5. A toxic reactions to a toxic phenomenon. In Sweden e.g. police officer do not dare do their job properly due to the risk of consequences, which has produced a blunt police force that is unable to address increasing problems with brutal crime. The reasons for this are complicated and highly political. One can see that such laws would make it harder or impossible to create media hunts against police officers that actually enforces the law, making this out to be more about race than the actual crimes committet, a side-effect of the paradoxal contradiction of post-modernism views, something that Sweden is struggling with. France is of course not like Sweden, in many ways, so I can't relate Sweden's going-on with those in France. Above is under the assumption that the actions of the police are supported by the generally accepted views on morale and laws. So from this perspective, they could "help" with specific percieved problems. From the freedom of speech perspective and the right to critically review the actions of the people of and function of the state, it is highy problematic. Even if the above morale and law perspectives are fulfilled within the actions themselves, it is highly problematic. Of course, if there is police brutality or racial biases and so on thrown in the mix, it will act as a veil to allow covering up or diffusing the immoral going-ons within state interference with expected freedom(s) and rights. A phrase like “physical or psychological integrity” becomes much too vague to ensure high morality behind the judgement of the individual cases. There's much room for interpretation of the underlying intensions, room for interpret action that would be nice to get cleared away, to better understand what the problem they are trying to address with this law really is.
  6. Depends on what your idea of values and purpose are. Getting people to like you for the sake of "having" people that like you isn't useful except from an egocentric world view. On the other hand, slapping difficult truths in the face of someone that is incapable of using that information is not helpful at all. It is more likely to raise defenses and grow resentment. There's a middle road, a deliberately supporting route; not telling them what they want to hear to get them to like you, and instead helping them navigate their selves/own reality in better ways, so that they can grow over time and become better at noticing their own limitations or even work on their issues, even if this is without being directly aware of it. Deliberately designed sense-making conversation have that effect, helps the ones you talk to structure their thoughts in such a way that they allow themselves to stretch their reasoning by provinging beneficial circumstances and settings in which growth is most likely to be possible to happen. They themselves arrive at new, usually smaller iterative, yet sometimes great, insights that are transformational, that changes the how in the way we think. Again, doing this takes time, effort and patience. The outcome is unknown so it has nothing/less to do with what your own wants and needs are and is centered on the other person's need to grow and what kind of sense and meaning they will make up for themselves is up to them. Desire to change people in some particular way is telling you that you are in it for change that is of personal gain, that of your ego. "Pure" desire of helping people help themselves can still come from an egocentric world view, such as the need of achivement, social status, acceptance and acknowledgement of others, but is more "flavor-less" and less biased. The desire to help others can, and will, grow into something ever increasingly selfless. Finding balance is through the detachment of the desire to create change in others, so that the absolute freedom to help people can emerge, such change that is at the pace and susceptibility based only on support without any expectations. Working from such a position makes it all about that change work and not about expectations of change. Having desires and expectations coming from emotional attachment to reaching particual results are met by opposites in form of disappointment in self and resentment agains other. That's why it's important to grow ourselves in order to be able to help others grow themselves; helping ourselves to become increasingly better at helping others to better help themselves.
  7. Seeking starts as escaping suffering out of the desire for happiness. Finding is the removal of, or rather disidentification with, the suffering that is, and the desire of escaping that which is. A lack of expectations on and desires of removes the flavor of the question. If happiness is the removal of such impact, of what is, there is no happiness to find and only something to loose. Addition by reduction. There needs to be a desire to start looking for something other, that's perfectly alright. And there needs to be the invalidation of that need for seeking, to find that there was nothing needed to find, rather to gain the ability to wakingly see that which is and the purity of that experience. Happiness becomes just a word.
  8. It's easy to get fixated on the products or services such a business would offer/sell, but it is equally so, I'd say more so, about values and people inside of such organizations and how they organize and interact, and how management of such an organization appears, or appears "less managerial", or as not being managed, while still apparently ordered by management, around a system that is flat/flatter with higher levels of sense of personal/intrinsic responsibility among everyone "participating" in such an organization. A true sense of self-organization around higher purpose and higher values than "making money" or finite targets within imaginary time frames such as yearly budgets. Sustainability of course becomes key and unity goes beyond a sense of "community" or "family" - resources, worldly, material, psychological and so on, holistic approach. Values include impact on lives, inside and outside of the organizations and not necessarily targets work that is per definition about humanity, meta-perspectives go way beyond the purpose on the market alone. Business becomes a game/play rather than a need to make money, fame, traditional success, approval, hierarcial social ladder needs that are filling deficiency needs. Focus, is towards fulfilling being needs of self, entity and world. Lines becoming increasingly blurred out between work and non-work. People no longer think of businesses as work but a calling to becoming what they need to be, resistences fall. Going to work is self-expression. A note here is also that, the people in such organizations themselves don't need to be at the same level of development, or having the awareness of such development, but instead is allowed to express and exercise themselves at their best brought out by the structure and systems arranged by the deliberate design of the business itself. In that sense such organizations themselves become a growing-ground for further, and accelerated societal developmental growth, for the sake of such being-cognition values on its own. A kind of kindergarten that just like childrens kindergarten offer a growing ground for developmental growth and preparation for the adult life, this becomes a kindergarten for adults to continue to mature past adolescens spiritually speaking and becoming true adult in an integrated, more holistic sense of the word. Not obsessively focused on what we do, and instead [non-obsessively] on how we do and the impact of that doing, in the now, short term and long term. Without any ideological stance. *Being* Similar businesses start formning a sort of informal support system for mantained sustainability of mankind itself, that ensures perpetual coexistence with ever increasing automation, robotics, AI and so forth, where the labour of man becomes an ever decreasing need.
