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  1. @Charlotte @Charlotte (mobile won't let me delete the second "@Charlotte") I had monkey mind for ages when meditating so I just quickly extended the timer on my phone. I dont know if I'm meditating with expectations. When most people make decide to meditate, its because they are trying to reach something they feel they don't already have. And it's the same for me. But whilst I'm meditating I, for the most part, "forget" what my expectations are as I focus my awareness on the present moment.
  2. @Hero of Time good shit my dude. Don't feel too disappointed. For the first 50 minutes of me meditating today I had complete monkey mind, so I meditated for 30 minutes longer to reach the state I was looking for. If you fail at reaching the thoughtless state, just keep trying to reach it. "Trying" is probably not the right word here lol. To reach deep with meditation you have to resolve the paradox of forcing yourself to be unforceful.
  3. The video provides an interesting scientific view on how it may be the case that depression in many instances is partially (caused by)/(a result of) inflammation in your body. Inflammation is known to be your body's response to various harmful stimuli, like pathogens. The guy cites studies, and he say that stress can cause inflammation.
  4. @Faceless Yeah I look at these models for fun. Models aren't useful for enlightenment. True personal development requires closing your mouth and sharpening your awareness.
  5. @Quanty Indeed it is. But it is not the case that most questions (on this forum) are a waste of time?
  6. @ValiantSalvatore woah looks like you've got the good stuff. I believe you when you say that meditation will accelerate your development. It's the only consciousness work I do. Psychedelics sound like fun as well. How would learning integral theory would move you up stages (which analogous to developing yourself)?Is integral theory theory related to spiral dynamics? I skimmed over the content in that first pdf you sent and it looks like a slight variation of the spiral dynamics model. IS that right?
  7. Just wanted to hear your thoughts on some of these models for human psychology, and whether you know of any additional models you find good. I want to hear your thoughts on anything I talk about, and also your thoughts on anything new you can think to tell me. Models that I use: 1) MBTI I've found it to be good in understanding many parts of myself [INTP here]. MBTI has 4 dimensions of measurement, with each dimension having 2 poles. Your MBTI type is based upon the poles you are closest to. A problem that I have with MBTI is that people who are near the middle of two poles (e.g. Perceiving and judging) will their behaviour less accurately described through MBTI. Everyone is on a sliding scale of traits, and so to put people into one of 16 categories is bound to cause some confusion. I've heard the most "educated" proponents of MBTI on YouTube to say that MBTI tells you the "why" of someones behaviour, and not the "what", and this means that people in a given type can express themselves in a wide variety of ways. Even so with that last paragraph, MBTI has some flaws or it needs to be interpreted with lots of nuance if you want accuracy. 2) Big Five Aspects Scale This is an interesting one. You have five main dimensions of measurements of personality in this model, and each dimension is composed of two dimensions. E.g. Conscientiousness is composed of orderliness and industriousness. The model puts people into a percentile rank for each dimension of measurement, which means that your score is inextricably linked to scores of other people. E. G. You can be 1st percentile in agreeableness meaning you are less agreeable than 98/100 people. This model acknowledges that everyone is on a spectrum for a myriad of traits, and it tries to make room for the almost infinite number of different trait combinations in humans. To understand this, watching Jordan Peterson would be excellent. Lecture 14 he starts talking about the model. Lectures 17-21 talk about it as well. There was another lecture which is related to big five but it had too much jargon for me to understand. Maybe you can understand it. You can pay for a test made by Jordan Peterson to get a personality profile https://understandmyself.com 3)Spiral Dynamics This is the first model I've talked about where consciousness work might directly come into play. Now there's this model, and it's trying to map out "human development" but I'm not sure what exactly this model is all about. I'm going to copy and paste what I've written in another topic, talking about what I think about enlightenment and its relationship to spiral dynamics: It seems to me that your stage isn't necessarily related to the "degree to which you are enlightened" [I'm using quotation marks because I think words and concepts fail in capturing the nature of enlightenment]. Because of this, idk how to view spiral dynamics. I say this because it seems completely feasible to me that someone who embodies stage Red could be extremely conscious and enlightened. You could get a non neurotypical person who murders as a hobby but is at the same time, emotionally and psychologically healthy. The same goes for any many other stages. And a second point I want to mention is that someone in stage (x+1) will not necessarily be more conscious that someone in stage (x). Sure, there might be a correlation between your stage and consciousness level. But the fact that being in a higher stage doesn't gaurentee that you are of higher consciousness is indicitave of the fact that the foundational criteria used to put someone in a stage is separate from degree of consciousness, or the criteria is based upon on how different degrees of consciousness typically manifest (in contrast to telling you how different degrees of consciousness atypically manifests).
