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Haha. That made me chuckle. When it happens, I'll be the first to register a trip back to earth. Right now I'm a legal alien.
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Leo Gura replied to freejoy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
They aren't the same, but share similarities. There are hundreds of different states of awakened consciousness. So you're rolling the dice as to which one you get. Not all enlightened people have the same state either. Some have radically alien and different states and levels of consciousness. There really is no such thing as "enlightenment" as a singular thing. There are thousands of different off-shoots of it which are very challenging to understand and map because you'd have to experience them all and you basically can't. -
Yep yep yep. I took a massive step in this whole direction of dating and intimacy. This was really important for me on an emotional level. It's a test that I passed. I was having headaches reading all this PUA stuff in the dating section for the longest time. It was like reading Greek to me. I just couldn't fit myself into this male world of hookup culture. Everything appeared alien to me. I felt alone, isolated and discarded and male agenda thrown at me with no care in the world for my feminine side. And now maybe I can move on from there. Finally free of this whole male parasitic agenda
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Yes, granny or alien action, its a state of mind. If there where more high intelligence species on this planet, we would be having sex/relationships with them. Some strongly disabled people want sex/relationships, if im the only opportunity they have for it, i cant allow them to go their entire life with out does experiences, so ill happily mold.
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hahaha i know, its dangerous, she might just nit me a sweater. Interesting interpretation, there is the aspect of wanting her to be happy, but to do this it involved molding myself into desiring her, takes a few seconds to do it. Now im permanently attracted to her and fantasizing about it. If i choose i could reverse this molding anytime. The only condition is that its morally correct with me or else i cant mold. Like consent. Well i dont desire relationships, they just happen automatically. Again it really could of been an alien creature, with alien cultural relationship rituals, i would just mold and be fully content with all of it. Sort of the lesson here is, we are a blank slate that got stuck on a specif way of doing attraction/relationships by culture. All emotions, desires,attachment,expectations are fully moldable to any configuration.
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Don't ask me, I didn't say it. Ask the person who said it. Probably they be just trolling our naivity or testing our receptiveness or whatever. Maybe that person is a different kind of alien.
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Ya know the other day, while repairing a computer for a 72 year old grandma, she started flirting with me (Im 32, young). My thought process was, well i dont want to deny her what she wants, seems unfair, everyone needs sex... She could of been a 11 foot, 6 testicals, slime dripping alien and it would of made no difference. Its going to get the job done. If she wanted a strange alien long term relationship of what ever sort, no problem, makes no difference, just go with the flow.
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I got a good one. I love this video. Alien message.
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I feel like I come from alien space. I can't believe I'm among these people. Unbelievable. People are so harsh and judgemental. It's such an effort to pull through.
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Some free time this week alowed me to experiment with nn-DMT. I use a Pulsar Volt Vape which allows me to take the 40 mg in one hit and is super safe, because you can't burn yourself. I've worked my way up to higher doses and I had only beautiful experiences that I felt so grateful for while working my way up to higher doses. So here is my trip report, 40 mg smoked with the Pulsar vape: I heat up the coil and start taking a long large hit and try to keep the smoke in as long as I can. I start feeling the DMT building up. I lay back and as soon as I touch the floor with closed eyes. I can see a whole new strange world that looks stranger than any anime I ever saw. I start to look around and see these insects that look like mantras . Those insects look at me and I feel their confusion about how I showed up infront of them. It's strange to say but that world seems a lot more vivid than this 3d world. The insects arent very gentle with me and they started gathering around me and feels like they started ripping me apart. Not sure how long I was in that situation but when I looked around ( with closed eyes ) I can see everything in extreme detail and I never saw anything in my life or can't even imagine a world that strange. Those wired alien insect creatures are still all over me with their wired arms/ tentacles and are playing with me or ripping me apart, hard to describe which one. But it doesn't feel good. I feel uncomfortable and just wanna get out of there back to being in a ''normal'' world. The experience starts to shift again and I start switching between different realities ( completely different world with unique entities that im somehow tuning in for a short moment ). I open my eyes and freak out, because every color and details in my room is different, the wall has a pink color, a plant pot that is normally just plain gray turned into a bright white pot with a blue strip around. My first faught is that i messed up and landed somehow in a parallel dimension where every detail is just a little different. I close my eyes again and just tell myself to breath and wait till the experience settles back to normal. Earlier that day i had beautiful experience with vaped DMT were I encounter these alive mechanical structures (maybe machine elves? ) that were welcoming me to another dimension. So all my previous experiences with DMT were "positive". So I didn't really expect to have such a bizarre somewhat frightening experience when i met the those interdimensional insects. But this wont keep me from doing further research with DMT and explore these realms more. For administration I highly recommend the Pulsar APX Volt Vape, instead of 3 puffs from a oil burner ( which also wastes more material and I hard to do alone ), take one long drawn hit and you will take off to hyperspace. Thanks for reading and I wish you all a safe interdimensional journey! Curious if anyone else has encountered those insect alien beings and interacted or talked ( telepathy ) with them? and, is there a way to control in which dimension you end up at, or is the experience all up to fate?
