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You are space, and now you appear to be the image superimposed on space. Now you identify with the image, but prior to consciousness you were not the space, really, nor the image? The reason I say you were not the space is because we can talk about it, so you have a concept of space, and again, as long as you have a concept of space, it's not that. The only way you can find out is by not saying anything, by catching yourself between thoughts. When you have a thought, and you're trying to figure out what it is, and when the thought stops, before your next thought enters, that's it. The space between thoughts is what we are talking about. So the thing to remember again is as long as you can talk about it, as long as you can describe it, as long as you can argue about it, as long as you stick up for your rights and say it's this or it's that, you're wrong. You're not really wrong, you're just on the wrong track, because if you were wrong, then something is right, and nothing is right, so there's nothing wrong. It goes beyond duality concepts. That's why I tell you to spend so much time alone, when you don't watch television, and you don't listen to the phone ring, where you can cut yourself off from the radio. Just sit and be your Self. Then you will experience pure being. For as long as you search, you'll never find it. After all, ask what you are searching for. You are searching for something that you already are. That's why you can never find it. If you were not that, then you would search, but you're already that, so searching becomes fruitless. And what is that? That is the space between your atoms. Every sentient and insentient thing is composed of trillions of atoms, but the space in between is consciousness. Again, we use the word consciousness for want of a better word. (tape break as Robert continues) But again, we have to function in the world, so we don't walk around trying to be smart. Instead what we do is function in the world as ourselves. Be your Self. If you are your Self, then you're safe. In other words, you're not trying to be anything. Just be your Self. What does it mean to be your Self? To live spontaneously. Most of us live from the past, as you know, and then we worry what we're going to do in the future. If you learn to forget about the past and the future, you're safe. When you live spontaneously you have no time to think, and that's when you become the witness. For thoughts are simply about the past and the future. True? When you learn to act in the moment, when you're acting in the moment you can't think because you're acting. Therefore, your thoughts are only on what you're doing and when that stops there are no thoughts, and you go on to the next thing. But you do not try to analyze the thing at all, whether everything will work out, whether it’s good or bad, whether you're making something out of it or not, whether it's in your favor or against you, all that's got to go. I received a call from a lady in Santa Cruse the other day and she started to tell me about her marital problems, so I stopped her. I told her I didn't want to hear anything about any marital problems. Does she know who she is? That's all I care about. If she knows who she is, then she goes beyond marital problems. She goes beyond concepts, longings, wants, desires. She'll be safe. For once you lift yourself up nothing can touch you again. The world no longer has any power over you. The world only has power over you when you identify yourself as a body. If you identify yourself as a body, then the world becomes real, objects become real, situations become real, the universe becomes real, God becomes real, everything becomes real and you live in duality. So one day you're suffering, the next day you're happy. Happiness leads to suffering, suffering leads to happiness. Of course, that's human happiness I'm talking about, human suffering. But as soon as you learn to go beyond that, and again that happens by living spontaneously, all suffering ceases. After all, for who is the suffering? For the one who identifies with the thoughts. {…} As an example, somebody gets fired from their job. They start to worry about that and this leads to worrying about the future, because when you worry about the past, getting fired, you're going to start worrying and thinking, "How will I pay my rent next month? How will I buy food?" And the mind loves that. It starts feeding you more. Pretty soon you imagine yourself evicted from your house and you see yourself in the welfare lines, and you see yourself become a homeless person, and sure enough you do, because that's what you believe. That's where your mind is leading you. As long as you feel you have a mind, it becomes very, very powerful. Then you can say that, "Thoughts are things," for your thoughts will materialize in this world of effects, that which you believe is real. Subsequently, if you start worrying about your job, being terminated, and you start worrying about food, and you start worrying about evictions and all that stuff, you're really saying to yourself mentally, "That's what I want to happen," and you always get what you want. You've got to watch yourself. The secret is not to change your thoughts, but to get rid of your thoughts completely. We're not trying to change negative thoughts to positive thoughts, for all positive thoughts lead to negative thoughts, negative thoughts lead to positive thoughts, that's duality. We're trying to transcend the whole bowl of wax, to go beyond, and that's what happens when you live spontaneously, it happens by itself. Living spontaneously is a meditation. Do not concern yourself with the fruits of your efforts. Everything will take care of yourself, of itself. In other words, what I mean by that is, if you're in a job for twenty-four years, do not concern yourself if you get terminated or you don't, that's not the point. The point is who do you think you are? Do you believe that you're that frail human being that has been terminated, or that frail person who has lots of marital problems, or that frail person who doesn't know if he's going to die or live? Forget about all these things, go beyond it. Identify with the absolute awareness. Identify with the total reality which you really are. You do not identify with those things by affirming them. You identify with those things by what? By silence. You see the difference? There are many schools that tell you, change the negative into a positive, but that's based on the world of relativity. You'll have to experience both, and there will be no end to it. But when there's silence in the mind, that means you get rid of all concepts, of all desires, of all needs, of all wants, of all hurts. You become oblivious to everything. Then the real Self begins to take over, which is you, and you'll automatically do, or gravitate to, the place where you have to be. It will all happen by itself, but don't think of that. Think of nothing. Learn how to quiet your mind. Learn how to make your mind quiescent like a motionless lake. A motionless lake can attract, or image, reflect, the sun, the stars, the moon, trees, grass. A lake that is noisy cannot reflect anything. So, when you learn to quiet your mind you reflect your Self, and your Self is always harmony, always bliss, always sat-chit-ananda, always the absolute reality, always absolute oneness. That's your real Self. That's who you really are. It's all up to you. What do you do with your life everyday? How do you live your life? This doesn't mean that you have to sit home and meditate all day long. It means you can go about your business. You can work. You cannot work. You can go to a movie. You can watch TV. You can do whatever you like, but never identify with the object! Never identify with what the body is doing. Let the body do whatever it came here to do, but you keep the mind and yourself on your heart, on the light, on consciousness. Quiet your mind any way you want, whatever method you use. Become the witness to your thoughts. Use atma-vichara, self-inquiry, whatever method you have to use, do it, but do it all day long, that's the secret. Not just when you come here, not just an hour a day, but all during the day. So how would you handle it if you go to your work and they terminate you? Instead of worrying, you would ask the question to yourself, "To whom is this happening? Who's going through this experience? I am." Hold onto the I with all your might. Follow the I to the source. Look at the I as a thread that seems to be connected from the source to what you're thinking about. And all of your thoughts are attached to the that thread, to the I thread. All of your fears, all of your frustrations, all of your desires, everything is attached to the I thread, and as you hold on to it tight; you follow it, follow it into the heart center. Then it will just seem to disappear. The reason I say it will seem to disappear is because it never existed to begin with, (laughs) so it appears to disappear. But once that happens you're free and you will not be disturbed by any mortal condition, and you will be happy. But when I say you'll be happy I am not referring to human happiness. I am referring to happy-happy, happy hour, really happy, for no reason. Again because your true nature is happiness, your true nature is bliss. When you get rid of the other stuff your true nature shines forth effortlessly. That's why we call this the pathless path, because there's really no path. There's only a quietness of the mind, following the I to the source. Then all of a sudden you become omnipresence, you become omniscience, you become omnipotence. Then you can say, "I am That I am," but there will be nobody left to say anything really. You will just bask in the sunshine of your love, of your happiness, of your bliss. {…} -- Robert Adams, T20: Before I Am

