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So this trip was very unexpected. I had no reason to trip other than a strong intuitive pull that I had to face a heavy dose of mushrooms I’d felt coming off of my last LSD trip. There was no real intention, just my normal setting: alone in my room. What started out as an exploration into the nature of time and Eternity transformed into a deep unraveling of my subconscious mind and into the collective consciousness of humanity, the deep intelligence at play with the COVID-19 situation, and along with a collective awakening of humanity. Themes that emerged: - Eternity - Collective Fear - Deep Intelligence - Collective Awakening - Existential Trust Eternity I began by reading the last chapter from the book, “Siddhartha” by Hermann Hesse and by reading the poem, “The Mind of Absolute Trust” by Seng-ts’an. In both texts, the theme of eternity emerged, that in some twisted way all of existence is existing right here in this moment as nothing and this nothing is eternal. Though particular forms are flowing out of this moment, though specific form is this moment, all moments exist within it guiding the transformational process along. It was difficult to accept this reality because it meant that my life as this self was truly over, and that I had to let go of all that I found to be precious. Moreover, this life was never really here at all, but nonetheless this whole time I’d been journeying through lifetime after lifetime, experiencing form in all kinds of ways. I felt how this moment contains within it all possibilities, all possible lives, all possible stories and experience. My life was over before it even had a chance to begin. I shed tears of great sadness. Collective Fear As the effects continued to build, parts of my mind normally unconscious began to bubble into awareness. It was like peeling back in invisible film hiding my subconscious mind from consciousness. As this process continued, a powerful fear began to emerge. I realized I am scared shitless about the coronavirus… Having type 1 diabetes makes me feel extremely vulnerable and weak; this pandemic has affected me more than I realized. Yet more interestingly, this process of facing my own fear of death was just the beginning. As the effects continued to compound, my sense of self began to dissolve into what I can only describe as a collective form of consciousness. This is the 3rd time this has happened on a trip, once previously with mushrooms and once on LSD. My mind became the mind of humanity, I started feeling the lives of thousands and while in this state of suspended collectivity, I felt an enormous almost indescribable dread as a result of the coronavirus pandemic. I feel both privileged and traumatized to have experienced what I felt on these mushrooms. I feel like I carry inside of my soul an energetic understanding of the contemporary state of humanity, yet on the other hand, it was a lot man. There is an immense amount of suffering going on in the world and tapping into a fraction of it on this trip definitely left some sort of mark that I’m still trying to integrate and process. Deep Intelligence As if this collective experience of consciousness wasn’t a hard enough peak, I was still peaking! Eventually, my sense of self dissolved even further into Being, no longer feeling like anyone in particular while feeling like everything at once. I felt a powerful oneness. The fear being experienced didn’t change, yet there was no one to feel suffering anymore. And as this oneness persisted, I remember just face planting a pillow and looking into the void of having no visual field. In this field of emptiness I became conscious of a DEEP intelligence… I don’t really know how to describe what I experienced other than using the word intelligence. I saw that this coronavirus situation, this entire play of humanity, the entire manifestation of existence was being driven by a divine intelligence. Every little detail was infinitely perfect in its precision and role to the greater oneness. I realized I was none other than this oneness, along with the intelligence which creates, manifests, and propels reality. It was all me. I was creating everything. Somehow reality was being driven by destiny in the sense that there were 0 mistakes and there was an overwhelming sense of “do not worry, everything is going exactly as planned.” Somehow my life, and the lives of everyone were being directed by forces they were unconscious of; this is what we may call “destiny.” In other words, shit that happens aint random. Yet I also specifically recall understanding that this insight in no way violated free will. I was so intelligent, that I left open the possibility for freedom, intention, and manifestation in the midst of divine destiny. This intelligence was in everything, everywhere, and running the show utterly and completely. It was God. Collective Awakening Humanity is going through a traumatic growing pain right now. This coronavirus is being created by us, for us, to help us wake up. I saw a vision of vast suffering that would unfold as a result of these events, yet I also saw a beautiful vision of what humanity would become if we embrace our awakening. I’m not sure what the end destination is for this pandemic, but it is the beginning of a new era, a new growth in the timeline of humanity which will result in our eventual, collective awakening. What this awakened species will look like on a societal level, I’m unsure, but the amount of love and light I saw with this vision was truly inspiring. Existential Trust At the end of my trip, I realized I just have to trust myself. Perhaps this body and self will die of coronavirus, perhaps not, but all is one, and I am one with it all. All lives, all suffering, all deaths, all survivors are playing a role in the orchestration of our evolution. Whatever happens, happens. My job is to trust myself and respond to whatever occurs with grace, acceptance, and love, even if it means dying. That being said, still going to be practicing social distancing and taking every step I can to mitigate my body’s survival and the survival of my community. Existentially speaking though, the mushrooms left me with a dep sense of self-trust. Yet this trust is an extremely difficult thing to fully integrate because it means embracing all of my external circumstance and suffering as being totally self-derived. Final Thoughts: I don’t really know when I’ll trip again. It felt like I needed to see what I saw. My last 5 trips in particular have been so powerful, I’m not even sure what other territory there is to cover. It kind of feels like I need a second to catch my breath and just sit with the experiences as a whole. Mushrooms at the beach showing me agape, the LSD letting me traverse the collective regrets of humanity and letting it go, going Super Saiyan on mushrooms, LSD revealing to me the depths of my responsibility, and now this one… Feeling so much pain, but feeling a trust. I don’t even know how to feel about all of this other than extremely fortunate to have received these gifts. But I must admit, there has been a pain associated with having my ego tossed and turned, ripped up, and demolished on these substances. Yes they’ve had beautiful moments, but god damn there have been painful ones too. It’s just a lot. After my last trip I felt energetically prepared to continue my journeying, as if realizing how I am the creator of my state of reality was the knowledge I needed to continue. After this one, I feel exhausted. I feel… sad even. I trust the Universe, Reality, Myself, but one thing I still haven’t understood throughout any of my journeying has been “why?” Why all the pain? Why all the suffering? Why all the ignorance? Why do I have to say goodbye forever? How many times have I had to let go of the lives I love into the sea of impermanence? It’s all here, all now, but it’s all gone and never was as it is always being I guess. Who knows, maybe I’ll be ready to trip in another week lol. But something tells me I need to sit with this stuff for awhile. As much as I’ve journaled about it here, I still don’t understand the full dynamics and lessons that these experiences have given. I need more time. Overall, I take great solace in Seng-ts’an’s opening lines from The Mind of Absolute Trust: “The great way isn't difficult for those who are unattached to their preferences. Let go of longing and aversion, and everything will be perfectly clear.”