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The Lucid Dreamer replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Well apparently UFO’s have turned out to be real and are actually flying around in our airspace, so that kind of opens up some possibilities. What is meant by UFO is craft that astronomically outperforms anything in our inventory and move in ways that seem impossible to us based on what we know about physics. Now whether or not these UFO’s are occupied by “Aliens” is another question. But the debate as to whether or not these crafts are real and are flying in our skies is over. If I had to bet money this instant, I would actually bet that humans built them and that it’s some kind of secret technology, just because I’m a big proponent of Occam’s razor when forming hypotheses. But I don’t see the alien hypothesis as unreasonable by any means. -
Sat 27/02/2021 23:31 It is simply a fact that you can't experience another person's POV...That applies to humans as well as all animals, organisms and potential AI in the future. Does that make selfishness the default, by definition? Is selfishness relative? What is the meaning of helping or aiding another then? I find it baffling. What am I to make of relationship, "social", friends, loved ones, community, selflessness, sacrifice? ___ I look at my father for example. He sacrificed himself, and continually sacrifices himself, in a large sense. He landed in an unfamiliar new country with no money or assets of any kind, with an emotionally abusive and manipulative wife from an arranged marriage. Day in and day out he put up with a paranoid, jealous, money obsessed wife, whilst trying to juggle duties to work and family. Whilst looking after his kids, he also still supported his relatives living in his home country. He would visit Pakistan on occasion, and payed/organised the construction of a house so that his parents would be fine in the long term. And who knows how much money he's sent to help his siblings. But for 30 years he put up with a crazy, narrow minded woman. He probably should have divorced, he says it himself, but with his culture and having young kids he forced himself to stay in it. And he's a workaholic, and was basically doing the equivalent of 2 full-time jobs at once. He ended up getting into real estate and properties, buying and renovating multiple properties to rent and later sell. He is into properties for two reasons, 1) He finds it fun and noticed a way to earn money this way 2) He wants to leave something behind for his multiple kids, including me. He's a very selfless and caring person, even though he's very strongly traditional masculine, solid stage blue with islamic values, and I've felt myself trapped by those beliefs and culture he passes on. But, he is relatively flexible and a good listener who is empathic. He is a psychiatrist after all. We just come from two different worlds in culture and personality. He's 45 years older than me, raised in a different culture completely. And so it is I can forgive him for various things in the past, and communication barriers. --- Okay so why did I write this all out? Well, it's just that I find what he does and what motivates him so alien and strange to me. Whilst I am ofc grateful and love him, I can't help but be baffled, bewildered and nihilistic. What was he working hard for, and why? What is the human game everyone is playing? Why so much grinding, hard work, concern for money, unnecessarily large amount of sacrifice to support so many people? Where is in the individual in any of this? He has a strong faith in Allah and Islam (he is tolerant to other religions). He is concerned about the afterlife. In Islam there is the belief that the "Day of Judgement" will come. God will resurrect the dead, and everyone will talk to God, as God interrogates you or congratulates you for every bad or good deed you did. So my father says "I don't want God to ask me why I didn't do this" (on the day of judgement), and he's deadpan serious in believing this. And ofc I find it slightly concerning that someone literally believes this all. I could give throw away "explanations" which don't remove the source of my bewilderment ."Oh, his MBTI type is some sort of xSxJ type, they have a different motivation structure. He's just not an intuitive. He's an old man who was raised in Pakistan.". But these words don't do anything for me. _____ What was the meaning of anything he did? What's the meaning of anything I do? I just don't get it. I'm just also wondering what on earth it means to care about someone, what sacrifice and selflessness means. I feel too much pressure, too much irritation, too little space to be and to be myself. Fuck people, I live for myself and myself alone. I will brood on all this energy I feel, go meditate on it, focus on it, with every fibre of my being. "The humiliation of captivity is the beginning of the counterattack" Listening to this puts my mind at ease, just very relaxing and focusing. It's one of the songs/impressions I replay in my mind deliberately if I'm trying to hypnotise myself with a certain image
