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@KatiesKarma hayyyy katie!!! many claim soooo... even leo shared his thought on this where he speculated it is possible for you to have some karmic repercussions due to ur hindering of evolution of consciousness. this karma is not at all a judgement but rather a self imposed reaction to ur life. anyways , although even leo buys into past life and reincarnation model, it is also possible this is also a fallacy... after all, since many spiritual traditions claim this independently, we have to take in to account that there is some truth to them even if without direct experience rather than being a false skeptic..sooo, LOVE UR LIFE...IT'S THE GREATEST GIFT U HAVE!
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SelfHelpGuy replied to SQAAD's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@mandyjw @SQAAD @Breakingthewall @Tim R @The Lucid Dreamer @JosephKnecht @OneHandClap @Rilles @Judy2 But constantly being reborn until you become pure Godlike seems like it's not from the highest good/love. If you tell me that If I don't do good things or if I don't do this or that then I'll be reborn as a lesser being or go to a hellish realm that literally just installs fear as a motivator to be better. Then you would only be a good person or do good thing "so you don't go to hell" / out of fear? --- That's fucked, imo. I hope that things are so that you get a choice each lifetime if you wanna continue, something doesn't quite ring true in my heart about this whole worse reincarnation thing / hell realms if you do bad things. My inkling (still not verified yet) is that we simply unite into one infinity as love forever eternally, then we get bored of infinity and be a being again. Play a new character, change the character's clothes, appearance, give it wings whatever the fuck. But Idk still, unless we have a direct experience of a final human physical death WE CAN'T KNOW. All of us here are still writing on a forum so non of us know, maybe it'll be a nice surprise when it's our time. Yes, some people have had NDE's and have died (I don't discount that) however non of us that are still breathing have had the "FINAL" physical death. Yes Ego death is basically the same thing,,,, BUTTT not quite, not physically and permanently - you have to actually die and stay dead to truly know LOL. Let's find out when we find out and live by love in the meantime. -
SQAAD replied to SQAAD's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Tim R Basically Karma. I think every action has a consequence. There is no free ride. I think that some characteristics of the soul can survive death into the next reincarnation. -
Salvijus replied to SelfHelpGuy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ram dass video on reincarnation popped on my youtube screen just now, might be a synchronisity. -
Salvijus replied to SelfHelpGuy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@SelfHelpGuy nice examples ? I think if some people can remeber what they did yesterday, and some people can remember what they did in the previous lifetime, there is not much difference. Well I don't have a full understanding on this but what buddha or Jesus would say is that ego doesn't die after death. It takes another form. It could take an eartly body, or some other body, or go to heavenly realm or to hell. Where you go depends on how much evolution of the soul has been made here on earth. I don't even myself understand it fully so... but ego survives bodily death according to almost all if not 100% of all religions and spiritual traditions in the world even in advaita studies nobody denies reincarnation. Only "expert nondualists" on this forum have funny ways of disproving everything that they don’t like. ? I think reincarnation is like taking all the data and all the softwares from one computer and uploading it to another computer. If you want ego death, all data has to be obliterated through spiritual practice or antivirus self deleting program killing a computer won't kill the data inside it. When a body dies, I think the personality and the karmic substance and all data of the ego can float around in the energy body in the space or take another womb. The personality and the karmic substance is recorded in the energy body. This energy that carries the information and data of the personality is called the soul. The soul's energy and universe's energy is ultimately the same but it is being seperated by the ego and karmic substance. Like a bubble in the air. Air inside the bubble and air outside the bubble is the same air but a bubble is formed becouce of the ego mass around the energy and appareat seperation of individual soul happens. Dissolving the bubble or the karmic structure makes the bubble dissapear and the soul energy reunites with the cosmos energy. Aka, mahasamadhi. If you dissolve the ego bubble fully, the energy that carries the person's data will no longer be entrapped by the personality and just unites with infinity. Like the bubble bursting and air joining the cosmos. -
Shin replied to SelfHelpGuy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nobody is saying that reincarnation is not a phenomenon than God can dream up. It's just confusing and assumes there is ultimately a soul somewhere separated from God. Which leads to beliefs that you can't join God (realize that you're God) unless you've reincarnated yourself x number of times. And of course, if this is the case, completely close the possibility to realize that you're God right now. -