Spontaneity is a part of the mix and a pointer towards an understanding of the scope and nature of phenomenology could you say? An Awakened spotenaity is the transformation of conditioned reactiveness. No? Reply with a subtle statement or a bold statement. A declaration, assertion, or question? Maybe a song?

What's the difference tho? It doesn't matter to you if another is awake every second of their life or not, but deep insights that cannot be had within a human body certainly are more interesting than yet another "normal" awakened being; there are tens of thousands of those already. There are not thousands that are going to these psychedelic breakthrough depths with serious enlightenment work. Once your brain is lubed up from meditation and contemplation, and you pop a psychedelic, you best believe you're going to face God with full intensity! Not trying to start another debate btw, just interested in your thoughts on this.

I've experienced hell a couple of times, but never have my consciousness been trapped there. I've had the same kind of awakenings before, where the plane of "others and me" have been seen clearly to be a trap and a hellish loop. I haven't had reactions like hers to it though. Thought it would be interesting if we came up with some recommendation for her and people who are in the same state/space. I would say she needs to slow down, her mind has obviously trapped itself in a higher/lower state. Almost like a continous bad-trip. Her insights seem to have been corrupted or misinterpreted as evil. I don't have a lot of recommendations, just slow down, breath and seek out help. Also it seems like she has a big story about what awakening and enlightenment is. She thought there was a divine purpose for her and so on, then she awakened and found out her whole story was a dream/illusion.

