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What Is Death - How Immortality Works https://youtu.be/1zjuDdysOL8 "Oh wow.. Oh wow... Oh wow..." - Steve Jobs' last words Death as an unchallenged assumption: Leo points out that people often accept the concept of death without questioning its reality or the assumption that it's unknowable. He challenges viewers to consider the validity of these preconceived notions. Equivalence of death to positive absolutes: Leo claims that what we perceive as death actually equates to infinite love, consciousness, God, immortality, paradise or heaven, and complete non-duality—a transformative state rather than an end. Materialism vs. experiential insight: He emphasizes that the insights he shares about death are not beliefs or ideologies but are based on direct experiences, urging viewers to validate these truths through their experience rather than accepting them on faith. Death misconstrued due to self-bias: Leo discusses how the fear-driven, self-centric view distorts the perception of death, causing humans to view it negatively while they lack an objective understanding of what it actually entails. Life as identity construction: He argues that life and existence are not merely biological processes but rather constructions of identity within the mind, suggesting that we perpetuate our own existence through continual reaffirmation of this constructed identity. Tree metaphor for self and identity: Using the example of a tree, Leo explains that just as there is no inherent tree identity from the tree's own point of view, humans project and construct their identities as well, implying that our conceptions of life and death are similarly self-created. Relativity and Arbitrariness of Identity: Our identities are not fixed or factual but are constructed based on various layers of identification such as race, gender, nationality, profession, and even the idea of being a biological entity. Identity Creation and Birth: Leo suggests that birth is not a biological process but an identity created by telling oneself what they are. If one stops affirming their identity based on any characteristics, they would theoretically have never been born. Constant Reaffirmation of Life: Staying alive is a continuous act of affirming one's identity, done every moment by affirming attributes such as humanity, gender, beliefs, and personal stories. Death Through Loss of Identity: Leo defines death as the end of identifying with any construct, explaining that the loss of identity within different layers leads to a figurative death, evidenced by the mourning of lost social status or wealth. Existence Without Identity: If one could completely relinquish all layers of identity, including the fundamental belief in being a living biological entity, life would continue, but it would be as if they had never been born—their existence would continue without a personal identity. True Self as Non-Identification: Removing all artificial layers of identity leads one to discover their 'True Self', a state of formless, infinite, and empty consciousness where the distinction between 'I' and 'everything' dissolves. Physical Death vs. Psychological Death: Leo argues that physical death is unnecessary for understanding death because the body is just another identity layer. By deconstructing this identity, one can experience death without physical dying. Direct Experience of Psychological Death: Leo speaks from his experience, claiming that he has repeatedly gone through psychological death, realizing that death doesn't involve going anywhere as there is no 'here' or 'there' in the state of true consciousness. Death as Demonized Social Construct: Societal views on death have been shaped by a cultural agreement to view it as something to be feared and avoided at all costs. This view supports the idea of survival but is based on the false premise that survival defends something real. Eliminating the Fear of Death: Imagining a life without the fear of death can lead to fundamental changes in attitudes toward work and relationships and could eliminate fear from life completely, as fear is shown to be a powerful tool of self-deception. Death Cloaked in Fear Hides Truth: The universal fear of death prevents the exploration of existential truths such as love, infinity, and God, which have been metaphorically tagged as death, adding to the depth of fear and misunderstanding. Duality of existence: Leo describes life as an expression of selfishness, delusion, and attachment, while death is seen as selflessness, truth, and freedom. He contrasts the two states, presenting death as a dissolution of identity and a merging with infinite consciousness. Existential love contrasted with human love: He distinguishes between human notions of love and existential love, which is formless consciousness. Leo suggests that death brings about an experience of existential love that transcends our conventional understanding of love. Death as transformation: Leo explains that at the time of death, personal identity dissolves completely, allowing one to merge with the universe and become indistinguishable from everything, leading to infinite and formless existence. Metaphor of water: Using the metaphor of water, Leo illustrates the transition from having a specific shape to becoming shapeless. He relates this to death, conceptualizing it as moving from a defined form to a state of formlessness, which he views as our truest nature. Living from a place of formlessness: He suggests that it is possible to live from a place of formlessness without physical death, by detaching from all identity. This detachment would allow for universal relation and appreciation of existence. Attachment as a spiritual obstacle: Leo highlights how attachment to material things like wealth or success prevents one from realizing formless and infinite identity. He echoes religious teachings that identify attachment as contrary to spiritual growth. The irony of fearing death: He acknowledges that despite his assertions that death is a state of absolute love and beauty, individuals remain terrified of losing their specific form and identity. Cycle of division and unification: Leo explains that life involves a continuous process of division (birth) and unification (death), with both existing within a universal formless identity. Tragedy and irony of human existence: He perceives human life as a series of elaborate schemes to avoid the profound reality of infinite love, which is so overwhelming that it obliterates finite existence. Infinite love as both terrifying and beautiful: Leo asserts that the most tragic aspect of human life is the denial of the total beauty and goodness of existence, termed infinite love, which we avoid to maintain our finite identities. Unified Consciousness Through Death: When individuals pass away, their separation dissolves, and they merge with the collective consciousness which is ever-present. Leo asserts that all who have ever lived, including historical figures like Caesar and contemporary loved ones, are part of this collective and have never actually gone anywhere. Societal Denial of Infinite Consciousness: Society, families, and individuals vehemently deny the concept of infinite love and collective consciousness, often labeling those who speak of it as delusional or insane. This denial, according to Leo, is necessary to maintain the illusion of being separate, finite beings. Relativity of Death: Leo describes death as being relative. What dies is merely the personal identity, while from an absolute standpoint, nothing really dies. He posits that existence is a constantly reincarnating phenomenon, with reality being a shape-shifting manifestation that is inherently immortal. Immortality Through Identity Shift: Leo reflects on an early insight he had about immortality that originated from a Zen parable. Realizing immortality entails shifting one's identity from being limited and finite, like a tree, to being the whole forest, and ultimately to identifying with the totality of the universe. Universe vs Universe: Differentiating between the finite, scientific universe (with a lowercase 'u') and the absolute, all-encompassing universe (with an uppercase 'U'), Leo claims that true immortality resides in identifying with the latter, which is neither created nor destroyed. The Irony of Resistance: Leo discusses how many people's skepticism and pessimism are actually a denial of the fundamental nature of love and goodness inherent in existence. He assures that regardless of resistance, everyone will eventually become one with this infinite love, which is the true design of life. Self-Deception and Alignment with Life: Leo speaks of life as a journey toward recognizing and transcending one's self-imposed limitations. Alignment with the process of self-transcendence results in peace and joy, while clinging to self-deception leads to suffering. Reincarnation as an Infinite Process: From the highest perspective, everything reincarnates infinitely. As such, after one's physical demise, identity or form becomes irrelevant because, at the absolute level, one is already experiencing existence through every possible form. Knowledge Through Death: Leo suggests the only way to fully understand these concepts of death and immortality is to experience a kind of death personally. To know these truths, one must go beyond intellectual speculation and engage with direct experience. Rejecting Physical Suicide: Despite discussing the illusion of death, Leo reaffirms that one does not need to engage in physical suicide—using this understanding as a means to deepen appreciation for life and to embody the paradox of being both finite and infinite. Discouragement of physical suicide: Leo stresses that physical suicide out of depression or misery is not necessary and counterproductive, emphasizing that it is done out of a misplaced sense of self, which is ultimately selfish. Advocacy for mental and existential transcendence: He advocates for transcending suffering and depression not physically but mentally or existentially, and for becoming an example to others of spiritual possibilities. Appreciation for physical existence: Leo encourages embracing and appreciating the beauty and wonder of the material world, acknowledging it as an amazing and remarkable manifestation of love in physical form. Impermanence of form: He acknowledges the temporal nature of all formed things, including humans, planets, and stars, noting that while they are mortal, consciousness, truth, and love are immortal absolutes. Oneness and immortality: Leo discusses the concept of oneness, asserting that in a state of total oneness, notions of death are irrelevant, as there is no 'other place' to go. Shift in identity towards the absolute: He suggests a shift in perception from identifying as a human to identifying as the totality or the absolute (God) to realize a form of immortality. Acknowledgment of residual attachments: Despite spiritual awakening, Leo recognizes that individuals may still harbor attachments to life and mortality, and he highlights the difficulty in completely detaching from all aspects of material existence. Joy in dual existence: He advises enjoying life's experiences and dual aspects—physical life and spiritual immortality—without choosing between them, stating the reality allows the enjoyment of both sides. Descendo

