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OK look.. What reincarnates? The body? The soul? The self? The Self? The awareness? The ego? All? Some? What??? Because as a matter of observable fact the body decays into dust and rot alright?. Once your physical body dies it just dissolves into it's essential elements and just evaporates in nature.. Gets diffused into the soil etc. So that's that. What is it exactly that reincarnates then because obviously it's not the body? The self? There is no self "inside "the body lol !. The body is inside the" Self". There is no ghost inside the machine. What you really have is a machine inside the ghost lol. The self (ego) is a negative hole that appears as a consequence (byproduct) of entanglement of thoughts.. perceptions.. feelings etc. It's a misidentification really. It's a negative.. not an existing entity onto itself. So there is no self to reincarnate. IMO reincarnation is no different from Abrahamic religion's notions of hell and heaven.. Both have ZERO evidence!. As for karma.. Well it's simply that for each up there is a down and for each action there is a reaction. You throw up a ball in the sky.. It falls down in the opposite direction taking the exact time that it took to reach the highest peak to fall from it into the ground. That's karma. The universe is already at perfect balance. There is no need for reincarnation to achieve balance as if balance could be lost to begin with. Balance is already the case. It's inconceivable that something unbalanced could even exist! And if you look at it from a pantheistic worldview.. You are already living inside every creature in this planet.. So at the moment that you are beheading a chicken you are the chicken that's being beheaded and the human who is beheading it simultaneously. Karma is instant.

I just read this, and it really made me question death and reincarnation and multiple realities. The message was on youtube, and it read: I've got a similar message the time I was coming off mushrooms and thought it was a good idea to hit the dmt pipe the next morning and I was immediately nowhere without a body or anything just simply awareness with a crazy color wall infront of me and a voice coming from everywhere saying I have no idea what I'm fucking with and I was like yup you're right then plopped back into my body and for maybe a minute my awareness was above my head I could see 360 and there was a central me with a bunch of floating boxes that showed almost infinite realities and one movement in any of them would ripple across. I remember noticing that each reality I was sitting or even standing in a different spot all in the same room. I was like ohh shit I might have screwed up this is way to much and then I closed my eyes and opened them to be back inside my head in a single reality. That confirmed my suspicion, now belief that death isn't what we think and I can't really die in the normal sense that I would just wake up in a reality where things were a little different. I actually remember dieing in a car accident but ending up in a reality where I perfectly avoided the crash but vividly remember looking up and accepting that I was going to crash and there was no way to swerve around, didn't even go for the brake but then I was on the other side of the car controlling the swerve and remember jerking the wheel once to basically juke the car somehow without hitting the guardrail that in the last reality was closer then this one, I managed to not put a scratch on my mom's car, but I could remember giving up and accepting that I was going to smash right into this car that was at a dead stop a car length at most infront of me while doing 60mph. Another interesting part is that feeling you get when coming back from dmt is the same feeling I had on the other side of the car. Backtracking to the day on mushrooms before the dmt hit I had not planned anything I just did it kinda out of curiosity and boredom, ended up having so many thoughts coming feeling like anxious and then I layed back to try meditating to look in the sky and see a huge godlike version of myself that told me everything I feel and experience is my fault resulting from choices etc. I immediately was like yeah makes sense you're right, then a vortex opened up in the sky connected to my head and pulled all of the racing thoughts out leaving me feeling totally at peace. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Like a realization that no matter what we do we can't really "die", and we'll just keep living the infinite realities until we find one where we narrowly escaped death, and then forget the rest? This is quite a mindfuck...I've had a few near-death experiences where I wondered how I got out of it alive. Maybe this is the answer...we are just all immortal, and when we see other people die, they are living a different reality where they're alive?

Wait a minute, the lion and the lamb in the Book of Revelation might represent the Wanderers in the Law of One. The common interpretation is that the lion/lamb means Jesus. But Jesus now belongs to heaven since he left earth and the Advocate, the Holy Spirit remains on earth to remind us. And the lamb looked like it had been slain. The original Koine Greek says: "a Lamb standing as having been slain" (Ἀρνίον ἑστηκὸς ὡς ἐσφαγμένον). That doesn't necessary mean that the lamb had been slain. And was Jesus slain? That's weird wording I guess (I'm not an expert on English). So the lamb is on earth and it looks battered. If the Wanderers are the lion/lamb, then the lion is still a front but the lamb has gone through a lot of suffering! Scary scenario. And indeed, check out what Ra says in the Law of One: Social memory complex means collective consciousness. And Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow, that sounds like a battered lamb! It indicates that a collective consciousness is trapped here on earth and has to wear the "cloak" of a lion in order to function in our world. That's hardly the breakaway civilization, because they would be able to break away from the trapped state. Yikes, the Wanderers seem to be regular people but with a collective consciousness that is trapped in third density ego consciousness. And reincarnation means Wanderers who die and new Wanderers being born. It's a collective consciousness. The Dalai Lama said that reincarnation is real, but it's not personal, he said. Bingo.