@Matteo Of course, and that is why I said who knows in a decade we could see hundreds of 5MEO awakened beings, just so far we haven't at all. So far it seems it creates a sense of delusion, narcissism and Inflation (did anyone read the articles linked?) That being said, I am of course opening to this changing and am not tied to one path, if the psychedelic path proves to be more effective in helping raise people's consciousness and awaken them, I'm all for it. Like I already said, Psychedelics can give people incredible insights, experiences and even healing modalities, I'm just not convinced on Leo's whole more awakened than the Buddha based on how he acts on here, what he says and his videos that's all. At this point I would not class him as awake at all in fact, this doesn't mean I'm dismissing his Experiences or Insights at all btw, I'm talking about Self-Realisation, not just insights and experiences, while great, no experience lasts forever, no matter how high you go always end back here, with THIS.

@Nexeternity So Leo is still seeking then? Ramaji mentioned it recently actually that Leo isn’t in Non-Duality, therefore, isn’t awakened, can’t have it both ways. And, yes, very rarely are people asked their age when psyches are recommended, they just are recommended, I have no problem with psyches, my issue is with reckless recommendations to people too young for them. As I clearly stated I am not talking badly of psyches, they are great medicines for the right people, at the right time and when used responsibly of course. Never once did I dispute that. Of course “responsible use” is quite a blanket term, to me using a synthetic chemical weekly in quite high doses isn’t responsible, to others it may be. Maybe a safety post should be made on Psyches regarding the points you made, as I do see them recommended without any age questions. Ive even seen them recommended after by someone after they said they almost committed Suicide during a trip on here. My main point, is that I’m yet to see any awakened beings who are proponents of this 5MEO path, that’s all. Who knows, in a decade there could be 1000s.

What do you mean am I still doing the computer thing? I think you mean.... are we still both doing the computer thing. I realize I'm doing it ….consciously ….you don't realize you are doing it because you do it subconsciously. You are not awakened enough

Taking part in forum is divinity speaking with divinity but different bodies. So I find joy in putting conscious and self aware conscious word when I type. I simply type and allow the words to flow it is written spirit lead teachings. 1. Form is temporariness 2. There is no Identity. 3. Desire causes suffering 4. Suffering and the need to desire is caused by unconsciousness. 5. Increasing consciousness is the cure to suffering. Life is Alchemy Construction deconstruction deconstruction. De-construction is simply rearrangement of construct. Construct is form abstract is formlessness. Order and chaos. Divinity is synthesis. It is within synthesis that construct and abstract become a spectrum. The sleep state is the death state. 1. Death does not exist in heaven 2. Heaven is reserved for the awakened.

@EternalForest What if "creation" in an awakened state would always appear self-consistent with the universe from the point of view of the ego? I mean, by changing the universe you are also changing yourself, which could explain why there is no definitive record of a "miracle" ever happening in the history of mankind, despite the possibility that awakening could've happened an infinite number of times in many worlds.

Hi everyone Thought it would be a great idea to start a thread where people can genuinely help one another with this spiritual journey that we have all embarked on. The idea behind this thread is that people would share their insights and realisations with the aim of pointing out to those who have not yet had that awakening in the right direction. So we would sort of just be holding hands here and pulling one another in the path so that no ends up getting lost so to speak. For example, if you've had an awakening and you're directly aware of some truth which is overlooked by many then if you could.. you would post whatever ever that insight helped you realize as to shed some light on common misconceptions regarding reality. These pointers would then be sort of shifting perspectives in a way that if a person is holding a belief or some idea about reality which is preventing him/her from directly accessing it then this will help make that clear and help focus on what is actually going on, what is actually there. So if you, let's say, had an awakening to what love is and you're directly aware of what it is then your job would be to shed light on common ideas regarding love like how it's an emotion.. you would have to say why that isn't the case. But not just say so, actually help us notice why it isn't the case, point out the idea, expose the egotistic belief and what we're imagining, kinda like the way Leo does in his videos. I've titled this thread "Actually" because we would only be pointing out what is actually happening, things we've taken for granted. Like: "Hey, you know that thing we call an emotion that is triggered by electromagnetic chemicals? Well, actually it's not that at all because if you notice x y and z you'll understand that emotions are just imagination." So, this is not about getting other people to awaken to the thing that you've awakened to. That won't happen. That person would also have to put in some of the work you've put in in order to really get that awakening. Same way watching Leo's videos won't suddenly make you awake to whatever insight is being shared in the video. Here we're basically just all traveling while holding hands so that everyone has better chances of coming out into the light. I just figured that hey.. since we're all on the same path why don't we just hold hands and guide each other to the same destination. Rules: 1. Don't talk about it if you're not directly aware of it! I'm trying to prevent debates from happening. This is not 'the battle of the insights' thread. If you're directly aware of it then there would be no point in arguing because we all see that the grass is green. And if a person is not getting whatever that you're trying to point to and is just opposing in every direction then drop it. Clearly that person is not ready for that insight. 2. No dropping nondual A-bombs! Guys, we are trying to share radical insights from personal awakenings and we are trying to radically shift perspectives for the good of the path. But don't just show up heavy handed with it saying things like "Nothing exists". I mean come on! You're missing the point of this thread then. I mean if you're directly aware of nonduality then great for you, but show consideration for the guy who just started with this work. Me, I'm the guy who just started with this path and for me it sure as hell, clearly, seems like a lot of things exist. Alright, and those are the rules. Please, don't be stressful be helpful. If you get the impression that the other person is not feeling helped then immediately let it go. It's okay Okay then, I hope I've made things clear and that my post isn't that long. But most importantly I hope most you folks would be willing to help and share some insights with care and love. I'll start just so that everyone knows how I mean this. ?