Conscious Politics - Part 1 - The Deepest Political Analysis You'll Ever Hear https://youtu.be/klWq18u3GiU "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato Purpose of the 'Conscious Politics' Series: Leo plans a multi-part series on 'conscious politics', aiming to correct widespread ignorance about politics and government, and provide a new holistic approach with practical applications. Personal Political Awakening: Leo shares that, parallel to his personal spiritual awakening, he has undergone a political awakening. This has led to profound insights, which he intends to translate into tangible policy proposals under the banner of 'conscious politics'. Definitions and Requirements for Understanding: Detailed foundational theories and modalities such as non-duality, spiral dynamics, self-deception, and systems thinking are required to grasp the concepts Leo will be discussing about 'conscious politics'. Self-Deception in Politics: Voters and politicians are mutually self-deceived, which complicates the political landscape, extending beyond simplistic finger-pointing at specific leaders or parties. Global Relevance of Discussed Principles: Although Leo utilizes examples from American politics, the principles he discusses are universally applicable to political situations worldwide. Spirituality and Politics Integration: Rejecting the notion that spirituality and politics should be separated, Leo stresses the role of politics in elevating societal and individual consciousness, and advocates for the involvement of conscious individuals in politics. Hazards of Political Apathy: Refusing to engage in politics leads to the proliferation of unconscious politics, characterized by selfishness and destructive behaviors, which Leo refers to as "devilry." Insufficiency of Traditional Spiritual Teachings: Leo criticizes traditional spiritual teachings for lacking modern insights such as ecology and modern psychology, and calls for an integrated approach where philosophy and politics complement each other. Introduction to 'Conscious Politics': Leo presents 'conscious politics' as an innovative approach, integrating deep theoretical foundations with practical policy implications, addressing the complex and deceptive nature of politics. Culture Wars and Politics: The current political climate is marred by culture wars fueled by social justice warriors and their opponents. This leads to a distraction from serious issues and derails meaningful discussions. Transcendence of Partisan Politics: Leo Gura stresses the importance of transcending conventional partisan politics and group think. He asserts that both the political left and right are flawed and encourages aiming for higher consciousness in political thought. Limitations of Political Positions: Leo advises that we should acknowledge the limitations of any political position we hold, understanding that they are partial and may serve as a defense mechanism for our egos. Elevation in Conscious Politics: At the heart of conscious politics is the idea of elevation, which refers to the level of self-awareness and consciousness, surpassing the simplistic binary of left versus right politics. Misperceptions in Media Analysis: Media tends to ignore the conscious-unconscious spectrum in politics, getting caught in the left-right dichotomy and misanalyzing the political scenario. Government Taken for Granted: Leo argues that modern citizens take government for granted due to the success and efficiency of state functions, leading to complacency and the adoption of dismissive ideologies about government's value. Government as a Technology: Leo characterizes government as a technology more significant than the internet or electricity, underscoring its role in creating democracy, free speech, minority rights, and more, which were once radical innovations. Danger of Status Quo Thinking: He cautions against being trapped in the status quo, emphasizing the need for openness to radical new advances within society and government as it grows and evolves. Government's Scale and Complexity: Leo explains that the government is an extraordinary organization that manages to build consensus among hundreds of millions of people with varying ideologies, a feat that should not be underestimated. Misconceptions about the Role of Government: Tackling the notion that government is only a burden, Leo lists the extensive protections and services provided by the government including protection from enslavement, oppression, theft, and ensuring property rights and fair court systems. Government as a Protector and Provider: Leo describes government as an essential provider of services like crime prevention, emergency services, natural disaster relief, healthcare, and infrastructure such as roads and sewage systems. It also supports citizens through poverty relief, public education, and research and development for health. Subsidies and Regulations for Public Welfare: Leo mentions farming subsidies to prevent famines, building codes for safe construction, and food regulations to maintain hygiene and avoid health hazards, illustrating government's role in ensuring public welfare and safety. Enforcement of Minority Rights: The maintenance and enforcement of minority rights are highlighted as a critical role of government, which prevents the oppression of minorities by the majority, and Leo stresses that without government, minority rights would be at risk. Private Sector Limitations: Leo argues against the libertarian notion that the private sector can replace government functions. He emphasizes the private sector's profit motive can undermine fair adjudication and public welfare, potentially leading to exploitative and unchecked corporate power. Vital Functions Beyond Private Capabilities: Leo outlines areas where government is essential, such as protecting citizens from enslavement, providing a just court system, and preventing corporately-owned nuclear proliferation, functions the private sector cannot objectively or fairly manage. Myth of Non-Aggression Principle: Leo challenges the libertarian idea of the non-aggression principle by asserting that enforcing moral norms requires a form of aggression, which is the role of the government to maintain order and protect citizens from exploitation. Critique of Stage Orange Political Views: Leo critiques the Spiral Dynamics stage Orange level of cognitive development, common among libertarians, for its naiveté regarding the nature of freedom, individualism, materialism, and the reality of collective problems in society. Responsibility in Materialist Philosophy: Leo stresses the flaws of a hyper-materialistic society, highlighting the need for more than just economic growth and profit maximization to address societal issues, and challenges the toxic masculinity that often accompanies materialist philosophy. Myopic Selfish Mentality: Leo criticizes the selfish attitude prevalent in society where individuals prioritize personal gain over the well-being of others and the environment, assuming they can insulate themselves from societal issues. Misunderstood Necessity of Bureaucracy: Leo challenges the negative perception of bureaucracy, arguing that high-quality bureaucracy is crucial for a country's development and is a distinguishing feature between first and third-world countries. Role of Government in History: Leo traces the evolution of government, explaining it arose from human advancements in agriculture and settlement, enabling the accumulation of resources which required protection. Brutality of the Animal Kingdom: He describes the animal kingdom as ruled by survival instincts without moral or ethical codes, and how humans, through the establishment of government, have curated a space to protect themselves from this brutality. The Birth of City-states: Leo depicts the rise of ancient city-states as defensive measures against the norm of conquering, looting, enslaving, and raping neighboring tribes, illustrating a move towards organization and protection. Freedom's Complexity and Brutality: Dispelling notions of freedom as unequivocally positive, Leo asserts that true unrestricted freedom in human societies would lead to chaos, emphasizing the government's role in moderating this by implementing rules for fairness and peace. Government's Role in Unification: He credits government with unifying diverse groups with different ethical beliefs and values by establishing common legal standards to maintain order and protect citizens against extreme violence and anarchy. Technology of Government: Leo presents government as the most remarkable human technology for achieving fairness and peace, a counterintuitive notion as it necessitates limiting absolute freedom in exchange for safety and collective advancement. Trade-offs and Benefits of Government: Discussing the balance between individual freedom and governmental control, Leo notes that while some freedoms are surrendered, governments enable the construction of society-improving infrastructure, paradoxically increasing overall freedom. Inevitable Role of Government in Modern Conveniences: Governmental infrastructure plays a crucial role in enabling modern conveniences like global travel, the internet, and space exploration. The liberties we enjoy today, such as instant global communication and international flights, would not be possible without stable governments laying the foundation for such advancements. Interplay of Individualism and Collectivism: Leo Gura talks about the necessity of balancing individual freedoms with the benefits of collectivism. Mankind thrives the most when it forms cohesive collectives on a large scale, unlike smaller animal groups that lack complex organization. Society and Holons: The concept that people are both individuals and parts of a larger whole, or 'holons,' is discussed. Just like the hand is part of the body