Ishanga

@emil1234 People are using different definitions of words, which may be why there is some common disagreements around here. Consciousness can be defined in a couple of ways, your general Awareness, ability to Perceive via the 5 senses, that can be defined as Consciousness.. Consciousness can also mean the fundamental nature of Existence/Creation and what was there before Creation, Grand Intelligence/Brahman/Shiva(that which is not).. In Deep sleep, which is a state, compared to Waking, Dreaming, and Full Realization, one is not perceiving anything via the 5 senses, but everything is still on, everything is being recorded and stored, but in Your subjective experience nothing exists, everything is gone, until you wake up, so in the context, we don't exist in perception terms, subjectively of course, and everything is subjective, you cannot experience anything outside of Yourself... Consciousness on a Grand Scale is still going on, things are being done and undone and everything is Now, Past and Future all at once...

Wow that is pretty low down the scale, I thought that the Samurai were a bit more spiritually inclined than most military ppl, that thru the mastery of their many skill sets they achieved spiritual awakenings of sorts, but for sure the way the show depicts it they are stuck in tribal wars and traps, war lords and such honor based systems which may be a bit egoic in nature, maybe they had to be to deal with their times and challenges... Good show though, very entertaining and intense!!

LOA comes from an Experience of Lack, which is common nowadays, we're very spoiled lol, we have more comforts and convenience than ever but want more, this is Desiring Process but only in physical/mental arena, you'll never satisfy that need in that arena, have to go beyond it and then one can be unbounded in their experience and no Lacking in anything...

What most ppl think of a Devotee is one that see's other above themselves, better than and such, Sadhguru has said many times not to do this, don't look at him as above, or below, just see him as a tool to use for your own growth. The path of Devotion, which it seem you know little about, is about being Devoid of Self, Selflessness, and it is the fastest way to Realization, but most today cannot do it, they ask too many questions, and are addicited/Identified too strongly with Mind and Intellect...so other methods are needed.. Do some research!! P.S. if what You are saying is true then no need to read or listen to what You are saying as well, why would we, Sadhguru has much more credibility than You and your telling us not too listen to him, lol why listen to You then, what/where is your credibility??

First he has said many many times that he does not offer a teaching, its just a method...What You see on Youtube is not what he is doing, it just marketing, he says this many many times as well, its all "Circus" in his words to get ppl at the least interested in Transforming, otherwise what to do in today's world? He peaks ppl's intellects, their general intelligence, makes them say "Oh maybe I need to take another look at this, at life", that is the spark, then the methods are shared and they work very well for most... Your missing the whole point really, its the same with any skill set, I trained and taught Martial Arts for 30yrs, I went thru all the phases, the brainwashing phase, the "My Sifu is the best phase" and all of that, then I switched systems (I learned Wing Chun), and it blew me away, it was completely different method and skill set, so since then I'm into skill sets, methods, Sadhguru's method works very well, and he speaks very clearly, that is all I am into...

Just pointing out the obvious that is all, I am guilty of it as well:) Lots of Sadhana, did 10yrs of Shambhavi straight everyday, not as much now do to life situation and time constraints, but want to get back into more and more, but sadhana is whatever is available via awareness and realization, for sure the shambhavi and all of the work I put into has helped my tremendously along the way I recommend it to everyone for starting out on this path and long after!

Oh I don't deny that lol, and its good, because since we are only talking "Around" Spirituality, might as well talk with the most sense right? One can talk about everything being imaginary or that everything is real but You have choice, what is the better way to talk, about what is Real or Imaginary, what is Truth or Untruth? He says it the best so I borrow heavily, no problem with that, there is no originality to it, if you think I should invent another path then that for me is a waste of time, why reinvent when proven methods exist... "Now I need to invent a way to carry heavy things around but not have to drop it every 5' because I cannot lift it anymore and have to rest..." Oh the wheel was already invented and a way to put things on a crate for it to be easier to carry things lol, so stupid to have to be original and such things, we just have to use the proven methods and apply them!! I'm here to mostly test my ego, bring it more forward in my awareness and entertainment...

They can't be for now, too much thought momentum is built up, too much karma at play...these are just words and labels, really mean nothing, but if one is identified with it as many here are, even after so called God Realizations under Psychedelics still come back with more and more thoughts, shows they haven't done the ground work, to integrate or dissolve into it...

Yes Totally, now how to integrate it or dissolve into it???

Is mind untruth, or truth? Is Body Untruth or Truth? Is Psychedelic Experience Truth or Untruth? How to Know Truth?

Laying back is a Doing, so is Loving:) That is not No Thing...Impossible to do No Thing while embodied, most impossible, even when motionless, completely silent mind, no thoughts, no desire, no perception or experience, the heart is still beating, lungs breathing, one has to disembodied to be totally No Thing, total loss of individuality, which is fine too:)

Society, is just a word, its not really a living experience for most ppl, so its an imagined things, ppl are functioning within a society at a very low level, its basic stuff, they mostly think about themselves and how to get away with breaking more and more rules/laws and not get caught, its getting out of hand, I see this everyday in Toronto, the exclusiveness ppl feel, like the are entitled and everything is about just them alone, crazy really, and is due to intellectual identification, it divides and separates everything.. Intellect is needed for sure, but we don't need to identify with it at all, just use it to provide basic needs and figure things out then drop it, don't hold on to it so strongly as the be all end all of everything that we have to use within our capabilities!

Everything is already Provided and is there.. Just a simple example we produce more than enough food for everyone on the planet but not everyone is eating, plenty are starving and food goes to waste, this is not Due to the Universe not providing, its Us Human doing stupid things, and being Unconscious in nature, otherwise there is no Lack of Anything, just Abundance! Its all has to do with Realization, not many are Realizing the abundance we have already, there is no need to want to manifest anything, for Us as Individuals we can Realize the Reality of our Existence and create the Experience you want to feel within Yourself at any time, that potential is there but few Realize it, so they live by accident and look outside themselves for things they can manifest or gather easily around them if Realization was in the masses that would be the case, its not so we have what we have!

This is not about Obsession with anyone, particularly Sadhguru, its about making Sense! He says it in the simplest of Terms, a child that knows basic language can understand it, that is all, I haven't seen anyone explain it simpler or with as much Clarity, that doesn't take away the need for others to share either, but somethings are as they are... What is Truth, what is Untruth, its the same with what is Reality and what is not Reality, both mean the same things... You can explain it forever and still not Understand it, so Explanations only go so far, but what is Your Experience of it? If Your intruth, as he says, You will be Joyful of Your own nature, that is Truth, because it makes so much sense, everything about You works better when in Joy, compared to being in Stress and Suffering, does anything work well when in Stress and Suffering, the proof in your own body and mind and experiences! Just Realization is all that is Needed!

The problem is your identified with the labels, and your Intellect which is a discretionary tool we use to survive another day, but we've taken it too another level of discretion where we are dividing and separating everything we perceive and based on your belief system identification judge ppl, which is not basing anything on reality.. The only thing you have to judge and discern is that if something/someone is life empowering or non life empowering, not on political, religious, societal ideologies and belief systems which are in the millions on how you can view something nowadays, it causes too much separation and exclusiveness, our problems and challenges will never be solved with this sort of intellectual identification problem!