50% Universal Mind 50% Universal Heart = Full Awakened Being Love is in all projections, how you see it is all that matters. If you can see the perfection, the beauty, the love in all, what i or anyone stated would not even bother you because you would see the truth in all things, even in illusion.

There is no arrogance in play. You do not innerstand the level spoken through the vessel and your message is flawed. There is no such thing as cut-time. All is now, all else is illusory. If you were fully awakened you would understand the level of consciousness/play i project.

@Leo Gura Great response, agree 100% with that. I feel some people want to dive in at the deep end in their first swimming lesson, which is fine, just be prepared for a few times where you almost drown. As you mentioned, even post awakening these things have their relative importance, unless you plan to become a monk or hermit, which I suspect not that many on here do. Out of curiosity do you plan to teach on any of those things you listed above? I was speaking to someone the other day, it’s going to be fun when the first/ more truly awakened nutritionists, bodybuilders, money coaches, businessmen, school teachers, interior designers, athletes etc start popping up everywhere.

Shadow Work and awakening are different in many regards. Shadow Work is very much situated with Maya. But a person can be awakened without dealing with their human traumas. So, my recommendation is to do both. Here is a playlist of mine, that I made all about the Shadow... it will pop up as one video but there are 8 or 9 videos in the playlist

Sexual Polarity & Creation of Magnetic Field between man and woman one of the greatest insight of tantra is male and female energies are equal and opposite forces. Yang and yin are one of the most popular examples of this. Sexual union between these two can create an ecstatic sexual experience through interplay of opposite polarities polarities. Polarities are present in both man and woman. Sadly due to social conditioning, these polarities are not being able to function according to their innate quality. These conditioning are like rust in polarities and they exist as if they are "normal". They create disturbance and sexual energy can not act according to their polarities as a result. Polarities are like magnets. That is why when man and woman come together, it feels like an attractive magnetic field. Through consciousness, we can decondition and then our polarities can go back to functioning as it is wired to function such way. Man will begin to feel their masculine energy and woman will begin to feel feminine energy. Male energy represents positive and female energy represent negative. Each half is alone and incomplete. So nature brings them together to become complete. The man, who is positive, has inner negative pole (inner women) and the woman, who is negative, has inner positive pole (inner man). Man carries the positive pole in his cock and the negative pole in his chest and heart area. Woman on the other hand, carries negative pole in her pussy and positive pole in her breasts. Between this positive and negative magnetic pole, a stream flows upward through the body of man and woman. This magnetic field between the two opposite pole is called " Rod of Magnetism" These two magnetic rod of man and women create a magnetic field when they create sexual union. This way, they become "complete". Male energy flow from cock into pussy and up towards the woman's heart. The female energy responds through breasts by penetrating man' heart and flowing downward to his sex center. A complete unit is created and now electricity passes back and forth from man to woman with active and passive phases, man becoming woman and woman becoming man. Tantra refers to the phenomenon as "the circle of light". This powerful polarity effect represents the highest potential of man and woman together, as a spiritual force through which it is possible to penetrate the mysteries of life. Information about polarities can help practically in lovemaking. Like electricity, body energy also flows from positive to negative. It is the positive poles of the male and female bodies that needs to be awakened to initiate the deeper movement of sexual energy. That is why tantra calls cock and breasts the " positive poles of love". They are the source of all life, semen from man and milk from woman. The quality of sexual energy generation depends on treating them as such during foreplay and sex.

