How does reincarnation works?

[Kailash Bhattarai]

For all the account of people, Sadhguru, various scriptures in all religion it seems like reincarnation is a fact. If so how does it really works and how does the karma of this life transfers to the next life? 

Edited July 6, 2020 by Kailash Bhattarai

[Kailash Bhattarai]

12 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

By choice.

What do you mean by choice?

[Kailash Bhattarai]

@ivankiss Really? What kind of experience did you have?

[Waken]

At the moment I'm reading 'Journey of Souls' from Michael Newtown. He writes from his experience about his profession of putting people into trance state and bringing them back to past lifes or lifes in between lifes (the spirit world). I could write you about it, but if you are interested in it, than why don't you read the book yourself? :-) I'm saying because I find the book very beautiful and wouldn't want to have changed it with someone giving some bullet points lol. If you rather have the bullet points though let me know

[An young being]

Resurrection can be easily proved if someone who claims can describe the life of past incarnations in detail and the people very close to the past Resurrection can verify those. Unfortunately, I haven't come across such cases.

[Kailash Bhattarai]

@Waken Ok i think i am going to read this book but still you can give me some bullet points. I don't care about spoilers. 

[Someone here]

OK look.. What  reincarnates? The body? The soul? The self? The Self? The awareness? The ego? All? Some? What??? 

Because as a matter of observable fact the body decays into dust and rot alright?. Once your physical body dies it just dissolves into it's essential elements and just evaporates in nature.. Gets diffused into the soil etc.  So that's that.  What is it exactly that reincarnates then because obviously it's not the body?  The self? There is no self "inside "the body lol !.  The body is inside the" Self".  There is no ghost inside the machine. What you really have is a machine inside the ghost lol. The self (ego) is a negative hole that appears as a consequence (byproduct) of entanglement of thoughts.. perceptions.. feelings etc. It's a misidentification really. It's a negative.. not an existing entity onto itself.  So there is no self to reincarnate.   IMO reincarnation is no different from Abrahamic religion's notions of hell and heaven.. Both have ZERO evidence!. 

As for karma.. Well it's simply that for each up there is a down and for each action there is a reaction. You throw up a ball in the sky.. It falls down in the opposite direction taking the exact time that it took to reach the highest peak to fall from it into the ground. That's karma.   The universe is already at perfect balance. There is no need for reincarnation to achieve balance as if balance could be lost to begin with. Balance is already the case.  It's inconceivable that something unbalanced could even exist!  And if you look at it from a pantheistic worldview.. You are already living inside every creature in this planet.. So at the moment that you are beheading a chicken you are the chicken that's being beheaded and the human who is beheading it simultaneously. Karma is instant. 

Edited July 6, 2020 by Someone here

[An young being]

24 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Once I've been 'clinically dead' due to overdose. Merged with The Light.

Also; consciously choosing death and being 'resurrected' - once or twice. 

Are you able to recall your past lives?

[Waken]

@Someone here Who cares that you can't literally say that something reincarnates. There is no self to reincarnate.. so what.. doesn't mean reincarnation doesn't point to a 'process' that's all too real. You say there is zero evidence for it. Actually there is tons of evidence for it if you care to look into it. The internet is just full of it.

[Nahm]

You have to zoom out of you to understand and finally see reincarnation. It’s among the last. 

[Waken]

1 hour ago, Kailash Bhattarai said:

@Waken Ok i think i am going to read this book but still you can give me some bullet points. I don't care about spoilers. 

Sure, I'll just give a ramble about what I understood from various sources. 
Upon death you as the soul leaves the body, or rather the soul detaches itself from the body. Lots of souls here might be a little flabbergasted that there aren't dead, and notice that they can move around or teleport with intent. They get slightly pulled into this light tunnel then and at the other side they might meet up with their guide. They enter a review about their past life and maybe discuss it with another guide. Afterwards, they go to this vast (infinite?) space with other souls and go to a space/zone/'house' where a group of souls (between about 5-25) of like development and awareness are. These souls in this zone know each other from many past lives. Here these souls go to a 'school' (can look any way that's comfortable to the soul, and there is a more developed being/teacher here to assist), where they can evaluate their past lives and the choices they made in them, or go have some fun elsewhere.
Okay from here to planning the next incarnation I don't know in detail. But it seems the souls will plan their next life (together with their guide) based on what they want to learn, etc.