Listen carefully from 14min. He says those who suffer will only seek pleasure nothing more. Because people think that enlightenment is the end of suffering. That's why they are chasing enlightenment because they don't realize all they actually want is happyness not dissolusion. The only reason you're thinking about being egoless is because you think after you become egoless you'll be happy. So that's why you think enlightenment is the solution. But all you want is to be happy not dead. It's because you imagine that once you're egoless everything will be perfect in your life. And you're using pain to increase the motivation to get to that egoless state which is fine. But egoless state is not Mukti, it's not enlightenment, it's not dissolusion. It's just a pleasent, fancy experience. All you want is a pleasent experience. But when Sadhguru says suffering will not seek. What he means is that someone who's suffering will not think about dissolusion. Mukti or dissolusion means you trying cease to exist. you're trying to end yourself. To end your life. To escape life and death. To finish all your karma. Only a happy person who experienced this life totally can think of dissolusion. Because for him life pleasures doesn't matter anymore, for a happy person being happy is not a big deal. For someone who's deprived of happyness all his life, for him the highest goal is to be happy. But for someone who's in bliss and exstacy everyday, for him the highest goal is to go cease to exist or beyond life and death, or dissolving all his karma and becoming a limitless existence. You would understand this if you knew what Mukti means. It's much more then a fancy nondual experience.

