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The last thing I would want is for any human to worship me. I'd rather not be remembered at all then. If any of you worship me, you have learned nothing. A billion creatures have died. I don't regard the life of Jesus as any more important than a baboon's, as that would just be an obvious and silly human bias. How come you don't regard yourself as the reincarnation of a baboon? They just need to follow principles of how the mind works. It has nothing to do with me. All I do is share principles, which anyone could discover for themsleves with some effort.

@Sugarcoat Well, it kinda makes sense, there are just many layers to it. We're dual, we carry both the feminine and masculine traits always and balance these proportions. We do limit ourselves through our psychology, however. In Reincarnation texts, the journey includes sex changes, though on an even greater scale, even Leo will tell you that you have been, are, and will be everything that exists. So I went on the journey of integration and realized all my problems stemmed from a lack of integration and a misbalance of both genders in psychic attitudes, though at this point being locked into one type of body feels like a limitation as well. And yet that itself is quite interesting because a blend of both would lose out on the prominence of either and still it's an art.

Say hello to "karmic cycles ". There is no such thing as reincarnation . It's just a belief based on new age internet spirituality. Weak sauce. Or Buddhism or some kind of nonsense like that. GOD. And you don't know what that is .

Why it's sure that Ramana maharshi was enlightened? Or Ramakrishna, adyashanti, Krishnamurti, etc? Those people were spiritual, they like meditation and yoga, and in their opinion, they were enlightened. What they mean? That they could empty their minds and perceive themselves as pure existence? It's not a big deal at all. Then all of them talked about reincarnation, end of the well, etc , that seems a kind of dogma, and we believe them because they follow a line of though typical in asia, kinda of Buddhism. Maybe they were just scratching the surface,. copying the ideas of others. Many could meditate all day and be happy, what means that? When I was a kid I was very happy playing with a stick for hours, o watching the insects. That doesn't mean nothing . That mean that they can remove the human desire, be calm, equanimity. Good, more happiness, but are they really dissolve the barriers that limits them?

The immediate spiritual answer to would be that we have a certain amount of time on this earth and bodily karma to put into motion like making families and cooperating, but then that is phased out as we slowly prepare to die and transition into the next reincarnation or plane of reality in "cosmic evolution" essentially. Are lives do imply endings (give our body back to the earth and reset all injuries, leave stuff for the next generation) and that's part of collective evolution. Now you say that personal evolution ends and if this life is all there is, then that appears correct, though with the right practices, health can be maintained for a long time even in old age and even as interests shift. Still I do agree with you, but then only if this life was our only existence, which I have much reasons to believe is not the case, and also believing it is, is equally biased, so I go for the most expansive and vitalizing interpretation.

I'm wondering if there is some sort of order to life and death, to reincarnation. If one keeps evolving their consciousness throughout this lifetime but doesn't become enlightened, is that then stored for the next time round? Also, I believe Krishna consciousness teaches that if you love eating pork in this life, you will become a pig in the next sort of thing. Along with living through 8.4 million (or billion?) different species. Just a thought.

Let being mesh in truth, to realise the true end. I’ve spent two months trying to confirm this. This is what reality is working it’s way too consciously. Bringing heaven right to the fore front. Your limited Awareness was created out of love. Nothing is actually going on. But nothing is not something you can experience as you currently have self - realised it to be. Full truth = no truth. Becoming god is to not become anything at all. The reason is because absolute facets are the only ones that exist, in its infinite form. There are levels of vibrations of being (sensations) where you can’t hold it in your body. You leave in the night sky To infinite levels of being. Pure being it took me months to peace this all together. Just know the end of times will need to be realised in solitude. There is nothing in the outside world that can get you there. There are pointers but you must make it true yourself

Check this video --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlzXhiQa4mk Sadhguru claims that we have 5 different kind of bodies. After DEATH The mental body and the pranic body goes on & when karma's intensity dissipates then it finds another body. Ofcourse i don't understand ANY of that BUT i think it goes contrary to what @Leo Gura is saying. Leo says that after death you just return to the Source & Infinite Love. Sadhguru says that unless you have a mahasamadhi then you will be a godamn ghost waiting for another body...And if you died unaturally then sorry my friend but you will have to wait much longer for another body than someone who died peacefully lol. What is the mental body & pranic body? Is just another name for consciousness? I'm super confused right now... Guess i'll find out when my time comes.... Can't wait man.

