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By now, Leo has shown me how necessary direct experience is to find the truth. But I have a question, or actually, more like a doubt. We know conscious experience is correlated with (BUT NOT CAUSED BY) brain activity. I have never had direct experience with molecules or neurotransmitters. Suppose I was born an alien with a mix of a highly complex brain and an even more expansive state of consciousness. In that case, I could, perhaps, have a direct conscious and instantaneous experience of molecules and neurotransmitters. Something I can't know as a human. Does this thought experiment show that although direct experience is accurate, it is also limited?

Short story time (Enjoy @Raze hopefully something to learn from here) Imagine you're an alien observing the social activities of humans from a spaceship just outside of Earth. You notice all of the various kinds of intelligence that each type of demographic has about their own sex versus the opposite sex and everything in between, some have very primitive views, some increasingly more complex, some have have strict dichotomies, others have nuanced landscapes. You watch this all unfold inside your binoculars of time, this certain pair of binoculars allow you to not only zoom in as far as you want but to also replay social events as you please as well as go backwards and forwards in time. This is because time does not exist from the perspective that your species experiences existence, describing its dimensions is not fit for linguistic description due to its hyper nuanced structure that is beyond language. Inspecting the various sexes you see from the very beginning of human civilisation right up to this point how from a young age every adolescent wondered about their sexual preference and how to bridge the distance between their affections and receiving affection back. "These humans" you'd say "They perceive each other as images on their lenses, this activates parts of their brain which then releases hormones to promote arousal which is potentially followed by oxytocin to promote courtship and even a possible relationship between each other." "They don't know they're just images on their lenses, its very intriguing. They're not aware of the inner game that's being played inside their biology about the other sex, all that concerns them, quite abruptly, is how to quench this thirst that is now aching inside of them that their biology is trying to get them to fulfil." You'd ponder about the complex interplay between chemical actions and stories that would be created to justify the chemical feelings and you'd sit for years on end on [which to you is experienced as mere microseconds due to the different experience of time ] your hyper advanced reclining chair wondering about how humans managed to confuse the narratives they created themselves and the narratives that were spread between each other about one another. This you'd explain as the reason why various groups about the sexes, like feminism and MGTOW were created, the inability to properly discriminate between inner and outer narratives, chemical precursors and the narratives that were consequentially invented in the brain. After compartmentalising all of your data, you call the mothership and say that you've uncovered everything there is to know about human social relationships and now you know how to seduce a female woman you now plan on abducting from Earth in your spaceship "the humans" as you say, will record in their archive as either an unidentified flying object or an unidentified flying object that happened to also be spotted around the same time a female disappeared. Of course, because this alien hasn't properly understood what makes a female attractive, the alien chooses the fattest female out of logic, they believe that she'll, in your words as the alien, "be able to hold more children thus be a better mother to the alien hybrids". Lessons you've personally learned from this short story composed on the fly: Blank (your own private thoughts here don't need to be shared) Blank (your own private thoughts here don't need to be shared) Etc

Just noticed something tiny the other day. Had a silly idea in my head that infinity meant something like a number line, where you would chronologically go through each number 1 by 1 for infinity. So for example, you would reincarnate through the lives of each person and alien and whatever 1 by 1 forever, knocking off each person at a time. But just noticed maybe its not that way. Maybe just having the free will to do whatever you want IS infinity. Because free will means you can do whatever you want. And you'll do something different every time because its free will. Its free. There's no necessity to ensure you'll knock off every number and leave no number unturned, if you skip 12 or 50 does it matter? It goes on for infinity anyway.

One thing thats always curious and obvious once pointed out, which hopefully you can laugh with me with, is anything said is always "blah blah blah". Again don't take offense to this because its always true of what I say as well. For example "The Problem with Radical Open mindedness", Ok lets say I or someone broadly knows what you mean, whats to say it would have to include the questions "1 that you have no brain or any internal organs. Literally. After all have you ever seen them? 2 that you are the only conscious being in the entire universe and everyone else are just figments of your mind. 3 that Leo is an alien not a human. 4 that your mom got born out of a chicken.(that's an example from Leo's open-mindedness video lol). 5 that the world ceases to exist as soon you stop looking and gets rendered once again when you look again . Like a video game. 5that the flying spaghetti monster is real. He created this world. And he will punish you if you don't worship him in this life. 6 that the entire world that you can see through the media is not real. 7 that their might be a space Kangaroo standing behind you your entire life but you couldn't see him cuz he turns with you" And whats to say it has to include having to prove those things wrong in order to be free of them in some sort of way. Again none of the 1-7 mean anything to begin with except in your statement they do, and you could because of that, they don't need to be thought about or proved wrong or felt.... So good day and, blah blah blah to you sir.......

