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@Leo Gura Have you ever accessed Alien Consciousness without psychedelics? Or only a memory of it? Have you ever accessed it without weed?

The case of Leo seem like the case of Ramana Maharshi. Let's say that Ramana Maharshi's level of awakenedness is same as Carl Jung, Dalai Lama, Albert Einstein, desciples of Jesus are. Ramana Maharshi teached that you have to meditate only on the crown chakra, and you are separated from your body and mind and you can be on his awakenedness level only by this consciousness, this is similar like what Leo say that we have to know alien consciousness to be on his level. But there are let's say Carl Jung and Descipes of Jesus, who would say that you don't need what Ramana Maharshi say to be on the level of Ramana Maharshi. This is why Leo should make talk with Claude Clauidu from Quora website who seem to be a higher soul like Leo.

We are talking about type of consciousness on this thread which is understanding of reality. Every spiritual awakening is some amount of sudden increasement of this type of consciousness, but it will get back within minutes or hours, but if the person try to embody it, then you will be stabely higher than an avarage person. Like measuring how much IQ somebody has give a concrete value, how awakened somebody is can be measured. Serious spirituality consider this type of consciousness as a concrete thing, as Leo said that he know he has truth because he is awakened. Playing unserious meditation non-duality, or philosofical mental games are not increasing this consciousness, but only people can know this who experienced some awakening or impoved his awarness with well directed self-improvement. If a person not motivated enough then practices that maybe worked for others, for him will never work and even block into some spiritual belief and he delude himself that he imporved himself. When an avarage person say that I am god and when a more awakened person say that I am god then there is difference. It is come from religion that only who don't have arrogance have higher understanding. Leo made his videos by trying to embody them in his life which can be seen on his contents. Somebody can be highly awakened, but maybe don't talk about god at all. The problem I see between Leo and forum members is that losing soul attachments is what increase awakenedness and not alien consciousness or human insanity. So somebody can be with as little psychological escape or be as awakened like Leo (he is highly awakened anyway), the person not talk about god or spiritual matters in the way Leo speak and the person don't talk about alien consciousness for example Claude Claudiu from Quora. I for example I felt deeple awakened to that every spiritual progress is neurotic, but Leo don't awakened to this because he had other attachments. Awakening is just this: Increasement of consciousness in the consciousness related to awakenings, but it doesn't related to any theme essentially. Any Spiritual Awakening increasing one type of consciousness.

I just read on the blog that according to him it is absolutely true that the government has alien ships in its possession. that there are so many millions of stars that it is impossible to deny the existence of intelligent life in any of them. and? Does that mean that there are alien ships hidden by the government? and that seasoned with: I use my mind and you don't. well it doesn't seem like it

The question is: Why would I want to have that alien insanity experience? because conscience allows it? and? Will it make me understand conscience better? Put to have experiences, I prefer to cross the Antarctic on foot or something like that. What's happening with Leo, in my opinion, is that he's become a complete psychonaut and has renounced being human. well, it's his life, in the end we all die and that's it. But Leo, man, you could be less aggressive, let's forget that shit of who is the best, if you are alone, why be so worried about the rats, the Buddhist, the republicans, and everything else? Let's enjoy life, express love and breath the air, we don't need anything else.

@Ajax there is no controversy, because it’s some implants for disabled people. Would you expect for people to rave about Stephen Hawkins’s chair? Why would anyone care about these chips? Although, I agree. Elon Musk is an alien, he is otherworldly stupid.

Lol, I often wonder if Elon Musk is an alien. The FDA approved the testing of brain implants in humans. I don't hear anyone talking about it. There is no controversy, it is the most bipartisan issue I have seen in recent times. It is like no one cares. Why is that? There has been some very strange occurrences lately and it would be good to be vigilant and look at all news events when major events occur or the news is reporting something incessantly... you might just miss something. #misdirection

No, that is not my purpose. I don't really know what is required to collaborate with them, other than extreme openmindedness. Of course they have good reason not to reveal themselves. Humans barely cope with human immigrants, nevermind alien ones. You cannot give nuclear energy to gorillas.

@Leo Gura How do you know all these things you're experiencing are not just hallucinations from the psychedelics, pure junk? How do you know it's something valuable, another awakening, 'Alien intelligence' etc etc.? How do you verify that?

Well, I've never said 'you' are different or separate from this 'ultimate reality'. I think you misunderstand the term 'outside of your mind' I'm not talking about some separate reality OUT THERE inherently different from your conscious experiences. I'm saying that the ultimate reality is ABSOLUTELY NOT the way you experience the chair, coffee cup, or apples. I'm saying you are an INTIMATE and ABSOLUTE part of this ultimate reality. I hope you also agree on that. What I'm saying is that you have NO WAY of experiencing that ultimate truth with your human brains and meditation techniques and psychedelics DIRECTLY! You can however, experience this with absolute certainty INDIRECTLY. See, Leo thinks he is accessing some special knowledge or experience in psychedelics. That those said experiences mean everything to him in his progress of spirituality and understaning as a whole. These are actually huge blunders. Experiences doesnt mean anything. All experiences are constructs of one's brain/mind/imagination-survival machine.You need to see how your mind constructs all that 'alien awakening' and actually is INCAPABLE of experiencing the ultimate reality directly. Not even with fancy meditation techniques or with daily psychedelic usage etc. That understanding is emptiness and not even psychedelic experiences can give you 'a way out'. All you can ever experience are concoctions of your mind and brain's processing. Is brain a part of this imaginary reality. OF COURSE! That pink squishy soft substance is also just as illusory as a body. But obviously, brain, IN THE WAY WE EXPERIENCE IT AS A PINK SUBSTANCE, is an illusion. Its function is still important and ultimately unique in the sense that it can change the contents and experiences in consciousness. But again, chasing experiences and overall content are NOT what we are interested in in spirituality. Emptiness is extremely misunderstood in the mainstream context but is a very profound insight. Once thats understood, THEN you'll actually understand what these masters are talking about when they say 'ultimate not knowing'. Not in the sense of 'being uncertain' or whatever but understanding the limitations of human brains when it comes to the pursuit of spirituality.E