iboughtleosbooklist replied to SelfHelpGuy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hmmmm, sleep is very much like death. If I fully believed my body was dying then I could see reincarnation as a possibility. I know there's no me, but the illusive dream characters POV could go through a dream of dying. I wouldn't want to fully write off reincarnation or death, honestly who knows? It's the great unknown what happens to all the characters and how the dream may change. -
Salvijus replied to SelfHelpGuy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's really unfair to use nondual phylosophy to dismiss reincarnation. Reincarnation is like going to sleep and waking up in the morning again. Going to sleep would be equivalent to death, and waking up in the morning would be equivalent to entering a new womb. Just because everything is one and there is no seperate self doesn't disprove the fact that there is such a thing as sleep and waking up in the morning. I'm not saying reincarnation is real or unreal. I'm saying nonduality is really a poor way of disproving reincarnation. Nonduality has nothing to do with this subject at all. Nonduality only points to the absolute truth there is no such thing as death. Because consciouness can't die and was never born. But consciouness also can’t fall asleep and can't wake up. And so? Does that mean sleep doesn't exist? A hardcore nondualist would say sleep doesn't exist because there is no self to fall asleep or to wake up (or smth like that). But from a normal human relative perspective sleep and waking up is very much real phenomena we all experience every day. To use nondual phylosophy to dismiss everything is really unfair. You can say there's no such thing as eating because consciouness doesn't have a stomach. And there is no self so who is eating? You can basicly prove any kind of bullshit with this nondual phylosophy. Nondual phylosophy has it's place and is beautiful but it should not be used in every area of life. Even ramana maharshi the god of advaita and nonduality says there is reincarnation... -
Shin replied to SelfHelpGuy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You can go to infinite love right now because that's what God is, and you're God (the ego doesn't need to die, you can just realize what it is from God pov). Those 100 lives thing, it's just an another dream inside God's mind, you can go straight to God (you). Believing into those reincarnation things only limit you. -
Tim R replied to caspex's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There are different ways of understanding what is meant by "reincarnation". The Hindus will tell you one thing, the Theravada Buddhists will tell you another thing and the Zen Buddhists will tell you something else altogether. The way I understand reincarnation is that every time you identify yourself with a particular form, you are being reincarnated. You believe there was a past "you", don't you? And you also believe that you will go on into the future, no? If you think that there is a continuous "you", you are being reincarnated. Because you identify with a certain pattern. This pattern is the foundation of your illusory sense of self, it's what you identify with. Imagine a river. This river is constantly flowing along, never the same. You could say "there is no such thing as 'a river', there's only the continuous flowing pattern". And if you think there is "a river" (even as "a continuous pattern of flow"), the river is being reincarnated, you see? Just in the same way, if you think that there is a flowing form that "you are" (i.e. you identify yourself with) and that is in some way fixed and continuous like the river, that is your reincarnation. But if you see through the illusion of time and you stop identifying yourself with any particular form, you're liberated from reincarnation (Samsara). You see that you were never born, you're not alive now, and you will never die. Edit: That's much rather a Mahayana Buddhist understanding of reincarnation. The literal sense of a soul being reincarnated into a body is both the Hindu and the Western understanding of it, but both are founded on the belief of a soul being inside a body. -
How does the energetic body/soul even find a baby and align with it? I mean why did organisms evolve to make empty husks for these souls? At first I thought that energetic body also just forms as material body forms, that's how souls come into existence. However, when baby is in womb, these souls become that body's energetic body and connect themselves to it until death(That's what I have seen in every model of reincarnation so far). I am gonna be honest though, I have no idea how reincarnation ties in with this. How does a soul even connect to material bodies, and why is that even normal?
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I'm so sorry to hear you lost your pet, I know how hard that can be. I have lost so many over the years to old age and illnesses. Sadly, FIV is usually a life-ender and can happen if you find a kitten on the street and it has not been vaccinated against it. Cats make such loving pets, most people don't realize how much love these little guys have for their owners. You made the cat's life better, and think of it this way, when you give an animal love and attention, it will start to gain awareness of itself more, and so it will be reincarnated into a higher being with more awareness of what love is because that is what it was given. All about animal reincarnation ^ Your little pet may very well be on his next life to being a human! <3 *big hug* Sorry you lost your little one, I know how hard it is.