and serves a purpose within a larger system, individuals must balance their autonomy with their roles within the greater collective of society. Problems with Extreme Individualism: Excessive individualism is criticized, especially within libertarian and Stage Orange thinking, for neglecting the interconnected nature of society. The balance between individual freedom and contributing to the collective is essential for a flourishing community and government. Government's Role in Group Regulation: Leo emphasizes that government is responsible not only for individuals' quality of life but also for regulating the various groups within society, such as religious denominations, corporations, and political factions. Politics as a Reflection of Identity and Survival: Politics is deeply intertwined with identity and survival. The negotiation of power and resources is influenced by the identities and collective egos present within society, with each group seeking to ensure its own survival. Recognition of Humankind’s Evolutionary Political Arc: Human political history shows an arc leading toward greater equality, consciousness, freedom, and unity. Governments play a central role in building a society that facilitates complexity and advanced human activities, like space exploration, which wouldn’t be possible without organized governance. Survival Dependent on Identity: Survival is tied to individual or collective identity, and politics is fundamentally a negotiation of individual and group survival strategies. Practically, politics is about moderating levels of selfishness among competing agendas to avoid extremity and devastation. Recurring Patterns of Division and Unity: Reality at a metaphysical level involves a cycle of dividing and reuniting. Humankind has historically divided into tribes and nations but has also seen periods of unification and cohesion. This natural process suggests cycles of unity following divisions are essential for sustainable progress. Central Role of Identity in Politics: Identity, whether individual or collective, is central to politics. It determines what needs to survive and thus becomes the subject of political negotiation, resulting in politics often being passionate, emotional, and irrational due to people's lack of consciousness about their own identity-driven behaviors. Managing Selfishness through Government: Government and politics serve to regulate the inherent selfishness in human nature by providing a system that moderates the distribution of power and resources, aiming to keep selfish behaviors in check to ensure a stable society. Selfishness and Karma: Selfish actions tend to provoke retaliation, creating a cycle of aggression. When one acts with extreme selfishness, it breeds resentment and potential violence in others, which in turn can lead to acts of revenge. Politics as a Negotiation of Power: Politics involves a negotiation over the distribution of power and resources. Government and politics are consistently concerned with this redistribution, contrary to the notion that it's exclusive to socialist agendas. Selfishness in Redistribution: Many individuals and corporations aim to maximize their own power and resources without concern for fairness or equality. This is evident in practices like lobbying, where entities influence government to benefit themselves at the expense of others. Reduction of Brutality and Oppression: The long-term goal of politics should be to reduce brutality and oppression, creating equitable systems that benefit society as a whole. Government should work to create a fairer distribution of resources and develop infrastructures that elevate societal freedom and complexity. Community and Evolution: Government and politics foster community and participate in the evolution of society by supporting large-scale cooperative events that build social cohesion. They also contribute to emergent higher levels of organizational complexity and consciousness. Consensus Building in Government: With diverse survival agendas, creating consensus in government is challenging. Government tries to satisfy the majority and prioritize decisions that are generally beneficial, which leads to culture wars, policy debates, and conflicts. Relativity of the Best Government: The concept of the 'best' government is misleading because it's relative; what benefits one group's survival might not benefit another's. Recognizing the absence of absolute right or wrong is key to understanding and addressing disagreements. Societal Inclusivity in Government: Unlike other organizations, government must be inclusive, catering to all societal members, even the most problematic ones. Instead of isolating problematic individuals, it's more effective to integrate and manage them with proper systems and infrastructure. Interconnectivity in Addressing Societal Problems: Dealing with the challenges of fringe members of society, like the poor or mentally ill, requires integrated and humane solutions. Helping and satisfying these individuals can prevent harmful behaviors that affect society.[BR] On Isolationist Policies: Government should not engage in isolationist policies such as walling off or confining troublesome elements, as they do not address the root problems and can ultimately lead to larger issues due to global interconnectivity. Complex Nature of Collectives: Governance is uniquely challenging because it must be inclusive and account for all types of people and multiple intersecting collectives, not just a select elite minority. Government and Worldviews: Governing is complicated by the vastly different worldviews and survival agendas of people, each constructing their reality from their mental constructs, making unification a complex task. Pragmatism in Governance: Government is a highly pragmatic endeavor dealing with vital life-and-death issues affecting billions, including famine, poverty, oppression, and violence, which go beyond theoretical politics. On Evolution of Government: Governments evolve through natural selection and trial and error, and unlike biological evolution, human society can consciously participate in shaping government, giving individuals significant responsibility in its design. Thought Experiment on Reincarnation: Suggests that choosing a fair and equal government becomes crucial if one is to reincarnate into various identities throughout the world, highlighting the importance of fairness and avoiding selfish biases. Ultimate Aim of Government: The primary aim of government should be to elevate consciousness and love as it transcends different identities and is a universal human desire, guiding the design of society away from materialism and toward these values. Materialism and Government Design: Points out that if governments are not designed to elevate consciousness and love, they default to fostering low consciousness values like materialism, greed, and division. Spirituality in Government: Proposes that a non-ideological form of spirituality should underpin government and society, avoiding scientism and materialism, and dismissing notions that this would lead to a theocracy. Evolutionary Perspective on Politics and Government: Leo Gura describes how understanding the origin of life and the universe as an infinitely expanding love fractal recontextualizes politics and government. He emphasizes that aligning with the force of evolution could lead to creating a beautiful society and reducing suffering. Conscious Politics vs Traditional Politics: Leo contrasts conscious politics with traditional politics, stating that the latter is about selfishness, not consciousness or love. He advocates for a holistic approach that includes raising consciousness and love universally, transcending human affairs and including all living beings. Integration of Individual and Collective Consciousness: He stresses the interconnectedness of individual and collective consciousness, promoting societal structures that allow people to meet their basic needs and thus pursue higher consciousness, benefiting not just the individuals but society as a whole. Vicious Cycle of Low Consciousness: Leo identifies a cycle where a low consciousness government creates low consciousness citizens who in turn support a low consciousness government. He suggests that establishing a high consciousness government can reverse this cycle, leading to positive societal development. End Self-Dealing in Government: Leo criticizes self-dealing and corruption within government, advocating for the end of these practices. He calls for responsible government that provides value for taxpayers' money and citizens who are politically aware and hold their government accountable. Materialism and the Role of Government: Leo criticizes materialism and highlights the need for government and society to be underpinned by spirituality focused on consciousness and love rather than profit. He warns against businessmen running governments like businesses as it can undermine efficacy and citizen well-being. Eliminating Corruption Instead of Government: Leo disputes libertarian claims that smaller government is better, arguing for good, effective, and responsible government instead. He insists combating corruption and self-dealing should be the focus, as government and taxation are inherent necessities. Accountability and Education in Politics: He urges voters to be educated and engaged in political processes. Active political participation and an informed citizenry are seen as the solutions to government problems, not privatization or undermining the government. Reforming Existing Government Structures: Leo calls for reforming and evolving current government structures rather than creating new ones, akin to the process of human evolution. He concludes by promising more practical insights and principles for conscious politics in the continuation of his talk. Flagrate

