Inliytened1

I knew you couldn't resist posting here.

Precisely. Now..Awakening is something else. That will literally die. That only takes self inquiry. It does not take 5-MeO-DMT. But if you have access to that go.for it. Otherwise sit in meditation. As long as it takes. When you feel no self then come back and talk to me about it. But up until that - its just conceptual.

@Princess Arabia be careful about turning no self into a belief. It's the biggest trap in spirituality. Truly discovering no self - now that's another matter. That's awakening- or the first and most paramount of awakenings. But if you havent had that then be careful about adopting it as a religion.

@Princess Arabia you've been listening to too much neo-advaita.

Its like developing a game and then putting yourself into the game as a finite player. As the player telling yourself you designed the game doesn't mean much because you have limited yourself and you are now within the confines of the game. So you will lose hit points and take damage. And you will feel it completely.

OK see how that works out for you. I guarantee you find meaning when you are supposed to show up for work and you don't. There will be consequences.

@Sugarcoat that's a good point. Physical pain and suffering exists so long as you are in finite form. If you aren't feeling it then it doesn't exist for you. But it's only a matter of time before you get old and whither away.

I understand but you exist in a reality where there is a construct. A subject and an object. You can go meta on that but in everyday life you cannot tell your boss you were late for work because there isn't a you. You are confined to the rules of the construct.

Well yes. But that is a subjective point of view. You cannot escape your own outlook on reality. No matter how mich you choose.

Misery is subjective.

@What Am I it's very beautiful but it's two guys trying to describe awakening. its just ineffable - I wonder why neither says that. It's ineffable. And it can't be described.

Brilliant!

Precisely why I stopped watching Rogan. If you want to keep puking up last night's dinner then keep watching him.

The only meaning I could decipher was that it is a sickness relative to fhe ego. But even that was a stretch. I don't think he knows what enlightenment is - too caught up in his teacher's language.

@Someone here You must simply be happy within yourself. Looking for happiness externally is a battle almost never won. It is a thirst quenched only temporarily- with the thirst only to return with a stronger vengeance.