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EntheogenTruthSeeker posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Sober experience, for the most part, by the way. I am infinitely ignorant and enlightened, life by life, incarnation by incarnation, for infinity. and ultimately, that lead to the realization that when I die will merge with the formless for eternity. There’s no care to try to convince any of you of a experience that is 100% transcendent and personal/unverifiable unless you do the work. Even then, this may not happen for you cause it’s not your path? Idfk who cares, lol. Humor is coming back rapidly, and god is changing everybody in my immediate life on radical radical levels. detoxed my body and all this spiritual energy has unleashed to infinity. Love other. Love yourself. Love reality. The rest will result in more love than you could ever ask for or handle. Namaste bitchez.? -
@mandyjw I don't want to attract men, I've grown out of that quite a long time ago; that isn't my intent. My point is, I really dislike how the majority of men view women; if you haven't lived in a city, or dealt with certain types of guys you just won't understand. It is a problem, for sure. This generation has ruined women, and then they wonder why there's feminism, to counter it. Also, I believe in reincarnation and I don't want to get karmically stuck dealing with someone for lifetimes from 'this' generation. It would be the equivalent of letting a tick suck on my blood. I already jumped over the wave, it came at me like in ... 2020? I was suppose to self-love into following it, but I think the whole idea is really tacky. The masculine is already a part of the feminine if you're integrated enough you just end up not really needing it/being able to do things for yourself/live for yourself, and seeing this stuff for what it is becomes easier.
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@Carl-Richard That's kind of what I'm doing, I'm keeping it at like a chapter or two a day. You're limiting what could ultimately be helpful for other people who are 'serious' about the work. I'm not copy pasting, I'm writing out the words, bit by bit, going through and learning it myself - I put an entire days work into getting examples from my own awakenings that I feel could really help people out - people who are worried about death, who don't believe they have a soul, who don't know how to visualize an inner world, all these good things. I don't want to link to my journal, it seems like a shallow way to represent this material... But by all means, supplicate the fast food "quick in and out" era of information. God forbid people are urged to read something. I have plenty more stage turquoise material to share. Really amazing books - that people are simply going to be too lazy to read unless you make it that easy for them. That's how people are anymore nowadays. But we'll see... I'll make links, and share them three at a time. You guys should take the time to read it. I have many more sources other than this, since Zero made it known about his views on this material - I have dozens of other books that can be cross referenced for someone who is looking for their own personal proof/truth into the validity of their own soul. So, links it is. Ugh... I just didn't want to, in the future, have to send people links to my journal, I thought it would in the long run be better to have it here. It seems more communal, then directing traffic there. Now when I send a link, it'll just look like a tacky way of redirecting traffic to my stuff. My goal was to have a few books, with chapters pertaining to certain subject laid out, so that I could use the links in the future to quick reference, and send someone that way if they need the information, and to have a directory of it, so when someone asks about reincarnation, or something, then they can get a very thorough answer that they deserve. I'd hoped to have enough cross references with enough detail that people could creatively come up with their own answers about how they feel on the topic. As someone who has had an experience of my soul, and multiple souls - there is a component missing from this forum, that I had an awakening to before ever coming here, spontaneously, and it is like seeing people missing out on a piece of the puzzle.
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@Carl-Richard I'm making these so that I can send links in the future for people who have questions about reincarnation, the soul and whatnot. Did you even bother to read it? Or go through it? Or try to understand it at all or was it just a "too long, me no likey, make turquoise simple plzzzz" Well I hate to say it but to get there is a long process for most, and long processes require good explanations for people. If you took the time to read, my examples are fantastic. At least one or two people will get quite a lot from this. You guys just want it packaged like a fast food... The examples here for turquoise are mostly terrible.... My work... actually... isn't. It is right where it should be.
