PlayTheGame

Leo saying sadhguru is not awake

393 posts in this topic

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

 

@Derek White Insights can come spontaneously without questioning, but they are much more likely to come when you actively question.

 

Yea.

It’s hard cause thinking also causes a lot of our problems. So it’s easy for... the lack of a better word... our ego... to completely discard it and feel relieved. It takes a lot of awareness to think without hurting oneself. Not identifying with thoughts.

@LfcCharlie4 Many of the other teachers it seems are teaching people to be happy and satisfied by connecting with being. Sort of like, being at peace no matter what the outside situation is. Leo’s includes that but he goes further in a sort of a scientific way. Besides he resonates with me, it’s hard to resonate with Sadhguru who’s really old, has been naturally conscious since birth, been working for the past 3 life times, etc. etc. Plus he doesn’t even talk about spirituality nowadays, his content is a lot more social and political in nature. If you have a teacher that you think you resonate with you more than I would love for you to share it. Pm me if you don’t want to share it publicly.


“Many talk like philosophers yet live like fools.” — Proverb

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So much hamster wheel running,...haha, being transcends it....awareness is freed from the 'vice'. Awaken to being aware.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@Derek White Yeah I wasn't saying Sadhguru, he has to water down so much due to the nowadays billions he speaks to, I'll PM you, but like I said if you resonate with Leo, stick with it! 

I just found 1-1 sessions with teacher so helpful and effective :) 


'One is always in the absolute state, knowingly or unknowingly for that is all there is.' Francis Lucille. 

'Peace and Happiness are inherent in Consciousness.' Rupert Spira 

“Your own Self-Realization is the greatest service you can render the world.” Ramana Maharshi

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

10 hours ago, electroBeam said:

You guys just need to do the practices and stop worrying about what Leo thinks, or what anyone thinks on this forum.

Your direct experience > opionions of others.

did you mean 

your opinion > opinions of others ?

because i can tell you right now — that’s a trap. not saying you wanted to express that but some people will still recive that as the ultimate truth. not saying it could not be changed although changing that would probably be one of the awakenings only a change of perspective could make you change into which is only achievable by change of perspective into understanding that opinion has not much to do with awakening, although it has.

Edited by remember

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Artaemis said:

@Preety_India @Anna1  

The feminine techniquely isn't 'untrue' since both masculine and feminine are always valid. However in this corner of the universe 'identifying the other as God' is untrue. Since there are no others but Self. But the feminine naturally manifests that spiritual quality so it is equally valid and true as the Self.

Also I'm a girl.

5 hours ago, Preety_India said:

Lot of word salad. Pfft!! 

The feminine/masculine labels stuck on these two approaches mean very little, but help to explain and separate two approaches. Masculine says "I am God, I seek truth". Feminine says I am creation, I seek love. Yet there is no Truth without Love. And there is no Love without Truth. 

Like in the story of Narcissus, masculine is Narcissus, Feminine is echo. There is neither narcissist nor empath, male or female, each is only embodying part of the whole, creating the other as a pointer to wholeness. 


Light on Earth "Don't turn your head. Keep looking at the bandaged place. That's where the light enters you.
And don't believe for a moment that you're healing yourself.~ Rumi

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, mandyjw said:

Masculine says "I am God, I seek truth". Feminine says I am creation, I seek love. Yet there is no Truth without Love. And there is no Love without Truth. 

Who made these approaches? This forum? 

Which school of thought? 

Which book? 

Smh

 


J̸͟͞u̸͟͞m̸͟͞p̸͟͞ s͞t̸͟͞r̸͟͞e̸͟͞e̸͟͞t̸͟͞ j̸͟͞u̸͟͞m̸͟͞p̸͟͞ s̸͟͞t̸͟͞r̸͟͞e̸͟͞e̸͟͞t͞ 

🅗🅔🅐🅣🅗 - 🅜🅨 🅞🅦🅝 🅒🅞🅒🅞🅞🅝 🅞🅕 🅛🅞🅥🅔 🅐🅝🅓 🅟🅔🅐🅒🅔

My twin Flame guardian is a Dragon. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As per my thinking, I recognize masculine and feminine as 2 energies that control the flow of the universe 

 

Masculine for protection. 

