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Today I watched "Enlightenment Guided Inquiry - The Neti Neti Method" Meditated for 18 minutes. Read for 2 hours

It could be said that all questions resolve into the singular question asked by sages like Ramana Maharshi: "Who am I"? Neti neti is an ancient tradition of inquiry, where the personality is unpeeled layer by layer, like an onion, until only the Self remains. Meditation is an effective parer. When you realize the Self, within yourself, questions disappear and there is only lucid living. You no longer fear or desire, beyond the thinnest veil, because you are that close to waking up entirely from the dream.

Enlightenment Guided Inquiry - The Neti Neti Method https://youtu.be/Oq4NDMNDzSs Introduction to enlightenment guided inquiry using the neti neti method from Advaita Vedanta Neti neti means "not this, not that" and is a process of elimination towards enlightenment This method is not for those new to the concept of enlightenment, but can be effective for those who are clueless about it The goal of enlightenment is to discover one's true self Most people think they already know who they are, but there is often ignorance about this and a lack of consideration for the possibility of being something other than what is already believed The purpose of this exercise is to create the possibility of being something other than what has been believed the entire life This requires an openness that most people cannot stomach The goal is to have a direct experience of one's true nature, not to change beliefs It is important to understand that the words being used do not have a connection to the experience itself The goal is to use the words as a springboard for the direct experience It is important to relax and let go of the ego, as the ego is the barrier to enlightenment The ego is the idea of being a separate individual It is important to let go of the ego in order to experience the unity of all things The ego is also the source of suffering It is important to let go of attachments and identification with the ego The process of neti neti involves repeating "not this, not that" to eliminate all possibilities of what one is not The goal is to reach a state of pure consciousness or "I am" In this state, there is no ego and no separation It is a state of pure bliss and unity with all things This can be a difficult process, but it is worth it for the benefits of enlightenment. The speaker asks the listener to close their eyes and notice the darkness that appears The speaker then asks the listener to open their eyes and observe the colors and shapes that appear The speaker then asks the listener to close their eyes again and notice that the colors and shapes have changed The speaker points out that sight, or visual experience, is constantly changing and therefore cannot be what the listener fundamentally is The speaker then asks the listener to consider if they are a sound, but points out that sounds also constantly change and therefore cannot be what the listener fundamentally is The speaker then asks the listener to consider if they are a taste, but points out that taste also constantly changes and therefore cannot be what the listener fundamentally is The speaker then asks the listener to consider if they are a smell, but points out that smell also constantly changes and therefore cannot be what the listener fundamentally is The speaker then asks the listener to consider if they are a touch or sensation, but points out that touch and sensation also constantly change and therefore cannot be what the listener fundamentally is The speaker concludes that the listener cannot be any of these senses or experiences, and asks the listener to consider what they are if not these things. The "I thought" is not constantly active, so it cannot be the "self" The "body" is a combination of feelings and thoughts and is not constantly active, so it cannot be the "self" The "intuition" is a feeling or thought and is not constantly active, so it cannot be the "self" The "perceiver" or "source self" is not an experience and cannot be found through examination The self is not a body, mind, brain, neurons, feeling, intuition, thought, or experience The self is a question mark and the true nature of the self is unknown The speaker has completed a guided visualization and is now discussing the potential outcomes One outcome is that the listener had a direct experience of nothingness This experience is rare and may take a lot of work to achieve Most people's minds are too closed to have this experience If the listener had a direct experience of nothingness, it may be scary but is ultimately positive If the listener did not have this experience, they should keep questioning their assumptions about reality and locate themselves in space The speaker claims that this practice is profound and can be done repeatedly to eventually "discover empirically that you are nothing" The speaker encourages the listener to be open-minded and continue this practice until they have a breakthrough The speaker's theory is not just a personal belief, but something that can be empirically proven through this practice The speaker encourages the listener to share their experiences and continue exploring the nature of reality