Jeez lol. Well she's definitely not the first person who has made the claim. Gnostic Christianity goes deep into it, and even a goofy religion like Scientology contains aspects of the mythos. Examples of the story are littered all throughout human history. Even Buddhism, with its efforts towards liberation from reincarnation. What's interesting in her case is that she supposedly came across the knowledge independently during a trip. It's hard to tell if she's referring to DMT or 5-MeO-DMT. I'd tend to think it's DMT, because that's the one with potential to show you malicious entities. This topic is something I'm aware of, and based on my understanding, I give it a chance of actually being true. But something like this is too much for the forum. The folks here usually keep their focus on non-dualism and meditative practice, which may be for the best, even if these other aspects of reality exist. Imagine if Leo made a video crying about his entity contact lol. The ripple effect from his reach would produce some mentally unstable people.

So I'm reading this book "How to Attain Enlightenment" by James Swartz. It goes into talking about vasanas, or basically behavior tendencies from the unconscious mind (or casual body) that can be inherited from who you were in your previous incarnation. What im wondering is how do past lives fit into Non-Duality when, from my understanding, everyone has the same consciousness looking through their eyes, then wouldn't everyone who has existed before you also be your "past-life" in a sense? Am I missing something, or are there different levels to it?

We are not caring about alternate realities. We care about Absolute Awakening in THIS REALITY and in THIS LIFETIME. Some of us are not letting death decide destiny. We are writing it in this lifetime while we are alive. Not at all. The point of the work we are doing here is that is the only thing that is not lost. All your mental stories will be lost, as well as your physical body. Your process of Evolution will not be lost. It transcends birth and death. Birth, death, and this reality belongs to a certain dimension. The Awakening that we are seeking is the ultimate dimensionless. It is beyond what you think is possible. You say this because you just haven´t tasted yet anything beyond your psychological process or mystical peak experiences. All of that belongs to the relative and indeed it will be lost. Speak for yourself. Spiritual truth is not a dogma or belief you adopt. Is a state of consciousness and deep transformation. It doesn´t have anything to do with intellectual knowledge. wtf? This Reality is meaningless. 'This reality' is the bondage itself. The point is stopping reincarnation as a limited thing (a form-a body- a mind that thinks) and going to back to unlimitation so your "act" on Creation number 84 can end. This is not a matter of choice, you already are looking for unlimitation through new endless sexual partners, career adventures, opening business, reading books, watching movies, playing sports... Your nature is such that you are constantly trying to break your limitations. The question is, do you want to do it in a conscious and direct way or do you want to spend 3 more lifetimes doing the outside circus ? What message is that?

Does reincarnation happen? How to see your past lives? How to see your future life? How does your previous life affect your next life? Does your current karma define your next life's sufferring? What transfers from one life to another?

😂 lol. Well..everything is literally liberation..everything is absolute perfection and it will never be anything else. But does that mean that from the perspective of a human everything is equal ? Hell no . Yes you can spend your whole life going to the pub and fucking bitches and sniffing Cocaine etc but that's only gonna create negative karma and when you die you will be pulled back into a new body via reincarnation. And there is never gonna be an end to suffering for you. You will probably say it doesn't matter either ..but in fact it does matter to you as a human . If you are in god-mode 24/7 high on nothingness then you can speak of everything being already liberation 👍.

@Consept Thanks for the context, this does explain some of his communication style I was picking up, and my uneasiness about him. He's basically a reincarnation of a Nazi German and ultra far right? Got it, makes sense he's in Jordan's podcast, also the guy who was too hesitant claiming and defining Nazis as ultra far right. Bunch of cowards. Also interesting video, and I find the guy's logically decent: Except one big problem with his explanation: the reasoning why Adolf Hitler claimed he and his party were socialists. They claimed such because they wanted to market and differentiate themselves from traditionalist Germans that failed during WW1. It's basically political deceptive marketing. That's why he claimed them as a nationalist socialist party. Also he's got good points addressing the shrinking markets here.

i don't want to be born again. I hope it is not true.

I'm a bit conflicted, where i'm practicing spirituality, alot through meditation, working on emotions/thought management, but I also love lust, and I think certain forms of porn can be incredible art. Part of me feels lust is okay to have, and you dont have to get rid of it if you dont want to. But would this get in the way as I go deeper and deeper into states of consciousness through meditation? I know Buddhists would probably say lust is horrible and its just one of the many desires that we should drop (i'm not a buddhist btw). But part of me wants to question that, does dropping desires especially with things like lust really matter? it feels like you can go incredibly deep with spiritual development even with having desires like lust (as long as its not super negative like rape obviously), and still probably be able to get out of any reincarnation cycle.