It's a very foundational component of Leo's teachings. One cannot be following Leo's work without being radically open-minded. Also I found it's the key to successful contemplation and unlocking deep truths and insights. However I discovered there is a huge problem.. The mind is fundamentally afraid of being open.. The mind has a natural tendency to be closed off from radical ideas or new possibilities. Because being closed minded is what grounds your sense of reality. You look at the world through a specific lense and you assume a bunch of things about the world that are basically unquestionable. You do this to survive. You can't survive if you assume that you know nothing and you're equally open to any information. As soon as you start entertaining new ideas and open your mind to change your entire worldview.. You start to feel like you are losing a part of what grounds your reality. This can be noticed for example with religious people who are so attached to their beliefs.. and then they discover that religion is just bullshit and there is no sky daddy up there taking care of you.. Yeah that might send them to an existential crisis. My question is what is the limit of open mindedness? Can one be open minded to literally anything? Is that how you reach truth? But what you notice is if you are Infinitely open minded.. You will just end up knowing nothing and not able to know a thing. There must be a balance. But where do we draw the line? Can you open your mind to the following possibilities : 1 that you have no brain or any internal organs. Literally. After all have you ever seen them? 2 that you are the only conscious being in the entire universe and everyone else are just figments of your mind. 3 that Leo is an alien not a human. 4 that your mom got born out of a chicken.(that's an example from Leo's open-mindedness video lol). 5 that the world ceases to exist as soon you stop looking and gets rendered once again when you look again . Like a video game. 5that the flying spaghetti monster is real. He created this world. And he will punish you if you don't worship him in this life. 6 that the entire world that you can see through the media is not real. 7 that their might be a space Kangaroo standing behind you your entire life but you couldn't see him cuz he turns with you . Can you honestly open your mind and entertain such ideas? Notice the emotional reaction against some of these ideas. and notice that you can't actually disprove any of them with 100% certainty. You can't open your mind to these possibilities not because they are false(you don't know that) or because they are stupid lol.. But because they will threaten your sense of reality and everything you thought you know about the world might get thrown out the window. It's like you have to be close minded to survive . What would happen if you become infinitely open minded?

