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My mental health is degrading, the last two days I've been in a strange mental state. I can't handle the stress. I can't figure out how to let go of my ego, I'm just trapped at where I am. I'm becoming more prone to delusion. I've been having the thoughts that pain is actually true bliss because the ego tells us that it should be avoided and have considered ending my life or causing myself physical pain to test it out.

It would be quite the opposite. When you rise in the spiral, you gain some "super powers" so to speak. At stage yellow you start to see the deep interconnectedness in all aspects of society, nature, relationships, work, etc. You see the world from an outside perspective and see the systems at play. In other words, you start seeing things that 90% of people don't see. It narrows the competition pretty good I'd say. This is the stage where creative ideas and different paradigms start to become obvious to you. At higher stages you'll be able to express a deep love to any passion you choose in your life. This will attract people and things to you. At this point you'll be a natural leader who can develop a vision that others will want to follow. And at that point the competition narrows even more. Maybe you'll see things that 95% can't see. Plus, at the higher stages, the terms too different and difficult will seem silly. These are constucts that actually don't exist. You'll be your "True Highest Self" and at that point, no lables or attachments will matter to you. ? That's of course if you want to be competitive at all. You could also choose to live in bliss on a mountain top somewhere. ??

I can somewhat relate to this guy. About four years ago I had a similar semi-awekening as this guy. I was in the same forced bliss-mode for about six months, and than I graudally became worse for about 18 months and that when I had my first real awekning after a super heavy LSD trip, and it was brutal. Three days of hell, crying, fear, horror shame, and mental, emotiinal and physical exhaustion. By far the worst experience of my life. But as mentioned above I hope he'll be alright and doesn't hurt himself.

This! Which is crazy... Like literally the bliss of sobriety outweighing the bliss of drugs. Until I personally experienced that shift, I never *really* thought it was possible. I find meditation to be the best tool to appreciate the pleasures of sobriety. That all being said, shamanism is a valid spiritual path, at least it has been for me. It's just that over time one's relationship with mind altering substances changes. Instead of using them to chase good feelings (escaping one's present state in favor of another state) the context shifts towards exploration and curiosity. For example, I don't use psychedelics to get high, I use them to explore consciousness. In the case of weed, I feel like I've just about explored as much of it as I need to in 1 lifetime lol. One final point I'd like to add for other weed users - Until you actually feel the damage and have a preference shift towards sobriety over being high, trying to quit or scale back will probably be quite difficult. I've tried to scale back a lot over the course of my useage but always seemed to fall back into a habit of frequent use because at the end of the day, I preferred being high over being sober. Until one day it finally just... clicked. Inquire into why you're using weed, and try to really get clear on what its effects are. Explore sobriety and the nature of pleasure, and well being through meditation.

You are exist as a thought. You dont need to step out of yourself, because yourself (As human) is existed bu thoughts. If you go with flow and be at the moment, bliss is inevitable. Because you are already it, however thoughts creates self prison (such as you are human, in body, me and you vs).

@Nahm you right. For a second I thought I owned Bliss. So arrogant since I don't even exist Lol @James123 True. Only when I stepped out of myself I realize Bliss has always been the case .

@Javfly33 bliss is bliss. You are not the person who is experiencing bliss, you are the bliss.

@Javfly33 Bliss can not think nor be conscious.

But Bliss can be conscious what it is or not. If not bliss could think is an object and imagine a shit ton of stories. This does Seem as an important difference.

@EnlightenmentBlog ‘You’ as the subject which could be irritated or saddened by objects, or experience bliss, is the subject-object, separate self perspective. Eckhart is not experiencing bliss. Nahm is not experiencing bliss. These are thoughts. Meditation is ideal.

@Nahm I get that. Can we keep it practical, for the sake of this discussion. And since you can only talk through direct experience, is almost constant Bliss being experienced? Or is there irritation/sadness/etc still arising? (I talk about you, but there is no you who experiences these, I know).

Everything is fundamentally happening out of Love -- it is Love itself -- including physical pain. Of course, relatively speaking, physical pain is the opposite of bliss. Pain is an interpretation. Like everything else. If you are able to interpret everything happening to you as something you do to yourself, i.e. as Divine, then naturally you should be able to be in a state of bliss almost constantly, no matter the cirumstances, including what other people would call "physical pain".

@EnlightenmentBlog There are not two. There is no one experiencing bliss.

@Nahm Thanks. Made sense now. Does that mean that being agitated or angry also means experiencing Bliss?

@EnlightenmentBlog There are not two, there is not really even one in a thing or form sense, there is only formless infinite bliss. Apparently this bliss is believing it’s a “thing” among “things”, apart from itself, and that “it” is ‘skeptical’ and ‘ not sure’. Maybe a simpler pointing...if you = existence, and it seems there is form & multiple entities, but you knew ‘who’ you are, ‘knew the truth’...would you ever for a second be concerned or worry about anything? If so, what? Why?

I know it's stupid, but the thought crossed my mind. The ego lashes out against its destruction. The same things can be said for physical pain, no?

@EnlightenmentBlog Not two, is bliss.

@student still very useful post btw. Just wanted to say I was referring to other kind of bliss.

I'm not really sure what what the parentheses mean here. If it is omittance, I understand. Still, I'm skeptical when it comes to "almost constant Bliss".

@EnlightenmentBlog ‘It’s’ Bliss.

If this isn't bliss then... “I opened my eyes. The first light of dawn was filtering through the curtains. Without any thought, I felt, I knew, that there is infinitely more to light than we realize. That soft luminosity filtering through the curtains was love itself…” - Eckhart Tolle

@student No, you haven't understood the bliss I'm talking about. It's an euphoric bliss. It's a rush. It came out of a state of consciousness where I realized only the Present was real/existed.

Just curious if others experience this in conversation with others, a dissolving of sense of self, where there is just the awareness of the other speaking and the responses that come up. I’ve noticed it happening since I started therapy. It’s like being in a meditative state but able to converse and interact. I’m finding it happens as the conversation progressively becomes more open with vulnerability on both sides. It’s stands in contrast to how I typically feel when interacting with others which is slightly contracted somehow. I noticed it in therapy, presumably because it was a safe feeling space where I could speak freely without fear of judgement. I enjoy the bliss of nothingness during meditation and when two people are conscious of it it’s a really interesting and fun space to explore and speak from with another. Curious how other’s find interacting with others, in particular close family & friends and if they find themselves in this state of awareness or perhaps this is their default?

Pure Being = Pure or Absolute infinity = Pure or Absolute Love = Pure Absolute Nothingness Pure Nothingness is everything in a formless state or state of pure potential. Right now you are a particular form or thing. Your substrate is nothing but you are a piece of it. So you are nothing and something hehe. Once you become directly conscious that you are nothing and everthing, so shall you become it. You will be Pure Being. Your form will die though. Pure Being feels like Total Bliss or Total Love.

I am reading Path to God by Ram Dass. It is a excellent read. To answer your question, i don't know what the solution is. Nonaction isn't a solution since parasitism is the first thing masses gravitate towards. Ignorance is bliss. I didnt know about the riots or protests for a long time. It was a better place to be.