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  1. @Terell Kirby 🙏 @Nahm So true. I was meditating this morning, and started to laugh. It caught me by surprise, because usually it is just a deep sense of peace and freedom. Maybe laughter is the ultimate liberation
  2. As I see it, spirituality is the path to lucid dreaming. Waking up to your ultimate nature, within the dream, is the purpose of life. As Aldous Huxley put it: The Perennial Philosophy appears in every age and civilization: There is an infinite, changeless reality beneath the world of change This same reality lies at the core of every personality The purpose of life is to discover this reality experientially, that is, to realize God while here on earth
  3. It feels like the end of suffering, effortless creativity, and the realization of unconditional love. I see enlightenment as a journey, where these states of Conscious clarity last longer, until you are in a perpetual state of presence. You realize your ultimate nature as Consciousness, that individuality is an illusion, and that attachments within the dream are distractions from the infinite abundance that you already are.
  4. Ultimately, do you believe there is a distinction? Do boundaries exist, or are they only apparent as such? Is Consciousness all there is? If so, what is there to be aware of, other than itself?
  5. Who is being aware of Consciousness? Ultimately, there is no separate "who", only Consciousness being Self-aware.
  6. If time is relative, then there can be no absolute past or future, only the subjective perception of it. What happened to the "past" for the atomic clocks that showed an earlier time than the clocks left on the ground? If time is bound by perspective, what does that tell you about its ultimate reality? I accept that there is change, but only within relative reality. Space, time, and change are bound to the dream that Consciousness creates. They are only apparently, but not absolutely, real. Lord of the gods, you are the abode of the universe. Changeless, you are what is and what is not, and beyond the duality of existence and nonexistence. You are the first among the gods, the timeless spirit, the resting place of all beings. You are the knower and the thing which is known. You are the final home; with your infinite form you pervade the cosmos. - Bhagavad Gita 11:37-38 What does it mean to be the abode of the universe? Ultimate reality is beyond the cosmos, which it creates, but which does not define it. When individual perspectives dissolve, the appearance of the cosmos dissolves with them.
  7. We are what we value. The worth of anything is entirely subjective. As the saying goes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What happens when it is realized that there is no separate beholder? This realization is equanimity, or the letting go of value as ultimate reality. Attachments to money, popularity, etc. define the path that we follow. It is only when desires are seen clearly, as products of the conditioned mind, that the illusion of individual identity is dispelled. As Jesus put it: Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. The lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness! - Matthew 6:19-23
  8. When people say there is only the present moment, they are pointing to a deeper reality, beyond personal experience. Consciousness creates the apparent dimensions of time and space, and everything within its cosmic web is only relatively real. This is directly realized, but has also been supported by science. If time was absolute, it would pass at the same rate, regardless of the perspective of the observer. However, once you move beyond the narrow band of normal human existence, the illusion of objective reality begins to fray. My favorite example is the Hafele–Keating experiment: In October 1971, Joseph C. Hafele, a physicist, and Richard E. Keating, an astronomer, took four cesium-beam atomic clocks aboard commercial airliners. They flew twice around the world, first eastward, then westward, and compared the clocks against others that remained at the United States Naval Observatory. When reunited, the three sets of clocks were found to disagree with one another, and their differences were consistent with the predictions of special and general relativity.
  9. Ultimately, there is no location of the mind because space doesn't exist. Location is a meaningless concept, as is the idea of "my" mind and "my" body. From the relative perspective, in Eastern spirituality there is a form hierarchy for each being: The senses are higher than the body, the mind higher than the senses, above the mind is the intellect, and above the intellect is the Atman. Thus, knowing that which is supreme, let the Atman rule the ego. - Bhagavad Gita 3:42-43
  10. Ultimatists will point out that there is no you to find the truth, only Consciousness, which is itself truth. Relativists will say that after realizing your true nature, you will be free to live lucidly, creatively, and serenely within the dream, until your form dissolves, and you dissolve like salt into the infinite ocean of You. Both are correct, based on perspective. There is no perspective, for ultimatists, and there are infinite perspectives, for relativists. The Mystery of God is beyond, and still encompasses both. Mystics have attempted to describe this (as transcendent vs. immanent divinity) for millennia, but words fail, and truth can only be directly realized.
  11. The message of quantum mechanics and astrophysics is the same. At extreme micro- and macro-levels, the edges of reality, as most humans perceive it, begin to fray. It is not even close to what we think it is. In this dimension, everything is revealed to be relative rather than absolute. Ultimate reality is unchanging, and is the creator of all apparently diverse things. It is beyond the dream of the cosmos.
  12. Conscious contemplation is powerful. For me, it is more about resonating with the presence invoked by the words, rather than conceptualizing the words themselves. For example, when I contemplate the Bhagavad Gita, there is simply Self-realization, beyond thought. The stigma in Eastern spirituality against thinking is the recognition that we are not our thoughts, and of the danger of identifying with them. Meditation reveals this profoundly. You realize that you are the spacious awareness within which thoughts arise, but thoughts are merely phenomena that come and go. Thinking is important. Not thinking is even more important. As I see it, the merging of the two is being present, and allowing presence to guide your planning in life. When planning arises out of presence, it is more creative, more inspired, and more likely to produce positive results.
  13. @Consilience Can't we all just get along? There is only One of us after all 🙏
  14. Consciousness is the master of creation. Ego is the illusion that separation is all there is. It is possible to live lucidly, as a conscious being, realizing that your dream character is not your ultimate identity.
  15. @Consilience Amen and hallelujah. 😇 I agree 100%. You call out one of the cardinal lines I've seen in this forum. Let's call it north-south. People tend to flock to one side or the other. Psychedelics vs. meditation, as if there is only one path that has spiritual value. The other cardinal line is east-west, or ultimate vs. relative reality. Some insist that ultimate reality is all that matters, and the dream is a fantasy to be dismissed. Others champion the celebration of the dream, even knowing it for what it is. Lines are inevitably divisive and egoic. We are all the same, seamless Consciousness, and yet we draw these lines like children, within the coloring book of the cosmos. Indivision intersects with division. Maybe it is possible to realize the serenity of unity and the creativity of division, while appreciating the reality and the beauty of both.