@Princess Arabia Ultimately I agree with you. But don´t sell the cart before the horse. There might be no reality and only You, but while you are here you have to play by the rules you created. You are not going to get out of this maze so easy. You have to get to such a place of absolute consciousness that you literally are completely conscious when the moment of death comes so you don´t get yourself in another mess (reincarnation). You guys that keep playing this non duality games is another type of Karma. Is not different than other type of attachment. You are not actually walking towards Evolution of your consciousness. Although intellectually is true what you say, by how you say it it makes me suspect you are not actually walking towards that. You think you already are outside the prison but actually you just got yourself a very comfy sofa in the prison that you think you are back home.

The hardest thing to love is unbearable pain. In fact, if it wasn't for that, a lot of problems in reality wouldn't exist. There would still be sadness and melancholy, which (imo) are good because they are profound and deep emotions that create a big love... but not harsh desperation and brutality. I got into personal development to get my things right with my social life, happiness, anxiety, friends, girls, my careeer with music and leo really helped me to solve a lot with problems. I found peace with meditation and understoo a lot about emotions, business, mental healh and truth. But there was this thing leo was speaking about which is the fact that "the truth is that everything is you" that I couln't really get at first. I was like "okay, but i don't get it really what does he mean" Now, after some years of videos I think I'm starting to get some of this. I have always been a loving guy, always moved for love. I love animals, nature and when i lost my first dog it really hurt me. I always wanted to fight for good in life and somehow be a hero (when i was younger). I was just very insecure because my dad doesn't like the fact that I want to make music, and in general he always hated my attitude towards life. He is a workaholic/rigid/very severe kind of person who doesn't like fun. So you can understand that doesn't go well with djing and electronic music nor Rap music, which are my fields... if it wasn't for my mom, I'd be a suppressed and desperate child, but thanks to her, I had help when I moved from house and wasn't alone. I've got the opportunity to receive unconditional love and support from her. So I am a kind of person that found Leo on youtube, searching for happiness and trying to get something right (because I had a lot of insecurities which led to big problems in my social life, with my first girlfriend I was very desperate and that led to the destruction of the relationship, and with friends I always had a hard time to get respected and to fit in). And I was very in line with a lot of things leo was saying. I liked the fact that he had a formula for things and that it was true! I always cared about truth... until I really started to get it. I was a scientific minded person. atheist. with leo i shifted this and accepted spirituality. I mean, that I understand when he speaks about emotions and love and how things really work ion reality, and that science is just measurements that get confused with the thing itself. which is, apparently, immagination. What really became a problem for me is, that i hate torture on people or animals in general, and always feared it on myself. I am very sensitive. And I had a lot of trouble when i discovered things like human trafficking, deep web, red rooms and hardcore criminal activities like snuff movies. I was traumatized, kind of, when i first heard of these things. And I didn't even know the truth yet. Now it's really becoming a serious issue since I grasped the concept of immortality. Now it really can't go away. It's a permanent fear in me, that things are not going to be well. Immortality is a continuous cicle of consciousness and unconsciousness and nothing won't stop it. Not even leo and gurus all around the world, even if we realise the truth and love and that that is the only direction fo life... still. unconsciousness will occur, like it's always been, and we are going through every life. cause this separation betwenn life and non life... honestly it's just stupid, there is no difference. now i get it really, it's all conscious so, let's say you can become the rocks, the woods, the planets.. depends on the point of view of the consciousness and its perspective... and this is a thing i still don't understand... why is consciousness frammented and isn't whole? why does it have a perspective? a point of view? from which you can't be conscious of the whole consciousness itself? but anyways... I'm having a really hard time to accept that I will be tortured to death many times forever.... and that sometimes I will have some "peace" in between... I feel like i loved my life before so much and had hope.. now with this truth, the hope has gone. I will still fight for love forever and follow the teachings of leo.. as i said, i am like minded somehow... but I can't get over this thing of infinite reincarnation. I feel like this life is a "pause" from the suffering. there i no safety and eternal peace. If I'm getting this right. I will be any animal, creature, conscious thing in reality which means everything possible. I'll be a dog, I'll be a rock, I'll be an atom... and who knows how much suffering there is there. I see the higher the intelligence, the higher the pain that can be inflicted. humans really are the scariest thing of reality I know. Cause they are at low consciousness level. and who knows what other horrible things can exist and WILL exist that's a promise. that's the doom to me. I can't get over it and accept it and I am living in fear and anxiety since I understood this with the "immortality" episode. Why does pain exist. why is it possible to ruin yourself like this. Not that I can change it... I can just do my best in this life until i'll have to let go and who knows what will happen.. I can give my contribute to reality but I look at it and see how bad the thing is. suffering is so big and selfishness is so high everywhere in animals and in humans... to a level where the bad things seem to be stronger that the good things. I mean, all of this suffering... just for a delusion. there is no victory in the other end. when a girl gets raped, an animal gets eaten, a kid tortured or an animal... that is just to serve someone who... isn't really getting anything good in the end. it's very difficult for me to love reality now that I am impersonating with everything. I feel like it's not right, something's wrong Thanks for your time

