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  1. I love this image. The integration of colors, nature, art, femininity, eye gaze. Beautiful.
  2. This is an example how a mind can have difficulty in seeing a particular dynamic, yet can realize it when pointed out. . . In the state of Florida, Costco has mandated that all employees and customers were masks. In the below video, a customer pointed out another customer was not wearing a mask. The mask-less man freaked out and became hyper-aggressive. Notice how he twice screams “I feel threatened!!!”. Obviously, there is no need to be threatened here. This is just some guy in Costco who pointed out the mask rule. And obviously the aggressive man is not feeling threatened here. I did not realize the underlying dynamic until someone pointed it out to me. Under the “Stand Your Ground” law in Florida, someone can use self-defense aggression to protect themself if they feel threatened from an aggressor. Ideally, this should empower those that are vulnerable to protect themself. For example, a woman in a park the pepper sprays and aggressive man coming after her. Obviously, it’s reasonable that she felt threatened and is justified in protecting herself. . . The part I couldn’t see is that the aggressive abusers are stealing this from vulnerable people and using it to further empower their aggressive behavior and protect themself form consequences. An aggressor can scream “I feel threatened”, use excessive force and protect themselves from accountability by saying afterwards “I felt threatened and was just defending myself”. My mind couldn’t even imagine doing this. My mind just doesn’t work this way. . . Yet now that I can see the dynamic, I can see it all over. There have been many cases of people using excessive force for a situation and aggressors defending them as “feeling threatened”. There was another case of a woman that was being verbally harassed by another woman. The woman being harassed got into her car and could have pulled away. Yet she jumped out of the car, pointed a gun at the woman’s head and threatened to kill her. In the YT video, I made a comment that the one woman was verbally harassing, yet pulling out a gun and threatening to shoot her in the head is an excessive response. She could have just driven away. And an hour later my box was filled with comments justifying the excessive aggression because the woman “felt threatened”. I was like: “Huh?”., This was mild verbal harassment and she could have just driven away. Yet I can now see what aggressors are doing. They are using the idea of “I feel threatened” to legally justify hyper-aggressive behavior.
  3. I agree. Introspective questions can have a lot of value.
  4. I find the path of self actualization for a professional actor to be intriguing. In spiritual circles, we often discuss how the person is a “character”. That it is merely a story construct that can be transcended. . . Well. . . an actor is literally playing a character. The better they play that character, the better actor they are. The more they believe they are that character, the more believable it is to oneself and observers. There are similarities to “real life”. We play a character and they more we believe the character, the believable it is to oneself and observers. I’m particularly interested in method acting. This is a deep form of acting in which the actor literally tries to become that person. For example, an method actor given the role of a homeless many may actually live homeless on the streets for six months. There have been method actors that have gone so deep, they were never able to fully comeback.
  5. I think the questions the mind asks is reflective of that mind space and orientation. The answers to the questions above is that it can be. I’ve been in those spaces.
  6. Is the paper itself the color yellow or does the paper have a discolored yellowish look?
  7. You won’t be able to figure it out. I would suggest letting go of cognitive Yellow-level constructs and engaging within 5th dimensional realms that seem like magic, without trying to figure it out conceptually. Much of Turquoise is non-verbal and non-conceptual. Thought stories are not front and center on the Turquoise stage. One orientation is to try and figure out that which is cannot be figured out. This is the slow approach, like crawling up a mountain on one’s belly. Another orientation is that actuality of that which is not figured out and being like “Omg!! How do I even begin to explain this??!!”. For some minds, a psychedelic is like taking a helicopter up to the top of Mt. Turquoise.
