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  1. Standing up to a group of terrorists.
  2. @Raptorsin7 Water and rest, my friend. Hope you'll get better soon.
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  4. It's not, really. When a contradiction is occurring within the same post, then something is wrong, and it probably doesn't have to do with context. I updated my thread to clarify this point. I'm not gonna enter this debate. It's pointless. I am talking about science and how theories get created. If that is irrelevant to the truth, I don't know what isn't. I know you probably think that you're referring to the absolute truth, but actually what you're referring to is a concept of absolute truth. Again, I'm not gonna enter this debate. Materialism vs. Idealism. Not interested in that here.
  5. Another absurd claim. Let's dig in... We'll start with the most obvious. @Leo Gura please stop contradicting yourself all the time! It's not good for your image. One day there aren't brains, the next day there are. In this case, you're actually contradicting yourself in the same post: "There is no Peter, self-inquiry, contemplation, nor meditation, but there is serotonin and awakening." Get this: If you believe that there is a brain with serotonin that mediates its functionality at the rock-bottom of reality, that makes you a materialist. Period. Actually, this "serotonin" thing is the one of the few places where "there aren't brains" apply properly. Serotonin is as real as an atom. It was constructed like the periodic table was. So it is a theory, not a real "distinct" thing that exists in reality. This conflation makes me question your understanding of science. It's a false-equivalency fallacy to equate psychedelic states with meditative states. You are not the author/owner of states of consciousness, so just stop pretending to be so. It's so much for someone who understands the hard problem of consciousness and rather sides with the solipsistic pov. There is no evidence that psychedelics produce awakening. Most established teachers suggest that they actually don't. And they're at least twice as old as you are. Even if you're correct about psychedelics/neurotransmitters, you're still incorrect to claim that all awakening boils down to altered states, as I've already explained in my other thread. This conclusion is false regardless of how you arrive at it. Like, how do you even prove that awakening is real? And even if you somehow can, then how do you know what produces awakening? Even if you can somehow prove awakening as an objective thing, or if we just let it slide your way, where is the evidence that awakening is even remotely related to serotonin or DMT or any other substances? Where are those statistics and clinical studies? I remember that you once said that awakening cannot be forced. It's more like trying to get hit by a lightening, and we can only increase our chances. I actually agree with that perspective. You can do better than to keep using childish words such as "foolishness". They add no value to your input and only highlight your trigger and attachment points. __insert proper conclusion for the thread (not gonna).
  6. According to non-duality, there both is and isn't a difference between reality and imagination. It's a mistake to only say that there is a difference, and it's also a mistake to only say that there isn't. But that's just non-duality. And it's true and false at the same time, according to itself.
  7. Hum alongside the bass to enter an altered meditative state.
  8. So sexy 😍🍆💦
  9. Probably group-think and generationally-inherited dogma. I don't think the states you mentioned are high consciousness states, rather just altered states with relatively/mildly low levels of consciousness. Keep in mind that most of these Hindu-Buddhist stories originated before science, so the probability of delusion is pretty high. Science contributes to less delusion/more consciousness, which the stories lack. Here's a more down-to-earth explanation for what I said above: No-mind states have nothing to do with high consciousness, in fact they have more to do with low consciousness. You can be highly conscious and still think, more properly and effectively even. Meditative states with no thoughts/perception are just altered states. Oneness is not a high consciousness state. It's low consciousness, because it doesn't allow for duality. Non-duality is a higher state than duality, because it allows duality, includes, and transcends it into oneness, unlike pure oneness. So that's a pre-trans fallacy. Ken Wilber refers to this phenomenon of mistaking lower states for higher states as elevationism. High consciousness is an integral thing. The more refined, well-rounded, and holistic your understanding of reality is, the more conscious you are. You can't just drug/alter your way into high consciousness. It's not possible.
  10. I use the words "higher" and "lower" rather poetically in regards to consciousness. In reality, we can't quantify consciousness, nobody can. Any claim of higher levels is purely subjective and does not pass the objective test. Though, there are objective tests for lower consciousness levels, such as Glasgow Coma Scale. You can determine the level of consciousness of a person through using certain criteria based on the sober conscious state. But you can't measure higher levels of consciousness because there's no standard to contrast your current state against. Though, you can create your own standards. For example, in my opinion, the main criteria for higher consciousness are (1) functionality and (2) peace of mind. The more you achieve of both together in a maintainable way in the long run, the more conscious you likely are. If you have either of them at a high level but still lack balance of the other, then chances are you aren't at high consciousness yet, but likely half-way through. This has been my experience, at least. And all the signs point to that conclusion. So back to your questions, I don't think you can hold high consciousness while drunk, but that does not suggest even slightly the possibility that other "drug-or-otherwise-high" states can hold more consciousness than the sober state. I have found that the optimal state is the sober state. The more pure and unpolluted it is, the more consciousness it can hold. "High" states are often more creative but come with the risk of delusional thoughts. You will not believe how many delusional thoughts I have gained through "high" meditative states then filtered out of my mind. This recognition becomes really clear on the comedown. In my experience, it's been hard to tell what thoughts are delusional during the high until recently.
  11. @Loba Did some cleaning up for ya. Hope you'll enjoy a more seamless experience 😘
  12. @BipolarGrowth Altered states is a distinct thing from high consciousness states. You can have altered states with low or high or average consciousness levels. And you can have sober states with low or high or average consciousness levels. They are two different parameters. An altered state with low consciousness doesn't produce awakening. It produces delusions. Altering your state of consciousness is not enough if you lack awareness.