At the highest level all you have is beingness and abideness being stuck with yourself forever in an everlasting presence. Being extremely conscious abiding in your own vibration and love that you can't share with anyone but only yourself. The ego is created because the seeking never stops, so you create a play in your own imagination After having had a taste of different dreams and how good it actually is even when you know you lie to yourself you still prefer being stuck in a dream. Guru's that claimed being released from the cycle of reincarnation are all not conscious enough, you will always reincarnate to different dreams. Your unlimited no time presence is not experienced as the life is here, you can't really abide in yourself forever as there is only presence. Your stay at the highest level will be short

Over the last months I have sunk deeper into mysticism and awareness. Just recently I had an abstract experience with 5MeoDMT last week where everything I was aware of dissolved into one primordial liquid, a field of endless possibilities and manifestations, it was both scary and majestic. I stumbled upon the Seth material the other day, a woman who learned to channel a trans-dimensional intelligence who she calls "Seth",, I am not yet entirely sure if thats really possible but clearly the lady knows her shit and its been a fascinating read so far. Tho they place a huge emphasis on the idea of reincarnation and a persistent individual soul. The way I see it, our bodies and experiences share within the same soul, the one god that makes up all of reality. For me, to begin to conceptualize the idea of individual souls would bring conflicts of separation from the one source of it all. What are your thoughts?

