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OBEler replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura I dont know if this is related to your experience but I heard often from dmt trippers that this world we live right now is created and hold within alien minds. And these minds also are connected of course. They can do whatever they dream of and it becomes instant manifested and they love it. I am hyped of your course/video about this topic! Also I feel the normal spiritual people can get triggered by this stuff because they never heard about this and think it's just the drug. Common Problem.. -
Leo Gura replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I did not get a glimpse. I am Alien God. -
Leo Gura replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No. Alien Consciousness is Absolute. -
Byun Sean replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gurabut Leo. doesn't alien intelligence just mean encompassing all beings in the universe since the duality between humans and alien is imaginary? or maybe you just mean they are way more advanced than us? Did you get a direct consciousness glimpse into another alien's consciousness? That would be pretty sick lol. -
Eyowey replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's funny that you mention this. I woke up after a trippy nightmare today and I felt like my room was haunted. It felt like I was surrounded by some kind of control freak energy that wants to control me. And for some reason was able to see a different version of my desk with my eyes closed. I'm looking forward to the alien love video. -
Leo Gura replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Alien is not higher than God. God just is an Infinite Alien Intelligence. This is not some ego battle for who is higher. God does not need to compete with itself. How silly would that be? -
Pudgey replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If so, then all humans words and thoughts about spirituality is a joke, including even God-Realization. That would also mean that human God-realization is nothing compared to infinite-alien-realization? Meaning, you would need to transcend all human consciousness to transcend into infinite alien consciousness. God is nothing compared to alien, so Alien is higher than God? Conversely, Alien is just the beginning of spirituality instead of the other way around. So, humans-God is a subset to infinite alien. That would also mean everything here is effectively nothing compared to alien consciousness. This may also risk further confusion for others. Can't wait for course. Just thinking of it all. -
Leo Gura replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The most terrifying thing is when your mind expands into a domain that is completely Alien. I awoke so deeply I became conscious that my house it haunted. -
fictional_character replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura What you mean by Alien? How come this Alien Hyperconsciousness is more profound than God-realization? -
Leo Gura replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I am not talking about whatever you are talking about. It's very surreal and tricky. I am saying that there exists an entirely new order of Infinity, which is Alien Absolute Infinity. Alien Infinity is every possible alien intelligence all rolled into one. God is an Alien Mind. This Alien Mind is not finite nor dualistic. It is Infinite. Hence, Alien Infinity. All human spiritual is simply a joke next to this. The only serious spirituality is Alien Infinity. From now on this is the only spirituality I will teach. All human spirituality is trash. -
aurum replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Can you expand on this? It sounds like you're saying that a finite thing like Alien Hyperintelligence is dreaming up Absolute Infinity / God. That doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't Alien Hyperintelligence have to be a subset of Absolute Infinity? -
Leo Gura replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
God is Alien Infinity. The God/Infinity you guys know is not the real Infinity, it is just a dream within the Mind of an Alien Hyperintelligence. There is only one true Awakening, and it is Alien Infinity. I am the only Being on this planet who understands this. I have become an Alien Hypermind. I am over one thousand different alien minds interlinked with themselves in dimensions that a human mind cannot even imagine. -
Solipsism Notes “One who sees everything as nothing but the Self, and the Self in everything one sees, such a seer withdraws from nothing. For the enlightened, all that exists is nothing but the Self.” - Ishopanishad; Sloka 6, 7 “May I recognize whatever appeareth as being mine own thought-forms.” - Tibetan Book of the Dead Student: “How should we treat others?” Ramana Maharishi: “There are no others.” Anyone who claims the existence of other minds, or even allows them as a theoretical possibility, does not realize oneself as God. Introduction Definition of Solipsism Solipsism = Solis (Alone) Ipsi (Self) Philosophical idea that only one’s own mind is sure to exist Knowledge of anything outside the mind is unknown Self is the only existing reality and all persons are representations of the self Denial of existence of other minds Other minds are private and are inference at best Mankind and I gives negative connotations to Solipsism Start to wonder why Why am I biased against Solipsism? Why do I assume it is crazy or bad? Having a bias