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Sounds like the solipsism awakening. All of Us Are One, Unified, Intelligent Infinity. Solipsism is a facet of Absolute Truth. However, it is not Absolute Truth. It is a story. Solipsism is a story like any other story God tells itself. Keep going. Neti Neti. "I am the only one." Says the "I Am" but there is way more than just the "I Am" story. The "I Am" then feels infinite loneliness or despair. But this only makes sense in the context of an ego. A human ego, reacting to Infinite Unity and reacting in its biologically programmed ways. Seriously, it's not like God didn't figure out the solution to solipsism a long time ago. The ONE is impersonal. It's the multiplicity of infinite perspectives within the whole that brings variety. Reality can be ALL-ONE and infinitely-many at the same time. God wouldn't have it any other way. You get to have your cake, and eat it too. There are Infinite perspectives viewing themselves from every angle; totally unified as One Being. Loneliness is just a temporary experience, a fleeting perception. I'm as real as You Are, for I Am You. The solipsism awakening is valuable one for sure, but don't get stuck here either. Keep going. For it is here that one discovers unconditional Love for All Beings, as They Are You. This bond is infinite, and unbreakable. Infinite Love. Infinite Unity. Here's the video Leo released in response to his video on Absolute Solipsism. The thumbnail alone says a lot. Here's a quote from The Law of One on Infinity. The flip side of Infinity is Unity. Infinity is ONE. Also check out these alien-leo-kangaroo-rat renders I made in midjourney.

TMDMTEB developed by Micheal Langford It's 2 hours a day, similar to Leo's and Ramana Maharishis method. Its similar to self inquiry, neti neti, concentration, and I AM, meditations.

Meditation has been a path to enlightenment for millennia. Neti neti is an ancient practice of deliberately diving into the mind, discarding what is realized not to be your true essence, until only you remain. When meditation is mastered, the mind is unwavering like the flame of a lamp in a windless place. In the still mind, in the depths of meditation, the Self reveals itself. Beholding the Self by means of the Self, an aspirant knows the joy and peace of complete fulfillment. Having attained that abiding joy beyond the senses, revealed in the stilled mind, he never swerves from the eternal truth. He desires nothing else, and cannot be shaken by the heaviest burden of sorrow. - Bhagavad Gita 6:19

The fractal nature of infinity - a solipsism trap for the human mind. This post is not meant to discredit or nullify anything. On the contrary, I want to show you that the expansion and evolution of consciousness (or in consciousness) is like a Russian matryoshka, like classes in school. What follows it does not override what precedes it. When you initiate the process of becoming aware of the nature of Infinity, your assumptions as to what Reality is always doomed to be reconstructed with each new discovery, and this process will never end. The question is, did it have any beginning? I do not know. Contemplating the Infinite transforms your thinking - from linear to nonlinear to spherical. At some point, I realize that looking for the smallest (first) or largest (last) fractal is like looking for the beginning and end of a circle or sphere. I can play around with indefinitely scaling the size of a circle, sphere, or object. I can scale linearly, logarithmically, or chaotically whatever my heart desires. And here, at this moment, when fun, meditation, contemplation, and ordinary everyday life suddenly meet in my magical Now - something I cannot put into words - everything exists. The only thing is an existence born of Consciousness, in Consciousness. Everything is and is not at the same time. Such a superposition of Nothing and Everything. Neti, Neti. I can squeeze everything down to the size of a zero-dimensional point - one of the infinite paradoxes of infinity here - something that has zero dimensions does not exist and exists simultaneously. As a thought, a concept, it is also existence. Infinity breaks the human mind, it is non-human. We are afraid of it and avoid it at all costs. When you experience the Universe within you, the ego quickly captures and conceptualizes the experience. For your own safety, that is mine and yours. But scaling happens in both directions. Suddenly, it slips away from everything you know and goes towards a border that it will never cross, and yet, a border may be there. And behind it, another, greater Infinity. Or less! You can't get it. Figuratively, although it does not reflect what I feel - the wave is only a manifestation of the Ocean, an expression of its activity, but to be the Ocean, it must surrender its existence as something in motion, changing, experiencing its shores and borders. To feel this Infinite Depth, Space, one has to be ready to cross all boundaries, even those whose existence we have not yet realized. There are infinitely many of them. Apart from what is human, there is also the Alien. I recommend the document below - it's a bit too skeptical and too scientific for me, but worth a look anyway till the end. ...and go for Infinity by any means available for human beings and beyond Sat Nam

Neti Neti

Much better practice than "neti neti". Thank you sir.