 

Feminine for care and growth 

 

 


J̸͟͞u̸͟͞m̸͟͞p̸͟͞ s͞t̸͟͞r̸͟͞e̸͟͞e̸͟͞t̸͟͞ j̸͟͞u̸͟͞m̸͟͞p̸͟͞ s̸͟͞t̸͟͞r̸͟͞e̸͟͞e̸͟͞t͞ 

🅗🅔🅐🅣🅗 - 🅜🅨 🅞🅦🅝 🅒🅞🅒🅞🅞🅝 🅞🅕 🅛🅞🅥🅔 🅐🅝🅓 🅟🅔🅐🅒🅔

My twin Flame guardian is a Dragon. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@Preety_India You? Me? God? No one? Seeking credibility in authority kind of defeats the purpose of spirituality and integrating the two, doesn't it? If something doesn't resonate skip over it. The further you go sometimes the stranger the analogies, symbolism and language gets. Every statement is a half truth, so if you react against it as false it's helpful to take a step back and ask ourselves what in us brought about a reaction. 

The entire purpose of an insight is to both feel and know at the same time, it's where knowledge and love and being come together. If we spend our time just looking for stuff that doesn't fit into what we already know or are willing to consider as valid, we don't get new insights. 

 


Light on Earth "Don't turn your head. Keep looking at the bandaged place. That's where the light enters you.
And don't believe for a moment that you're healing yourself.~ Rumi

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, mandyjw said:

@Preety_India You? Me? God? No one? Seeking credibility in authority kind of defeats the purpose of spirituality and integrating the two, doesn't it? If something doesn't resonate skip over it. The further you go sometimes the stranger the analogies, symbolism and language gets. Every statement is a half truth, so if you react against it as false it's helpful to take a step back and ask ourselves what in us brought about a reaction. 

The entire purpose of an insight is to both feel and know at the same time, it's where knowledge and love and being come together. If we spend our time just looking for stuff that doesn't fit into what we already know or are willing to consider as valid, we don't get new insights. 

 

I wasn't trying to seek credibility. Just trying to know how it came about. 

Because if it came about from someone, it would mean it is just someone's opinion and not an empirical fact. In that case I need not worry refuting it. 

It's like my brain creating an idea out of fantasy and it doesn't need to be the truth. It could be accepted by others but it still won't make it a truth. 

It's almost like me saying water represents strength. But for someone else a mountain might represent strength. 

Ideologies and beliefs and theories and concepts are just that.... Hogwash. 

 


J̸͟͞u̸͟͞m̸͟͞p̸͟͞ s͞t̸͟͞r̸͟͞e̸͟͞e̸͟͞t̸͟͞ j̸͟͞u̸͟͞m̸͟͞p̸͟͞ s̸͟͞t̸͟͞r̸͟͞e̸͟͞e̸͟͞t͞ 

🅗🅔🅐🅣🅗 - 🅜🅨 🅞🅦🅝 🅒🅞🅒🅞🅞🅝 🅞🅕 🅛🅞🅥🅔 🅐🅝🅓 🅟🅔🅐🅒🅔

My twin Flame guardian is a Dragon. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Preety_India said:

 

Ideologies and beliefs and theories and concepts are just that.... Hogwash. 

 

Mental masturbation is a pandemic but thankfully the death rates are low. Not sure on the recovery rates though 😁🙏✌

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

@Preety_India @mandyjw wait gals opinion and perspective are two different lenses. a concept for example is sometimes only a a pattern like lense you put in front of your eye to compare it to what actually is. a comparison compares two or more perspectives or concepts to find which gives the most accurate picture of that which is lying underneath the concept/perspective/and then ultimately  opinion will form, if you take a stand towards either this or that.

sometimes two perspectives don’t have to exclude each other but build an inference.