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@Leo Gura Your views on relationships suck. Do you have friends, even? If so, I'm shocked. You don't embody love at all... you're low value dude... like much more than your ego would want to admit. You're still the same awkward person you were years ago, you just covered it up with a big heaping plate of phony. Saying this as a broke girl, by the way. I would never date you. Nor would most of the women on this forum. Yet these are the types of women you want to find, and you repel them. You don't have game dude. Like, years ago you made a comment on reddit calling women coke whores. It has not changed all these years, so... what's to make a person think you are developed in other areas? I think you front development. A lot. Let me put it this way: If I were about to peace out due to loneliness, and someone came out and said, "Yo chick, you can date Leo Gura. He'll take you on as his charity case!" I would be more inclined to give the wheel of reincarnation another spin before I'd consider that. Sounds extreme, but I mean it. I would rather fornicate myself with a sharpened pencil. There are just so many things I would rather do. Maybe a person doesn't view money as important? I don't. I view spiritually growing as the most important thing. You act as if you're not a total weirdo, possibly a bit of a nut yourself, and that you deserve the very best. Why? Why would a woman of value give such a shallow man any of her time? She wouldn't. You're gunna get what you put out, and it's going to be a crappy mirror, I tell ya... She's gunna view you the way you view women. You're gunna get that toxic yin to go with your toxic yang. You're relationally toxic towards my gender.
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Seth Speaks notes - chapter 4: Reincarnational dramas: Your own environment includes far more than you may have supposed. Earlier I referred to your environment in terms of the daily physical existence and surroundings with which you are currently connected. In actuality, you are aware of very little of your larger, more extensive environment. Consider your present self as an actor in a play; hardly a new analogy, but a suitable one. The scene is set in the twentieth century. You create the props, the settings, the themes; in fact you write, produce, and act in the entire production - you and every other individual who takes part. You are so focused in your roles, however; so intrigued by the reality that you have created, so entranced by the problems, challenges, hopes, and sorrows of your particular roles that you have forgotten they are of your own creation. This intensely moving drama, with all its joys and tragedies, can be compared with your present life, your present environment, both individually and en masse. But there are other plays going on simultaneously, in which you also have a part to play. These have their own scenery, their own props. They take place in different periods of time. One may be called "Life in the twelfth century A.D." or "in A.D. 3000". You also create these plays and act in them. These settling also represent your environment, the environment that surrounds your entire personality. I am speaking of the portion of you who is taking part in this particular period piece, however; and that particular portion of your entire personality is so focused within this drama that you are not aware of the others in which you also play a role. You do not understand your own multidimensional reality; therefore it seems strange or unbelievable when I tell you that you live many existences at one time. It is difficult for you to imagine being in two places at once, much less in two or more times, or centuries. Time is not a series of moments. The words that you speak, the acts that you perform, appear to take place in time, as a chair or table appears to take up space. These appearances, however are a part of the complicated props that you have set up beforehand, and within the play you must accept these as real. Four o'clock in the afternoon is a handy reference. You can say to a friend, "I will meet you at four o'clock at the corner," or at a restaurant, for a drink or a chat or a meal, and your friend will know precisely where and when he will find you. This will happen despite the fact that four o'clock in the afternoon has no basic meaning, but is an agreed-upon designation. If you attend the theatre at none o'clock in the evening, but the actions of the play take place within the morning hours, and the actors are shown eating breakfast, you accept the time as given within the theatre's play. You also pretend that it is morning. Each of you are now involved in a much larger production, in which you all agree on certain basic assumptions that serve as a framework within which the play can occur. The assumptions are that time is a series of moments one after another; that an objective world exists quite independently of your own creation and perception of it; that you are bound within the physical bodies that you have donned; and that you are limited by time and space. Other assumptions accepted for the same reason include the idea that all perception comes through your physical senses; in other words, that all information comes from without, and that no information can come from within. You therefore are forced to focus intensely upon the actions of the play. Now these various plays, these creative period pieces represent what you would call reincarnational lives. They all exist basically at one time. Those who are still involved in these highly complicated passion-play seminars called reincarnational existences, find it difficult to see beyond them. Some, resting between productions, as it were, try to communicate with those who are still taking part; but they themselves are merely in the wings, so to speak, and can only see so far. The plays seem to be taking place one before the other, and so these communications seem to intensify