The very mechanism of objective existence is self delusion. It is not the breath and food that is keeping this body alive but self delusion. Objective consciousness is the biggest wanker of all time. It just can't get enough of sucking up its own delusion. Every trace of movement, relativity, objectivity, separation, unhappiness is self delusion. So are the ideas of stillness, absolute, unity, love, bliss, enlightenment and all that crap along with their evil cousins. You want proof? Well every night you create your personal world so that you can delude yourself on all levels possible. What makes ye think you aren't doing exactly that right now? This extraordinary impossible feat of simultaneous creation and self imposed delusion of regarding it's own imagination as real, also known as Maya, it is all that seems to be and yet it can't be found.

The ego loves the "ignorance is bliss" tactic. if you take a closer look, you may observe that the ego is really saying "selective ignorance is bliss". That is, being ignorant of "non-blissful" things. Yet, how does that usually turn out for the ego? Rather than selective ignorance of that which the ego finds nonblissful, what might full ignorance look like? What if you dissolved everything you know about yourself, what's right and wrong, how things should be, all meaning. That is true ignorance. Emptiness. What might that be like? Perhaps a flavor of bliss the ego cannot comprehend - because of course it would comprehend nothing - since it is truly ignorant.

Everything that I have figured out I accept. There's nothing to justify. If you have something against ignorance, look into that. It can definitely be bliss though for the ego.

I'm only three days into Kriya, and I must say I'm feeling very different. Gaps between thoughts are growing longer, and I can also use the mind more effectively when I'm being creative or have to work something out intellectually. But most importantly, I've started actually sensing that I'm part of something bigger on an experiential level. This morning I've experienced a profound sense of joy and bliss, which is hard to put into words. For me, it's a new kind of feeling. The happiest thing is that it seems to have been lasting for about an hour now, and there has been no mental chatter to back it up whatsoever. I stick with a 15-minute practice two times per day. It's definitely different from usual meditation. Been meditating regularly for about three months before I got into Kriya, inspired by Leo's latest video. Is there much sense in combining Kriya with mindfulness meditation? Excited to find out what comes next.

@Shin it is like everything has dried up but repressed emotions come to the surface and wreak havoc with day to day life. Huge swings between bliss and boredom, insights come fast but difficult to process and everything seems unreal. It feels like reality is unravelling to make way for something else; to me anyway

That are perferably enlightened that live an hour north of NYC? / CT ??? (Not sure if you need to be enlightened to even be a yogi ??) Kind of a random question, I had my 1st kundalini awakening about 6 months ago & have read books on the matter, but still have questions on the topic. My symptoms: -Overly sensitve to lights & sounds. -3rd eye pulsating all day long -one random crying outburst (I never cry) -Kryas I believe they are called, shaking pulsating while mediating , eyes twitching -spinning while mediating (not to much out there on this topic) -energy shot out of my crown chakra during a 2 hour long sds sit -sometimes insomnia -might sound stupid, but I feel smarter then ever or that I can see the future. -feelings of bliss or bad anxiety (extremes of both) -feelings of pins & needles when I try to sleep almost like anxiety but not really. -yes I know don't fight the energy ? - yes I've bought Leo's kundalini books on his list.. -The energy is scary, whoever says it's "just energy" is full of shit, unless you've felt it you haven't a clue. -having deeper insights, separating from the ego & looking at it in an observational point of view.

