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Just my 2 cents Head voice = ego, superego, and uncontrolled imagination Heart voice = awakened conscience and purified emotional center In spiritual sleep, conscience is buried in the subconscious.

TWO AND ONLY TWO PATHS-------------------------------------------UC's response on Manas da's post on yogi and devotee------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ As we have two Self---------the false Self (ego) and the real Self (inner self), there are only two basic paths, diametrically opposite----- the path of surrender and the path of will. But they reach to the same goal.--------------------------------------------------- The path of will starts with the inner Self. To be aware of our acts, is directly concerned with awakening our inner Self. If the inner Self is awakened, the ego disappears. If the light is brought, the darkness disappears.----------------------------------------- The path of surrender is directly concerned with the ego, not with the Self. When the ego disappears, the inner Self is awakened automatically. When the darkness goes, the light shines.------------------- The yogi is on the path of will and the bhakta is on the path of surrender. The yogi is trying to be aware and the bhakta is trying to be totally lost. -UC K

Weird haven't watched this dude in a while, used to be really good as he interviewed some great guests and asked thought provoking questions, even liked his documentaries. Did he have this in him all along or was it something Dan Pena awakened and fueled because he was nowhere near the person he was now like 2 years ago

By 'argue' I mean discuss politely, of course. I'm looking for honest opinions; backed up with actual experience. Not the usual 'there is no I or other' type of comments. I'm obviously speaking of relative matters here. So if the above mentioned statement is true; you becoming awake should result in an awakened collective, instantly. The moment you're enlightened; everyone is enlightened. Flawless, real-time synchronisation. On the other hand; the idea is that once you awaken; the game continues on another level. Your job now is to spread your Light, your love and your wisdom and assist in the awakening of the collective. I myself am kinda neutral here atm. Maybe leaning a bit more towards the second idea. I've had experiences where it seemed as if me being super conscious meant that everyone around me was too. It seemed as if everyone knew damn well exactly what was going on. They did not use words to tell me directly that they're all God, but it was as if they were conscious of it. No matter what was being said or done. Then again; I've also had experiences where it seemed as if I was far more conscious than everyone around me. This would imply that there are levels and degrees to consciousness. Which many disagree with. Would you say that we live in a 'enlightened world' right now? Apparently; there are many enlightened beings on our planet. How come the collective is not there yet then? How come there are teachers/gurus who teach others about all this awakening stuff? Wouldn't that be unnecessary if all they really needed was to wake up themselves? Or could it be that they are not truly awake? Is it perhaps how they keep on waking up themselves? By seemingly assisting the awakening of others? I think these are some very interesting thoughts to entertain. Let me know where you stand. ...Unless there is no you, no other and no world. In that case rest in eternal silence. Thanks.

Persistent baseline non-duality (I initially hesitated to write that, idk why), meaning ~95% of the time (or when blood sugar is stable). It's essentially when you stabilize around the most basic experience of no self. So-called "awakened people" stabilize right below that threshold and may dip in and out ("awakenings"). This is still just the most basic level. There are deeper levels (various maps and disciplines have described this), and in some sense, it's infinite.

As I've shared before, I find little value in esoteric explorations. I don't discredit them, I just don't see them as helpful for spiritual growth. Levitating "for real" doesn't lessen suffering, or develop unconditional love. The Buddha didn't teach most of what he knew. He restricted his teachings to the dharma, or the spiritual path out of suffering and into enlightenment. Seeking a miracle will never deliver true freedom, which is only directly realized from within. Siddhis are supernatural powers, which some rare few are capable of. From my perspective, they can be dangerous, unless someone is truly awakened, because there is a significant risk that they will amplify the ego. It is easy to fall into the trap of feeling special when one is gifted in a particular siddhi. Specialness is the calling card of the ego, and the opposite of awakening.

Hello there :-) Since reading Ramaji 1000 and written several forum posts here to discuss levels of consciousness and what it really means, I couldn't resist booking a RASA-session out of curiosity! I'm not sure if I really agree with the LOC-system, but I feel that the spiritual teachers are sincere so want to give it a go. I will post about my impression afterwards! As I've written before I think I'm somewhere in the 500's because I'm an intense spiritual seeker since 10 years back. My work is about helping people and I'm a great manifestor. Things flow through me. I still suffer from feelings of extreme inferiority (not often, but it happens) and low self worth even it's mostly gone. Meditation is not great though, I wonder if that's a requirement for being an awakened being? I replace meditation with a lot of self inquiry and journaling.