  8. I’m observing some meta-intellectual mindsets contracted within intellect. . . We could spend many hours of creating intellectual models of intuition, yet that ain’t intuition. We can spend many hours creating intellectual models of empathy, yet that ain’t empathy. An intellectually-dominated mind will want narrative control within intellectual frameworks. It will not want to surrender space to emotional, intuitive and empathic modes of intelligence. Just as an intellectual mind will struggle to let go of the intellectual ideas it is attached to, it will also struggle to let go of intellect itself. In terms of SD, transitioning into Tier2 involves meta awareness. In terms of intellect, the mind may realize that it’s own intellectual constructs are relative. It may become aware of attachment to those constructs. This can allow the mind to let go and become more fluid with constructing and deconstructing within intellectual realms. Yet there are other modes of intelligence. Transitioning into Tier2 for an intellectual mind also means becoming aware of attachment to intellect itself. Surrendering attachment to intellect allows a different type of fluidity. A fluidity that integrates various modes of being, including intellect, emotions, energetics, empathy, intuition etc. Similarly, there is transitioning into Tier2 empathy that involves meta awareness. In terms of empathy, the mind may realize it’s own empathy is relative. It may become aware of attachment to specific forms of empathy. This can allow the being to let go and become more fluid within empathic realms. This involves surrendering attachment to certain forms of empathy. The being is no liberated to empathize beyond it’s previous contraction. For example, in Tier1 a person may only be able to empathize with people that have similar life experiences. This is an empathic contraction. In Tier2 attachment to self-related empathy is transcended and the being is now free to empathize and understand experiences outside of it’s own limited experiences. At higher levels, this can include empathic essence way beyond one’s own life experience. For example, at a high level of empathy, a being may empathically grok the essence of a person that lives in a small village in Peru that interacts with dark spirit entities. This could be well outside the empathic person’s life experience and belief system. They might not know anything about small Peruvian villages, they might not even believe in dark spirit entities. Yet there is an empathic essence that arises and the person is like “Whoooaaa, so that’s what it’s like to be a Peruvian villager who interacts with dark spirit entities”. The person actually interacts wIth dark spirit entities. Since this is not an intellectual realm, constructs like “is this real or imagined?” don’t even appear. It is beyond, or prior to, such intellectual constructs. . . This is a Tier2 level of empathy. There are likely many other forms of Tier2 empathic manifestations. I can only describe what has appeared for me. However, one being can have different levels of development for each area. Similar to how a person can have different levels of fluency in foreign language. A person can be fluent in English, partially fluent in Spanish and lack fluency in French. If someone is fully fluent in English and at an intermediate level of Spanish, what will there default language be? English of course. By default, they will naturally think in English and will have a habit of translating Spanish into English. It takes effort to break this habit and learn to understand and communicate directly in Spanish. Then the person can become an integrated bilingual. Similarly, a mind can be fluent in intellect and be at an intermediate level of empathic fluency. The default mode of being will be intellect. The mind will translate empathic essence into the intellect language. It takes effort to break this intellectual translation and learn to understand and communicate directly in empathy. Then the person can become an integrated bilingual. To me, the orientation of being intellect-dominant and expanding into being intellect plus empathic bilingual is most obvious. Probably because this is the orientation I have been evolving. As well, it seems this orientation is more common for males that females. There is also the orientation of being empathic-dominant and expanding into being empathic plus intellect bilingual. I imagine this would be a more common orientation in women.
  9. One thing I’m trying to point out is the dominance of intellectual modes over other modes of intelligence. Notice how the intellectual mind says “I respect social scientists that help people with their developmental empathy”. This is an abstract intellectual idea that has not embodied the actual developmental empathy. It only respects those that actually speak the empathic language when that language is aligned to the intellectual constructs it holds. Look at the mind’s response to the U.K. exercise. Does that look like a mind that respects and values people that speak empathy?. . A mind creating a frame of “I respect xyz and it is a key piece in the whole chain of creating systems” is still an intellectual-dominant frame. It is looking at developmental empathy from an outside intellectual perspective. It allows the communication of the empathic language as long as what is being communicated is subordinate and aligned within it’s own intellectual construct. Saying I respect and value empathic development is a contraction if restricts those fluent in empathy to only speak their empathic language within one particular intellectual frame. Consider this frame: This is a mindset that is not fluent in empathy. It does not even consider other intellectual frames. I’m not saying the view is wrong, no more than I would say a hammer is better than a screwdriver. However, this mindset is clearly