@mp22 We must now remember, Leo is the most awake human ever, and nobody else is close. have you not got the memo recently? on a serious note, as much as Leo May think nobody else is awake, I’m yet to find a teacher or really anyone in the community who doesn’t think this is just Leo experiencing Inflation, Grandeur and potentially even Narcissism. So, it’s either Leo is the grand master of awakening and 5MEO is the holy grail, and over the millennia, all awakenings are void. Or, maybe, a lot of people’s suspicions regarding Leo and his “awakening” could also be true. Who knows! Maybe, Leo has had deep insights and awakenings on these drugs, but maybe isn’t truly awakened as he claims he is and that’s why he keeps going back for more? I will not say either. Who really knows? Although, I will say, I think recent behaviour has left a bad taste in a lot of people’s mouths. But, then again who are we to judge someone’s else’s awakenings? Maybe, in 100 years they will look back on Leo’s life as a great advancement in awakening and the proof of the psychedelic path. or they will look back on the first online psychedelic cult of its kind, that lead to lots and lots of issues. Or maybe somewhere in between. who knows? Focus on yourself, do the work and be your own guru, teachers are there to help you, not to idiolizse Personally I haven’t resonated with Leo for a long time, and am finding it very interesting what he is writing recently.

@Farnaby Thank you! Good question when you asked, 1) What purpose does weed/getting high serve in your life? Are you trying to escape some particular feeling (boredom, loneliness, sadness, anger, etc.) or void. When I try to quit, there are feelings of guilt, shame, sadness, anger, frustration, and melancholy (due to the after effects of loading up on cannabinoids and then detoxing will cause the brain to go through a rebalancing stage where the THC built up in the system leaves), but my melancholy feelings are also present with my feelings of depression and anxiety when it arises. My emotional awareness needs exercised, I also require more healing. I feel left out and jealous when I see people smoking after I've quit. I haven't been strong enough to face enough of myself to just get through a year smoke free. I would love to see myself at that point. I want my life back from my bad cycles. You said, 2) Once you have identified it's function, experiment with healthier ways to deal with these feelings such as exercise, meeting with people you feel nice with, walks in nature, whatever you think may be enjoyable. You will probably feel as if these things are boring without being high, but keep doing them mindfully, noticing if there's something positive about doing these things without being high. I can relate to feeling bored. I love to exercise, I love to create art. Smoking marijuana has been so stimulating for me that it feels boring in comparison for a while. The sad part about this phase for me is that the symptom of boredom lasts so long that it sometimes translates to depression in ways, or other ways drags it up because I am free to actually feel my underlying "lack in life." For your third point, 3) Meditation. This is "easy" and hard for me to do still at this point. I used to pride myself on my wanting to self help and my ability to being to meditate over the coarse of the years but find that by some capacity I need to exercise my ability to sit and go through the process of closer self observation, because it will be months before I can get myself to sit down again consciously and begin a session. I do quidded meditations but this is still noise not quiet self observation. Can I ask, Is there a tip you may have to slow down and focus? On 4) Avoid places, people, etc., that trigger your cravings, at least until you feel more in control. I care a lot about my specific friends and social time. My social time has fed me. How do I let these things go right now? How do I get to the platform where I am ready to embrace distance? If you have any tips on self soothing while I stay away from my pot smoking crowd, that's always welcome too. I begin to feel lonely and "unfed," "uninspired." Although I am an introvert at heart, and have always been, the more I have awakened to more of myself the more I feel fed by social interactions and have built closer and more loving relationships with my friends un leu of being more open to my own self love ( who happen to be the people who smoked with me). So while I am healing from my addiction my issue is creating new relationships that support a non addictive lifestyle and be able to relate to them when I do not feel like creating new bonds at all while I am going through change like this during the time where I would like the support or company of my close friends. How do I build strength on this? on point 5) Go to therapy with a therapist that you feel you can trust and doesn't judge you I very much agree, its taken me years to start to talk to a professional and it's been life changing. on point 6) Pay attention to the things in your life that improve when you're sober. Thank you. When I feel the important things returning to the forefront its when I am in a state of gratitude. I am not thankful enough in my tired times. 7) Stay active, don't stay at home alone too much. I am a homebody a lot of the time, I need to prioritize physically getting up and making the move to get out. I am active, I just am home more. This is somewhere I can learn to improve. 8) Be compassionate towards yourself, it's normal to relapse and if it happens there's probably a lesson to be learned. Thank you.