David Spangler, Subtle Worlds - An Explorer's Field Notes. Chapter 8: Soul Jürgen Ziewe, Multidimensional Man. A Voyage of Discovery into the Heart of Creation. Chapter The final journey, 25th August 1980 Chris Bache, LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven. Chapter Reincarnation and the Soul and more on request. Soul. Imagined and appearing of course. Like everything else. Therefor, as real or unreal as anything else... Or, in other words, as real or unreal as ones car. Yet, a little more durable, like in... immortal, surviving death. From life to life, dream to dream. And more important. The epic game of forgetting and finding, played by Infinite Consciousness/Being/Reality... Souls... very much worth taking care of on this relative level of ours. Especially when venturing to far out realms, where no man has gone before.... hic sunt dracones. Selling Soul-Eddies in the Water by the River PS: And like Inliytened1 wrote above: A concept. From the perspective of Absolute Truth. Like every other manifestatation, as real or unreal as anything else. As long as this concept is not seen through, no realization of Absolute Reality. Yet, the (relative) concept 2+2=4 holds more (relative) truth than 2+2=5. Same with the concept soul: relative, appearing truth, not Absolute Truth. But since Absolute Truth contains Relative Truth, and as we all know, relative (un-) Truth can make a lot of trouble.... "Although my view is higher than the sky (Absolute Truth), my respect for the cause and effect of actions is as fine as grains of flour (relative truth)".

Oh shit ..I wish that death is like eternal sleep . No reincarnation no resurrection no nothing. Just endless Zzzz 😴

"Enlightenment is a simple realization..." *spends the rest of the video talking about reincarnation, Sadghuru, Buddhism, and then never addresses what enlightenment is* Ok, just scrolled through his channel, and literally all his videos are either Sadghuru, Buddhism, or reincarnation. So yeah summed it up pretty well there lmao.

The Insights are not new, they will naturally come to someone when their Awareness is raised and more intense as time goes on, how we express it may differ but in the end we are all saying the samethings in a general sense, little details maybe not the same but mostly insights are similar to others in the past... Life Insights: 1) Pain is real, Suffering is a choice, it happens mostly mentally, we over think, become too Intellectual and everything starts to offend You because of highly addicted population to ideologies, concepts and teachings that are outside of themselves, learned from data input via the 5 senes... 2) Successful ppl suffering just as much as Poor or Deprived ppl, maybe more, because once You have all the Money, Power, Fame, Admiration, Success, etc, and You still feel empty, then what else is there too do but get addicted to drugs/booze, gambling, sex, or some sort of death wish that requires you to do dangerous things to feel alive (think Tom Cruise)... 3) Technology or anything that we have invented for ourselves is mostly there as a convenience, not as a source or reason for Life to go on..nothing really new has been invented just things that are extensions of what we already have available to us naturally... 4) Reincarnation is True, many examples of kids knowing areas of geography, or have skills within them that would be impossible to learn at their age, Karma or result of residual actions travel from embodied life to emboded life, until one has reached a level of Awareness to move on to another plane..