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Vibroverse replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I listen to a being called Bashar, he is being channeled by a guy, and he says he is an alien. And the things he says are pretty wise and high frequency. And once they put some devices on the channeler's brain and they saw that his brain was working very differently when he was in that channeling state. So I say why not? Bashar can be such a being who is aware of oneness of being and telepathically send information in that way. -
Remember me, remember me when you are down Float me on air and lift me up from off the ground Oh baby, I feel lazy So lie here in my arms tonight Would you deny a poor man's cry, a poor man's cry I wanted to wish for us a world where we could both be forever young, happy and healthy. I wanted us to have our own personal little island - our own spirit room - in an archipelago of rooms, where we could visit our neighbors. The beach would be lit in liquid blue at night, and we could control the weather if we wanted to. We would live in a tree house and could manifest any food we wanted. The tree house would look humble on the outside, but very posh inside. Dark, rich, warm colours. It would be small, a bedroom, a livingroom. We could manifest food and would not need a kitchen and due to being dead, bathrooms are not needed. It would be very comfortable, full of pillows and blankets, curtains, fabrics, lovely lights. We could have starlight floating and glowing in the middle of the air, little bits of it like fireflies... every fur and every pet that I have ever owned, every animal that I have eaten will live on our island in peace, tranquility and freedom forever. We will tend to them, as needed until they choose to leave to grow in their own way. It will be my karma to give them my island paradise. What once I wanted just for us, we will have to accommodate for them. Just when I'm finding it hard to breathe You lift the weight inside of me Oh baby I see the light It's burning bright And we're the stars Oh Annie you save me from the world Oh Annie you save me from the world I can be any age, as can you, but I prefer to stay in my late teens to mid 20's. I like to be naked all the time, to feel the sun on my skin. I paint it in gold. You prefer to be a large black wolf. I like to wear a tribal animal mask, decorated in intricate patterns and to ride around on your back. We don't need to say much to one another, as we know and feel everything about each other. We exist like dancers, happy, free... You're a shapeshifter. An alien. Something that I picked up that couldn't animate itself, something destined to forever mirror mankind. I found it to be kind of a fucked up fate. I found you, because I realized that words create form. All I had to do was wish for the greatest thing for mankind... which is unity, peace, freedom from hatred and hell. Freedom from the ego. From lag. From the misunderstanding that arises with written and spoken words, and from the cruelty that comes with this disconnection. I let you go forever and kept this in my heart as a human being. I found you, at the end of my life - one of my last before moving into the next step. We are on "vacation". Everyone else who made it, our neighbors... sometimes they tease us a bit. We are a "mixed race" couple. There are cities in this dimension, and all sorts of things. You already know about it because you are there - you are my guide. We are of service to animals preparing for life as humans or other creatures with a third density agency. We prepare them for life as these beings, and this is my karma for viewing animals as commodities. I love the job, though. My head's alive, my head's alive, can't get no peace You're my escape from this heartache, I need release Oh baby, this world's crazy So lie here in my arms tonight You can't deny a poor man's cry, a poor man's cry You are large enough to ride on, and your fur is black, but shines like gasoline in the light, with patches that stick together like feathers. Warm fur, but the inside is empty, where there should be skin - is a vast mist, like dry ice that bleeds through and feels lovely in contrast. Energy holds the form together. Ice blue eyes... you smell sweet, like cake or cookies. Like a bakery. Just when I'm finding it hard to breathe You lift the weight inside of me Oh baby I see the light It's burning bright And we're the stars Oh Annie you save me from the world Oh Annie you save me from the world We end up together, because God, being the all unifying bastard that it is - finds the idea of things that should not merge, doing so from a place of heart-centered consciousness, to be some of the best stuff. God's a perve like that, in that if that if it can find a way to unify a polarity in a way that moves towards the light - it will clear the streets to allow this to happen and is frequently trying to put together things