  8. Vigilante justice and mob mentality can run rampant in lawless criminal areas. It's all about what "the community" wants. The community wants to murder this guy called William. William runs a private armed organization which collaborates with the police in the area. Although it hasn't been shown in this video, communities around this part in South Africa have been known to burn criminals alive.
  9. I'm not sure I fully agree with mine. Being yellow and turquoise is too self developed for what I really am. Took it from here https://www.sdtest.ru/en/result.php?res=8455 .
  10. @White I disagree with you in thinking that enlightenment doesn't exist, although the concept called "enlightenment" isn't a simple term to use because you can't use concepts to describe a state of being which is beyond concepts, and me saying that you cant use concepts to describe a state of being beyond concepts has already created a paradox because all sentences that I type are concepts. That would indeed be interesting. From how you are describing Spiral Dynamics, you seem to be (saying)/(agreeing with me) that non-dual experiences can happen irregardless of your stage. You say that moving up the ladder corresponds to "more complex ways of making meaning" , but I don't know by what standard complexity of meaning is measured. From a pure non-duality perspective, I see all the stages as different ideological positions of reality which are all equally ungrounded. But if we are to try to look at Spiral Dynamics through the lens of something which is not non-duality, I still don't understand what Spiral Dynamics is trying to map. I'm just personally not of the view the human development follows this linear development of stages. Everyone has a different neurology, and so developmental milestones for one person will not be developmental milestones for another person. I myself am someone who is naturally low in empathy, and I don't ever see myself as someone who will ever embody green as a phase in my development of a person.
  11. @kieranperez I didn't like the video because the guy's just a straight up fraud, claiming to be Jesus. I don't think that disliking it is really a matter of being orange/blue. This former traffic cop may be highly conscious, but hes just starting a cult.
  12. I'm not sure what view to take on Spiral Dynamics. It seems to me that your position on the stage isn't necessarily related to the "degree to which you are enlightened" [I'm using quotation marks because I think words and concepts fail in capturing the nature of enlightenment]. Because of this, idk how to view it. I say this because it seems completely feasible to me that someone who embodies stage Red could be extremely conscious and enlightened. You could get a non neurotypical person who murders as a hobby but is at the same time, emotionally and psychologically healthy. The same goes for any many other stages. And a second point I want to mention is that someone in stage (x+1) will not necessarily be more conscious that someone in stage (x). Sure, there might be a correlation between your stage and consciousness level. But the fact that being in a higher stage doesn't gaurentee that you are of higher consciousness is indicitave of the fact that the foundational criteria used to put someone in a stage is separate from degree of consciousness, or the criteria is based upon on how different degrees of consciousness typically manifest (in contrast to telling you how different degrees of consciousness atypically manifests).
  13. This is slightly off topic but if you want to find "Red" people then look to criminals. The guy here is a genuine thug, and he's a textbook example of the greatest danger that can arise from red. The name of the guy being interviewed is "maleven". Imagine a society overrun with people like this guy. Utterly dysfunctional. Shows where blue comes from.
  14. @Anna1 is that supposed to be a naruto meme? lol