There is even people actually believing that the Earth is flat. That's an extreme example, but you can't judge a book by its cover, the fact someone is a psychotherapist isn't a guarantee that they are smart. And even enlightened people aren't know-it-all Gods, awakening doesn't make you knowledgeable, for example Gurdjieff didn't believe in Darwinism, he thought that dogs mated with humans and gave birth to monkeys (lol). In fact I asked Jan Esmann, who is obviously awakened imo, and he told me 'don't do LSD, it fucks you up'.

@whatthefucksgoinon Just so you know, Francis is Ruperts teacher, and who taught him the direct path. And, no you don’t! solitude and the inward path has its place but you don’t need to be a hermit, that can also come from a place of fear of the “dirty world” and protecting your peace. The only reason to do that, would be if you really wanted to, however you can be completely involved in life and completely awakened, Rupert is a great teacher. Go enjoy life! Go live!

What I've learned so far in this thread: Main issues: who is really awakened, who isn't? How do we know any one teacher is truly awake? All teachers and their teachings are false? How do we verify for ourselves without losing too much time? Also issues about authority to teachers and students. Issues on misunderstanding awakening from other states, enlightenment, paranormal experiences ect. Side issues that seem random, coming out of left field: masculine and feminine and what governs truth/untruth(possibility/impossibility), how to do contemplation properly, being a personal god vs an external god, solipsism, nihilism, questioning existence and sentience, the whole Viper's nest of trying to word, define and re-define God for yourself, using language magic to divine god, touching on ideas and beliefs as mind viruses that spread, reconciling old beliefs with new ones, and how God practices on different universes and how you've done this once upon a time too. Also the issue of threads getting off into tangents on other issues that hardly have anything to do with main issue.?

How work, when I don't have access to 5-meo-dmt? I ask questions, because that's we are doing here right, communicating? Trying to find and share Truth? Do You notice that when I ask You an interesting question, to which You could give me an answer(Which would be a loving/wholesome thin to do), You do not answer them and say "go do work". I don't know, why such an attitude, an awakened person would choose to express.

I understand that 5-meo-dmt is the wisest and straight-to-the-point way to awaken. However, it is not possible to obtain it and do it in the country where I live. Therefore, I am asking You, because I consider You to be awaken. Therefore, Leo, could You tell me what was the message that Youve got when you awakened? Thank You

@Artaemis Jesus Christ ?. We're all talking about wether Leo's right or wrong calling Sadhguru and all teachers as not fully awakened we're focused on talking about awakening, and out of nowhere BAM! "Leo's like Hitler, we gotta balance the masc with the fem! Watch out!" ???

Speaking to Leo on here was like speaking to Hitler. And that's not an insult. Hitler was incredibly charismatic, influential and powerful. It is extremely possible that Hitler was an accidental highly awakened masculine, who didn't properly balance the feminine. I mean he didn't just get followers for no reason. Masculine (truth) and feminine (untruth) need to be balanced.

I can relate. In the last few days, I have experienced a range of emotions after reading Leo's recent forum posts... from anger, doubt, frustration to awe, excitement, profundity & laughter. The same objections arose within me but It is apparent that most 'awakened' people in this world completely ignore the massive field of psychedelics & Leo is the only one who has cultivated enough balls to dive deep. All and all... he's not saying anything negative and seems to be providing the highest teaching. You don't know that you don't know and you'll know when you know. Our 'spiritual traditions' have not existed in larger time frames than 5000 - 10,000 years & what we see from Leo is possibly the way from which Spirituality reaches towards its pinnacle. Contemporarily, we have too limited of a scope to determine if the awakened beings we know about are truly awake. Learn to embrace his teachings, the man is pointing to the moon and we are objecting the pointer.