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@Danioover9000 This show somehow how you are positioning here in this Forum. Well, English is not my mother language, but maybe because of this I need to refraim of using to much verbiage that I Observe you use a lot. Is all good to have an advanced vocabulary but I remember Leo saying somewhere that in order to reach some deep Awakenings he needed to clean a lot of his word game. From my experience this is also true. Of course here we can use and abuse of words but in some states all this feeding the mind with blabling became a hindrance. But maybe all the drama and bias and crusades are your survival strategy that soon or later you will need to purge out. Somethings are even more important than Destiny shit or even Alien death bodies. I like as everyone to be curious about this stuff but in the end the work is deeper than all this.

@Danioover9000 Quote" A spirit is in most cases an immaterial-yet-energetic thing in the context of the supernatural/paranormal, and in the context of UFOs and Alien life, we can presume that they're a physical material thing given claims of meta materials and psionic technology and space craft travel" Key words here are "in most cases" "presumed" and "given claims" If you meet today an Alien. Who to say to you that what you see,touch or even smell is an actual physical material thing?

@Rafael Thundercat I don't know if English is not your first language, and I can't comment on your qualia or intersubjective experiences, but I'll share my intuitive speculations at the broader holistic level, with some zooming in at parts with the topics discuessed. Most people will have differences based on developmental factors like Spiral Dynamics stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits, 9 stages of ego development, states of being and becoming and consciousness, life experiences, other lines of development in life and society, ideological beliefs indoctrinated, groomed and gaslight into your mind from upbringing and culture, self biases and preferences that mostly shapes your worldview, paradigm, metaphysical and epistemic assumptions of reality. So, language creates your reality, by that I mean that every word, noun, verb, adjective, adverb, and other special words, from the syntax and semantics, reality is created by your ego mind. So, when you say and ask me what does each word: "Alien", "Supernatural", "Spirit", "Consciousness", "Ghost", mean? Well, it's possible to define each term, but realize that each word is like a map of different parts of the territory, and each word captures and symbolizes a fraction of each part of the territory that word captures. I can give a general definition for each word, but the problem is that I can't give a persoanl based definition from your POV, or even mine, because each word may represent a different map onto the territory. A spirit is in most cases an immaterial-yet-energetic thing in the context of the supernatural/paranormal, and in the context of UFOs and Alien life, we can presume that they're a physical material thing given claims of meta materials and psionic technology and space craft travel. However, do you not know that you could be falsely equating and conflating an actual physical alien with a mostly non-physical thing like a spirit? Because both words and terms come from two different contexts. While it could be hard, you can logically explain this to me, in fact you're using logic right now to explain and describe what's magical and intuitive to you, you and doing some level of inductive reasoning and inference to give me bits and pieces of information.

What is different in the terms "Alien", "Supernatural" "Spirits" "Consciousness " "Ghost"? Is an Alien a Physical Material Thing and a Spirit an Imaterial thing? If you see an Alien in your Dreams what is what you are seeing? An Object? Remember that Aya is a plant that is used to navigate at nigth in the so called dreamland. And one of the main Dietas from Pajés in the Forest is a Root called Muká, that give them a certain power to work in this dreamrealm and summon up whatever needed to heal. I had once felt like my whole being where a Jaguar. Not that I got hairs and claws, but I felt warm and as a Jaguar presence was around me. Speaking like this sounds magic but is something that can really be explained with logic. By your same logic maybe would be easier for the militar forces to say that those people who saw the little big head aliens where deep tramatized people who had alucinations or visions of beings that where not true but just figments of their imaginations to allowed then to catharsis their traumas, maybe a trauma of not being seen as especial people.

@Hojo No, there's so much going on with telepathy and psionic alien technology. This isn't just a spirituality problem, this is a survival problem for humanity. How do humans defend themselves from hostile aliens that can do psychological and psychic attacks?

@Danioover9000 the people who get abducted don't know they don't have a body. They are not God realized they just assume that their bodies are abducted they are dream abductors. We are in alien simulation imagine something that can abduct your dream then rape you as you are frozen in time. Or don't cause why would you ever want to think of that. One more thing for holykeal to worry about. We should ask abductees if they actually saw their body or if they just assumed it was there. Normally they say they are laid down and un able to move so maybe their body isn't there.

Maybe Leo got his alien consciousness from aliens?

they are more concious than you and can freeze your dream I heard. People claim when they look at them they freeze and cant move. But they arent freezing your body they are freezing your consciousness. And alien abductions are consciousness stealing not body stealing. They are that powerful

What if our deep desire to travel space is nothing but an ingrained dna memory from where we came from or from where at least some pieces of our dna came from? Today we have the desire to look for another planet able to sustain life and where we can move and adapt either by terraforming it or by geneticaly change our bodies in order to live there? What if what we aim to do ready was done and we are the remains of the alien life and this visitors are nothing but our very old relatives coming to check how the experience is going? We are indeed a very interesting kind of animals here? Adapted to the environment but at same time with very alien behaviors and creating very artificial constructions.

You know what? I'm putting all my chips all in. Aliens are here. Mark Zuckerberg is one of them and he is an agent sent to create Facebook and catalyze other social medias in society to destabilize our minds and make us divided. In the next 15 years an alien fleet will either annihilate us with a mass contagion, or land and force us into slavery to extract our planets resources. Either way I vote we kill and dissect Mark Zuckerberg as a precaution

They can't keep all this secret forever. Over time, more and more stuff leaks out and now even senators and congresspeople are on the side of disclosure so the dam is about to break. It's not that higher ups decide to let people talk, it's that those who have the alien craft are not that high up, they are a tangent part of the government that is outside the normal chain of command. So it's not just a simple matter of going up a chain of command, you gotta find the right institutions and people, which is hard because this stuff is so comparmentalized that no one really knows who knows what. But those tangent people also don't have unlimited power to silence people because they are not the top of the chain of command and if they tried to bluntly silence everyone then they would blow their own cover. So the best thing for them to do is to ridicule all the UFO reports to make the whole topic seem ridiculous and insane. Rather than silencing people directly it's better for them to put out misinformation and fake stories to sow doubt and confusion.

