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Of course you can kill yourself and become God whenever you want, no one is stopping it from you (except for people stuck in the dual and who think it is wrong) But still it is not the full answer. Duality is a a gift. It is not as boring as the nondual. That is why God decieved himself and contracted his consciousness into a person, human, or animal so he could escape himself from himself and experience the great beauty and value of a human life, the love, sorrow, hatred, jealousy, strife, suffering, bliss, gratitude of having lived as a human and having loved your loved ones, your spouse, your parents, your mother, although they are not real, but still a momentary escape to that special connection is what God wants. If you experience the non-dual while being in the dual, you can have the best of both worlds, you can have a synergestic effect. Full blown nothingness is a great thing, but living in the junction of the dual and non-dual isn't a bad experience either. And if you kill yourself again not having realized yourself, then chances are you will again decieve yourself and be reborn again into something which you intruth are actually not, and you will be running around in this duality for god knows how long untill slowly you start to question who you really are. The only reason the nondual is sought, is to take a break from the suffering of duality which might be (percieved as) unbearable. It's like in a dream a tiger is about to kill you, and awakening is like "Chill out, this is just a dream". However if you are enjoying this dream (which is the purpose of self deception, suffering is the side effect), then non-dual is useless. If in the dual you feel great because you feel like you are the most smartest, handsomest, talented etc person in the world, then nonduality destroys this dream and you are back to non duality and you go "Wow, I wish this was real. It was such a beautiful dream" Also do you see the connections between, suffering, seeking the nondual and suicide? Why do people commit suicide? To end their suffering. Why do people want a escape to the nondual? To end their suffering. Seeking nondual turns you into a God and ends suffering. Suicide turns you into a God and ends suffering. Non-dual = Suicide (of the dual) Suffering is the side effect of the pleasure of the dual. Arthur Schopenhauer used to say that humans are capable of great suffering because they are capable of great pleasure. While animals or lesser forms (which Schopenhauer calls the brutes, who live only moment to moment, suffer moment to moment and have pleasure moment to moment, contrast to that of human) can have neither or lesser of the 2, their experience is not as intense as that of the human.

@Nahm I will follow your suggestions. I "Can't get there" was a thought afterwards, perhaps a thought that appeared while self-inquiry that was let go but during the self-inquiry it seems like I am close like I feel peace, but can't get there to "Nothingness", "Enlightenment". There's an existential fear that something horrible/bad will happen, my life will end or some bullshit. So your saying question it and let go?

@Jack River okay re wrote my answer 5 times. Let me know if there is anything wrong with it. I think there is, but I’m not sure which part I’m getting wrong. I think it’s does it have to be materially physical for it to exists and the answer is no, because form itself exists. Even the imagination of it makes it exists. But it’s delusion to say it exists because it’s material form and that material form is atoms and not nothingness, which is why we get this whole debate over everything being formless and not form. So nothing actually happened. It only appeared to have happened. “Beyond non-duality/duality conceptually” So to conclude, gravity is imaginary but it exists. it’s substance is formless, and that formlessness allows it to have form. In the shape of a thought. Which exists. Which is. Which is hallucinated/ imagined to be real. And can be proven not to be real, when you take the thought away. But it did not ever not exists. It existed only as a thought, which was nothing. ? ugg my brain needs an ambulance. This would be so much easier if my being was synced up. @Leo Gura I feel like I’m getting this twisted. But I’m not sure

Continue doing practises. Nothingness is not that. Trust me It's worthy pursuing Truth. Don't give up. Meditation is the way. If Nothingness is some nihilistic sad stuff and methods to realize it, would anyone teach it? Makes no sense, does it?

Happiness = Nothingness = You. But you’re employing the sneakiness of thinking sensation is in the past or future, similar to the tricky of thinking fun is a property of an object or place. WAKE UP!!!!

Ofc i want it to be some drama. Mby some forbidden love in that dream. But i mean i want to experience it so badly. But Will i ever? Prob not. To Good to be Good. Being nothingness Will be Nice because no suffering. But No great experience.