the false idea that time is a series of moments, passing in a single line from some inconceivable beginning, to some equally inconceivable end. This leads you to think it terms of a very limited progress, both in individual terms and in terms of your species as a whole. You think, those of you who have even considered reincarnation, "Well, certainly the race must have progressed from the time of the Middle Ages," although you greatly fear it has not; or you turn to technological progress and say, "At least we have come a long way in that direction." You may smile and think to yourself that it is quite difficult to imagine a Roman senator addressing the multitudes through a microphone for example; his children, watching his performance on television. But all of this is highly misleading. Progress does not exist in the terms that you consider it to, any more than time does. In each play, both individually and en masse, different problems are set up. Progress can be measured in terms of the particular ways in which those problems were solved or not solved. Great advances have been made in certain periods. For example, great offshoots appeared that from your viewpoint you might not consider progress at all. In some plays, generally speaking, the actors are each working on a seemingly minute portion of a larger problem that the play itself is to resolve. Though I use the analogy 'drama', these plays are highly spontaneous affairs in which the actors have full freedom within the play's framework. And granting these assumptions that have been stated, there are no rehearsals. There are observers. As in any good theatre production, there is an overall theme within each play. The great artists, for example, did not emerge out of a particular time simply because they were born into it, or because the conditions were favorable. The play itself was concerned with the actualization of intuitive truth into what you would call artistic form, with a creativity of such vast and sweeping results that is would serve to awaken latent abilities within each actor and to serve as a model of behaviour. Periods of renaissance - spiritual, artistic, or psychic - occur because the intense inner focus of those involved in the drama are directed towards those ends. The challenge may be different in each play, but the great themes are beacons to all consciousness. They serve as models. Progress has nothing to do with time, you see, but with psychic and spiritual focus. Each play is entirely different from any other. It is not correct, therefore, to suppose that your actions in this life are caused by a previous existence, or that you are being punished in this life for crimes in a past one. The lives are simultaneous. Your own multidimensional personality is so endowed that it can have these experiences and still retain it's identity. It is, of course, affected, by the various plays in which it takes part. There is an instant communication and an instant feedback system. These plays are hardly without purpose. In them the multidimensional personality learns through its own actions. It tries out an endless variety of poses, behavior patterns, attitudes, and changes others as a result. The word result automatically infers cause and effect - the cause happening before the effect, and this is simply one small example of the strength of such distortions, and of the inherent difficulties involved with verbal thought, for it always implies a single-line delineation. You are the multidimensional self who has these existences, who creates and takes part in these cosmic passion plays, so to speak. It is only because you focus in this particular role now that you identify your entire being with it. You have set these rules for yourself for a reason. And consciousness is in a state of becoming, and so this multidimensional self of which I speak is not a psychological structure completed and done with. It is also in a state of becoming. It is learning the art of actualization. It has within it infinite sources of creativity, unlimited possibilities of development. But it has yet to learn the means of actualization, and must find within itself ways to bring into existence those untold creations that are within it. Therefore it creates varieties of conditions in which to operate, and sets itself challenged, some doomed to failure in your terms, at least initially, because it must first create the conditions which will bring new creations about. And all of this is done with great spontaneity and unbounded joy. You therefore create far more environments than you realize. Now each actor, going about the role, focused within the play, has an inner guide line. He is not left, therefore, abandoned within a play that he has forgotten in his own creation. He has knowledge and information that comes to him through what I call the inner senses. He has other sources of information, therefore, than those strictly given within the confines of the production. Each actor knows this instinctively, and there are periods set and allowed for within the play itself in which each actor retires in order to refresh himself. In these he is informed through the inner senses of his other roles, and he realizes that he is far more than the self appearing in any given play. In these periods he understands that he had his hand in the writing of the play, and he is freed from those assumptions that bind him while he is actively concerned with the drama's activities. These periods, of course, coincide with your sleep states and dreaming conditions; but there are also other times when each actor sees quite clearly that he is surrounded by props, and when his vision suddenly pieces the seeming reality of the productions. This does not mean that the play is not real, or that it should not be taken seriously. It does mean playing a role - an important one. Each actor must of himself realize, however, the nature of the production and his part in it. He must actualize himself out of the three-dimensional