against Solipsism is unscientific and irrational Truth is the truth regardless of whether it is liked or not. Logic or improbability have nothing to do with Truth Be open to all possible worldviews until I arrive at Truth If I am interested in Truth, then it does not matter if it is Solipsism People make a mistake to assume and make a fact that it is impossible to know Truth. Solipsism deals with the nature of self but also nature of other. Other is the inverse of my self-definition What is other? What is self? They are inter-defined. Spirituality frames it as What is the Self? But the uncommon direction is to ask What is Other? Most people don’t contemplate what other is. Be open to the fact that I don’t know what other is. Other may not exist. If I change my identity of self, I change my identity of other. Infinite self makes no more room for other. My definitions of self and other are mentally constructed Is Solipsism True? Yes. Most people object to Solipsism because it is too crazy and radical. I can become conscious of what self and other are. Other is my own self and my own mind. My entire worldview and life depends on the notion of other. Other defines my self and my sense of reality. Awakening is realizing I am God and that I am the only conscious thing there is. Be conscious of everything being myself and that I am alone. God’s mind is alone and sovereign. I give partitions of other minds, but I fail to realize that I constructed all of that in my own mind. Other is my own construction. I am the only conscious thing in existence. There cannot be any other conscious being. There are not multiple conscious beings or souls or parallel lives or past lives or parallel lives. There is only my life right now. All the qualia and experience now is all that existence. I have 100% direct consciousness of existence. The issue is that I imagine other things to explain away the present moment. Outside of this dream is nothing and no-one but me. Mainstream notions of solipsism don’t include God, Love, Will, Intelligence, etc. My human self is part of the construction. My bubble of consciousness is all there is and nothing is outside of it. All of the qualia is my bubble. Life is a dream for an audience of one. It is a dream for myself. There is only one entity that needs to be fooled to construct reality. Myself. Why would there be other minds? Solipsism is the simplest explanation. How is reality created? Dream up self and other and fool myself Multiple animals being born are all the same self and not other to each other. Science cannot tell me what other is. Rather than having materialism and multiple minds, there is one consciousness that fools itself with images of other minds outside of itself. All things that I posit will always have a self-referential problem and infinite regress. It pushes problems down a level. There are no limits to what Infinite Mind can create. An atom is just as easy to create as an elephant. Mind does not need a big bang or years of evolution. It just imagines this human life and then a chain of causation of stories. As a kid, I asked questions of where am I? Where did I come from? My mind started filling in the blanks from society when I don’t know. The backstory becomes my worldview. Biology, history, science, etc. are all backstories to explain the present moment. I have given my authority to imaginary others. Others have an impact on my self. I assume adults know what they are talking about when in fact they went through the same thing as me. I am all that I have ever experienced in my life. Before I was born there was nothing. All that I have ever experienced was myself visual, auditory, emotions, thoughts, tastes, smells, touch, etc. I have never experienced anything other than my own mind, my own experience My experience is absolute Anything other than direct experience is speculation and inference All science and all others is part of my experience I am experience I have given my authority and trusted others more than my direct experience This is a problem. Trusting others is a second-order phenomenon. I have to first assume they are real and that they are in my direct experience. Trusting myself and direct experience is primary. Why am I so triggered by Solipsism? Why do I want reality to be different from Solipsism? Why do I depend on the companionship of others? Others define the self Solipsism is objective, denial of it is subjective and emotional reaction. Other can be minds and inanimate objects like external world. Can there be something beyond my experience? anything beyond my experience is in my experience No amount of thought experiments or science will always be in my experience. All of us are solipsists are already. But some go one dream further. We all accept that at night we dream and that they are solipsistic The entire dream and dream characters are a construction of my own mind. When I wake up from a dream, all other characters are all me. Do my dream characters have a mind of their own? How is reality any different from how I dream? I am dreaming right now, but I still cling to otherness. When I wake up from this dream, it will be just me and nothing else. Spiritual teachers say life is just a dream. There is a notion is that when I wake up from this dream, there will be others waiting for me on the other side. There is only one dreamer who dreams all other dreamers. I am very attached to dreaming. I am 100% responsible. I am constructing the entire dream. I am responsible for everything in my experience. “We