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If you pay attention you will notice that even in his last days before crucifixion not even his disciples understood what he was talking about

Exactly 😊

This can quickly backfire 😊

Got you 😊 it’s like “don’t leave for tomorrow what you can do the day after tomorrow”

It's Ok... I had a direct experience of that. But you have to find out by yourself, I agree....

Yes hehehehe... I heard long time ago about a religious leader or something (I don't remember exactly) he wrote books about theology, many many things... and he had a revelation, not sure if it was enlightenment or what and he said that everything he wrote was trash compared with the experience he had. Interesting.

You are talking about the life of the characters in the movie of Life. You think that when your body "dies" (the body doesn't die in reality, it gets transformed and it goes back to earth to continue being a living part of the universe) so you won't be there because you are "dead". Well, you are life. Life is everywhere and is infinity and it never ends. Life = Consciousness Life doesn't stop and it will never stop.

Exactly, that is going some steps deeper in the truth, I was just trying to do the finger pointing to the moon part Lol...

You just have responded yourself. The problem here is the interpretation the "Church" gives to this. Basically that sin is: not to accept you are GOD and try to stay in ignorance, that way you will be always in a cycle and never be awaken or be saved (achieve enlightenment). Jesus achieved that state and he clearly said "Me and the Father are one". But the Church twisted this saying to make him the only ONE that can achieve that and added a lot of crazy stuff that he never said in the Bible. The sacrament of penance and all that stuff are just rituals, won't help anyone to achieve the enlightenment that Jesus achieved. That's why Jesus didn't follow any of the rituals made by the Jews, but now we are repeating the same errors that he warned us against them creating all type of rituals and empty ceremonies that the only thing that can achieve is to keep people blind to the real truth that Jesus was trying to explain.

What is alive is alive because it just "is"... it was always like that. Not need to earn anything. The way you say it sounds like life has a beginning, so you have to earn it to have it... but the thing is life is eternal. There's no time, nothing it just always existed so it doesn't need to earn anything to be what it already is.

@Nicolagreen4 Some biblical warning you must stop ignoring is in John 10:34 Jesus answered them, “Has it not been written in your Law: ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS’?

Now this saying of Jesus makes more sense to me. Matthew 5:28 But I say to you that everyone who so much as looks at a woman with evil desire for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

@Razard86 Thanks Razza for your comment again. Agree with what you say regarding free will. It is something that I have always sensed but it is difficult for us to accept, but ultimately everything that happens is by the will of God. Not from the will of an ego that believes itself to be God hehehe... This text that you posted helps me refresh concepts, we "human beings" tend to forget what we learned, and fill those forgotten spaces with biases and as you well say with dishonesty to make us feel better. So is always good to refresh those ideas continually and keep that ego under control. :-)

I need to read that page 34 😋

You cannot discern because that thing you want to understand goes beyond your comprehension. That’s how the delusion gets created and the world gets created too. Because you are that thing you are looking for. And you because you are one thing you cannot experience yourself. You need to create ideas that you are separated. There’s objects etc others persons, that you were born etc etc You will never discern or understand with the mind or logic. It only can be revealed by an epiphany or some experience that will give you a glimpse of what you are. You are what you are looking for.