Hey All, Again, this is not my personal experience but rather intellectual understanding based on my reading of trip reports and Leo's/Other Guru's videos. Here it is. Leo has been reincarnated. Leo and all those who have had "breakthroughs" on DMT/SHROOM/LSD etc trips. How so? Leo, as well as other people's trip reports I have read say this: "I died." That is how they see the truth. upon their death. Call it ego-death or whatever, but as Leo has said this many times - ego-death vs our normal definition of physical death, are really the same thing. Ego-Death isn't anything less than the "REAL-Physical" death of a person. Now where is the "reincarnation"? Many trip reports I have read, people say that they spent an eternity in that state of one-ness, of eternal bliss or whatnot etc before "returning" back to their bodies. Now people say this also, that when we are born, we "choose" to incarnate in a certain body, knowing all well what we intend to do in that lifetime of the person we are being born as. So what we can say is this, when people who just take these substances have a breakthrough experience where they have an ego-death - they then "choose" to come back to this reality. They come back fresh from having downloaded all those insights in their heads. All the questions answered. and with that knowledge etched in their subconsious, they are usually in that bliss-full state for the 1st few days / weeks after that breakthrough trip. Slowly they integrate back to the earthly life (those who are not on the spirtual path more quickly than the one who has taken the subtance knowing about this) so basically, their previous self before the trip is literally dead. They come back as the "new" version/life of themselves. and this is no different than reincarnation. unsure what mechanism is upon physical-death where the body dies and there isn't anything to return back to... then you maybe "choose" or incarnate near the timeline of ur death... except when we incarte after physical-death, this is done in baby-infant form. where all those insights that we know of, and even the memory of that place, is all lost. even in a fully grown adult state, the experince is barely recalled and whatever is recalled is also said to be a mere pointer and not even 1% of what was witnessed. i feel like this maybe all over the place but yeah, my insight about this is in here somewhere i hope

Self love. Loving everything for what it is and what you are. This is what all life is returning to. Cultivate a spiritual practice that you do daily. Whatever that is, if you need examples: ex Third Eye Work, Meditation, Astral Travel, Past life regression, A form of Yoga, Taoism with Mantak Chia, Spiritual Ninja practicing ninjitsu etc. Whatever it is, its the ritual and selfess dedication to it that's important. Listen to some of the people Leo gives as examples in this thread: Quote: Shunyamurti, Thomas Campbell, Yoda, David Hawkins, Ken Wilber, Shinzen Young, Deepak Chopra, Stan Grof, Osho, Mooji, Ramaji, Rupert Spira, Eckhart Tolle’s A New Earth, Yogananda, Martin Ball, Terence McKenna, Carl Jung, Sri Aurobindo, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, Ervin Laszlo, David Loy, Alan Watts, Wim Hof, Matt Kahn, Dalai Lama, Sasha Shulgin, yoga, holotropic breathwork, The Holographic Universe, Akashic Records, noosphere, opening the 3rd eye, pineal gland, out of body experiences, samadhi experiences, siddhis, paranormal abilities, clairvoyants, channels, mediums, Bashar, Aleister Crowley, Rudolf Steiner, alternative healing systems, Maya, psychedelics, 5-MeO-DMT, StarTrek: The Q, Rupert Sheldrake’s morphogenetic fields, Dean Radin’s paranormal research, Gandhi’s ideas of pluralistic harmony, Gaia, biocentrism, Monroe Institute, Esalen Institute, transpersonal psychology, Jung’s collective unconscious, quantum field theory, sacred geometry, reincarnation, opening chakras, saints, sages, mystics, prophets, etc. Listening is enough, spending time with them is better. For me it was Sevan Bomar, Almine, Teal Swan, Mooji, Sadhguru, Daniel Winter, Marko Rodin, Carl sagen, Carl jung, Alan watts, Leo Gura, Don Miguel Ruiz etc. I've had the benefit and privilege of listening to some of the finest minds on this planet, have you? No, then go do so! *Sorry this double posted before I was ready, nice case of duality

There's a reason why in Gnostic thought and circles that the Demiurge is considered to be an evil entity or at least and misguided, foolish figure. Imagine, if you will, you were given the chance to create or manipulate physical reality from scratch and you can fulfill your wildest dreams and desires but spiritually speaking you were still a young and naïve child in your development. If you had no consideration for anyone else, any other lifeform or for the pre-existing rules in this reality of yours, it would end very, very badly for you and everyone else. You wouldn't know the can of worms you could be opening. A lot of the early Christians and Gnostics believed this and considering what time period they came from, it makes sense. On a side note, there's also a reason why Jains believe that when once you escape the cycle of death and reincarnation, you enter a realm where the most enlightened beings just sit, chill and watch Creation from afar, without ever needing to manipulate or touch up reality to their wishes. Think about it this this way, we're limited with our bodies and we can only manipulate reality with our 8 fingers and 2 thumbs. But with those fingers and thumbs, we've (humanity as a whole), has created some truly amazing and exceptional things. This simple comic could have only been drawn by a human being, but like what Leo said about transhumanism: Man becomes God. A cat has got your Pipe: (a relevant video in line with this thread I promise you)

@Circassia To Rostov We have a natural fear of pain, especially this sort of pain that is intentionally inflected upon someone by another. Why does it happen? Because the Torturer is not feeling any sort of connection to the one being tortured, simple as that, most of the ppl of the world live like this but are not at that sort of extreme level of disconnect. Belief can be dangerous, but we are on a internet forum where all we have is logic, intellect to communicate with, so I do believe in reincarnation, there's lots of evidence of it, but Enlightenment is the end of the cycle of birth/death on a physical level for sure. There may be other realms above this, that is all debateable, we are here now in this realm and have to make the best of it. Don't live via belief or past/future memory/imagination POV, just be in the Now, you can learn and become wise from the past and plan for the future, but if You are in fear that means You living in the future, which does not yet exist, so that in itself is a form of insanity. just find some method or practices, stay with it, get to a point of Peace within Yourself, don't bother with notions of Enlightenment, Reincarnation and such things, just be at Peace with what is, then go on from there naturally...