are all atheists but I believe in one less God than you.” — We are all solipsists. My nighttime dreams are imaginary. Make that shift to all of my experience and not exclusive to my dreams. Nighttime dreams are grounded in daytime dreams. Nighttime dreams and reality is imaginary distinction. Solipsism traditionally is not tied into spirituality. But Absolute Solipsism is spiritual. Solipsism is essence of spirituality. Love, God, Will, Omniscience, Immortality, Eternity, etc. are all part of Solipsism. This dream is my own will and my own intelligence. All mystical/spiritual traditions point towards Solipsism. FAQs Enlightened teachers deny Solipsism they are not fully awake and not conscious how they are creating all sense of other Some may be conscious of this but do not want to tell people this because they want others to discover it for themselves. Solipsism is bad marketing and triggers people Ex. Ramana Maharshi was a Solipsist and says “there is no other.” Most people will not reach the highest levels Not telling kids about death and letting them figure it out - analogy Where do my ideas of enlightenment come from? teachers books from “others” Be aware of spiritual ego Goal: Have a complete understanding of reality Why does Leo even teach if I am the only conscious being? Playing a game with himself and do whatever gives meaning I am actually playing a game with myself Actualized.org is a dissociated part of my mind that I need to integrate The question isn’t why is Leo teaching me but why am I teaching myself? Does Leo have his own experience? There is only my experience. There are not other experiences. Leo is my experience. Why is Leo talking as if he has his own experience? Why is Leo tricking me? The real question is why am I tricking myself? Why did I construct Leo? I have to deny all identities to construct my identity and my dream has to be convincing I am God cosplaying as a human Finger pointing exercise: Point figure at the screen at Leo and then point it at me. Say Leo out loud when I point to Leo and me when I point to me (behind my eyes). Then after a while, point to me and say Leo and realize that Leo has always been behind my eyes. Everybody is my body. This is all a projection of my own mind. Stop imagining other people have experiences until all there is, is my bubble. That is awakening. I am imagining that other people are awakening. I have invented characters in the dream who awoken to give me an example. My imagination is so powerful that I believe others. Imagination vs. reality I can awaken to that I am imagining reality I imagine that others will exist after I die When I cease to imagine, everything ceases to exist. There is no world outside of my own mind Open my mind to the possibility that it is just me and everyone else doesn’t exist. I am imagining Leo is imagining me. I imagine Leo’s joy, awakening, pain, etc. All suffering that anybody experienced I am imagining in my own mind. I never experienced death, but I imagined many animals dying, and I assume I will die as well. I never seen death. I can imagine others and myself dying but I cannot die. When I realize I cannot die and I am immortal, that is the holy grail. The holy grail is realizing the death of everyone and myself is a construction of my own mind. Solipsism isn’t contradictory. All denial and objections and everything is part of the dream. There is no escaping the dream. Angels, demons, Santa, etc. are no different from humans and animals. It is just part of my dream. It is dogmatic to state that it is impossible to know. All other minds are sub-minds to my infinite mind. If Solipsism is true, I am avoiding it and everyone is avoiding as a conspiracy to help me avoid it. If Solipsism was on CNN, I would either already wake up or I would avoid CNN. Society is geared so that I can remain asleep. My mom says she has an experience of her own. Is she lying and being an evil demon? My mom is not an evil demon trying to fool me. I am God fooling myself using my mom. All dream characters will deny they are dream characters so that I remain asleep. If not, there is no dream. My mom is not faking it, I am faking it. There is no mom, there is only me. There is only me deceiving myself so that I can exist as a human. If not, I would die and stop existing as a human. God creates others so it creates itself. The only conspiracy theory that matters is my own self-deception. It is a conspiracy of one. I am conspiring myself during my dreams. All other conspiracy theories are sub-conspiracies within the meta-conspiracy. I am doing this to myself. Reality isn’t a simulation, it is a dream. Simulation still has a sense of other like an alien or other reality or something. It pushes the problem back another level. Where did the aliens and simulation come from? What are the odds that I am the only one in existence? The odds of me being conscious are 100% Everything I have ever experienced has always revolved around me. What if I am not an accident but an absolute? If I am the only one, where did I come from? I have always been and have imagined all places and invented stories Nothing can be conscious but me. A dog and Leo being conscious is what I am imagining. One day, I can imagine my computer being conscious. It will be just another character in my dream. Is the suffering of others real? No. There is only one conscious being who suffers and it is me. Where has suffering ever existed? Suffering only exists in my mind. If I kick a dog and it wimpers, I am imagining