confines of the play's setting. There is great cooperation behind such momentous productions, and in playing his role, each actor first actualizes himself within three-dimensional reality. This multidimensional self cannot act within three dimensional reality until it materializes a portion of itself within it. Within this reality, it them brings about all kinds of creativity and development that could not appear otherwise. It must then propel itself from this system through another act, another actualization on the part of itself that is three-dimensional. During its three-dimensional existence it has helped others in ways that they could not otherwise be helped, and it has been itself benefited and developed in ways that would be impossible otherwise. The meaning of the play is within you, therefore. It is only the conscious portion of you that acts so well, and that is focused so securely within the props of the production. The purpose of any given life is available to you, the knowledge beneath the surface of the conscious self you know. All kinds of hints and clues are also available. You have the knowledge of your entire multidimensional personality at your fingertips. When you realize that you do, this knowledge allows you to solve the problems or meet the challenges you have set, quicker, in your terms; and also opens further areas of creativity by which the entire play or production can be enriched. To the extend that you allow the intuitions and knowledge of the multidimensional self to flow through the conscious self, to that extent not only do you perform your role in the paly more effectively, but you add new insights, creativity and energy to the entire dimension. Now it seems to you, of course, that you are the only conscious part of yourself, for you are identifying with the actor in this particular production. The other portions of your multidimensional personality, in these other reincarnational plays, are also conscious, however. And because you are a multidimensional consciousness, "you" are also conscious in other realities beside these. Your multidimensional personality, your true identity, the real you, is conscious of itself, as itself, in any of these roles. These "period pieces" overall, have a particular purpose. By the very nature of consciousness, it seeks to materialize itself in as many dimensions as possible - to create from itself new levels of awareness, new offshoots. In doing so it creates all reality. Reality, therefore, is always in a state of becoming. The thoughts you think, for example, in your actor's roles, are still completely unique and lead to new creativity. Certain aspects of your own consciousness could be fulfilled in no other way. When you think of reincarnation, you suppose a series of progressions. Instead the various lives grow out of what your inner self is. They are not thrust upon you by some outside agency. They are a material development, as your consciousness opens up and expresses itself in as many ways as possible. It is not restricted to one three-dimensional existence alone. Your consciousness then takes many forms, and these forms need not be alike any more, say, than a caterpillar is like a butterfly. The soul or entity has complete freedom of expression. It changes its form to suit its expression, and it forms environments like stage settings, and worlds to suit its purposes. Each setting brings form new developments. The soul or entity is highly individualized spiritual energy. It forms whatever body you now wear, and is the motive power behind your physical survival, for from it you derive your vitality. Consciousness can never be still, but seeks further creativity. The soul, or entity, endows three-dimensional reality, and the three-dimensional self with its own properties. The abilities of the entity lie within the three-dimensional self. The three-dimensional self, the actor, has access to this information and to these potentials. In learning to use these potentials, in learning to rediscover its relationship with the entity, the three-dimensional self raises still further the level of achievement, comprehension, and creativity. The three-dimensional self becomes more than it knows. Now only is the entity strengthened, but portions of it, having been actualized in three-dimensional existence, now add to the very quality and nature of that existence. Without this creativity, planetary life in your terms would always be sterile. The soul or entity then gives breath to the body, and to the three-dimensional self within it. The three-dimensional self then goes about its purpose of opening up new areas of creativity. Entities, or souls in other words, send out portions of themselves to open up avenues of reality that would not exist otherwise. The three-dimensional selves, in existing within these realities must focus their attention there completely. An inner awareness gives them a source of energy and strength. They must, however, comes to understand their roles as actors, "finally" from their roles, and through another act of comprehension, return to the entity. There are those who appear within these plays fully away. These personalities willingly take roles, knowing that they are roles, in order to lead the others toward the necessary realization and development. They lead the actors to see beyond themselves and settings they have created. These personalities from other levels of existence oversee the play, so to speak, and appear among the actors. Their purpose is the open up within the three-dimensional selves those psychological doorways that will release the three-dimensional self for further development in another system of reality. You are learning to be co-creators. You are learning to be Gods as you now understand the term. You are learning responsibility - the responsibility of any individualized consciousness. You are learning to handle the energy that is yourself, for creative purposes. You will be bound to those you love and