@ajasatya @Shin I can't there is no image, its all imaginary aswell. i know, it is. its still me making distinctions, maybe i'm just scared because its going to radically change my life. ^^ having said all this, i've just gone back into identification. A life without judgement sounds scarier than i initially thought it was. freeing yes, i wouldn't have control , i won't be in the same reality as others in speech and thinking wise, hardly have as many thoughts, i think the thing i'm most scared about is that it will be like a trance like state (bliss) as kaorke says missing a piece of the puzzle and being locked in a trance like false state

In terms of awakening, there is no other reason rather than joy. There is bliss/nirvana which is just joy. There is understanding of truth (which in the end) is just the joy you derive from understanding truth. There is the ego death or peace or quieting of the mind which is just joy from that. Sometimes people stop temporary joy for long term joy. Quitting fapping, eating diseases and addictions for the greater long term joy of health. Even whoever post the next comment will post for joy. Maybe the joy of ego, joy of compassion, joy of expressing yourself. Why do people say that you must have another reason for awakening other than joy when literally every other reason (understanding of reality) is joy? It seems to be an insight that everything you do is for joy and maximizing it. Hedonism?

To further this discussion consider this quote from the movie matrix by cypher who asked the machines to be plugged into the matrix again. "You know.. I know this steak doesn't exist. I know when I put it in my mouth; the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy, and delicious. After nine years.. you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss."

Yes it is! I'm awe-inspired again and again how things come into pieces from all angles in this direct path. Surrender(Real bhakti yoga) and Self-Inquiry(Jnana yoga) are 2 names for the same 'practice' of being. The Prema (Dissolution into absolute love) you get from surrender and the Jnana(self-realization) you get from self-inquiry are one and the same outcome. Self-inquiry chases that knowledge with which everything is known to the Source. That Jnana itself is refracted through the ego as subject-object dualistic knowledge. While Bhakti is unconditional surrender that takes us to the Source of that unquestionable love we have for our own self, the bliss of our Self. That Love itself is similarly refracted through the ego as our constant sense of lack and subsequent search of happiness outside of ourselves.

felt alot peace and somewhat bliss this whole week because i was being, but i've felt more disconnected as if i'm knowing reality but i wasn't knowing i was just being. even though i was being, i wasn't able to sustain highest consciousness level and going deeper into being (unknowing) so ironic, that i feel like its an ego backlash or should i say blissful backlash- what i'm trying to say was i felt closer to reality not knowing and with constant change, than having routine and knowing. has anybody else ever felt this after a week of peacefulness?

Yes the world is meaningless but by applying a negative connoltation to that fact, is a meaning that you're projecting onto meaningless ; you're personally assigning a negative value to meaninglessness when meaningless just means meaningless -- it's not positive or negative. I think it's worth being grateful for having seen through the illusion. Now you're free to live however you like. You don't have to suffer and take it as real like everyone else. Isn't that what you've always desired anyway? To do whatever you want with nothing stopping you? You can still play the game with the knowing in the back of you're mind that it's just a game. Video games aren't "real" but people still love to play them. You can create your character and play but know it's just that (a play). And hey, if you don't want to play the game, that's an option too. There are some nice quiet mountains in warm countries with spectacular views that would be most suited for just basking in the bliss of God. And you are God.