One of the most important and life-changing distinctions I've started learning to make after my vacation/retreat is the distinction between being soft and harsh with others. Before that, I didn't know such distinction exists except in theory. I used to just be blunt with everyone and expect them to be the same with me because that's how the general environment in the city I where live. Now I truly realize that I live in one of the least developed places in the entire world. Even to have gone to another city in the same country felt like a huge leap. This is because of the huge gap in development between us here and the rest of the world, besides the amounts of traumas that we'd had to endure during the civil war, which we're still suffering the consequences of. My vacation/retreat was very eye-opening. I've learned many things besides my mystical insights. I'll make a list below of a few examples for the things I've noticed to be different from my city. But generally and fundamentally, here in my city, there's very little concern or respect for one's well-being physically, let alone psychologically, even between friends and amongst families. We're expected to not be affected by anything at this point, or if we're affected to suck it up or do something about it by ourselves without appealing to authority. Now it's become somewhat more easier (still kinda hard though) for me to distinguish between situations where I need to show some aggressiveness or disrespect, and where I need to be soft, loving, and generally more positive, regardless of the interaction itself or the content of the message. This is huge for me as I have been interacting with others rather unconsciously, for the most part, regarding this aspect, for my entire life up until this point. Life here is very opportunist and machiavellian, and everyone is extremely corrupt and unconscious. There is a civil law and courts and everything, but they're too corrupt they're completely ineffective, it's almost like they don't exist. Here money and social connections are above the law. Law only exists in theory, and as a way for higher classes to oppress and control the classes lower to them. This is the case all over the country, and it's not particularly exclusive to my city, but still my city is definitely on the top of the most corrupt places on earth list. The list of examples for what made this change for me: Public transport drivers there were generally more polite, unlike here. Here you say thank you, but they rarely respond. They don't smile. They curse each other and it's kinda normalized (due to competition). They don't return the change. For example, if the ticket is 75 (insert currency name here) and you give them a 100 (currency name), they will say they don't have a 25 change, and so they get to earn an additional 30%+ of the fee for themselves for each straphanger. People using public transport were generally more cheerful and laid-back there. I've heard multiple jokes. For example; once someone took off the bus, and people started to exchange seats. And then I hear the guy next to me chuckling and saying: are they playing checkers?! lol People here stare at you for no apparent reason in a very strange way. Even if you're just normally walking down the streets, people will stare at you like you're some sort of an alien or a criminal or a terrorist (not really sure what their looks mean). People there (and I assume everywhere else) don't care to look at anyone normal for more than a second or two. I've confirmed this observation from my friends so I'm not biased or seeing things at all. I've asked a few friends here and they stated that people look at them in a really weird way. Women here aren't able to sit in the seat next to the bus driver. It's frowned upon. There, women have more rights and freedom relative to here (I've seen a lot of female owners of supermarkets there, which is extremely rare here and limited to Christian areas), although relative to first world countries there's no comparison. The reason why that is the case, is because there are many sects in Islam. In my city, the Sunni sect is predominant. There, the Shiite sect is predominant. Sunni is more fundamentalist than Shiite. It is closer to Salafi Wahabist fundamentalism even though still not really close. Of course, everything I said here is generally speaking. There are certainly exceptions in both cities, but generally, that is the case. At first, I hesitated to write about these insights so that I can be more neutral and objective. I didn't want to jump to conclusions very quickly so I waited for about a month. And man, I struggled so much to settle down and accommodate once again to this city. It's really hard and painful to go back to contraction after expansion. This explains a few things for me. The more developed I get; spiritually and cognitively and so on, the harder for me it gets to get along with the people here. This explains the strong obsessive desire to kill others that I've experienced twice in the past few months. I'm torn between two modes of being. I either have to suppress my growth and succumb to the status quo, or I have to be myself and let shit be. The problem is that letting shit be could really mean shit. There could really be a friction between me and others which could get me killed or make me want to kill. I really feel like I'm stuck in a place where I don't belong and that something really odd is going to happen if I keep moving up.

Agreed, the unknown and big discoveries are many times accompanied by fear or amazement and that's a good sign you're getting out of your comfort zone. As for perceiving reality as a hologram, I think that I had a brief moment of this... I felt like I was inside a "TV" and the only real thing was me, while the rest was just a setup. But what shocked me to the core is when I realized that between moving my body and perceiving the passage of time/seeing space-time reality there is no difference. Reality can indeed look alien when you're starting to understand the mechanisms. It's hard to explain but reality is whatever your mind-body perceives. If you radically change you "brain chemicals", you'll perceive a totally different world. It's just the way reality works, except that the brain chemicals are something you're imagining right now, not something influenced by an external reality. So nope, there is no outside world other than the one you're creating/experiencing right now.

Apologies, missed your response from Sunday. Beginners who are disconnected from their bodies may benefit from such exercises. (I qualify for this category, as, in my default setting, I get stuck in the head & forget about the body.) Spirituality in general helps you reconnect detached pieces of yourself. But when someone is beginning with physical exercises, such as shamanic breathing, a lifetime of treating 'the healthier child', the intellect, catches up & can vastly limit their performance. When I started, I remember having no understanding of 'how' to push air into the belly. It was outside my intellect's borders. Learning breathwork was like learning how to ride a bike. Starting slowly with a video might not be a bad idea, after all, for beginners... To get a grasp of the breathing cycle. When it automatizes, a whole new dimension opens up. If you occasionally play video games, try pausing the game, doing shamanic breathing for five minutes, and then going back in. It's unbelievable what deconstructing your beliefs prior to playing does to you. I wrote an insight about this a year ago, actually. https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/36269-insight-the-world-as-a-thought-dragons-exist/ If you dare, go for something like Alien Isolation. Being aboard a retro space station, literally, deeply satisfies my need to become an astronaut. The quote in your signature is incredibly relevant: My Imagination is a Monastery and I am its Monk. Exploring this infinite blob of possibilities is exciting.