There is no direct experience of death, being born, being reborn, afterlife, or randomness. These are limiting beliefs, essentially veiling the living and realizing of the actual perfectIon of life, now. Also just maybe consider, you’re using the word nothingness as if it was something more than your idea of nothingness. Everything you want is wanted because you think you will feel better in the having of it. I’d at least consider the reversal of your paradigm, and consider the fruits of self discovery are far greater than ideals. If a thousand years seclusion with your perfect partner, in a world void of suffering, pollution, etc, were a better life, a better reality, you can bet that’s what there’d be. Consider, you might be missing a higher perfection, a deliciousness, which is right in front of you, a miracle to be revealed. The perfection of the imperfections. Life passes quickly indeed. Not fully living via a holdout for ‘the perfect life’ could be costly & regrettable. Letting go, leads to creating the life you want. Holding out for the ‘getting of the life you want’ - as a contingency for letting go, almost ensures life long suffering.

I was a seeker of Truth before I knew that there is such a thing as a 'path'. Around 5-6 years ago when I understood that science gives no definite answers to my questions I turned to philosophy. While reading Heidegger's Being and Time and inquiring into phenomenology of my being, I had a two-week long something that I later learned to be ego death. At that point I had no idea what had happened and began studying psychology and started psychotherapy. Some time after stabilizing my psyche I stumbled across Leo's videos about meditation and started practicing irregularly I learned about the path, enlightenment, and started studying mysticism. Mystical experiences kept occurring periodically. What I would consider my core practice is contemplation, becoming directly conscious of what something is. That usually requires sincere description of what I think of it and seeing if it is actually the case. That leads to 'enlightenment experiences'. Ultimately, all practices collapse into one indecribable thing which is best called 'present moment'. Few months ago, with contemplation, I became conscious of what I am, what the other is, what the world is and what is God. Fireworks were spectacular and I 'fell' into absolute nothingness which is absolute infinity. Recently I tried LSD for the second time with the intention of finding absolute love. The substance did deliver.

Sure, I also had a dream in which I died and there are no words to describe nothingness. Theoretically, when you die, you let go of all your earthly attachments. No one knows what happens after death but death is the opposite of life. It is said that death is the release of suffering because attachments bring suffering.

From my perspective, nope. Death has no consciousness. Consciousness is life and death is the opposite. There's no consciousness to be aware of nothingness. "Nothing" makes no sense when you're dead.

As I conceptually get it, yes, but not as you. There won't be any "I" there, thinking about it. I mean the current "I" i.e. the current "You". After death, SQAAD will cease to exist so you won't be somewhere as SQADD thinking "Oh, so this is what death is like", having also SQAAD's identity and memories. Maybe it will be something like a breakthrough on 5-MeO-DMT were you feel like floating (being) into an infinite void experiencing everything timelessly . Who knows.... At the moment I ve had only one breakthrough experience on Bufo Alvarius, saw the white light, got thrown in the vast nothingness etc. (similar as many people describe in trips or after life experiences), and I was thinking that if let's say I become very old lying in my death bed seeing my end coming, i would think "heh...let's see if it will be like that bufo alvarius trip". But as I said above, 'I' won't be there to experience it anyway. Or will I... ?

You are infinite Nothingness right now. When your body dies You Will "return" to Formlessness /Complete abscence of everything perceivable (Fundamental Reality/Infinite Love still remains). You are always it and you've always been it. We are Just waking You up. Don't want to freak You out but in Truth You are doing it.

Ok let's say that i die and i return to infinite nothingness from which i came from. Will i be conscious of infinite nothingess? It sounds like non-existence but you said non-existence is just a concept which exists...

Be careful not to limit God to nothingness. You are much more than that. When you become directly conscious that you are God you will realize you were perfect the entire time and you were living this life the entire time. It takes a lot more consciousness to see this though. So keep doing the work and the Truth will dawn

Trust me You do not want That. You want nothingness. Nothing Can compare no life no experience anything Can compare with TRUTH. Stay devil forever not my problem. Angels surrender and return to God.

@Nahm Will i everexperince that life? Ok Mby not 1000 years. But 100 years. I want to experience that life. And ofc nothingness Sounds Nice. But i only want it AFTER i had that life experience. Because then i have had the experience i want and can truly let go.