I don't know where to post this, but it's about "kriyas" (sponatenous movements caused by kundalini energy). This singer is what you could consider a one in a million natural talent, but what I'm interested about is her hand movements. It reminds me very much of kriyas in the sense that they're fast-paced, smooth and erratic all at the same time. Might she have an awakened kundalini? I tend to get a really a substantial "contact high" so to speak from listening to her. Maybe she was born with it as well (could explain her unique talent and personality). I know of one other person who claims he was born with an awakened kundalini (Jan Esmann), and he is a professional hyperrealist painter, extremely talented.

I've made the most progress with a therapist that is green/yellow that does MDMA therapy and psychedelics. I personally look for someone spiritually awakened. It may not be the case for you and if someone that isn't helps you that is great. I personally have felt emotionally cold and neglected around CBT heavy stage orange rational therapists. They are at a stage where they aren't emotionally developed enough to give the reflection I look for in a therapist. Not for me, transpersonal from here on out but not someone who is cringy tryhard overly positive green. There are spiritually awake, mature yellow therapists out there. Takes time to find though.

@ShugendoRa I've been scammed by awakened beings. Imagine what a tarot girl would do.

How about the millions of natives/ancestors who fucking loved psychedelics to the point they were in many cases central parts of their culture? Stop giving a shit what these disconnected & ethnocentric “nondual” teachers say in all scenarios. They have a system or ideology to promote and are aligned against anything outside of that whether they are awakened or not. Just one example — the Aztecs called psilocybin mushrooms Teonanácatl. This means either flesh of the gods or flesh of god.

therapy with a conscious professional who is holistic and accounts for spirituality in their practice and has awakened themselves. the modality itself usually isn't what is most important I've found.

You mistake yourself for actions, thoughts and others philosophies. How do you know that you are the devil? Because you do things that are out of alignment with your desire to be kind & loving? Does that not tell you that your basic inclination is Love? That what you really want is to love your brothers and sisters, including yourself? Does not sound like a devil to me, more like a case of mistaken identity. You are trying to understand that you are God through intellectual understanding. It won't happen. God is prior to intellect, and also prior to everything anyone ever says. I do not care who says it. God is prior to what I say too. You are not the devil. You are not God either. You do not exist. You are only a fiction in the mind, and so is Leo, and me. Can you for a moment seize striving? Seize trying? I really mean it. What if you do not need anyone's conceptual understanding or framework? No matter how lofty and beautiful. Trust in The God Within to guide you instead of humans. Yes, humans are a manifestation of God, but humans are not God any more than plants are. Everyone and Everything is God, yes. But only God is YOUR God. Only God is ultimately reliable, and always True. Humans are wonderful and fickle. We keep changing our minds. We have loads of opinions and assumptions. Even "after" Awakening we carry a lot of our notions and beliefs with us, and translate them into "Awakened" lingo. God Within you is your Guru and True Teacher. God may (and does) teach you through "other" human beings. All are your teachers, but only God is The Teacher. Talk to God, your Heart, your True Being. Tell Him (I like the word Him, but obviously God is him/she/it, all of it and none of it) that you want to come to know what your Heart already knows, knowingly. Ask to see what God sees. Ask God to show you that you are already God and to take you beyond all concepts and ideas. Including the concept and the idea of you. Just remain open, and keep talking to God. Forget about the "how's" and the "why's". Remain open, willing and innocent. Like a Child. A Child of God who wants to know its Source and Origin. Who longs to know The Truth that only God Is. Surrender to your Inner Being, do not surrender to anyone else. Do not surrender to me. Only to God. Read this with an open heart and a mind that is willing: http://heavenletters.org/the-one-god.html

I’ve already said that I rightly belong within some category of rednecks and there is a wide variety of categories. The same goes with Academics. Leo raked Academics in general over the coals pretty good in his last video. I put in that little preamble/disclaimer, what ever it is, so I could take the opportunity to pile on. In his book Higher Being Bodies, Ocke de Boer discuses the differing views of two well known Dutch Scientists. One a cardiologist and the others neurologist. When the neurologist starts making fun of the cardiologist for stating that consciousness can be seen apart from the brain and he begins to comment on spirituality, Ocke says he begins to embody a strange mixture of arrogance and humbleness— so often to be found in academics. That little quote really stuck with me. Probably because I got a big chuckle out of it This is the section of the book where Ocke is discussing the scale of Being. Human #4 is someone who has balanced their centers and is awoke somewhat.Human #4 knows that they are in Plato’s cave. This is a big achievement. Humans #1, #2, and #3 are lopsided in one of the centers, instinctual, emotional, or intellectual. Anyone who is awakened, which are humans #5 #6, and #7 knows that real intelligence means the position of a phenomenon in the scale of Being, and the influences to which this phenomenon is open in relation to higher worlds. They also know that they have to hide, if they don’t want to be pecked to death. For anyone who has studied Gurdjieff or the Fourth Way, I highly recommend Ocke de Boers two books. Higher Being Bodies and Two Souls. If you haven’t already studied Gurdjieff’s Works, I don’t think you’ll get much from them. I have to confess though that I’m somewhere between believing and knowing Some of the phenomena I know, but not all.

