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So you are sure about reincarnation because in some spiritual tradition is mentioned. Wow. look friend, everything we say about what is going to happen is speculation. If we say it knowing that it is speculation, everything is fine, a mental game, but if we think it is the truth... then you are entering the realm of stupidity. I hope that's not your case. We need some smart people, not the others

? spoken like a true Leo's follower. The matter of reincarnation is pretty clear tbh. You being here is proof of it. Or do you think you had a choice to stay in the formless realm and instead, you chose to take up this burden of a body willingly?

A very tricky subject indeed.

It is possible. There are plenty of people who have discovered that they are the whole universe and they still eat..shit . Piss ..have jobs ..dreams .etc To really get the conversation down to earth ..you need to stop spinning stories about what God is . Notice that you don't actually know for certain the things you mentioned like reincarnation. I think you need help from a therapist. Maybe @flowboy can help you .

In the most recent video Leo talked about how every life you raise your consciousness until you eventually merge with the absolute and reach nirvana and then will get bored of that, split from it and start again. If we are use the consciousness is like sand analogy, where reality is an infinite beach and we are all individual sand castles on a beach not aware we are all the sand on the beach, how can I be sure that my next life I will start from the sand castle that has just collapsed. In other words if I am doing all this consciousness work to reincarnate and have higher levels of consciousness and more chance of reaching nirvana in the next life, how can I be certain I will get the consciousness of the work I did not someone else? Or am I looking at this from the wrong paradigm as I am the whole beach so I am raising the consciousness of each grain of sand for the next rebirth? PS I dont want to take reincarnation on as a dogma so I’m still questioning it.

@Yimpa Isn't the projecting about the system is identical to his own psyche more psychological than spiritual, or vice versa? If kharma or incarnation/reincarnation exists, is this a karmic effect of Russel Brand's evil actions? A self fulfilling prophecy? Rape, in the legal and moral sense is a serious issue and clearly a wrong to me, but let's deviate briefly and talk about the spiritual territory, like having sex with incubi/succubae, demonic sex, or even rough sex role plays. What are your takes on these, and sex fantasies involving rape?

What was before our birth, what will be after our death?

@Hardkill Elon Musk is the reincarnation of Griffith from Berserk, it's to be expected he's that egotistical and power hungry. Billions of dollars and a deep belief in your vision, ambition and drive unchecked with reality can lead to something like a Narcissist billionaire.

I was never interested in reincarnation because it seemed pointless to me. Is it really "you" that is reincarnating if you don't have your memories or anything to do with your personality carried through? I did watch most of the first Bashar video linked above and I think it would be interesting being able to get information from outside consciousnesses telepathically but I don't like reincarnation as a way of conceptualizing it.

(These links are not embeddable as inline video's because of the limited sharing rights the owner of this channel has configured, someone who is posting a lot of excerpts and some full events by Bashar like this one illegally, but enjoy the spiritual wisdom and meditation while you can) Bashar Channeling - REINCARNATION. A Deeper Explanation 1of3 https://youtu.be/vb_zb2VtZrM?si=uvls8A0sNGbsK20J Bashar Channeling - REINCARNATION. A Deeper Explanation 2of3 https://youtu.be/gZUTAB70ccE?si=SmnhTThPMMT5OPD5 Bashar Channeling - REINCARNATION. A Deeper Explanation 3of3 - The MEDITATION https://youtu.be/oZzTzpN7jAY?si=crZ58VlbdTuy8WVh

Near Death Experiencers have been saying for decades and longer that reincarnation is real. And this testimony just added more evidence to reincarnation being real. Expert investigates 10-year-old’s reincarnation claims https://www.today.com/video/today/57120459

OK, these things you said make sense. When I was referring to reincarnation, I was talking about this idea of reincarnation just from 80 to 80 years for example. And the idea that ultimately exists multiple minds in the Universe.

In which countries is suicide allowed? Where is it not punished by some psych ward or something? I ate some bread, it was delicious but not good. Having problems with my digestive system. Anyway, which countries even encourage suicide? Are there even such places on Earth? I'm sorry for my negative thinking. I just need suicide. Does God accept it? Is there Karma to be paid for it? Would I have a better life after suicide if reincarnation was true? Please help leave and escape what I got myself into, please.