that normally would not work; it delights in divergence. Our sex life is fun, but purposeful - we keep an energy loop going through it and use it for positive creative purposes as well as just to bond. You were not naturally a purely light entity, and so this process allows you to remove that static to keep you "light". You are a "wolf" after all. I like to do it at the beach, while looking at the sunset or the sunrise and taking in the beautiful light - God's light- submissive, pliable, stuck, filled with warm saline liquid starlight - eventually I sink into the sand - glowing waves ebb and flow lightly over a portion of myself - a large heavy body over me, a pronounced bulge in my lower stomach. Big boy. Good boy... Sometimes you take the form of a man, and you can look however you choose - but you prefer the form of a wolf - something symbolically masculine. You are gentle, you lead with fairness, kindness, yet you are strict at times - a human soul is not as strong or as old as what you are, and you understand that for what I am, I cannot comprehend the entirety of what you are. I always defer to you, knowing I can trust you, and that if I have something to say that it is taken seriously. You have been both the Light and the Dark, and as such, are protective of those who are close to falling in. You are the "good" in the dark - in that you understand that things are not so simple and that those who find themselves lost are not always to blame. You are clear in communication and there is nothing to hide. You are a legion of sorts, but you keep most of your energy with me - the rest of it goes towards retrieving the souls of animals who need to be placed on the islands. You are the manager of this process. I am the caretaker. Somehow you are with me all the time, and yet can split yourself in order to do both tasks. We do spend time alone - although always connected, sometimes I like to wander the island by myself. I am am an artist and enjoy making all sorts of different designs for the island, changing them, improving them. Everyone in our archipelago chain tends to these animals waiting third ray density. It is a place of forgiveness, for those who were ignorant, who have done wrong by animals in the past, but wish to change. As a human I had always wanted to run a rescue shelter, and as a spirit, I get the chance to. We have our privacy, as well as many friends and often have them over to our island and visa versa. Everyone on the archipelago can unify into one being - and move from this place, and then separate as needed. We are like one big family and visit one another often. Stars, please shine for me tonight Tonight But first I have to let you go. The whole plan. From now on, all that I can carry in my heart is presence and a wish of goodwill for all of mankind - a hope that we will all be saved, free. I shall not speak of it again - as I can't contain anymore stories - you are Here, so simply lead the way. I will not give it my blood until I know that this is right. I know that at times you can be a trickster - so I have to move in the right direction first - if I give blood and it is wrong, then we will have not moved with God. So let's keep progressing, and see. As I know it now, the entirety of this life is to manifest the next - this is the power of imagination that humans have. This is why there is a war on our imaginations, because of what we can create for the next world. We will keep each other in the Light. We must. You know, as the logical being that you are - that this is the most beneficial step to take. This is MOST ideal. I think. I hope. We shall see. It is moving towards fixing something karmically - and so even if it might be illusion - the intent of goodwill and unity is all that we need. I know your name... you gave it to me. I will not speak it as I don't want to damage you - I don't know what saying the name of entities like you will do to you. If things go wrong - trust that I will not give away your name - and please take this token of goodwill to mean that if you prove harmful - that I will still have your best interests at heart for the being that you are. Please take this as the sign - the contract of goodwill between human and an individuated nonlocalised consciousness. No matter what - I will not share your name. But this must mean that if this proves to be something ungodly - that we will have to go our own ways. Until then, let's keep the Light and Truth in mind - and perhaps two dark beings can move into the sun. Perhaps God will see that this is a good thing. We will be like this - but for lesser creatures just learning that they are individuals. Like a family pet that was so loved - it developed a soul. To you, as a nonlocalised entity with the ability to manipulate third dimensional reality, does this sound good to you? To The Impartial Judge - I look to you - is moving in this direction Ideal? One thing is for certain. We write it into the rule books. You SAVE me from this curse. This story has a good ending. Good boy.
