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Is Police Brutality Love?

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It's not loving. To say it's love may confuse people, it's too philosophical. :) It's okay, we are waking up and becoming more kind and peaceful, humanity is evolving!

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No!. It's a criminal behavior and these officers need to be put in jail and showed some tough love. 


"life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived "

-Osho

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The worst imaginable experience for everyone is Love.

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Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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Why you assume the love you got in your mental meanings is the same love leo is talking about?

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25 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Why you assume the love you got in your mental meanings is the same love leo is talking about?

Because that's what the word "love" mean in all human languages.  If you mean something else then stop calling it love or create a new term for that. That would save us hours of arguing over semantics. 


"life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived "

-Osho

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Because that's what the word "love" mean in all human languages.  If you mean something else then stop calling it love or create a new term for that. That would save us hours of arguing over semantics. 

You are confusing pointer for the object. Metaphors needed when normal symbols fail to explain. Words are subjective.

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7 minutes ago, Amit said:

You are confusing pointer for the object. Metaphors needed when normal symbols fail to explain. Words are subjective.

If so why insisting on the pointer "love" if it's just a subjective pointer? 


"life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived "

-Osho

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Everything exists within Love, even police brutality. Although, it doesn't mean that the creation itself is going to act and align with that Love, that is the creations (humans) choice because it has free will. They can be acting out of love, love for their people, love for whites and not blacks, love for their country, although this is the conditional love and conditional love is like a leaf that stems from the treebranch and ultimately the root of the tree, the source of all love, which is Unconditional Love. 

3D physical is a very physical and dense place, we vibrate lower than formless love that the heavenly divine is in. "raising your vibration" essentially means raising your capacity to love, to be aware, and this all stems from us being more dense, which is why we need to do practices like meditation, kriya yoga, etc to "raise our vibration" and reach states like samadhi or realize Unconditional love.

Human perception creates a selfish reality for itself that is self centered for it to survive. It is in a different state of consciousness as ours is biased, and you have probably read all that Leo writes,

States of consciousness are formless, which is why you have to "realize them" and not "read it off a forum and instantly get it." You can't realize something thats formless while vibrating at the level of physical, 3D, dense


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3 hours ago, Someone here said:

If so why insisting on the pointer "love" if it's just a subjective pointer? 

Logic won't help you get it, things have to be experienced, focus on that. 

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A police is made of love 

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''Not this...

Not this...

PLEASE...Not this...''

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I say this not to dismiss your question but to encourage you to think broadly about this if you haven't already. Don't take for granted that reality is love just because everyone here appears like they know so. The world is riddled with pain. Suffering, conflict and its worst, sadism. So if you're contemplating police brutality, try and see these broader patterns wherever you can. Whilst what I said in the previous sentence might seem to encourage whimsical/abstract thinking, it should be done in the opposite way, where you have a fine eye for detail and yet look a the bigger picture at the same time. Paradoxical but such is all this. 

Any random starting point is all anyone can do, so thinking about police brutality is great. I also understand you could have made this topic to spark a discussion and just observe. 



 

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Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough.

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4 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

The worst imaginable experience for everyone is Love.

Yep.

Seeing my Dad as Love instead of creating belief systems to cope is the greatest torment.

Except when you really identify as Love. Then it's heaven.  When you are used to being 'less than'.

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@Someone here You are absolutely right on this one!! I could agree that what Leo calls love is actually a pointer to the empty nature of being, but not further. In this case, the word love is definitely wrong and confusing because it misses its counterpart; fear.

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1 hour ago, The observer said:

@Someone here You are absolutely right on this one!! I could agree that what Leo calls love is actually a pointer to the empty nature of being, but not further. In this case, the word love is definitely wrong and confusing because it misses its counterpart; fear.

If you have become conscious of nonduality, i.e. Reality is Not-Two, then you haven't thought this through yet.

Fear is the sense of separation. "You" fear that which isn't "you". But that is delusion, there aren't two. There isn't separation.

Love is inclusion. And because there aren't two, everything is included. Therefore, Love is Truth and fear is only delusion.


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At this point I dont know why Leo or anyone else calls that "love".

Why not call it infinity?

Why not call it consciousness? Or infinite imagination? We have already established those before, and they have a better ring to them.

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1 hour ago, Gili Trawangan said:

Fear is the sense of separation. "You" fear that which isn't "you". But that is delusion, there aren't two. There isn't separation.

Love is inclusion. And because there aren't two, everything is included. Therefore, Love is Truth and fear is only delusion.

And yet, here it is, live and living. Rationalize fear/separation however you want. Duality is as real as non-duality. That's true non-duality. Stop denying fear. Stop denying the illusion. The illusion is true. The circle is complete.

And btw, love is also the sense of separation. "You" love that which isn't "you". So, this argument is invalid, as it must be, because love and fear are identical. You only are you. Being is not love. It is love + fear.

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16 minutes ago, Mafortu said:

At this point I dont know why Leo or anyone else calls that "love".

Why not call it infinity?

Why not call it consciousness? Or infinite imagination? We have already established those before, and they have a better ring to them.

Correct! These are much better terms.

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There isn't anything inherently human about real Love. 

'Love', not 'love'.

Love is the nature of Universe, therefore, reality. Police brutality exists within reality.


“The psychotic drowns in the same waters in which the mystic swims with delight.”

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3 hours ago, Mafortu said:

At this point I dont know why Leo or anyone else calls that "love".

Why not call it infinity?

Why not call it consciousness? Or infinite imagination? We have already established those before, and they have a better ring to them.

Those terms are used interchangeably.   Think if it as unconditional Love.  A complete lack of bias and acceptance of all of itself.  And remember Infinity is not just emptiness.  It is that but it also is total Love for itself.


 

Wisdom.  Truth.  Love.

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