You Are Infinity! You Are ONE. All is ONE. You Are. You Are Pure Energy. Light is magnetically attracted to Itself. Light is magnetically repulsed by Itself. Repulsion is Attraction. Light = Love. Love = Light. You Are Pure Motion. You Are Perfect Stillness. The Universe Is A Singularity. You Are The Singularity. The Infinite Mind imagines the brain and body. Your bigger brain is of cosmic proportions. Also add: The inverse of every realization listed. Absolute Infinity goes beyond realizations, too! You Are God. You Are Also Not God. There is No Self. And Yet... ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Neti Neti.

I agree with Leos comment that this part of Buddhism is not God Realization. Its the basic teaching from the first turning of the wheel. Ken Wilber also clearly says that insight into Ultimate Reality didn't occur at that stage of Buddhism, it was a insight and experience of the causal stage (Godhead, pure consciousness, but not world/apppearance arising within that), not Nondual Realization of Ultimate Reality. (And experience of Nonduality is not automatically realization of Ultimate Reality). The realization of Ultimate Reality (the imagination or manifestation part) occured later, at Nagarjuna, and the second turning of the wheel, and was only clearly formulated philosophically with the third turning, the Yogachara or Mind-Only school. If you want some really iconoclastic thoughts, read that the founder of Jainism has practically the same story/hagiography as Buddha, as explained in Mike Crowley in "Secret Drugs of Buddhism: Psychedelic Sacraments and the Origins of the Vajrayana", and draw your own conclusions concerning the historic Buddha. So who knows who had which realization back then... Looking at the literature these systems produced, one can make educated guesses. A quote from Ken Wilbers "Integral Buddhism": "The idea is that Buddhadharma (Buddhist Truth) has itself already undergone three (or four) major evolutionary Turnings in its own Teachings, according to Buddhism itself. The First Turning began with the original, historical Gautama Buddha himself, and is preserved to this day in teachings such as the Theravada. The Second Turning was introduced by the genius Nagarjuna, around 200 CE, with his revolutionary notion of shunyata, or the radical Emptiness or “unqualifiability” of ultimate Reality (which could be said neither to be, nor not to be, nor both, norneither—the idea being to clear the mind of any and all concepts about Reality so that Reality in itself could be directly experienced), a notion that became the foundation of virtually every Mahayana (“Greater Vehicle”) and Vajrayana (“Diamond Vehicle”) teaching henceforth. The Third Turning occurred with the half brothers Asanga and Vasubandhu, and is generally called the Yogachara school, sometimes referred to as the “Mind-Only” school (which agreed with Nagarjuna that ultimate Reality was Emptiness, but so was ultimate Mind). This teaching became a central foundation of the great Tantra and Vajrayana (Diamond Path) teachings, which particularly flourished in such places as the extraordinary Nalanda University in India from the 8th to the 11th century CE, and continued unabated in Tibetan Buddhist schools—and, indeed, many Buddhists consider Tantra and Vajrayana to be a “Fourth Turning of the Wheel.” Also in Ken Wilbers model the realization of Ultimate Reality started first with the second turning of the wheel (Nagarjuna), which was not descriptive at all but pure neti-neti, pure emptiness, pure not this - not that. The Yogachara-School, or "Mind-Only" school, changed that. To quote Leo from a previous video "Reality is a giant Mind". The Yogachara-School is very in line with that. "This teaching became a central foundation of the great Tantra and Vajrayana (Diamond Path" (see above). Also Mahamudra and Dzogchen evolved out of that. The Yogachara-School (or the lines influenced from it most) today is not Theravada, it is not Zen. Parts of it survived for example in Tibetan Buddhism. In my view and experience there are the most sophisticated meditation systems of the planet, see the writings of Daniel Brown. He practically translated all of the secret Tantric Hermit Yoga Stuff. For the most efficient meditation system on the planet (at least in my view), see his Mahamudra-Book "Pointing out the great Way", and his subsequent Dzogchen-Books, where he translated for the first time with permission from Menri Trizin all the secret stuff. The Yogachara-School, or "Mind-Only" school, is most in line with Leos view, as far as see it. The Tibetan Traditions, like for example Dzogchen and Mahamudra, continued to evolve, and that is why we can read something like the Supreme Source, see my first reply in this threat, coming from these traditions. In my view, much of the Supreme Source is also in line with most of Leos perspective and his experiences and realizations. So when it comes to looking for God-Realization in Buddhism, maybe in these schools one can find the most. But even then, one has to read between the lines. But Buddhism then in some traditions developed backwards, lost its sophistication, as here very clearly (and surprisingly harshly) said by Ken Wilber on Zen for example: " But there were, nevertheless, still more unfoldings to occur. Particularly by the 4th century CE, the question had become insistent: granted that the Absolute cannot be categorized literally in dualistic terms and concepts, is there really nothing whatsoever that could be said about it at all? At least in the realm of conventional truth, couldn’t more systems, maps, models, and at least metaphors be offered about Reality and how to realize it? Already, in such brilliant treatises as the Lankavatara Sutra, the answer was a resounding yes. The Lankavatara Sutra was so important it was passed down to their successors by all 5 of the first Chan (or Zen) Head-Founders in China, as containing the essence of the Buddha’s teachings. In fact, the early Chan school was often referred to as the Lankavatara school, and a history of this early period is entitled Records of the Lankavatara Masters. (Starting with the 6th Head-Founder, Hui Neng, the Diamond Sutra—a treatise solely devoted to pure Emptiness—displaced the Lankavatara, and in many ways Zen lost the philosophical and psychological sophistication of the Lankavatara system and focused almost exclusively on nonconceptual Awareness. Zen Masters were often depicted tearing up sutras, which really amounted to a rejection of the 2 Truths doctrine. This was unfortunate, in my opinion, because in doing so, Zen became less than a complete system, refusing to elaborate conventional maps and models. Zen became weak in relative truths, although it brilliantly succeeded in elaborating and practicing ultimate Truth." So what do we have today when it comes to Buddhism? Theravada, which is a successor school of the schools of the first turning of the wheel, see above. Didn't really participate in the second and third turnings, which explains why its philosophy doesnt really reflect the sophistications of these systems. Here I agree with Leo. Still the meditation methods of these systems work for some if you do them long enough. Zen, see the comment of Wilber above. Tibetan Buddhism: They have in my opinion the most sophisticated meditation techniques, because they continued developing new methods, and contain the Yogachara Mind-Only perspective. The wording is of course not contemporary, one has to overlook a lot of "medieval" stuff, for example the cosmology of Tantra and so on. But even that can be understood and be put into perspective with something like the Supreme Array Sutra, Osto: https://psychedelicsangha.org/paisley-gate/2019/5/8/the-supreme-array-scripture-a-psychedelic-stra-for-buddhist-psychonauts-pp3zz The above overview is for sure not complete. So not all schools/systems of Buddhism have the same level of development, sophistication and efficiacy concerning meditation-methods and views on reality. Personally, I feel that some compassion with some of the traditions criticized in the text above helps me to keep a benevolent feeling towards them. But it should also be clear what the limits of the system are, and how efficient each is, and how good its view is. Ken Wilbers comment on Zen (above) was helpful for me, because I had the same feelings when I compared for example Zen and its anti-intellectualism (which also has its place in the right context) with Mahamudra/Dzogchen. I believe in our lifetime we will start to see which systems "score" in producing realized ones, and which only get lucky in collecting genetically/karmically privileged ones for their own tradition. The efficiacy of a system is getting not only the the karmically/genetically superstars to the finish-line, but normal talented ones also. The Ramanas and Anandamayi Ma of this world always get to the finish line. The real challenge is getting normally talented ones to realize their true nature.