Then after that. Being nothingness Sounds nice. But NOT before that @Nahm

@SQAAD words are used to point out something that cannot be pointed out.It is just word preferance.Thats it. Nisargadatta Maharaj says there is nothing like not knowing. It is neither being or non being it is neither awareness or conciousness.It is not emptiness or nothingness.It is not witness.It is not knowing or not knowing. Words doesnt matter.Whats important is go with in and once realization happens everything will become clear. The problem is reading the books and trying to understand the wordless with mind. Getting caught in the word game. So final advice emphasized is start the practice.Dont ask questions.Dont Read books.Dont read books.Dont read books. Dont read dont feed the mind. Dont have questions or doubts and be desireless. When doubts come enquire who is having the doubts ? ------------------------------ 1.Pranayama. 2.Japa or meditation. 3.Self Enquiry. ------------------------------

That's right, God is Nothingness, and Consciousness is Nothingness too. The word consciousness is tricky. People use it in different ways. The way I teach, consciousness is the only thing there is. But the consciousness I speak of is not produced by any human brain or body. And it does not end.

@Leo Gura What do you say about Andre Doshim Halaws elaborations on consciousness in "God is Nothingness". He says that consciousness is dependent on the body and ends with it, as opposed to Nothingness which exists regardless as the formless, underlying foundation to the world of form, but ultimately one with form. He says: "Some readers may be wondering why I say that Awareness is not the Absolute(...). If pressed as to whether or not consciousness is the Absolute, I would say, that, Mind is not Mind , yet neither is it no-mind. (...) In Nothingness, there is some degree of awareness present -it is not how most people imagine brain death- albeit unconditioned, object- and subjectless. The Consciousness (for lack of better word) of Non-Being is so subtle that the moment we try to reflect upon it to check if we are conscious, we are jarred back into 'bein' and into our ordinary dualistic consciousness. I hesitate even to call this experience 'pure subjectivity' as that invites a metaphysical position that I am not willing to support.

@Inliytened1 when you say i am awareness or nothing. Is awareness or nothing an experience? Does self enquiry take one to nirvikalpa samadhi where the absence of body,mind and sense of me vanishes and experience of the 1.no-self 2. nothingness Then the final enlightenment or realisation Experience of the awareness or existence or suchness or isness happens ? Please explain in detail. ???

Yes. Perfection, Paradise, Heaven, etc. But Love is yet distinct from Perfection. You cannot reduce Love down to anything else, even though Love is identical to Truth / Being / Consciousness / Nothingness There are aspects of the Absolute even though it is ONE.

I can't integrate the duality between the aloneness and togetherness of reality and was hoping you could help me. And in the asking of that I feel very vulnerable because maybe I am wrong, maybe I'm attached. It's easy for others to get stuck on a technique that helped them to see their nature and have a breakthrough, how are you to cope on your own if that wasn't a technique but a person? Yesterday I was watching the river and there were these flies sort of bouncing along the surface as the river flowed beneath them and then my kid splashed them and I watched the drops of water merge and the flies scattered and just magically reappeared. Then we walked home and there across from the road the sun was straight ahead and it lit up all these flies that were dancing magically in the road as dragonflies ate them, and I saw that life itself is just a dance or movement and tricks of light. And it's as if to see the dance you have to stop moving and stay still and be the stillness that allows the dance to occur, but yet the stillness is incomplete, it is illusory separate from the dance, and you have to reenter the dance of survival and love. Leo and Winterknight are both mostly correct in their perspectives and need to be integrated within oneness. People don't understand that therapy is not therapy, psychedelics are not psychedelics. Nothingness is not nothing and love is not love. It's Schrodinger's horse, as we ARE the horse and we are sadomasochists.

Winterknight clearly said it is not no self and nothingness or emptiness.It is something beyond that which cannot be expressed in words.

@tsuki I get the message, you prefer playing with yourself. It seems to be a common condition around here. Leo thinks psychedelics and personal autonomy is the magic that results in awakening to Love. Winterknight thinks that therapy will result in awakening to Nothingness.