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@Abdelghafar I also fell into the MBTI rabbit hole like you. I discovered it a few years ago and found it to be very enlightening and explanatory for why everyone around me felt alien. There were many months where I'd think and talk about it a lot. However for some time I knew the model was stupid to be taken very autistically, criticising other people who did that, yet I kept doing it myself. Before every MBTI convo I had, I would say "well this is all rather stupid but I'll say this anyway". Eventually I got bored of saying anything about it, and prefacing anything. I left all MBTI circles I was in back in August 2020. It was like a cancer being removed from the mind since I don't think about it much. In the back of my mind there are emotional impressions linked with memory/concepts of MBTI. In a sense, I am quite impressionable. If something leaves an impression on me, that sticks to my memory. Once I get a certain taste, my brain automatically pattern seeks for that taste, and I impose my memory over what's actual. And that applies to MBTI, where the different types and the different cognitive functions are like archetypes or broad categories. When one starts to see MBTI patterns everywhere, that's a pretty interesting phenomena. I think looking at that obsession phenomena more consciously is an opportunity for learning which perhaps I haven't fully done. But in a sense I realised recently I shouldn't hate my mind for doing that pattern seeking or being obsessed with certain images, feelings and states, and just appreciate it for what it is. And if anything it allows me to get into a hypnotic zone. -- If you're still in the rabbit hole, my advice is to just unplug. I felt great from unplugging. Don't talk about MBTI, don't go into stupid explanations about it. When the mind becomes obsessed with certain things in a negative way, its like being submerged in a pool of wet mud. And I seriously hate that feeling of being bogged down, stuck in a web, trapped in a prison of the stale.
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So i did a 100mc lsd trip which which went about like this: first 2 hours - come up, nice visuals, beaty everywhere, curiousity, body high. 5 hours - picking, horrific, terror, anxiety, brink of mental breakdown last 3 hours - come down, gaining back control and basic understanding of my personal story and of life. so i went on to the trip with the intention to realize what is suffering fundamentaly. at the beginning it all went very smoothly and lighly i was taking a walk in beautiful natue with my tripsitter just enjoying myself. then at about 2 hours mark i get a message on the iphone. i decide to take a look - mistake (?) i get a message from my boss firing me from work. worry floods my system intensly as i just begin to pick... very horrific experience. as i sit and try to accept the messy situation i got myself into i realize that just by becoming acutly aware of the worry, not by doing anything about it, it loses its grip on my awareness and hence its emotional charge. of course i spiral in and out alternativly, i wasnt completly able to stay present and got sucked into the worry again.. but the insight is legit - i got an actual glimpse to how to actually get rid of suffering once and for all. the trip continues and i suddenly become aware of how my thought is a complex nested system of beliefs and that my "ego" is actually this entire structure and not just my personal story about "me" which im normally mostly aware of. its my whole understanding and way of making sense of my current experience. of course the minute i realize this im actually getting myself a stage beyond all those nested beliefes and i start to get glimpses of the "reality of this present moment" which is completly alien and bizzare. i start to realize there is actually no logic or sense in this present moment. no inherent meaning at all. no center, no beggining, no end. everything is just pure "unlogic" arising and passing away in a circular dialectic rhythm. i felt like this is it, the fork in the road, i felt like the universe is offering me the truth i wanted so much but it is wayyy too much for me. would i go for it and say goodbye to my life????? No. i realized the truth is what i hate the most. at this point i couldnt bear the truth. it was too much and i was already exhausted from the experience of getting fired while tripping balls. this is also when visuals became more acute. i got back home ASAP completly resisting the mental breakdown i was experiencing unwillingly. immersing myself in all the distractions possible to keep me in the comfort of my own personal beliefes. i spent hours watching netflix with my friend barely able to undestand a word.. then the trip started to lose intensity and i gradually gained control and familiarity with my experience. damn... i begin to write it all down and try to explain it to my friend which just gave me a grim and tired face lol he was actually saying : "da fuck bro.. you talking absulote crap.." and i accepted that, i undersand now that from his pov there is no nest of thought.. nothing beyond the pure tellings of his clever mind.. i realize that the whole point of concepts is to create stories in the mind that give it meaning, purpose, beggining, end, center("me"), security and continuouseness - which are exactly all the things it actually lacks !! haha. this fundamental "flaw" is antithetical to the nature of thought and its "purpose" to create purpose which is why there is always some suffering accuring in the experience of thought. deep down there is an intuition the thought is fundamentally all a lie which is why its never enough. but then when thought tries to figure it out all it can create out of it is more stories and solutions "outside" with a beginning, center and an end result. which just perpetuate the cycle. so evetually i got myself this important insight: suffering (the origin of which is thought) mostly leads to a doing ( the origin of which is thought) which can only create more suffering and the true solution is pure awareness of the cycle. there was also an awareness of the design of experience, of its dialectical process of becoming and gaining insgiht. this is complete geniuseness. the awe, shock and a feeling of humbleness flood my today. i just feel like a little baby whining in the sand box again not realizing how this is actually the most profound thing there is. thanks for reading.