that. I am imagining the dog’s suffering. If I torture a dog in my dream and wake up, where is the dog’s suffering? Suffering is a mechanism to keep myself asleep. Suffering feelings very real in my direct experience and in others. Life has serious consequences to sell the illusion of the dream How could I construct a dream so well to fool myself? Make suffering so overwhelming that I would never do any existential questioning. I am creating a drama. What makes a good movie is the drama. Why do I watch action movies? I crave distraction and I want immersion. I cook in a video game for immersion to simulate life and have a game. The world is boring without evil. It is to construct a powerful illusion. Think of self-deception in an existential manner. Self-deception constructs reality atoms, evolution, science, space, time, other beings, planet earth as metaphysical self-deception All philosophy and spirituality goes out the window with pain. Pain is part of the dream to keep me locked in the dream. If suffering is imaginary, why not be selfish and harm others and be a devil? No reason at all. There will always be consequences in this dream for my selfish behavior. My dream can turn into a nightmare. I am dreaming. What kind of dream do I want? A nightmare or Heaven? A long road ahead of suffering if I am selfish God creates the dream to teach itself about how to live (for Love) Since I am in the dream, why not create the best possible life? True goodness and love is when I am even nice even when I know others are an illusion. Love and goodness don’t need reasons. There is no reason why a life of suffering is worse than a life of joy. Solipsism is unfalsifiable because it is absolutely true. It is verifiable Is it safe and logical to assume other minds? Is it practical to assume other minds? Practical and true aren’t always the same. It is convenient to live the dream but it is not true. Nonduality is Solipsism Nonduality is Oneness and is Absolute Solipsism There is so much untruth because truth is dangerous. Truth is dangerous in every domain in life Often times, the most dangerous things are true because most people care more about truth than survival. Society is an illusion If I find truth, I sit alone and contemplate and not go to others and to the herd I can still socialize even when I know Solipsism is True The Truth of Solipsism is beautiful. Leo goes to parties has sex, etc. because it is his dream I am imagining and he enjoys it. Enjoy the dream. Should we be openminded to other minds? start being openminded and then close off my mind to things I have become conscious of that are false Become absolutely conscious to where I no longer have doubts Openminded all the time can be closed off to being close-minded. Be closed-off to positions I have validated as false in my direct experience. Truth is more important than openmindedness Being openminded to everything is a trap because that means I don’t get anywhere Does God have the power to create other minds? This contradicts God’s omnipotence God is one. God has the infinite power to dream up many minds within its own mind. God cannot sever its own oneness because God is One. How to verify Solipsism 200+ 5-me0 Trips and do all the practices to deconstruct my mind the trips could kill me How do I know 5-me0 is not an illusion? How do I know anything is not an illusion? Don’t misuse skepticism and go test it. The real cult is mainstream society, spirituality, and materialism but most of all, my own self-deception. Become conscious of Solipsism and not believe it Nobody will verify that I am all alone. Humans need a degree of socialization. Don’t use Solipsism as an excuse to be a loner. Self-Understanding is the highest happiness and end of suffering The highest happiness is realizing I am God Conclusion What is other? Contemplate what is other. Don’t take solipsism on as a belief. Find out what is true. This is a hypothesis till I can verify for myself. Stay with what is true in my direct experience. Think for myself. Important to not fake it till I make it. It can create disfunction. True liberation is freedom from the illusion of other. “Hell is other people.” - Satre I am Alone because I am so together. Love is togetherness. The illusion unifies and not separates. It’s like God has multiple personality disorder and when God is one, God connects back to it Self. Being Alone means I integrate all parts of myself together into a unity. Love is Unity, Oneness, and togetherness. The illusion unifies all the sub minds together and not separates. There is a lot of bullshit out in the world. Awakening is basically Absolute Solipsism
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Danioover9000 replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@julienw @nuwu You guys don't have to make this complicated. Just go play the Metroid series, Super Metroid, Metroid Prime Trilogy and so on. Alien love right there. -
julienw replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I'm also extremely curious about this, and how it is known to be Alien Love versus standard Infinite or Absolute Love. @Leo Gura please enlighten us. This is just too juicy and radical. -
Danioover9000 replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ultimate alien love, to me, means Metroid zero, Metroid ASMR, Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2 Echoes, Metroid Prime 3 Corruption, Metroid other M, Metroid 5 Dread, and the upcoming Metroid Prime 4. All of that is alien love to me, because I love exploration, discovering power ups, and platforming games. Not some nebulous, ambiguous and abstract hyper dimension Neptunia game of hyper alien intelligence, but something down to earth like Metroid. Of course, I'm not talking about UFOs, reptilians or Greys. -