The best for humanity is that politicians say that they want, spiritual master wants you to wake up. i have listened to shadguru many times and I always see that he treats you like a child. waking up is not for you, for you there are certain practices to live better. true awakening is for higher beings, like him, who remembers his reincarnations in which he had a guru, and that is why in this life he has awakened without a guru, and the superpowers..... do you believe it? It's your decision.

Has anyone else experienced this "Uno reverse card" in thinking? When I first started doing practices to discover my true nature, I scoffed at and scrutinized Leo's videos, thinking "Well if it's really true, how the fuck can a person even know it?! That's impossible!" Deep down I felt like it was really possible, I was just resisting. In the beginning, I thought "how can reality feel different than the 'separate self' way, as a human body 'here' and the world 'there,' that I am familiar with?" There's a lot I could say about the middle part of "my" journey, but let's just fast-forward to today. Over the past few days, I've had a feeling that I am the whole entire experience arising in front and behind my face, complete with ZERO control. It reminded me of the jokes people make about awakening: "It's like jumping out of an airplane and never having a ground to land on." But now, I am thinking, "Wait, how come 'this' isn't obvious?! It's the most obvious thing ever! Once you've crossed that non-existent boundary between not knowing 'this' and knowing 'this,' you have the feeling that it should be common knowledge that we are 'born' with. Complete reversal from "You can't know that," to "How do you not know that?" Shocking paradox... Can anyone relate to this? I've been having lots of internal resistance to these deep insights over the past few days. I do not consider myself enlightened, but I've had some big and small glimpses, and last night was one of them. My mind was blank, I was speechless, and I felt like I couldn't do any "practical human stuff." Is there anybody reading this who thought they awakened 'too early in life.' (I know that might be a silly question for a number of reasons, but I'm seriously questioning whether I should take a break from spiritual practices for a bit. On the one hand I feel like it's too late and 'my life' has already ended. I am D-E-A-D, and I just need to accept that. On the other hand, I feel like I'm going insane because I'm constantly thinking about awakening-stuff, when I have all of this human stuff I want to focus on too.) Much love~

Kinda hate to break it to ya, but you’re focusing on thoughts & beliefs which don’t feel good to you... which don’t feel good...because they are...off...and using “awakening” or “having awakened to young / early” as the reason. It’s not the reason, it’s just that the thoughts are off. Humble pie tastes like liberation, the recognition control, death, etc, are thoughts, while reality is pure spontaneous infinite love. Rather than ‘coping’ as a remedy... inspect the non-resonating thoughts directly...and it is found there is nothing in need of coping with. “Epistemic truth paradox” is also just one thought...which can be inspected, scrutinized, realized, as there ultimately are not any paradoxes.

@Carl-Richard this is awesome This decade we will constantly see “more” awakened Actors, athletes, celebrities etc etc Of course we can’t have more as we are all that! ? But, more will become conscious of their own being, and I can’t wait for it!

I don't agree. Mania is like a high. It can be addictive just like a drug. Are you able to maintain that "awakened" state? Or do you afterwards fall into a deep depression?