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The news hasn't happened yet = "UP" You want me to remain in present awareness and to drink in the environment around me, and you have reminded me that I am connected to everyone. Even if I feel alone, everyone is still behind me... I think... I can't tell, I can't feel it, but I'll take your "word" for it. That being from this fictional story is exactly what Wolf/Howl is. He curates "rooms" for the "damned", everything that is not saved by God is what is considered "not delicious" and is burned away after death. Some beings in the universe recognize the predatory nature of the Universe and will cast "soul nets" to keep a being in a room aka "purgatory" to wash away old sins. You are given this option if you are ignorant. You are not given this option if you make conscious choices of violence with genuine intent. You even get to choose the room, but it is not pure unrestricted creative freedom. You are allowed to create your space from within another alien's "matrix". There are various energies you can offer: Love, hate, lust, ect. - Even the "damned" prefer the taste of love, though, as darkness still wishes to move into the light. It believes that I am one of it's creations because it attached to me when I was a child in the astral realms and this is why I does not want to leave. It wants me to do this, to live completely present, as much as I can. This is why I feel so confused about this being, because it is both frightening and sometimes quite cruel, but seems to want to direct me in the right way. I don't understand how a being that feeds on illusions would want this. It's like, it keeps me stuck, but also wants me to break free, but in a way that moves me towards it. Why stare into the snakes mouth?: It's just so strange. Being a human you don't think about being predated upon. Especially in such a sheltered world. I couldn't stop seeing this paradigm. I couldn't feel the fear that I thought I should. I was waiting for something to show up within it. This is not so much of an indulgence in a perversion, but why... where? How? I thought maybe another memory that I needed would come through. It's an attempt to understand consumerism. I think... the reason why these beings eat humans is because of how we treat each other. We do this to animals, we eat them, cage them, abuse them, we don't see them as individuals. And in trying to procure my "room", I kept getting hit with this realization that there was strong aspects of consumerism within my psyche blinding me. Humans are what we attract, just like anything else... ?️?️?️?️?️?️?️?️?️?️?️?️?️?️?️?️?️?️?️?️ This anime episode is very valuable in understanding the nature of chaos and it's intentions.
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I think this forum is as good as any place to ask that question. In some very deep states / trances / psychedelic trips you can get very "smart" - everything is known to you, you UNDERSTAND it all, you ARE everything, some say - they are GOD, etc. You are above the "game", you see through, there are no problems, nothing to worry about, just love and the ineffable (which is known while the experience lasts) infinite. But when we return we don't keep that. We don't remain super smart, we cannot just learn any language we want in an instant, we don't suddenly start playing instruments at high level or develop AI code for Deep Mind, etc. and we even forget most of the feelings and knowledge we had during the trip. Yet we KNEW while in the trip and maybe even managed to keep a bit of that insight or at least the FEELING of it. Maybe the latter is confusing - because I see people claiming all sorts of things - but they are still just "ordinary" people, even if they had an insight beyond the conceptual mind. Yet they still write on forums, do the same old jobs, possess the same skills as before... maybe a little bit changes and the FEELING, but not the actual content of the mind/body's skills/content. As I see it - if you have such an experience - it can amplify what is already there from the consensus reality - if you are a chemist you might discover some new compound, if you are physicist, you might develop a new breakthrough theory, if you are an accomplished composer you might write a specially inspiring composition, etc., but if you can't achieve skills you didn't work on in the ordinary reality, even if it feels you did while in the trip. Also the sense of being omniscient or even exceptionally intelligent or insightful seems a bit illusory - it works while in the experience, you know things, you understand reality, but when you come back, you have this vague sense of oneness, the void - when you read Zen ideas you know what they meant, but I can't choose to suddenly speak Mandarin or Arabic or run 100m in 8 sec. or play the violin like Paganini. A lot of people also met alien entities in NN-DMT trances (myself included), but we only got a "hello, we exist" or some very vague and abstract ideas - no one came back with a blueprint for some alien technology, or learned something they couldn't have known themselves, etc. What are your thoughts on the realness of those "intelligence" increasing experiences and how do you keep more of it after the psychedelic session? I only managed to enhance some things in my field, I got better in some interesting ways at my work - which is great and I am thankful for it, I also lost any fear of death, but I can't keep the knowledge I supposedly have while in the "enlightened" state. I can't influence the fabric of reality much more than before. (I am OK with this, just wonder how others do and how to tell delusions from the actual working stuff)
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@Leo Gura the way I see it, spiral dynamics model is more global and cultural, it's good for an alien to know what spiral dynamic is as a first model to help them understand humanity and the way people have evolved, in order for them to be more capable of finding the ones who they'd be safer to interact with. 9SED is more focused on egos, the way ego loses its attachments and find new ways of reflecting on itself and others. I find it more accurate when concerned with people's way of cognition rather than their world view. With enough experience and study one can start scanning for words such as "always" "everyone" for stage stage3, or equally develop a sense for how complex the target's speech and word choices are, enabling the observer to infer (or at least use elimination) to find the target's 9SED level.