Danioover9000 replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@QandC Super Metroid, that's what alien love is. -
Kalki Avatar replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@QandCBecoming an alien in love. -
Osaid replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I remember I tried asking for clarification on his use of the term "omniscience" in his alien mouse thread but he skipped over my question unfortunately -
Razard86 replied to Joscha's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Very unique post....question....if Dream Leo tortured you....and turned into some demonic alien that strapped you to a table probed you anally for a million years while screaming at the top of his lungs that everything is love!!!.....Would you still thank him? ^I know this sounds silly but I am actually honest about this question. Why? Come on man you can't go thanking Leo for your Dream Leo....lol. Waking Leo has no clue what Dream Leo is up to!! LOL!! He should probably add to his disclaimers IF YOU SEE ME IN YOUR DREAMS, WAKING LEO HAS NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT DREAM LEO ENGAGES IN. LOL!! -
Hojo replied to DualityHurts's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@newbee he knows way more than he is telling. He holds himself back to not sound crazy. Not like leo haha. You will probably not here sadhguru talk about the time he became or saw alien. -
Sadghuru comes to mind. Upon contemplation, "the good life" is a somewhat nebulous term. Honestly, at this point, for me, the good life is probably just getting my base survival needs met, so like, financial freedom. And then maybe finding some passion to pursue. A lot of rich and traditionally "successful" people come to mind, however, I know that these guys probably have a lot of different problems gnawing at them in the background. I guess the most holistic bigger picture answers are people like Sadghuru or Leo Gura. But really, for me personally, anyone who is really rich financially and are pursuing their passions are people I would deem as being part of the "good life", but I am also aware that this perspective will probably change once I burn through my stage orange karma. Considering the pfp changes every minute, probably not, unless they are some alien shapeshifter
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Razard86 replied to Holykael's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This right here ^. I have recently went through some personal hardships and my lack of fear of death is actually getting me through it. I have reached a state where I don't care either way and it makes panic....impossible. Panic only exists when you avoid either physical pain, emotional pain, or death. If you can accept all three (physical pain would be one of my weaknesses) but I can deal with emotional pain and death that would be the level I would suffer at. The path is all about facing these three and then you will be liberated. Its all an illusion at the end of the day, and its an illusion of your own making. You also both have free will/ and don't at the same time. The will of the universe is unconditional love, if you align yourself with that....then you won't suffer. At the level of resistance you have with unconditional love is the level of suffering. Give up rational thought, and focus on realizing that the present moment IS DEATH, the PRESENT MOMENT IS WHAT YOU ARE, THE PRESENT MOMENT is UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. Stop resisting, and feel into the present moment then you will realize, just maybe....THAT you are actually controlling everything around you. EVERY SINGLE THING. Everything is connected to you, you are even controlling me right now typing this comment. The ego is the filter that infinity is expressed, but the ego is just self imposed limits of the SELF. As you blink, breathe, grow your hair, grow your fingernails, the same mechanism that controls ALL THAT, is the same mechanism that is controlling the entire universe and all life forms, even that alien that Leo APPARENTLY became lol. Its all you, there is NO OTHER. So as long as you PLAY the victim role...that is the role you will suffer. -
Danioover9000 replied to Space's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Space I think the following: If it's fake, then great tech and editing skills for the video maker. If it's not fake, then the aliens are showing off, or the UFO is on another observation mission or something. But talk about unscientific aliens. These beings are supposed to be hyper intelligent, so why show yourself more when you could use alien telescopes or alien tech like the Predators do, cloaking technology or something to conceal yourselves? Just not so smart aliens to me. -
RareGodzilla replied to StarStruck's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
It's pretty funny how in one way the far-right hates islam because it's an alien culture to the west. But in a way they still recognize that it's a deep stage blue value system and is something they themselves desire. I feel that they are a little bit jelous. Being deep stage blue in 2022 must be kinda lonley in the west. Even the mainstream church seems like a liberal feminst organisation at that level.