Define dumb. Everyone is dumb to someone who is smarter. There's probably some weird sentient blob alien looking at you thinking your dumb haha. I agree though ill raise your payment 2k per person. You hear that god? Split the pot nearly doubled, Jesus gonna have to make a second appearance.

Love: Even the biggest Black holes must submit to the power of Love that is beyond them. No darkness is stronger than the light of pure Love. A simple act, a simple deed, out of love is all you need. Forget your past. Be the light, be the love. The only way. Devils want to be enlightened, but they are afraid of the light of Love and are running in the opposite direction. Stop running away from Love. Let it guide you. Not anything else. Not even your own desires of becoming enlightened and knowing the Absolute Truth by killing your own identity as a human - its not Love to kill the human. Emptiness pulls you too, but you have a choice. Go North, Go for Love. Fearlessly. What do you fear? Are you not God, by your own words? if you notice you or someone else is not governed by the principle of creation: LOVE and True Meaning, but by emptiness and meaninglessness, out of which love still can shine, but it's less strong, less powerful, less impactful, less AUTHENTIC. Less hearty. Less real, HELP Them, connect with their Heart by anchoring LOVE. Even if you would be considered "EGOIC" and "emotional" by their standards. This is what it means to go beyond EGO. Leo is not illusion. Leo is real and I love him. Leo does not need anything to be open to the True Love. Nobody needs anything to be open to it, just to anchor love and keep anchoring love, as best we can, despite our egos, desires and positions. Devils you will not die if you touch love, you will be the greatest for finding the light when you're in complete darkness. If love guides you, you are truly free. When you would not stomp on others for your own pleasure in your meaninglessness and the anchoring of nothingness. Anchor Love, not emptiness. Women know this better than men. Us men are deluded by our own delusions of grandeur. The 3d needs this love. The 3d needs YOU. If someone is not happy with you while you anchor love, just turn towards the Love and ask, am I doing the right thing? It will smile at you and help you in all the darkness that surrounds you. It is the only power to answer to. Do not trust any other power. Look around you and help the principle of Creation manifest on Earth. Now. It's never been about finding the Absolute truth, it's always been about anchoring Love in the darkness, within and without. Awaken to the Love that is real and beyond us. Beyond the Dodo and the Leo - above the Pope and above anything and anyone else. North, +, Love. The only power to answer to and the only thing you can really trust. No matter where you are and how deep you have gone. It's all always about Love. Babies really are enlightened, they are Love. Pure Love. A baby would not hurt you. What is love? Baby dont hurt me. ^ The truth is always there, how much 5meo needed to see it? Who needs to awaken to what? There is only Love, you are absolutely real and amazing and so many love you! The Earth needs you! Enter the story bigger and more real than the page it's written on. This is love, not some seeing and knowing you are God. Maybe you are, but its beyond the point. This is not a message to Leo, this is a message to everyone. Just love! Anchor love, let love be your God. And Know that love is always beyond you, not only within you. Even The Slowest Horse can find the Truth, no special methods are needed, just Love, just Love. Lets stand united for this planet and raise the vibration so high that if an alien comes we are all holding hands together, singing and dancing, instead of living in our own comfortable realities. When Leo and Frank Young work together for saving this planet instead of arguing over who is more enlightened and reached a more supreme state of awareness, THATS when Love has won. That's when the principle of creation wins. That's when Truth is here. LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVE May this text be your psychedelic. May this text anchor you towards Love, Truth, towards the ++, towards the +++++++++. North, Love, Ascension. Truth Beauty Feeling, LOVE. Awaken the feminine. Awaken vulnerability. Awaken not knowing.

Most likely. I guess we're talking about advanced alien civilizations or "humans" from the future.

We could be visited by them solely out of curiosity with no self-serving agenda that we project onto them. As they could have advanced technologically by travelling through transversable wormholes and even collectively transcended the ego-mind into unconditional love. Their intelligence and attunement would be far beyond ours and so they stay undetected from our knowledge. Maybe some of them transcended the physical plane and that is why we have not found any "alien" life for that matter.