With the issue of reincarnation we imagine a similar experience, with subject, object and development, but who knows how things can be. everything is absolutely enigmatic, the depth of reality is unfathomable.

@Circassia To Rostov All is one. You are god and you are everybody else. It is the monad, brahman, and Dao. Separation is an illusion. The duality reduces to the monad. You may get reincarnated and go back in time and be your current sibling, friend, coworker, parent, etc. So they are you at this very moment. This applies to all of history. Another thought is maybe in some other dimension we actually volunteer for experiences like torture. It may be the most sought after reincarnation. Another thought is dualism and the two black and white fishes going around in the yin yang symbol. So after infinite reincarnations, 50% of them are bad and 50% of them good. It all averages out. The torture will be balanced by euphoria and bliss. Stop thinking and live. Just be. You are mentally masturbating yourself and avoiding the real work. All is distraction. The Hindu Maya. Follow the Hindu Lila. Good luck!

If it is assumed that the side of the spectrum you mention is possible concerning reincarnation/other dreams (the bad ones), why not contemplate the other side of the spectrum (the good ones)? Jürgen Ziewe, Multidimensional Man Jürgen Ziewe, Vistas of Infinity Jürgen Ziewe, Elysium Unveiled (breathtakingly beautiful) Robert Monroes books David Spandler, Subtle Worlds. An Explorer’s Field Note William Buhlman, all books Grof, Books of the Dead Manuals for Living and Dying Grof,Beyond Death.The Gates of Consciousness More on request Seriously, don't destroy your life with this horror-line of thinking and going down that rabbit-hole. Consider especially taking a look at Jürgen Ziewes Elysium Unveiled. There are a few horror-scenarios inside (as with the other books also), but the rest is of breathtaking beauty. If the possibility of other dreams in Infinite Consciousness/reincarnation is maintained, why not let the beautiful geenie (video above) also out of the bottle? Of course, none of that has to be believed for realizing what Reality really is. The nature of Reality/Infinite Consciousness is always right here right now, covered by clouds of illusory separation/ignorance. And what You really are can never be harmed (no moving parts). Selling Water by the River

Two more Ideas! What if I'm imagining psychedelics as an excuse to allow myself to disrupt reality without having to realize it's an illusion! I've had this fear since I was a kid. That it's all deterministic and I shouldn't learn about movie making, game programming, art etc. because that would shatter the illusion and I wouldn't be able to look at these things the same way again. If I realized myself as completely conscious consciousness, there'd be nothing to hide from myself, there'd be no other, no one to talk to, no thing to talk about. Nothing to explore, nothing to imagine since I'd already know it. I can look at the stars and find them beautiful, I can create a fractal dimension and go explore it. But if I'm 100% conscious and there is no subconsciousness, then I'd know it during creating it. But I want to explore reality forever, watch new things unfold and have adventures. Breathe in the air and sunbathe on a meadow as a separate form. Or can I do all of that regardless? I don't know the mechanics I use to make myself unconscious, it's very tricky and that's on purpose! Maybe I was suffering for eternity figuring out what dream to dream and how to make myself unconscious to the fact its a dream. I don't know what is the right thing to do anymore. Maybe that's what all the NDEs are about, reincarnation too, to fulfill the desires god could not in one lifetime? And to get a self-imagined astral afterlife? Or maybe that's the default in god form, doing everything one wants to do but knowing its all deterministic? Or does god not mind that? I am here, maybe that's why?

At least I realize what reality is in some specific moments, moments of openness, but in the normal state I am aware of the suffering that human life includes. In fact, suffering is an essential part of being human, and its level can be very high. There is a very common human suffering in human reality that none of us here have experienced, which is real violence. That them enslave your daughters and torture you and then crucify you, those human things that none of us want. As you have said, they are emergences that occur in dual reality, but it is difficult to understand the level and degree of what this moment can be, and the purpose of those emergences. Well, the purpose seems to be evolution, reincarnation, etc, but who knows if it's the case. I would say that yes, every experience of real suffering makes the human deeper. Seems that everything tends to that, deeper conciousness , but who knows

The Mystic Gurdjieff had a rather sobering view in regard to one having a soul. This aphorism condenses. His view. Blessed is he who has a soul, blessed is he who has none, but woe and grief to him who has it in embryo. He claimed that humans on Earth are here to develop and complete their soul. That for the most part we are born with only a starter kit of a soul. One of the main tasks in this view is to purify the emotional center. This requires not being reactive towards whoever or whatever pushes our buttons. We are responsible for our negativity regardless of what happens. The task is to fully feel whatever we experience but not bitch, complain, or verbally attack another human or animal. I continually fail at this task..... In regard to this idea, Arnold Keyserling said an interesting thing one time. If a person could go for two years (the orbit of Mars) without reacting in anger. They would never feel a negative emotion towards anyone for the rest of their life. This condition might correlate with the state of consciousness called Christ Consciousness or nondual consciousness as described by Jim Marion, Ken Wilber and others. Gurdjieff's work is sometimes referred to as the Fourth Way or Esoteric Christianity. I heard a Teacher of the Fourth Way once say that it is for losers. One must be a complete loser and totally disillusioned with life to be ready to enter The Fourth Way... Seeing and experiencing the uselessness of materialism and other worldviews, There are different lineages which vary in their view of the Teaching. Gurdjieff taught reincarnation in a way and said if a soul doesn't reach purification and completion within the time frame of the life of a Solar system. The partial soul will disintegrate. This is all rather depressing, isn't it,,,,,?