I have this weird feeling that you don’t really know what you’re talking about… and I can’t quite shake it off. ”Imagination is the opposite of enlightenment?” No, imagination is infinite. It doesn’t have any opposites. AWAKENING (as Leo calls it) transcends AND INCLUDES mind-identification. It can USE mind-identification to shape and sculpt your identity to create the specific reality that you WANT. You’re God! What kind of reality do you want to create for yourself? Does your ideal girlfriend have big boobs or little boobs? None of this “well I’m not identified with forms so I have no preference.” Bullshit. You have a body… so obviously you (as God) had some kind of preference to exist as a human (rather than an ant). “Experiencing yourself as Alien Consciousness just buries you deeper in the dream.” Ummmmmm. No. Alien Consciousness includes and transcends your tiny idea of enlightenment within it. You think that “just stop identifying with the mind” is enlightenment? That’s just dipping your toe in the shallow end. What happens after that? When you go full circle… here you are. Identifying with things… and realizing that you get to choose how you want to sculpt reality with your imagination. YOU BECOME SO NON-IDENTIFIED THAT YOU ACTUALLY BEGIN TO RE-IDENTIFY AGAIN (but this time, on purpose). You can use identification to skillfully craft reality to structure it in such a way that practically helps all beings achieve Awakening. Just telling people to “stop identifying with the mind…” Isn’t going to Awaken humanity… if it was… then everyone would have awoken after “I Am That” was published. Awakening is infinite. You have no idea what it is. (I can tell)

What I really want is Alien Technology & Alien Creativity.

Said in that way, yes, but maybe We dont understand what he is saying, because he does not explain it. maybe he means something different, that alien is a way of expressing... whatever. I don't think he is dumb to fall for those traps I'm not, just only being able to open up to the now longer and longer, but 90% of the time falling into the mind, sometimes unpleasantly. but every time I manage to get out of my mind, it's freedom. I try to do it daily, meditating, microdosing, whatever. It's something that goes little by little imo. the big difference is between never and sometimes. on the other hand, there is another Thing: psychedelics. 5 meo dmt does something I want to master but find it difficult. the absolute void, and behind it, the revelation, the mystical experience. infinity manifesting without any obstacle. the unthinkable. on the other hand, be careful... it's a shortcut, something that must be used to educate the being that I am to really want the opening, to drink the cup of existence until the end

Yes, enlightenment is the perpetual absence of ego-identification. If you are moving into and out of the flow state, putting on the ego mask over and over again, you aren't enlightened. Trading the human mask for an alien mask doesn't make you any more enlightened. Leo seems to believe that scuba diving into ever deeper levels of exotic identification is AWAKENING. It isn't. It is IMAGINING.

Don't you think Alien Consciousness should lead to more love and understanding of regular stupid humans? Would you consider RA from the Law Of One Material (assuming it is legit) an alien inteligence?

I was making a general observation. I have no idea how egotistical you are. Exploring experience is only egotistical to the extent that you identify with the experience, and attach expectations to it. My point is that imagination is the opposite of enlightenment. Experiencing the cosmos as an imaginary human, imagining that it is an alien, only buries you deeper in the dream. You are only awake to the degree that you directly realize who you are, beyond every form. A good litmus test is your baseline rate of suffering. If you only escape suffering by engaging in mind games, and find yourself constantly returning to suffering, you aren't awake yet.

Does Alien Intelligence lead to disdain for humanity?

Insanely epic. Alien Consciousness. I listen to my intuition, which is fed by Universal Intelligence.

What would it be like if an advanced alien mind went insane? I even found the fitting contemplation music to this. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR01qWcRceJtkAwjPCfpYVw

@Arthogaan Much ALIEN LOVE.

Or maybe humans and Aliens. Hope they're not as horny as humans. Don't need too many Alien babies running around.

It's not really that important. A more worthwhile goal to pursue is Alien Consciousness. That's the shit.

Oh I get that, I was trying to think about some kind of analogy to get a phenomenological sense of alien consciousness. Ofcourse it is not insane to itself. Can you share your experience a bit? By the way, the other day I handcopied word to word the poetic description of God Consciousness which you wrote, just for fun and it was totally beyond any kind of spiritual practice I have ever done in my life. Thankyou for that.

In the past I used to struggle with that. I had about a 6-12 month period where I felt like I was losing my mind and things were somewhat erratic and even dangerous. A few times I came close to physical death. But eventually, with even more awakenings and inner work my mind reached a new level of stability and groundedness. Insane groundedness and peace. I am profoundly happy much of the time now. I bask in GOD's infinite beauty everyday. My consciousness glows with GOD-realization and my mind has become poetry. That is the upshot of all this work. I would call that more like ordinary Alien Consciousness. Alien mind is not truly insane, it's just so conscious that most humans would consider it really foreign and weird. You have to be careful here because humans tend to use the word "insane" very loosely and incorrectly. Most humans have no idea what regular insanity is, nevermind alien insanity. Calling people who you disagree with "insane" is a real disservice to true insanity.