@Jehovah increases I got the neti neti experience, please no more, that damn near put me in a repeat of the dark night of the souls. Also, apparently other businesses and billionaires are getting interested in some form of space mining, and are planning a lunar economy. That is interesting because the two main elements gound in the moon actually are really good industry minerals to make pretty powerful machines: https://www.space.com/moon-mining-gains-momentum Also, and finally, a legit reason and pressure to ACTUALLY SEND PEOPLE TO THE MOON FINALLY! I mean damn took many decades ago, forgot NASA and it's space program existed for a minute, them people be sleeping. Finally the astronauts waiting in virtual suspended animation somewhere in some pocket dimension will get reanimated to go back to the moon. Finally a lunar restaurant, maybe a lunar supermarket, and we'll be even closer to actually see if the moon is hollow, and is a forgotten space ship BOY! Imma be honest though, I think at this point maybe alien life isn't a big deal though? We've got media and mainstream movies and stuff about martians, UFOs, Reptilian people, some whacky depictions. I mean we've got wild imaginations. Is jt really a big deal? Even me, and I don't buy too much into UFOs and aliens cuz I survived a haunting experience in my childhood so paranormal experiences to me are already possible and are far more shocking than UFOs, but maybe it's relative.

@Jehovah increases Here's my next intuitive speculation: We did have contact with another alien civilization, that created the earth's moon not not just observe us, but as a warning to other alien races spying and scouting our planet: It's all making sense now.

@Jehovah increases If we ever encounter very intelligent alien life, with very advanced alien technology, if they were hostile I imagine this type of weapon would be easy for them to use, considering they have alien technology that has meta properties or metaphysics, and other psionic types of weaponry of similar scale:

Another interesting video of behavioral and body language analysis. Sometimes, not just UFOs but events of supernatural, paranormal nature is witnessed is so odd and shocking sometimes each person's mind has ways to somehow cope with the literal alien experience it is receiving within it's sense making capacities: Sometimes people even embellish an event with addition story, sometimes some people tell and recount differently in order, some even have such a strong negative shocking response that, and this is the twisted bit of the mind, they even will add many lies and distortion to protect it's own reality bubble.

@ZzzleepingBear I'll offer to be your temporary friend, talking about whether we'll also be having tea with a Gray alien one day. How cool would that be, having a tea party with an alien? Can we even communicate with one?

I can't. These alien information facts just seem to be superior to conventional boring made up facts. And as I said, belief based facts seem to be the faster way to learn about new information. Belief is key!!

What do we know about Aliens? How do they percieve reality? What kind of thought process do they apply? What kind of understanding do they have about the universe? What happens if an Alien brain takes alien psychedelics?

There is nothing outside of Absolute Truth. All inside and outside is occurring in the MIND, baby. Alien Consciousness > aliens

This is precisely true, and that is what many alien channelings describe - such as Law Of One: Ra Material

There have literally been 10s of thousands of credible eye-witness reports of UFOs over the last 80 years. To dismiss all of them is beyond delusional. The US gov has had alien spacecraft and alien bodies since at least 1947.

Imagine an AI alien. Or an alien AI. Now that would be some crazy shit.

@Blackhawk It's a very interesting subject, to know whether he's lying or not. Here's another video that explains slightly differently: My intuitive feeling in all this 'are aliens in existence, are they real, are they fake?' type discussions, it's one of the following: The system is too lazy to update it's theories and modals in it's epistemic and metaphysical frameworks and assumptions of reality, to explain alien life out there, especially ones of more superior consciousness and intellect than humans, this deep human species bias. The system is scared of admitting such creatures more conscious and intelligent than humans exist, because we really love to be the apex predators, to have dominion over other animals and plants. Anything challenging that is an existential threat to our sense making.

Is this implying shapeshifting or something? Are you just guessing here, or what would lead you to this conclusion? If you do have specific sources you're getting those ideas from, could you please share them? You probably consider a lot humans smart and we still make mistakes? ------------- And to people thinking we are smart and know what the limits of space travel or whatnot are...seriously? I'm not a science guy at all, but can't you see the huge misconceptions human science have had not that long ago? What says we aren't at 0.1% of the understanding of what science actually is? Maybe we're omitting such huge things, that other civilizations might understand (the universe is so old, there is possibly VERY old alien civilizations, right? We might as well just be bacterias to them. Sure, from our point of view, we're advanced and understand the world, but so does every "less intelligent" species than us do.

There's something I don't get. People say this is all a distraction. Firstly, a distraction form what? The world going to shit in so many different ways? Yeah, everybody knows, no need for distraction. Then, let's admit this IS a distraction. Does whoever is trying to distract think people have such a small brain they can't read about 2 events a once? What they gonna go, make an alien mockumentary until the planet burns? This doesn't even seem like a good strategy to distract the public from whatever. Now the other things I don't understand : if this is all true. Those informations have been and should be very well protected. Then how even are those guys allowed to reveal them in such a public setup? Doesn't the higher ups have enough power to erase all of this, shut them up? If they're indeed hiding informations about aliens, it must be because it could be super dangerous if revealed. Then how come they'd be considering it's ok to let one man live or just talk so easily?