not fluent in empathy. Notice how the mind frames this situation as training people for racial bias and how it is distasteful, arrogant and ungrateful. That is not a mind that understands or respects those that speak empathy. The mind is not willing to say, “I respect and value those that are fluent in empathic development. Since I am not fluent in speaking empathy I will allow those that are fluent in empathy space to speak here”. Rather, it is defining the efforts of those that speak the empathic language as “distasteful, arrogant and ungrateful” (which is true from one particular cognitive frame). Yet if both camps are truly going to work together, how can the intellectual camp tell the empathic camp that they can only speak their language in contexts that are aligned with a particular intellectual model? Allowing other modes of intelligence to merely exist within one particular intellectual model is a contracted mindset. Integrated yellow is not merely integrating intellectual constructs into a system, it also integrates other modes of intelligence. Integrating other modes of intelligence through an intellectual filter is distinct from integrating the actuality of that intelligence from that intelligence itself. Integrated yellow is fluent in several languages of intelligence. To a mind that is at a yellow+ level of empathic fluency, non-fluency is totally obvious. Just as non-fluency in intellectual modeling is totally obvious to a mind fluent in intellectual modeling. Acknowledgment and respect for the existence of the empathic language still has major gaps. You say that you would like to see ”both camps work together”, yet how can “both camps work together” when the actuality of the empathic language is labeled as “distasteful, arrogant and ungrateful.“ when it is not aligned with a particular intellectual frame? What does that communicate to people that speak the empathic language? Is it telling them “I respect and value your empathic understanding. Welcome. Let’s have the empathic and intellectual camps work together”. As someone who speaks the language of empathy, I can tell you it is not. It is excluding the empathic speakers .It is saying your camp can only work under my camp under my terms. And for those at intermediate levels of learning the empathic language, empathic understanding is not contracted to one’s experience, worldview and identity. That is green-level empathy. Tier2 meta-empathy transcends the self construct and there is expansion. Just as one transcends intellectual attachments and develops meta-intellect in Tier2, one can transcend empathic attachments and develop meta-empathy.
  10. This is immersed and limited to intellectual modeling. It excludes the value of direct experience and empathic understanding. An integrated stage yellow is not limited to intellectual modeling. Complexity is not limited to intellectual complexity. It also includes the complexity of integrating empathy, emotions, intuition. The integration of these components is not simply from the intellect. Some Yellows treat these as abstract ideas, because they are intellectual dominant. A direct experience of empathic understanding is as deep as any intellectual model you create. And in some contexts, much deeper and powerful. Yet a mind that likes to control through intellectual modeling will not want to venture into this zone. Such a mind will be repelled because it desires cognitive, intellectual control of creating narrative.
  11. Sounds to me like a night of love and romance. Back in the 80s, songs were more implicit than today.
  12. That would be interesting. I’ve read criticisms about various online tests. I’m curious about accurate one could be either in person or via forum posts.
  13. Back when I was in my early 20s, I applied for a position in a car repair auto body shop. It was just a job to sweep floors and clean the interior of cars. I went in for an “interview” with the boss. It was a rough and tumble place. His office was run down and there were lots of posters of women with huge breasts in bikinis and motorcycles. The room was stained with decades worth of cigarette smoke. The boss was a grizzled middle age man with a heavy beard. I sit down across from him. He looks up and then looks me over as if something is not quite right. . . He asks me “You got any drug or alcohol problems?”. . . I reply “No sir. No, drug or alcohol problems”. . . He says “You’d be the only one here”. . . Half reluctantly, he gives me the job. Within a few months, I was coming to work so hungover I could barely stand. Off to the side was a yard with junked cars for parts. Sometimes I’d crawl into the backseat of a junked car and pass out for a few hours.
  14. @ajasatya I’m at a beginner level of statistics. ANOVA is as high as I go. I’m interested how a statistical analysis can reveal an insight in one context, yet it may be limited to that context and biased in other contexts. I usually just do basic stats, yet if I enter more complexity I try to be careful in understanding what it’s revealing and it’s limits. Sometimes, I need assistance from a statistician about what I am allowed to conclude from a particular analysis and the caveats. And with the more complex stuff, I need to find someone I trust to translate it for me. It’s almost like a foreign language. I know enough basic phrases to get around, yet once it gets into complex grammar and different dialects I need someone I trust who is fluent in the language to help translate for me.
  15. @Marten These are really good. A few of them can induce a low grade trippy state in my mind, similar to CEVs on 4-HO-MET. I don’t get strong visuals on other psyches, yet these videos capture a form of psychedelic essence, even a non-visual psychedelic essence through visuals. I’ve never seen animations do that before. I’m curious what it would be like to watch them during tripping.