Sounds like you have a very superficial view on what enlightenment actually is. The whole text sounds like you are suggesting that people on a spiritual path are getting enlightened on a daily basis. But that's not the case. It is an extrem rare phenomena if what Buddha taught is real. Once you have realised Anatman (no self) you can still live up to seven lifetimes until you reach Nirvana. According to Buddha Shakyamuni Nirvana is the end of all suffering and everlasting bliss. He never talked about "ego". That's a term used by western esoteric authors. It is not a term rooted in south, east or southeast-asian spirituality. You shouldn't mix that up. The Buddha taught dependent arising after his enlightenment. Can't say anything about 5 and 6 but those statements sounds wrong as well.

1) Enlightenment is the end of all suffering Unfortunately no, enlightenment definitely lowers suffering and lead to a much better moment to moment experience of being you, but doesn't eliminate all suffering, physical pain is one example. Even if that would be possible, it wouldn't be a functional state. 2) Enlightenment is permanent ego death Ego is still functioning after enlightenment. Ego is something that allows me to write these words. After enlightenment, there is a process that unfolds for years and it does change structures of the ego. 3) Enlightenment is some kind of everlasting bliss It feels rather like metta equanimity than bliss 4) Enlightenment shows a person true nature of reality, God or that it would 100% convince a skeptic materialist to believe in non-duality I can guarantee you that there are many people having persistent non symbolic expierience who are still skeptic materialist paradigm believers. In terms of convincing power, full unity experience on psychedelics is much stronger, yet there are still people who refuse to self validate what they believe to be the Truth. 5) Enlighten person never hurts other people, always have good morals, have great personality etc. Enlightenment doesn't touch personality disorders antisocial, avoidant etc... 6) Enlighten person never experience anxiety and/or is fearless Well, obviously people still have working amygdala after enlightenment. Also getting rid of fear/anxiety would create some serious problems.

i have done ket more than 600 time , after i've experience approaximately 400+ i got a full blown kundalini effect, so what it does is to suck me into a mystical realm what i call it the "kundalini k hole" and i am fully consciousness observing everything about it, my third eye and crown chakra pulsing sensation like some object struck inside And then i started to feel chi energy depart from my body spinning around me,there are some interesting part of kundalini k hole, i have seen humanoid doing things like some agenda going on and then my visual field are like astral projection i cant really control where do i fly , something controling the movement, it know how to turn left and right and going inside tunnel and then found a machine like object then the "screen" zoom towards the object and do something on it, immediately my heart chakra blast off i got some weird bliss spiritual sensation every since that day..yeah thats my ketamine story ,one in a while i still do trip on ket to check out whats going on inside

Thanks for your reply. I was wondering about that too. I was wondering the same thing. Since we talk about enlightenment a lot in the forum, I'm going to include that here too. It does relate. Just allow me to try to explain. It's just what I noticed. Remember how Leo did the 10 ox herding pics video? Well, if you digged into that, you will notice that Riding the Ox Backwards is your awakening. That's when you are the no-self (nothingness). Then, you transform into everythingness. Then, there's a "major" transformation back into your ego (body) and this world (realm) where you collapse as a black hole within yourself. You flow into love (bliss) when this happens, and when you finally realize this, your physical environment changes in some way in the form of "ah-ha" moments. If you could apply this in your own life, you become 'enlightened.' You don't suffer when this happens, just like in your awakening, and you're completely detached from everything, including the outcome. It's the end to suffering. You realize that everything is you. That's why it surprised me that at the end of the video, the homeless man mentioned world peace. In the end of the 10 ox herding pics, there is a street person called, The Cloth Bag Monk, who liked to sleep in the snow and mingled with ppl in the market place, esp children, and liked to pass out gifts. I'm wondering, this Cloth Bag Monk lived his life to the fullest as a street person in ancient times. He just had a smile on his face and mingled and went with the flow of things. He didn't look like he suffered, even though his conditions may seem harsh. He followed the "principles" of the deepest awakening (wisdom). I'm wondering, what did he do for a living? Did he babysit out on the streets? Maybe, and no one paid him. He may have just lived off of donations from others since he was considered a "monk." Nowadays, we have the internet. We have a life purpose. We have research and great sources. We have entrepreneurship and startup networking with angel/VC groups esp in major cities across the world. This is our marketplace. We form ideas and exchange our ideas. This is because our society is at stage orange. In the Cloth Bag Monk's time, society was at red/blue. They didn't have the exchange of ideas and opportunities. I think it's time to form ideas and go to our marketplace. Here is a modern day Cloth Bag Monk. I'm a busy person, but looks like I have to follow my own advice.