You did touch on something I think was very important. How do you know you weren't your mother at some point if you no longer remember it? And if you don't, did it ever happen at all? And furthermore - does it even matter? If you already are your mother, is there a need to actually act out being her? Infinity is a very tricky thing. But yes - in the end reincarnation does exist. Its just that you forget. That's the beauty. It makes it just a single Incarnation every time. That's the paradox, because now you must ask yourself, well, if its the first time, then does reincarnation exist? It's paradoxical.

Incarnation is basically consciousness limiting itself through a finite form, tricking itself. So reincarnation would be doing it more than once, whether you remember or not is irrelevant.

I mean technically Leo would say your imaging reincarnation, or any future reincarnations or past reincarnations. Reincarnation is imaginary, the past is imaginary, the future is imaginary. Almost like you constantly only have existed for one second

Everything's true and untrue....hence this entire thread is word games. You could both prove reincarnation to not be true or to be true....depending on how you look at it. For example.....since everything is nothing....nothing ever happened....so no reincarnation. But if you see nothing as something....then reincarnation is always happening.....it's happening right now in every moment. Since every moment...is new. So....depending on how you look at it....something happened, nothing happened....both are true...depending on how you look at it. It's why memory is a thing...without imagining memory....you would never KNOW something happened after it happened. Memory is how we create something...without recollection....nothing ever happened. Memory is how we create TIME. As we imagine a past through memory, and then use memory to predict a future. No memory....no past, no future, only a fleeting present...that is forgotten as soon as it happens.....

There is no such thing as no reincarnation Try to prove me wrong

Yes to that on an absolute level/perspective, big question mark on the relative/appearance level. And maybe God/Reality arranged it (just to have fun) in such a way that from a relative perspective it looks very much like life-bardo-life-.... and so on, with all the Karma/learning experiences over many lifes, stored in some kind of Kosmic Memory, forming a kind of soul? Sure all relative/appearance, but everything else you perceive/think/feel is also relative/appearance. And as long as one doesn't rest quite permanently in Impersonal Nondual Suchness, the relative does look & feel very real, and can make quite some (emotional) impression... So in my opinion, a wise perspective on Karma (and reincarnation): "Although my view is higher than the sky, My respect for the cause and effect of actions is as fine as grains of flour." Padmasambhava There are endless reports (over all centuries and cultures) ranging from meditation experiences (for example of Storehouse Consciousness and many realms/dimensions), to Out-of-body-experiences (experiencing for example after death realms, or storehouse-consciousness for these soul-units), or Near-Death-Experiences, all showing some of the relative truths of all of that. Among the best stuff I have seen so far, combined with some legit Enlightenment-Experiences, is the material/books/videos from Jürgen Ziewe: https://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Astral_Travel_and_life_after_death.html And as Bazooko said correctly: ALL of that is manifested/incarnated/imagined right here and right now, including the imagined past/history/Karma/Reincarnation/all of it. But that would be the Absolute Truth. And as long as the relative/manifestation side has emotional impact, philosophizing from and flying high more towards the Absolute Side of Truth is dangerous terrain... as recently demonstrated here quite impressively. Water by the River

There is actually some anecdotal evidence backing up reincarnation. People who remember their past lives .

he's saying reincarnation assumes time to be linear and fundamental which is not true hence reincarnation my ass.

Incarnation is not something that happens every 80 years or whatever. It literally happens ALL THE TIME. Incarnation simply means that consciousness takes on (the appearance of) a certain form. Without it, experience would not be possible. So the mere fact that you are reading these words is proof that incarnation is one hundred percent real. The only questionable part (from an absolute standpoint) about the concept of reincarnation is the "re" part. Incarnation only ever happens once, and that moment is right now.

Yes, but the problem is that these reincarnation people really believe in the concept of "me" and time. I'm not being sarcastic. Yes, God may dream of reincarnation, but He not necessarily will

God will dream reincarnation. Or are you being sarcastic? Elaborate, please

So youre saying God will reincarnate into every possible thing? that sounds like reincarnation to me