LEO changed my whole LIFE it all started with one afternoon. i had just a little curiosity about what is reality. i thought that reality is might not be as it apears to be. so i just went on searching in youtube "what is reality". thats when i come in contact with leos video titled as "what is reality" . i just watched his video in awe. i couldnt digest what he is saying. because i never heard anything like this before, but i had this intuition in me. its so radical. it shook me at my core. i really greatful watching that video until today. and i had nothing to do with my life in particularly. i was 22 and i was following a course. and i had more time. so i watched his videos as many as possible. i was getting exsited, and amazed what he is saying in each video. these are some videos that mostly changed me "what is reality" "self bias" most effected video so far is "open mindedness" "what is truth" "what is conciousness" "how to discover what is true" "actuality" "recontexualization" "contemplation" all most every video i watched. i took everything so literally. it broke my mind. it broke my worldview, and everything i beleive. i didnt took anything as truth after that. i remember watching tv with my mom and asking what is tv. ? i saw everything as a question. i was also contemplating at that time. as i was watching these videos, i was came in contact with this particular video where leo explains the self i considered to be me is just a negative space carved by its surrounding. i couldnt watch this video. when i was in half way through in this video, i just had to stop the video. i had this very strange feeling in the body mixed with great sense of fear of non existence. and i stopped the video and went for a walk, and finished the video after. something phenominal happened that day. it felt like some part of me died. and i was intuitive that i am not who i thought i was. but i didnt know who i was. in one video, leo mentions a technique called "neti neti" technique. so i searched for it. and i watched it with open mind. but nothing happened. i just kept watching that video again and again to find out who i was. but nothing happened. and i end up in frustration, anger, hopelessness. and i just wanted to stop all this thing with truth seeking and focus on my life. so i decided to stop all this, after giving it a one last chance. so i took a pen and paper, and sat down with the frustration. this time i didnt took anything from anyone. i just contemplated my experience. i didnt took leos word for it. i just asked who i am and explored my experience.. and in one point, i just realized that i am not my body, mind, or whatever i thought myself to be. but i am the experiencer. and it just occured to me that, if this experiencer is not present, then there wont be anything. and with that realisation, my mind and body went crazy. i literally felt like i was dying. im not over exaggerating this. it literally felt like i was dying physically. my body is vibrating like crazy. my heart pounding. i was alone at home. my personal self disappeared. and i was shivering, and vibrating. that experience lasted for half an hour and gradually went away. and i was left with this beutiful sensations in the body and crystal clear mind. its like you went most rush and noizy city from complete silent sound proof room. man, there is nothing in this world that i can compare with that experience. its so beutiful, so profound, i just cried like a child for how long i dont know. there is no other word that i can call it other that "BLISS". after all that, i went to sleep that day, and i was never slept. i can sense that my body is sleeping. but i was fully awake. i was totally aware of my surroundings. i didnt wanted sleep so much, because this experience is so beutiful and satisfying. i woke up early in the morning to meditate. but there is no any tiredness or anything like that. everything is just so easy. and i went for a walk. everything is vibrating with bliss. and i listened to a song, that felt like im in heaven. i never had that experience before when i listening to songs. this experience happened two years ago. and my life completely changed after that experience.but that experience lasted only for a week. and went away. but my understanding in the mind never went away. only the bodily feeling went away. understanding remained. i had my second experience when i was noticing this awareness, while watching rupert spira's video about awareness has no inside or outside. i deeply explored that with my experience. and i just felt like i was everywhere. i literally felt it. i was everything and everyone, not as a idea, but experiatialy i knew it. i was my mother, my father, my sister, and i was leo too. that experience took me more deeper. and i remebered the leos videos about this. and i said to myself "this is what he says again and again. finally it happened. it is real." i wanted to write this long time ago. but never had the chance.The one thing that leos videos different from others is, he explains everything with in very details, so anyone can uderstand what he is talking about. even he stumbled upon his videos for first time. he has a unique way of teaching. All i wanted to say is, to say big thanks to leo.. a.k.a "ME". i am so greateful for finding his teaching. and i couldnt beleive this free and people are not interested in this. thank you man. keep doing your brilliant work to awoke people from this dream.