I respect your sincere pursuit of truth, and your desire not to insult other people. As I see it, the degree to which someone feels offended is an indication of their ego. If someone has truly awakened, why would they ever feel insulted in the first place, given that the nature of the realization is that we are all the same Consciousness? Is it possible to insult yourself? You mentioned that you have had profound insights about reality. How do you reconcile those insights with the realization that as humans we know nothing? My answer: Direct insights arise from Consciousness, and are non-conceptual. As humans, we can know nothing conceptually, except that we know nothing. We can only directly realize truth, free from concepts. You don't come across as feeling superior to others because of your personal insights. Perhaps others, who have had insights along the lines of what Aldous Huxley mentioned, similarly don't feel superior to you. To the contrary, the very nature of the core realization is that we are all the same, and there is no inferiority/superiority

@Leo Gura I think I see more of what you mean. When we look at the future through a doomsday lens we are basically being victims. We are working toward being powerful creators and every thing is just perfect we just need to increase our awareness to see it. Forgive me Leo when I fall asleep or get lost. I know you know how big and hard this is for us as we grow into fully awakened Gods. I feel like I am just becoming online and I still have ups and down. There are so many Axioms to develop and states to maintain. I am the planet so, just trust in God.

that isI @Moksha this concept and claim that I hear every day from many different people of “being awake”, I find very egotistical and delusional, I really am not trying to be rude or disrespectful, but that is how I see it, you can expand your consciousness and gain wisdom and even reach a certain state of mind that changes your reality or become conscious of your infinite awareness, but I assure you that there are many many many more insights to get and knowledge to gain and higher levels of consciousness and I’m sure that there are many truths about reality and existence that nobody has ever come close to realising, I’m not an awakened being or an enlightened man but I’m sure there are many things that I could teach you that would drastically change your view of reality and I’m sure that there are many many things that you could teach me that would drastically change my view of reality, god bless you and spread kindness and understanding ?✌️

that is a very good and thought provoking reply and made me think, it comes across as being very honest and rational, but I have been studying philosophy and the nature of reality for many many years passionately, and I use truth extremely mindfully and regimentally , and that includes any time I get egotistical, I know I’m not of higher than average intelligence but my strict promise to truth and extreme open mindedness plus obsessing about reality makes up for that, people who know me always say I’m really clever but I know I’m not, I’m often the last person to get a joke and I’m terrible at maths for example, the reason I say this is because as the years go by the lonelier I get because of the profound insights I have had about reality, it’s extremely lonely, but I refuse to say that it’s because I am awake and they are not, that is an insult to my fellow human beings, I have just experienced states of consciousness that i can never forget, but I know 100% that as a human being we know nothing and to claim to be awake and to have experienced a state of consciousness that leads us to believe it an ultimate realisation is narrow minded, almost everyone answered my question with a spiritual cliche, we can talk humbly, if someone asks you what part of the brain deals with vision, you can just say the frontal cortex or wherever it is without saying who is asking the question or the brain isn’t real or some other we have all heard before, you can just answer ?‍♂️ @Moksha this concept and claim that I hear every day from many different people of “being awake”, I find very egotistical and delusional, I really am not trying to be rude or disrespectful, but that is how I see it, you can expand your consciousness and gain wisdom and even reach a certain state of mind that changes your reality or become conscious of your infinite awareness, but I assure you that there are many many many more insights to get and knowledge to gain and higher levels of consciousness and I’m sure that there are many truths about reality and existence that nobody has ever come close to realising, I’m not an awakened being or an enlightened man but I’m sure there are many things that I could teach you that would drastically change your view of reality and I’m sure that there are many many things that you could teach me that would drastically change my view of reality, god bless you and spread kindness and understanding ?✌️

@allislove I am rumi? @integral I @Moksha this concept and claim that I hear every day from many different people of “being awake”, I find very egotistical and delusional, I really am not trying to be rude or disrespectful, but that is how I see it, you can expand your consciousness and gain wisdom and even reach a certain state of mind that changes your reality or become conscious of your infinite awareness, but I assure you that there are many many many more insights to get and knowledge to gain and higher levels of consciousness and I’m sure that there are many truths about reality and existence that nobody has ever come close to realising, I’m not an awakened being or an enlightened man but I’m sure there are many things that I could teach you that would drastically change your view of reality and I’m sure that there are many many things that you could teach me that would drastically change my view of reality, god bless you and spread kindness and understanding ?✌️

@Moksha this concept and claim that I hear every day from many different people of “being awake”, I find very egotistical and delusional, I really am not trying to be rude or disrespectful, but that is how I see it, you can expand your consciousness and gain wisdom and even reach a certain state of mind that changes your reality or become conscious of your infinite awareness, but I assure you that there are many many many more insights to get and knowledge to gain and higher levels of consciousness and I’m sure that there are many truths about reality and existence that nobody has ever come close to realising, I’m not an awakened being or an enlightened man but I’m sure there are many things that I could teach you that would drastically change your view of reality and I’m sure that there are many many things that you could teach me that would drastically change my view of reality, god bless you and spread kindness and understanding ?✌️