Is there some way I can directly verify this? Is there an enlightenment experience where you become conscious of reincarnation? Otherwise, surely this is just another belief.

@James123 "Quite literally, the "inner self" forms the body by magically transforming thoughts and emotions into physical counterparts. You grow the body. Its condition perfectly mirrors your subjective state at any given time. Using atoms and molecules, you build your body, forming basic elements into a form that you call your own." We are infinite, yet we come from nothing. We collect experiences across lifetimes and we emerge out of environments from which we individuate, we affect it and direct our experience, we tune into and attract certain experiences based on our beliefs, needs and desires, attitudes and troubles, dreams and disappointments, passions and failures. "If you hate illness you may bring upon yourself a succeeding life of illness, because the hate has drawn it to you. If you expand your sense of love, of health, and existence, then you are drawn in this life and in others toward those qualities; again, because they are those upon which you concentrate. A generation that hates war will not bring peace. A generation that loves peace will bring peace. To die with hatred for any cause or people, or for any reason, is a great disadvantage." "Change of form is not destructive. The explosive energy of a storm is highly creative. Consciousness is not annihilated. A storm is part of creativity. You view it from your own perspective, and yet one individual will feel within the storm the unending cycle of creativity, and another will personify it as the work of the devil. Through all your lives you will interpret the reality that you see in your own way, and that way will have its effect upon you, and in turn upon others. The man who literally hates, immediately sets himself up in this fashion: He prejudges the nature of reality according to his own limited understanding. Now I am emphasizing the issue of hate in this chapter on reincarnation because its results can be so disastrous. A man who hates always believes himself justified. He never hates anything that he believes to be good. He thinks he is being just, therefore, in his hatred, but the hatred itself forms a very strong claim that will follow him throughout his lives, until he learns that only the hatred itself is the destroyer. Remember what you concentrate upon"

A more "Earthly" answer I could give regarding reincarnation is that it seems to be an unconscious process for most people, in the sense that after death, you're carried by forces in alignment with your karma towards whatever your new destination is. The less capacity for consciousness that you've developed, the more unconscious the process becomes. Since the mass majority of humans on Earth aren't even aware they're supposed to be developing consciousness, it'd probably be fair to say this applies to 99% of people or something crazy like that. For those who actually have authentic skill, it supposedly opens up doors of possibility upon death, including enlightenment itself. Everything I typed above is pretty much based on faith in Tibetan Buddhism. I don't know it to be true, but I'm confident the people who described it would be in a position to know via mastery of the prajna mechanism I mentioned. Additionally though, I'd stress that the reality is probably incomprehensible by normal means, and well beyond what I've described.

Have you ever done a high-dose psychedelic trip and experienced your mind in a transcendent state? Or meditated extremely deeply? The logical process itself gets eclipsed and replaced with what Yoga calls prajna. It's as if our mind takes on dimensions and capabilities that are supernatural and altogether different from what we're used to, and it could be considered a siddhi in itself. It's in a state like this where we could have some hope of actually grasping reincarnation.

In Leo's video the one before last on meaning of life, he talks about how we are reincarnated, and we (God) choose to divide itself again to be reborn, but how could it be true when we take into consideration the earths population, the population has been growing massively, so dosnt that show that it's not just the same souls being reborn over and over again but new "souls", if it was the same souls then the population wouldn't be caused by Eccononic and political conditions etc?

A very tricky subject indeed.