Edited July 6, 2020 by Waken

[An young being]

22 minutes ago, Waken said:

Sure, I'll just give a ramble about what I understood from various sources. 
Upon death you as the soul leaves the body, or rather the soul detaches itself from the body. Lots of souls here might be a little flabbergasted that there aren't dead, and notice that they can move around or teleport with intent. They get slightly pulled into this light tunnel then and at the other side they might meet up with their guide. They enter a review about their past life and maybe discuss it with another guide. Afterwards, they go to this vast (infinite?) space with other souls and go to a space/zone/'house' where a group of souls (between about 5-25) of like development and awareness are. These souls in this zone know each other from many past lives. Here these souls go to a 'school' (can look any way that's comfortable to the soul, and there is a more developed being/teacher here to assist), where they can evaluate their past lives and the choices they made in them, or go have some fun elsewhere.
Okay from here to planning the next incarnation I don't know in detail. But it seems the souls will plan their next life (together with their guide) based on what they want to learn, etc.

Would be fun if it happens! Life is a big school?

[Someone here]

@Waken address my points one by one with a reasonable response or just don't bother replying me. 

[Galyna]

21 minutes ago, Someone here said:

address my points one by one with a reasonable response or just don't bother replying me. 

?

[James123]

5 hours ago, Kailash Bhattarai said:

For all the account of people, Sadhguru, various scriptures in all religion it seems like reincarnation is a fact. If so how does it really works and how does the karma of this life transfers to the next life? 

There is no reincarnation, nothing is experiencing different vibrations as itself, and you call it infinite lives. You named the vibration and created the so called life. 

[justfortoday]

21 minutes ago, James123 said:

There is no reincarnation, nothing is experiencing different vibrations as itself, and you call it infinite lives. You named the vibration and created the so called life. 

You’re incorrect in saying that there is no reincarnation, since there is no self to reincarnate. 

The “self” won’t service, but there will NEVER be a moment that “Self” - just awareness itself, wont experience something.

And this POV, or “Self” with capital S is nothing experiencing different gradations of itself.

Because there is only 1 subject in the entire universe. 

[James123]

15 minutes ago, justfortoday said:

You’re incorrect in saying that there is no reincarnation, since there is no self to reincarnate. 

The “self” won’t service, but there will NEVER be a moment that “Self” - just awareness itself, wont experience something.

And this POV, or “Self” with capital S is nothing experiencing different gradations of itself.

Because there is only 1 subject in the entire universe. 

Every moment is self awareness itself. You are talking to yourself now, and breathing, eating yourself. That why nothing happening. There is no you in body to be reincarnate, nothing will can never be exist nor not exist, forget even to be reincarnated. There is no subject in the universe. There is no universe, you think you are in world now?  

Edited July 6, 2020 by James123

[justfortoday]

11 minutes ago, James123 said:

 There is no universe, you think you are in world now?  

Me? I am saying there is only 1 subject. And that 1 subject lives through each life. There is a subject at the center of each experience, and that subject is TRANSCENDENTAL.

 OF COURSE I do not think I’m in the world now. This is all a hallucination. There is no physical reality.

The transcendental “I” in you and I are the same being.

[James123]

5 minutes ago, justfortoday said:

I am saying there is only 1 subject

That subject is formlessness or nothingness. Thats why all is one, because formlessness can be formless and at the same time can take any form. So 

 

5 minutes ago, justfortoday said:

There is a subject at the center of each experience, and that subject is TRANSCENDENTAL.

This is nothingness.

 

5 minutes ago, justfortoday said:

he transcendental “I” in you and I are the same being.

This is nothingness. So where is the world, reincarnation, universe or enlightenment? You are not even in the body, because there is no body.  So how am i wrong with saying there is no reincarnation? There is nothing here, so where is the reincarnation? 

[justfortoday]

@James123 Don’t get cute with me on terminology. You know that what I am saying and what you are saying is the same thing.

Im saying that your POV and my POV are nothingness experiencing life, via 2 individual projections emanating from consciousness.

1 consciousness or server, infinity of POVs within it.

You and I are probes that God inserted into its own asshole to know itself.

Disprove me.

Edited July 6, 2020 by justfortoday