I AM with you on it. this, that's all, "anything else" is illusory concepts: ego, soul, reincarnation... ? Put in quotes since there is nothing else tbh ?

Do You think God would reincarnate current racists humans into other races in their next reincarnation? Don't You think that's how god educates? Don't you think this is the best type of education By turning someone into the person(s) that which this someone hates and cannot Embrace/Love? So if one was sexist he/she would reincarnate as the opposite gender in the next life etc.

@beastcookie the comprehensive answer: throughout the spiritual journey, there could be thousands upon thousands of opinions, ideas, and perceptions, the thing is that the most stupid thing for us is to take everything blindly without our first-hand experience of that abstraction/concept! for instance, someone could read dozens of legit books about reincarnation and he might get an idea of the reincarnation but it's not that simple to form a mental image in the mind about that and then believing into that for the rest of life. what I really love to recommend for this certain situation is to clear your mind from any abstractions that are taught in any book or video, and prioritize the very own direct experience which is beyond any mental image/imagination/visualization/over-conceptualization! only learn the basics of consciousness work which are more practical and implement them to reach the hands-on experience!

@Inliytened1 when you say never coming back to your form when your identity dies, wont you still come back when your born again? How does reincarnation work? Is it all imaginary and all those memories of "you" growing up are not real? Only the present moment and direct experience is what exists?

I still can't wrap my head around the notion of "Death is imaginary" as Leo put's it. I still perceive death as you are just sitting in a endless darkness where you don't see anything, and you still are thinking thought's and have a ego or identification with something, do you still have thought's when your identity is dead and you don't identify with anything? Do you still see this reality or direct experience what we are seeing right now? During the body's physical death, what's the transition from being in the body to merging into infinite love? Is it like waking up from a dream into a new form? or is the identification is gone and just is direct experience with no identification? that bring's up another topic of reincarnation though, and the void where consciousness pop's in and out.

@freeman194673 Our reincarnations? Reincarnation isn't real. Nothing is being RE-incarnated. The absolute essence of reality is the entirety of reality. Infinity in and of itself is a motion. There is only and can only ever be infinity. You cannot escape this. Not with silly concepts, not with pretending it's not there. It is the only thing you will and can know. That is why we call the ego an illusion. Concepts are illusions, I can think of a square-circle but it will never be a representation of reality.

It's not a cycle. Nothing repeats in this life. Everytime there is a different cry, a different laught, a different sleep, a different day. And there's the duality : being awake/sleeping because we need sleep in order to function properly. see this man with fatal insomnia for example: And if you're talking about reincarnation,I'm not sure about that. As Leo said,you could stay in the Godhead realm aka Heaven forever. the reason for what?Our reincarnations? Why? You can be innocent at 50 years old too. You can have that bliss at 50 years old too. Some people didn't have it in childhood. Some people won't ever have it.

interesting take on reincarnation

Reality is a mental projection, there is no need for imaginary counterparts such as "physical" "death" etc. All is needed is to stop imagining/projecting the dreamscape. Does it make sense that from all kinds of galaxies/planets/species from all the infinite amounts of creatures, God comes always back in a human form? Kind of limited to be reincarnation as a human always, why not as a DMT Machine Elf for example?

containment, absorption and reabsorption of energy, storing it in the dantien and refining it to the philosophers stone. As described in his book the magnum opus. OBE visualizations to create a strong double body. After a lot of practice they become as vivid as real life. See his OBE book. And in his book the way of the projectionist, he goes into more details to make it more effective. And you channel the energy you accumulate through energetic containment into the OBE visualizations, thus in the creation of you double body, which makes it more powerful. When your double body is very 'solid' you transfer your whole consciousness into it, and thus leave your physical body forever, it will then just be dead. For that to work you need the energy from your philosopher's stone. How exactly to do that, he wants to write about in a future book. This doesn't necessarily contradict enlightenment. Being enlightened means you know you are God, yet the experience of a physical body continues. After death of the physical body, the experience as a point of awareness probably continues even if you are enlightened, then you have an etheral body, and then perhaps incarnate somewhere else. John Kreiter says the purpose of transferring your consciousness to the double body is to escape prison earth, the matrix and the reincaranation cycle. But there are also other ways of doing that. One is to avoid the light trap after death and escape through a hole in the grid. probably another one is to become enlightened. John Kreiter's way would probably have some advantages though. You would have a smooth transtion, without a gap with a loss of consciousness and thus you would be guaranteed to be lucid and fully in control. And you will keep the philosopher's stone (it is non-physical) thus you keep this energy/power. John Kreiter said he will write more about reincarnation in his next book.