I think there were numerous useful points you made here. I don't feel competent enough to speak on the non-duality points you made in terms of whether Leo's claims are accurate or not. The way I tend to see it is that when it comes to non-duality these days Leo behaves more like a philosopher than a mentor. It seems to me like he is concerned with gaining more and more insight, and just sharing that insight. However, it seems to me that he has already made quite a lot of content on non-duality. Both in terms of based on his own conclusions, and also the teachings of numerous others, i.e. neti-neti. I agree with you regarding Leo's style of communication on the platform. I think he is repeatedly abusive in many of his communications and I feel upset that it continues. With regards to the forum, I think you are looking at the forum through a stage green lens. I have repeatedly been conflicted about whether to continue using the forum or follow the channel on multiple occasions. However, I believe I am of a greater understanding of why the platform is as it is. I think its because actualized.org is designed to be a stage yellow content provider, not stage green. And to be effective the actualized content will need to appeal to people at all sorts of different stages, i.e. red, blue, orange, and so people will be attracted to the forum from various different levels of consciousness. A stage green platform, to my mind, would cater really well to stage green folks. However, I don't think it would be so useful when it comes to drawing in lower stage people. For example, the why I hate men/ women debate wouldn't, to my mind, make sense in a stage green forum, but it does in a yellow one because if you cancel out those debates the people from that level of consciousness, to my mind, will end up leaving. Now, whether the forum actually manages to effective do spiral wizardry to get folks up stages of consciousness I think is a different matter. I think the Leo and the mod team tend to drop the ball when it comes to that. Regarding other minutia, and how the lifestyle of the west isn't that great. I think that is a stage green perspective you are holding there. To my mind, its important to get healthy integration of all the stages of the spiral. If you go to india I imagine you will find lots of beautiful spirituality over there. However, I also imagine next to the ashram you will find people dying in the streets. The west, to my mind, has serious limits. However, to my mind, in most cases, the political structuring and level of society is significantly higher in consciousness in western countries. To my mind not integrating the lower stages like orange will leave a person or society in a very precarious position and they will suffer greatly for it. On the personal level, Green self help is fab until you, i.e., get a bill for your mum's cancer treatment that you cannot afford, or you can't afford the rent, and your close family dynamic lacks boundaries and emotional incest occurs. All the stages have something one can learn from imo.