  9. @Gesundheit the countries that are biased towards greater acceptance of self-expression is typically countries that are more/better functioning from the larger perspective. That doesn't mean that some toxicity can't form around whatever self-expression that appears, but in long term I believe that it has always shown to be contributing towards progression of increasingly healthy societies.
  10. @Someone here That has more to do with suppression of sexuality than it has to do with inherent sexuality. It being forbidden doesn't mean that such women are not curious about and attracted to that which is "absolutely forbidden". It's much like saying that people in places where homosexuality are strictly forbidden do not have inherent homosexual tendencies. This is pretty interesting, what is and what is not natural. If nature allows it to be possible, practically speaking, then it is natural. What is impossible in nature is unnatural, e.g. birds can fly & people can't [without machines]. Everything is just bias towards different perspectives, and such bias is subjective, such as this bias. If the goal is to reach orgasm, and anal sex makes you reach orgasm, possibly easier than traditional sex due to psychological factors, then it can be seen a tool to reach a goal. If you like it or not, if a society likes it or not, if it's repressed or denied or not, that's irrelevant from an individual perspective. We're touching another interesting topic, and that's the need and demand for self-expression, or the suppression of self-expression and how this is differently accepted in difference societies/countries.
  11. Absolutely not. Openness and vulnerability is key to growth. Still, also self-deception is something that needs to be explored in the self-actualizing journey. It's easy to build a narrow path of exploration and not taking on a more holistic perspective on being-ness and needing-ness. Looking at it [more] objectively, posting does produce attention, and affirmation will follow, especially in a loving and accepting community, and especially through such acknowledgement that rubs us right. These rubbings produces serotonin and a temporary high, it simply makes us feel good. Dopamin follows which encourages us come back for more, and posting of new things, the chase for more serotonin. If not careful, the journey can take a turn that becomes centered around such gratification rather than being self-change oriented. It's important to look for such patterns in our behavior and ask ourselves such tough questions as am I deceiving myself by doing this and is this the ego at play trying to fulfill its deficiency needs. Own self-deceptions are not easy to spot. And indications from others are easily shot down as being projections. Self-deception including but of course not limited to above. In that sense, we can learn to better accept feedback and criticism and allow them to become indicators for self-inquiry.
  12. @Preety_India Also, as I mentioned earlier, where the guilt/shame comes from is worth exploring as well. As you probably already know, what is taboo or that which we deem is wrong or strange often carry an attraction with it. Things like this can carry an excitement with it that is coming from it in that sense being forbidden. And it can become something of an obsession/compulsion. Making it accepted, through self-acceptance, can very well reduce, remove or change that attraction. In any case, getting rid of the guilt is a win-win, and would be a perspective changer, regardless what the next step would turn out being.
  13. @Preety_India Being authentic is important as it dictating our self-esteem and self-worth; to be able to be and express who we really are, and align with our morality. Not having that alignment reduces our self-worth and guilt and shame arises. Feelings of irrational guilt is very destructive, and we should eliminate all aspects of irrational shame and guilt. If you really want to enact these ideas, but you restrict yourself from doing so, out of shame or guilt, that's keeping you from being authentic. Sometimes fantasies are only that, fantasies, and not much more, without any desire to enact them. Here the important thing here is to not let such thoughts create irrational guilt and shame. No one can give you the answers you seek, you need to come up with the answer yourself. My advice is develop your assertiveness, by not asking others what to do, instead use others for extended reasoning and to shine light on that which is hard for yourself to see, so that it can bring clarity, so that you find your answer. Perhaps another advice as well; Don't take yourself nor life too seriously. Life is a mere game, it's a playground, play it well, for your enjoyment. Experiment and have fun. There's much less at stake than we make up there to be.
  14. @Lindsay The numbers that are frequently used are the numbers that appear in the research and as with all numbers they are always inaccurate, both in the sense of them being "old" even though these things don't change very quickly, but also in the sense that they only describe a picture drawn by the selection of people that have been tested, and that become the representation of the whole. In terms of feeling in the society by one self, it can also be hard to distinct e.g. Green or Yellow cognitive abilities and the adoption of Green or Yellow ideology and value system. A lot of people may appear Green or Yellow due to conceptual understanding of values commonly communicated. So, in these cases, it's hard to see what you are seeing, unless digging past the surface and examining how their meaning-/sense-making works, and also, trying to determine this from "below" is hard or impossible as there is nothing else than ones own conceptualization of what those stages represent.