God doesn't reward those have achieved enlightened, its such a silly human concept that god rewards and punishes. There is no reincarnation, you have no individual soul, the ONE soul has you, and once YOU are gone, the ONE soul remains, as it has always been, is and will be. It doesn't matter if you were Hitler or Gandhi, its all the same once the heart stops beating, the human experience ends and the god experience continues.

Leo, what about reincarnation? Isn't it so that only a fully awakened person goes to infinite love at the point of the ohsycial body's death? And other people keep reincarnation? Did you get insight that makes this information no longer to be true and that everybody go to infinite love forever?

i understand it in the direction that the same accounts for people of white/pinkish skin ‚colour’, its just that they won’t take full responsibility, because they cannot - therefore taking full responsibility means taking full authority, in sense of not letting these things happen in silence. the quote entails a dissonance, it can be understood as of course no one chooses anything, or if people believe in reincarnation, the reincarnation for the reason of choice. staying calm means not calmness of heart - it means calmness of mind. i doubt this was a text exactly written for the current situation.

We are the same subject, like the same perfume but in different bottles. However, please remember there is no such concept as one day! Time does not exist, space does not exist, everything happens NOW. Reincarnation is not the case, you will not jump to my body. Jumping implies time and space continuum. There is no such thing as "mine or yours" I think the proper way of putting this is: If I am not real, how can others be?

I heard that the Dalai Lama said that there is reincarnation, but it's not personal he said. One radical possibility I came to think of is that there already is a collective consciousness of humanity. That's something I have already mentioned, such as the possibility of an ancient breakaway civilization on earth. Reincarnation, then, is for people in the collective consciousness! And that's why it's not personal. The collective consciousness I speculate is a single being and individuality is preserved through reincarnation. And the western religions are about bringing the whole of humanity into the collective consciousness, into a new "heaven" which means higher levels of beings and not some separate astral realm or something like that. This, then, means that those in the collective consciousness are very eager to bring about a Great Awakening, since reincarnation sucks. The eastern religions and spiritual traditions are about liberation from the collective consciousness being trapped in a state of recycling of individuals and the western religions are about transcending the separate ego consciousness.

Writing and painting have always been my key favorite interests throughout my life. I can't get enough of either. But spirituality also has a due place in my life. I like starting my day with spirituality. That's why the early morning meditation. For me nearly and almost everything has to be spiritual. I don't know why but my heart is deeply in love with spirituality since childhood. I used to collect books on spiritual stuff, I used to love reading books on Reincarnation, mysticism, paranormal phenomena, these things have shaped my personality over the years. I have admired Ian Stevenson (if I remember his name correctly) greatly, he was in some ways a pioneer in this research. Over the last few years, I've spent time watching numerous documentaries on spirituality and mysticism. I have studied ancient cultures. My appetite for such inquisitiveness is voracious as is reflected in many of my journals.

Carl-Richard, yes that is the theory Rick is trying to reinforce in these interviews. What I'm trying to say is that Rick has a belief already and he is always looking for ways to bolster that belief through his guests, which they inevitably do. Reincarnation and the soul's evolution itself is a belief system which can hinder real awakening in favour of the "spiritual ego' that clings to such beliefs.

Here's an anomaly episode where Rick took a break from the usual suspects and interviewed some psychadelic experts :D. Regarding the fact that so many "awakened ones" on Rick's show say they had mystical experiences in childhood, Rick has now made this a running theory about awakening that he brings up in almost every interview, which bolsters his reincarnation/soul evolution narrative. I'm not convinced that is the case at all and could become another "belief" rather than being truly awake to what is. This could definitely be a hindrance to true awakening (as opposed to intellectual awakening).

Stop calling "death" anything that gives you a momentary experience of it. Real clinical death brings to NDEs and/or reincarnation. Check my sign. for more info on the actual terrifying truths about death, CHANNELED BY TRUSTED SOURCES but still unknown to most seekers.

They are a result of many factors. Mostly what you learned in this current reincarnation (unless you learn/can innately channel). And your current life situation, plus your current "day to day" situation (office/school, your room, etc)

I like this episode of Anita Moorjani. She is an Indian woman who had an NDE experience. She is very impressive and a delight to watch. I am always reminded of the Hindu concept of Reincarnation whenever I listen to Anita. She is quite a miracle. Enjoy Thanks to @Natasha for creating this topic.

The dream state is used as an analogy. You've interpreted it as an equivalence. It's similar to a dream in the way that it's made out of mind, not matter. However, you could infact argue that the reset mechanism is also analogous, only across different lifetimes (if you believe in reincarnation).