I thought they are the same because the spiritual practices like Neti Neti go after the I. So is the no-self awakening also the awakening to solopsism?

Hi I really want opinions on that... I'm reading/practicing Neti Neti Meditation by Andre Doshim Halaw and that's really awesome. Did you use the technique and get an enlightenment experience? What's your thoughts on that? What's your results with Neti Neti? Love you all ♥

@Someone here The solipsism and Nihilism video, the former is what he took done, that one was very scary and hit pretty badly, nearly killed me. The what is anger part 1 and 2, because I suffered from anger issues, and had issues with his lack of empathy. Either the dark side of meditation, or the one with the paranormal. Just doesn't seem to have those paranormal experiences to talk about them, and I have had those and it's just weird. His spirituality and enlightenment videos and the guided neti neti video. Gave me strong depression that took several months to reverse. Every video of his dating advice, made me very insecure. I guess the moral of the story, is that this stuff's not for most normies

Lol. I can't remember who it was, but someone just said imagine your Child was ill and you went to the hospital and some doctor had adopted these Neo-Advaita teachings, yeah your child is dying but its all good because 'there's nobody there', 'nobody this is happening to' Also, I'd look out for a lot of scandals from these kind of teachers (not saying Jim Newman but in general) where the whole nobody there, nothing happening to noone spiel will be used as the excuse- How can anything with 'no' be the final answer? Sure, there's a time and a place to expose someone to the neti neti approach & what not, but as a parrot answer to every question, I'd say that's the furthest thing from Skilled Teaching. Plus, they never go beyond the 'No' 'Not' 'Nobody' and the truth is far beyond the negatives Imo, its quite a hollow, empty teaching, one you don't want to be stuck in

Okay so you just straight aren't ever going to recognize it then... Vedanta takes randomers who have not had these bizarre experiences and will tell you, "you are not your thoughts", etc (as I mentioned they do that whole neti neti process thing)... Now you will say back to them "but that's duality! I am my thoughts!" And it's like, well okay then guess you'll just have literally no chance of ever understanding it whatsoever... You're just talking about something you have never recognized as if you have recognized it, and because of that you will never recognize it... And that is ultimately why you think you "become" God and start performing magic. You will never "become" what you are. You can only ever possibly recognize what you are, but it is what you already and always were. There will never be such a thing as a level of consciousness, there isn't any tier that is higher or lower than what is rigidly the only one there ever was, which encompasses all there is and ever could be. There isn't space for it to grow into, it is itself and it is whole with nothing outside it, not even nothingness (since nothingness is fundamentally what you are), hence why: nowhere for it to grow into. All things happen WITHIN it, like the swirling images on a screen. All you are ever doing, it is not growing outwards into bigger and bigger pictures but seeing "through" the pictures so to speak. It is more like moving the opposite direction. Except you are already there...... Take this. You're at a cinema, super engrossed in the film, lost in it. Suddenly the movie cuts out. And you suddenly feel yourself in the seat there. You didn't "go to" the seat, or "become more seated". You were already and always there, ALWAYS just as seated and just as present in that chair. But you didn't realize because you were distracted by the movie. Leo would understand what I am saying but he doesn't really bother to post lately.