2g of dried mushrooms those wacky shrooms sure know how to fuck with my mind times and times again. it usually takes me a bit to finally surrender… this time too: I felt increasingly uneasy, some anxiety coming up. questions kept ghosting around my mind, feeding my restlessness: who am I? what am I doing? why am I doing this? I kept asking myself why I have to be such a curious, restless seeker. why can’t I ‚just live‘ like most people seem to do? I got the feeling that all my seeking and trying would lead me into a blind end. then the fear of losing my mind kicked in. of ‚losing it‘. losing grip. then the fear of death arouse. I’ve already died a couple of times on AL-LAD and shrooms and an infinite amount of times on aya. but apparently there is no limit to that. I realized that since my rebirth-experience on aya, a new ego has been formed around my Self and that this process is never bound to end: surrendering of self is an ongoing process. it was hard to let go, I had quite some attachments holding me back and that’s ok. I love and I care for people in my life, I don’t want to hide behind walls again. I want to keep opening my heart until I can love the whole world. until I care for every ant, love every grain of sand of reality I merged with an infinite strange loop which seemed to be me and the universe at once. one and the same, all is one. I felt so small in front of the Absolute that I became enormous. I fell through infinite grounds. every realization became the next dream to wake up from. I merged with an infinite loop. suddenly I asked myself ‚oh shit, am I ever coming back?‘ I realized to be trapped into infinity. forever. it took me a while to surrender to it. but this is exactly what you wanted. oh yeah? oh yeah. wait, what did I want? Oh shit, what do I actually want? then I realized my highest value, my truest desire. the one thing I want to have in my life and what I want to spread in the world, what I want to give to others: love infinite love and warmth overcame me. love for everything: my mam, my dad. I started crying. then I felt love for every person I know. for myself then I realized that what keeps me from eternal bliss and god are the limits I set myself. I don’t feel worthy enough. it’s not possbile! I can’t be worth all of this’ I kept thinking. the moment I realized my own lack of self worth and self love… I felt love in every fiber of my body. I kept repeating that I love myself and that I am worth all the bliss, all the love, all divinity. I realized that all beings are looking for love and attention - consciously or unconsciously. I saw myself as a child and then as a teen, desperately fighting for my parent’s love, acceptance and appreciation. I remembered doing everything I could at skiing and at school to get some approval and warmth from my dad. I remembered the cold feeling of never being enough, never being good enough. the pressure I felt every time my dad wanted me to be the best. and I am not accusing him, I am not angry at him. I know he only wanted the best for me and my life. it’s ok. I love him and I hope he can love me too, now that I’ve stopped trying to be the best. I also felt a very deep connection to my mam and a strong desire to talk to her (I later called her and told her how much I love her) I also asked the shrooms to show me how to integrate all of my psychedelic/yoga/meditative highs and experiences into my daily life. I don’t want to separate those from my day to day life. I realized once more that I wish to act and speak from that place of unconditional love and oneness at all times. (not really sure how yet, but time will tell..) <3 I also realized that all the suffering in my life comes from being separate from god. or better - from the illusion of being separate from god, because actually…everything is god, including illusion, including separation. my suffering stems from being homesick; some parts of me know that I belong to God or the Absolute and the illusion of being separate from it is very painful. it’s like being cast out of paradise. I need to remember the all is God, all is the paradise. formless and form. this nostalgia, this suffering is both a blessing and a curse. curse because I am a restless seeker, I want more out of life and blessing because it is this suffering that sets me into motion, that makes me walk the pathless path