Edited by remember

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, Bill W said:

Mental masturbation is a pandemic but thankfully the death rates are low. Not sure on the recovery rates though 😁🙏✌

There's only one person who ever mentally masturbates, because what other people are thinking is a concept or thought in your own head. So if you see other people who are doing it, guess who actually is? Not them. 

 


Light on Earth "Don't turn your head. Keep looking at the bandaged place. That's where the light enters you.
And don't believe for a moment that you're healing yourself.~ Rumi

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, electroBeam said:

No that's not contemplation!

Contemplation is asking a question, and doing concentration awareness on the answer Lots and lots of fucken concentration and focus on the answer. In other words, deconstruction. 

Just for fun, try that minus the concentrator. Write the question, focus on it, and then literally let it go and just go do the funnest thing that comes to mind. Literally forgetting the question. Just saying give this a go. Absence is a heck of a ‘deconstruction’. :) “Give it to God”, maybe God “gives it to you”. Forgetting & remembering. Full Send! Full Receive! So sweet. Love ya. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@remember :x 

Still love your avatar by the way. Good to remember. 


Light on Earth "Don't turn your head. Keep looking at the bandaged place. That's where the light enters you.
And don't believe for a moment that you're healing yourself.~ Rumi

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@mandyjw hahaha, i loved the interference react, respect, respond :x 🙏 shanti shanti y’all

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 minutes ago, Nahm said:

Just for fun, try that minus the concentrator. Write the question, focus on it, and then literally let it go and just go do the funnest thing that comes to mind. Literally forgetting the question. Just saying give this a go. Absence is a heck of a ‘deconstruction’. :) “Give it to God”, maybe God “gives it to you”. Forgetting & remembering. Full Send! Full Receive! So sweet. Love ya. 

@Yog@Yog(hhow to delete tags dunno sorry) 

😂 Pls kind sir just pls. In midst of greatest joke ever. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

33 minutes ago, Nahm said:

Just for fun, try that minus the concentrator. Write the question, focus on it, and then literally let it go and just go do the funnest thing that comes to mind. Literally forgetting the question. Just saying give this a go. Absence is a heck of a ‘deconstruction’. :) “Give it to God”, maybe God “gives it to you”. Forgetting & remembering. Full Send! Full Receive! So sweet. Love ya. 

hahahahahahahahaahha just tried it :) 

Edited by electroBeam

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What I've learned so far in this thread:

   Main issues: who is really awakened, who isn't? How do we know any one teacher is truly awake? All teachers and their teachings are false? How do we verify for ourselves without losing too much time? Also issues about authority to teachers and students. Issues on misunderstanding awakening from other states, enlightenment, paranormal experiences ect.

   Side issues that seem random, coming out of left field: masculine and feminine and what governs truth/untruth(possibility/impossibility), how to do contemplation properly, being a personal god vs an external god, solipsism, nihilism, questioning existence and sentience, the whole Viper's nest of trying to word, define and re-define God for yourself, using language magic to divine god, touching on ideas and beliefs as mind viruses that spread, reconciling old beliefs with new ones, and how God practices on different universes and how you've done this once upon a time too.

   Also the issue of threads getting off into tangents on other issues that hardly have anything to do with main issue.😂

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@LfcCharlie4 We will continue to deconstruct reality in future videos.

This deconstruction is useful whether you want to use psychedelics or not. Even more fundamental than psychedelics is contemplation and deconstruction. The psychedelics are only lubricant for contemplation. The point of the videos is to provide a guide for deconstructing the mind and carefully questioning reality.

You can question reality with or without psychedelics. Of course you'll get a lot further with them. But even without them it's still good.

Even if you choose to meditate or do yoga, you will still need a hardcore questioning of reality. You can't just be a sheep and do practices without questioning.

I posted a website in the high Consciousness resources that may or may not be helpful...

Ajata sunyata (Robert Wolfe) the recognition that even Oneness and the absolute are ultimately illusory.

Nothing from the very start...

I shared it with a few people... it's very well written... easy to understand...

Read the essays!! 


“Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle.

"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge."--- Daniel J. Boorstin

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now