Dude you can't mention subtle dualities when you don't rn comprehend the thing you're trying to discuss... Example: In Vedanta they have a process they call neti neti, which is where the people are taught to understand they are not the thoughts, not the images, etc... Say a guy came in without having touched realization of Brahman and was like "nah that's BS, that's a duality" it's like, oh okay, guess you'll just never get it ever then... Only the entity referred to universally as "I" can """awaken""", AKA recognize itself. The images, your entire personness, cannot... Example: Imagine an elephant in your mind. Now stop imagining the elephant. Is the elephant now enlightened? Could the image of the elephant recognize it is only an image? Could the image of the elephant start "manifesting" things it desires? Well there you go....... ALL of your person-ness is exactly like that. All just images. Your desire to manifest something, is an idea and that is ALSO an image...

I feel like I´ve reached a plateau in my meditation and I know that it is because I haven´t commited to one specific technique to go deeper. But I find it hard to make a decision and commit to one, cause many resonate and I see the potential of them. But I feel now is the time to commit to one for a longer period of time. So what´s your favourite meditation technique? Zazen, Passage Meditation, Mantras, Breathing, Mindfulness, Satisfaction Meditation, I AM- Meditation, Neti-Neti, Loving Kindness Meditation, etc. You got any tips on how to decide for one?

You are absolutely certain that u exist, right? Nobody ever doubts his existence, it's impossible. Even to say i don't exist u need to exist first to say that. So u exist. Absolutely so. Now the question becomes 'i exists but as what?' Then neti neti starts. Everything is impermenant, but i remain and observe existence coming and going. Then by observing all phenomena to its subtlest realms u realize what u are can't be found or grasped. It is nothing or not-anything-tangiable. No-self in buddhist's terms. That's the realization of the absolute. Realization of nothingness. And it has no levels or it wouldn't be absolute. There are degrees of insight into the absolute tho.

Guys, how can there be any sort of consciousness of the absolute? How can we become conscious of *actual* nothing? Nothing can't be conscious because when it is it's something. Like in the neti-neti method: not this trip, not this insight, etc, etc. Am I on the right track?

I was doing the neti neti method and when the last thing was gone (thoughts) I started vaguely seeing in my imagination something that I actually saw in my childhood during a fever dream and this memory from childhood got completly deleted from my memory but when this experience occured it just clicked in me and I suddenly remembered it and it even felt the same. I can't describe it now, and I think I would'nt be able to put it in words even during the experience. But the thing is that during this state what was really present is fear. I, or better maybe my body felt so much fear that it affected my mind and so I started to become terrified. I tried to surrender to this fear and calm myself down, but about in a minute this experience completly wear off and I was left with the biggest confusion and "what the fuck was that" thought. Did I messed it up? Cuz at some point I tried to describe what I'm experiencing and maybe it ruined it. I really want to point out the fact that I definetly experienced that in my childhood maybe even multiple times and it used to scare me a lot (I was a kid cmon who would put a child through such thing) Elp

@Ninja_pig It happened to me aswell. You dispell some illusions, then the mind creates negative beliefs out the emptiness of those as if reality is lacking. Thats the trick. But you have to go beyond. Dont just dispell illusions. You have to simultaneiusly ground yourself in presence. The IAM. Other wise you will be floating in the chaos of your mind karma. Which feels like hell. Dont do much spirituality if you are not going all in. Right now im used to pain. The moment is coming soon when I will drop all and trade my false I for the True "I". Remember that as you drop beliefs that ground you, you might also need some new positive beliefs for specific things/situations. Dont just donate. God wants to trade with you. Also, true meditation makes you very passive and its risky if you have many responsabilities. Unless you are rich with nothing else to do. I prefer Self-Inquiry, Neti-Neti and Psychedelics.