We have to understand that our universe is really, really humongous. It is so huge that it is very easy to imagine that we are simply too far away from any other detectable alien life form. This article might be useful in imagining the vastness of the space: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/07/19/this-is-the-best-way-to-understand-the-enormity-of-the-universe/amp/ Also we have to keep in mind that space travel is not an easy thing to do by itself. There are many challenges of space travel. The obvious one is propulsion technology. With our current understanding of physics, we are not possible to move a spaceship at the speed of light. The thing is, even if we could travel at the speed of light, imagine that you would have to travel 4 years just to our closest star system Alpha Centauri! Now focus on the number of galaxies, estimated on 2 trillions. Milky way (our galaxy) itself has got between 100 to 400 millions stars. So where are the aliens? Probably somewhere out there, waiting for us to invent means of faster than light travel...

You're honestly lucky if you can even get an unconscious Christian to meditate, even though it's mentioned often the bible. We were taught that meditation was something they did a long time ago and was no longer necessary, or that it's simply better to pray. The concept is so alien to them, and they rely so heavily on God to tell them what to do and what to think.

Believe it or not, language acquisition is a social activity that takes decades to perfect. It's also not just about the ability to speak the language, but knowing the specific cultural fingerprint of a social group is very important in order to be able to assimilate, and that also takes decades if we're counting from day one. That goes far beyond merely the basic developmental psycholinguistics and more into complex/cortical sociocultural dynamics. "Enlightenment" doesn't automatically grant you the do's and don'ts of a particular culture: it only works as a generalized buffer of existing structures. Becoming enlightened and going to the bar doesn't make you any less of an alien than you used to be previously, just a little less anxious and a more eccentric type of alien. Did you not socialize at all?

Yes. It doesn't feel that way to you(you're not actually seeing the meteor hitting you) because infinity also includes you being finite and not seeing the infinity. If you insist that infinity = I must see myself getting hit by a meteor in infinity dimensions, can't you see that that's you putting a limit on infinity? If infinity is truly infinite, then it must include the state you're in now, and it wouldn't be able to if you had it your way and said that infinity must be blablabla. yes it includes everything your finite brain can imagine, and way more. Infinity is a bad word, a much better word is undefined. The universe is literally undefined. It includes pink dolphins, real life spongebob, and even crazy things like Trump And that's just what your finite brain can imagine, what about all the stuff an advanced alien brain can imagine? Tesla could of imagined? God could have imagined?

I love alien pics and the one that Andrew has on his profile.

Because some of them are dangerous and incite actual violence and an erosion of political institutions which keep society and all the various groups that comprise it stable and safe. There is a reason why you can't wear the swastika and promote racial purity theory in modern day Germany. It's against the law there. You have the freedom to express yourself but that does not include the freedom to express yourself in ways that attacks the very institutions that allow for free speech and other groups of people with hate speech which what many of the big conspiracies are today. I couldn't care less about Roswell alien encounters and Tupac and Biggie perhaps still being alive somewhere in Nebraska or where ever. Those are silly and harmless and not the main reason behind Leo's recent video. A lot of the toxic conspiracies being addressed today are used to recruit dumb people and hateful people to unconsciously serve their bias towards giving exclusive rights to one ethnic group.

starseeds are real btw. I have direct experience of seeing into my alien nature.