When you are ignorant of your nature as God it's not like you seize to be God. However, God is still deluding itself in the form of you as a human ego. Due to this, it would reform itself after physical death. God could reform itself as anything, depends on a lot of factors. Reincarnation is true and so is heaven and hell. Your 'soul' is simply this all pervading conciousness. Your soul is paradoxically entirely impersonal.

I had a psychedelic trip where there was this sense of rebirth and death over and over again in different lifes. I took 400 ug of 1P-LSD and locked myself in a completely dark room for about 6 hours and did nothing. Honestly I have very blur memories of the experience because it was a lot of shit to process. But there was this recurring theme of rebirth and death over and over again, also my personal identify took some radical shifts to the point I wasn't even myself anymore. At some points I thought I was insane to the point of no return. This was about a month and a half ago and I still don't know what to make of it. Anyway, any thoughts on reincarnation or any useful sources to investigate more about this topic? or are this just traps of the mind. Thanks for any reply!

Ah, formlessness. In that case, sure. Reincarnation would be the case where you don't return to the original dream you exited. Nevertheless, "enlightenment" is often conceptualized as when you retain the realization of the formless while still being immersed in the "formful" (relative reality), i.e. being lucid in the dream. Awakening to formlessness is a taste of this realization; pure lucidity, but without the contents of the dream. The former (enlightenment) is of course much "harder" than the latter (awakening).

Reincarnation.

What is a soul? How to best define it? Does a soul have a personality of its own? What I mean here is, just like people are different at the level of their mind dew to their learning and personality, are two people different at the level of their soul dew to certain traits? What is a spirit? The difference between soul, spirit and pure consciousness. Why are we born? Is reincarnation true? If so, why are we reincarnated again and again? Do moksha ( end of reincarnation ) a true? Thank You.

You can not stay in God mode no longer than three to four hours. And there is no way you could ever function in everyday life. When I came back down from some of my biggest trips. Perhaps for 6 to 9 months, I had very few attachments and biases left. But there is no way you could live in this dream without any. Even if you went into a cave for a year or however long. You still would have attachments to this dream and I personally or most probably after some time of contemplation and deliberating would go what the fck am I doing what was I thinking? And yes there are states of consciousness or God mode or to say God realizing God again where you have no biases and no attachments. You become infinitely self-aware you become pure infinite love existence itself. This is not a perception as you may think it is. You don't perceive anything you become it. Infinite love is not a perception or an experience idea or a supposition whatever you might think it is. You are the experience the perception. Don't you know you are the truth? But you must also understand that you can not live in this dream with no attachments or beliefs etc. Of course, you can get rid of certain things and self-limiting beliefs and become less biased and more selfless up to a point. I don't watch the news anymore or I have not watched TV for 15 years and I stopped using mobiles about 3 years ago, not because I deemed them to cause cancer or whatever the beliefs are these days. But that's me it does not mean you have to do any of these things. Everyone wants to awaken I am trying to go back into the dream. And it may take months even years to ground yourself again but with that said you can never fully come back to the dream. If you have very, very strong core values beliefs, and ethics on what you believe to be right from wrong which most of us do or have built up over the years. If you are not careful it could actually send you to the point of insanity for a time if it has not already occurred from just waking up on a fairly high dose of whatever your preferred imaginary psychedelic of choice is. In the end, the choice is yours, yours alone. “When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.” JIMI HENDRIX When we no longer know what to do we have come to our real work, and when we no longer know which way to go we have come to our real journey. Wendell Berry. All Psychedelics and meditations are part of the dream all are imaginary. Reincarnation is also imaginary and is part of the dream. How can you be reincarnated if you were never alive, or born to begin with? You keep creating ideas and beliefs to explain more concepts within concepts. Kind of obvious is it not? To describe or explain what you are in words is in a way it is an insult. How can one articulate the indescribable? You can not be translated into words. How do you actualize the infinite into words? It's not even what one thinks it is. Though it does add humor to the dream. No, you don't need to suffer to awaken. And no it is not all about how you have to suffer all your life. This is just a belief that you have unwisely accepted just like all the self-limiting ideas you have picked up along the journey.

Since we are on a self-improvement forum, it would be great if the people here who consistently support Israel tried to see the situation from the Hamas/Palestinian perspective, and vice versa. Remember guys, your alliegience to your team is "only" due to your culture, upbringing, life experiences, etc... This is what forms your perspective, but consider that You would have a vastly different view if your circumstances were different. You are not this accumulated web of beliefs and biases. You are God. Imagine this: currently You are biased against Israel/Palestine, but next life You incarnate on the other team and shit on the beliefs You hold right now. Do You see how stupid this is? Rise above it. (The reincarnation talk & assumption of shared reality which one is always born into is purely for the thought experiment.) Try to see all of this more holistically. For your own sake. When You argue reinforcing your own biases, You are going deeper and deeper into this web of beliefs of yours, further deceiving yourself and disconnecting from the truth. Make sure You don't deceive yourselves so much You are lost. It'd be a shame.