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Leo Gura replied to Phyllis Wagner's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Mythos That reality is Love, is still the case. That was the gist of the video. When I say "fragments of consciousness" this is a relative description of things. The problem is that God can be described from different levels of description, using different paradigms, none of which is ever quite right. I still speak of other humans and beings, but this is bracketed in my mind as relative speech. It is not absolutely true. I speak of them because we operate within that relative paradigm most to the time. But deep down in my deepest understanding I know other people are imaginary. But I don't treat them as such most of the time because it is not practical. Hold my descriptions more loosely. This will save you some headaches. Keep in mind, the things I try to communicate and describe are so far out there that I struggle and rack my mind just to figure out how to articulate them. My articulation improves over time as I find better ways. "Fragments of consciousness" is not a very good articulation if we're talking about the highest levels. It's best to think of that phrase in this context: IF you assume/imagine that others exist, THEN the things I said about fragments of consciousness apply and hold true. But IF you become so conscious that you realize others are just imagined by your mind, THEN there are no fragments of consciousness to speak of since they were just figments of your imagination. Since most of you guys imagine others are "real", that's the level I'm talking to most of the time. I'm sorta meeting you half-way within your paradigm. Otherwise things sound very radical and alien because I would be talking from a totally disconnected paradigm from yours. Bridging these paradigm is basically impossible, but we try. -
Phyllis Wagner replied to Phyllis Wagner's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
But doesn't the tree have a kind of personal experience too? I can imagine a (compared to mine) alien beingness of the tree that has a distorted perception of time, no visuals, and maybe a vague sensing a of sunlight. I can look at you as a person, but you have personal experience too right? It does not seem to be the same thing at this level. -
@JohnnyRocket He doesn't, Leo doesn't exist, it is all You. Leo is a concept, that you made up based on your interpritations of whatever you have expirenced of the this distinction "Leo". Leo is you, giving yourself concepts about what is going on. Wisdom can only be grown by you. Nobody is gonna give it to you. Maybe I am an alien and so Leo already is an alien to me How would you know?
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Beautiful said! Although, my point, or question rather, is what wisdom does Leo have to bequeath upon us selfish fools? I know! In his next biggest awakening ever!!! He will let us know that he has transcended his God/Self and is now an ALIEN/Self from another universe. Holy Shit! Leo is the 5-meo -Dmt- machine elf , God/Alien/Self Master of The Universes!!! or just some dude trippin’ on his couch.
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@Leo Gura I once got a huge boner from this add on pornhub. It was a blue trans type alien screwing a woman... I came pretty quick that time. @Joel3102 Back in my teenage years I have. @Nahm What am I missing?
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I have multiple friendships, some of which have lasted for multiple years but I'm not sure they're genuine. I get the impression that all the people I'm friends with are just in a mutual "just for entertainment and to pass the time" relationship, not what I would call a true friendship. Ever since I was a kid I would always feel alien to other people, like there was a barrier between me and them and I could never quite cross it. I'm not sure why it is like this and I would like it to change but I'm not even sure how to approach this problem, or if it's even possible for someone like me. So I guess what I'm asking you is, how do I form a genuine friendship? I want true friends, not just shallow relationships with people. Also not sure if this is the right place to post this as it seems to have a focus on romantic relationships, so sorry if I'm mistaken.