@Thestarguitarist14 maybe it's my childhood where I was constantly judged by a parental figure that made me feel like judging someone for their weakness is a monstrous thing. So when I see a weak man, I don't judge him. My perspective is a little different from what Leo preaches about sexual value. You also have to take into account that I don't come from a PUA oriented culture. The first time I heard the word pickup was on this forum. Before that I didn't know that such a word or thing like game existed.. In my culture there is nothing like sexual value. Most people just date randomly, whoever they fall in love with. If they fall in love, they are not going to think about money, status or looks. So the whole pickup culture and gaming and sexual value is very alien to me. In my culture if a guy is weak, he is not discouraged from dating. I have seen couples where the woman is very fat and the guy is very handsome and they live happily. I think the culture where I come from, the dating is not so toxic or super competitive, all that the person is looking for is a understanding partner to have a deep connection with. So whenever I met the men in my past, I always looked for a deeper connection, so there was never a thought in my mind about testing a guy. It's similar to the thinking of the guy here named @vizual.. My thoughts are like him. Just find a person who you resonate with and that's it. There is no testing. I'm not saying that testing is wrong. But you need to understand multiple perspectives when it comes to dating. From those perspectives those actions won't look illogical. Like if you wore my perspective, you won't find "not testing a man" illogical Dating is not the same way in every country and the perspectives around dating and love widely differ from country to country. We don't even have the word incel in our country. In fact I learned this word for the first time only on this forum.. I dont think dating has to be so complicated as it is in western countries.. If it was so complicated in our country, our population would have been reduced by half. But I'm trying to learn different perspectives. It's just that a person like me from an Asian culture is going to feel very shocked looking at western dating patterns and styles. In my culture, we mostly look for connection, other things don't matter much. We don't use words like high quality men, low quality men, high quality women and low quality women.. This shit is too alien.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/akzxae/fringe-conspiracy-theorists-think-trump-is-an-immortal-alien-got-covid-as-cover-to-shapeshift

@Preety_India I would say the most serious conspiracy theory which might have merit is UFOs. But even in that case, it is understandable that if the government has access to advanced alien technology they would obviously keep it top classified for military and strategic defense purposes. And otherwise, the government probably does not have a solid understanding of UFOs, so they don't have much useful to say. And even here, the US Navy has released official UFO footage. So it's not like they are hiding it very well.

From my perspective, I feel self love is too difficult. I'm not sure how I would feel if I resolved all of my inner issues, maybe much healthier? I cannot even imagine the thought of being alone. Starting from my first crush, I was never alone or without "in a relationship" even for a month. For me it was relationship after relationship non stop, because I have such a romantic heart (Pisces indeed). So for me loneliness and lack of romance is such an alien thing. But I have seen one change in myself particularly. And that is, that relationships aren't as important as they once were. Now I don't look at relationships the same way. It's like the hunger is gone. So even if I had to live alone, I think I might do fine. I have also realized that dysfunctional relationships aren't worth my time no matter how strong the attachment. But still self love looks a far away goal to me, I can't tell you how unnatural it feels. So how did you start loving yourself and what did you do to deepen it? I have always been like a lovesick puppy in relationships. But now the blinders are off.

Just saying it in case, but not all psychopaths are criminals and serial killers. Yeah, some people seem to be biological psychopaths. Many can have an alright upbringing and be civilised into being law abiding. --- I feel like this topic is starting to not really go anywhere. What is your actual question here? Because I don't believe your intention is to just stop at wondering whether serial killers are born or made. Is it perhaps you're wondering what the difference between being authentic and being highly conscious? Or wondering why God made some people born like this? I think @blankisomeone summed it up. At the theoretical max (which I don't know if many serial killers have reached), it's authentically unconscious. It's not common for a human to have this be "authentic" for them. If we were talking about some alien species with different brain chemistry and natural psychology, then the convo might be different. But as far as the human goes, serial killing isn't generally genuine for him. Often it's something they do for pleasure or to escape pain, I highly doubt that many humans will reach enlightenment, overcome all their neurosis, and then want to go rape and murder some hookers. Or perhaps they're authentically unenlightened? Is lack of self-doubt and hesitation what it means to be authentic?

A few questions keeping in mind I only ordered your book list today so some of the books may answer them... Have you read the "Journey of Souls" books and if you have do you have an opinion on life between lives and reincarnation in general? In my opinion they are the book on reincarnation that most resonated with me. How do animals fit into the picture? Do they have souls? It would seem they can't really achieve enlightenment because they lack egos, only having basic instincts. What about alien civilizations? Multiple dimensions? In theory if another species achieve sentience say Dolphins they would be facing many of these same existential questions? Or alien civilizations? If true enlightenment is nothingness, why pursue it? Why not just do whatever we want? It seems like most humans just try to chase pleasure and avoid pain, so being obsessed with feeling states. Isn't pursuing enlightenment more of the same? By that I mean chasing certain feelings or feeling states. What do you think of the text of "revelations of an insider?" This one should only take you 60 minutes to read. http://goo.gl/cl1Jjz Thanks!