An insight I'm having right now, this applies to others as well : Why am I thinking about stuff like this? This is just concepts, mental-masturbation. Why am I not meditating right now? Why am I not doing self-inquiry? I'll never reach enlightenment the way I'm on right now! What in the fuck is a single 20 minutes of meditation daily gonna do to me? Absolutely fuck all. Why am I not serious about my practice?! I WANT to be disciplined, I want it SO MUCH. I'm aching inside just by thinking about it. Becoming enlightened should be my absolute top priority goal, at all times. From summer to winter, healthy of sick, hungry or tired, I should have my eyes fucking pointed in that direction. You'd have to be mentally challenged in order not to wanna reach enlightenment! Only a fucking retard would prefer a life of suffering to a a life of eternal bliss. Everything I should do in my daily life should reflect towards that goal. From this day I will make massive efforts to get farther on the path. I'm showing my middle finger to my lazy, waaaaaaaylower self. Let's not meet again.

To put it simply: You're addicted. Addicted to bliss. A meditation junkie. Addiction to silence & meditation is a real thing, just like addiction to cocaine or porn. And just like the cocaine addict, it sounds like your life is falling apart in a similar fashion to any other addict. You probably had a very pleasant experience in meditation which got you hooked. Now you have to work to unaddict yourself to these states or else you'll never get anywhere, not even Enlightenment. Look up: Buddha on the mountaintop syndrome The truth is your desires will always cause you suffering. You don't want to be chasing bliss you're whole life, do you? Bliss works the opposite way of that anyway. Blissful states come as a result of letting go.

Story of my life The desire for bliss, relaxation, and peace is suffering. Let it go, and you'll have your bliss. Hint: you can't let it go, but you can pray for it to be taken.

@Mulky during an awakening, since you're not embodied anymore, and there is no phenomenon anymore, you don't suffer because you don't have to deal with an ego anymore. Even during that transformation back to your ego, you don't suffer. Instead, you fall into love (bliss) when you embody back into the ego -- both the body and our world (earth realm). Now apply this to life. How well are you going to apply this to life?

@thesmileyone can you differentiate between fire and the light it emanates? The nature of the self is silence peace bliss what ever.

So I'm done reading "A new earth" by Eckhart Tolle, and I really can't understand this part: THE FREQUENCY-HOLDERS The outward movement into form does not express itself with equal intensity in all people. Some feel a strong urge to build, create, become involved, achieve, make an impact upon the world. If they are unconscious their ego will, of course, take over and use the energy of the outgoing cycle for its own purposes. This, however, also greatly reduces the flow of creative energy available to them and increasingly they need to rely on “efforting” to get what they want. If they are conscious, those people in whom the outward movement is strong will be highly creative. Others, after the natural expansion that comes with growing up has run its course, lead an outwardly unremarkable, seemingly more passive and relatively uneventful existence. They are more inward looking by nature, and for them the outward movement into form is minimal. They would rather return home than go out. They have no desire to get strongly involved in or change the world. If they have any ambitions, they usually don’t go beyond finding something to do that gives them a degree of independence. Some of them find it hard to fit into this world. Some are lucky enough to find a protective niche where they can lead a relatively sheltered life, a job that provides them with a regular income or a small business of their own. Some may feel drawn toward living in a spiritual community or monastery. Others may become dropouts and live on the margins of society they feel they have little in common with. Some turn to drugs because they find living in this world too painful. Others eventually become healers or spiritual teachers, that is to say, teachers of Being. I don't get this part at all. Why would you turn to drugs after awakening? Why would this world be too painful to live in, after awakening to the truth? The way every spiritual teachers refers to the truth, is the peace and bliss that comes with it. Why would the world be too painful to live in, if you awaken to the truth of all there is. How can the Enlightenment, which is supposed to be "the end of suffering" in Buddhas words, lead to this.