those you hate, though you will learn to release and lose and dissipate the hatred. You will learn to use even hatred creatively and to turn it to the higher ends, to transform it finally into love. The settings in your physical environment, the sometimes lovely paraphernalia, the physical aspects of life as you know it, are all camouflages are composed of the vitality of the universe. The rocks and stones and mountains and earth are living camouflage, interlocking psychic webs formed by minute consciousnesses that you cannot perceive as such. The atoms and molecules within them have their own consciousness, as do the atoms and molecules with your body. Since you all have a hand in forming the physical setting, and since you are ensconced yourself in a physical form, then using the physical senses you will only perceive this fantastic setting. The reality that exists both within it and beyond it will elude you. Even the actor is not entirely three-dimensional, however. He is part of a multidimensional self. Within him there are methods of perception that allow him to see through the camouflage settings, to see beyond the stage. He uses these inner senses constantly, through the actor part of himself is so intent upon the play that this escapes him. In a large manner, the physical senses actually form the physical reality they seem to only perceive. They are themselves part of the camouflage, but they are like lenses over your natural inner perceptions that force you to see an available field of activity as physical matter; and so they can be relied upon only to tell you what is happening in a superficial manner. You can tell the position of other actors, for example, or time, by clock, but these physical senses will not tell you that time is itself a camouflage, or that consciousness forms the other actors, or that realities that you cannot see exist over and beyond the physical matter that is so apparent. You can, however, using your inner senses, perceive reality as it exists apart from the play and your role in it. In order to do this you must momentarily turn your attention away from the constant activity that is taking place - turn off the physical senses, as it were - and switch you attention to those events that have escaped you earlier. The effect would be something like changing one set of glasses for another, for the physical senses are as artificial, basically speaking, to the inner self, as a set of glasses or hearing aids is to the physical self. The inner senses are but rarely used completely consciously. You would be more than disoriented, for example, but quite terrified, if between one moment and the next your familiar environment was you knew it disappeared to be replaced by other sets of data that you were not yet ready to understand, so much information from the inner senses must be translated in terms that you can comprehend. Such information must somehow make sense to you as three-dimensional selves, in other words. Your particular set of camouflages is not the only set, you see. Other realities have entirely different systems, but all personalities have inner senses that are attributes of consciousness, and through these inner senses communications are maintained about which the normally conscious self knows very little. Part of my purpose is to make some of these communications known. The soul or entity, then, is not the self that reads this book. You environment is not simply the world about you as you know it, but also consists of past-life environments upon which you are not now focusing. Your real environment is innocent of space and time as you know them. In your real environment you have no need for words, for communication is instantaneous. In your real environment you form the physical world that you know. The inner senses will allow you to perceive the reality that is independent of physical form. I will ask you all to momentarily forsake your roles therefore, and to try this simple exercise: Pretend that you are on a lighted stage, the stage being the room in which you now sit. Close your eyes and pretend that the lights have gone out, the setting has disappeared and you are alone. Everything is dark. Be quiet. Imagine as vividly as you can the existence of inner senses. For now pretend that they correspond to your physical ones. Clear from your mind all thoughts and worries. Be receptive. Very gently listen, not to physical sounds but to sounds that come through the inner senses. Images may begin to appear. Accept them as sights quite as valid as those you see physically. Pretend that there is an inner world, and that it will be revealed to you as you learn to perceive it with these inner senses. Images may begin to appear. Accept them as sights quite valid as those you see physically. Pretend that there is an inner world, and that it will be revealed to you as you learn to perceive it with these inner senses. Pretend that you have been blind to this world all your life, and are now slowly gaining sight within it. Do not judge the whole inner world by the disjointed images that you may at first perceive, or by the sounds that you may first hear, for you will still be using your inner senses quite imperfectly. Do this simple exercise for a few moments before sleep or in the resting state. It may also be done even in the midst of an ordinary task that does not take all of your attention. You will simply be learning to focus in a new dimension of awareness, taking quick snapshots, as it were, in a strange environment. Remember that you will only be perceiving snatches. Simply accept them, but do not attempt to make any overall judgements or interpretations at this stage. Ten minutes a day to begin with is quite sufficient. Now the information in this book is being directed to some extent through the inner senses of the woman who is in trance as I write it. Such endeavor is the result of highly organized inner precision, and of training. The inner senses are channels that provide communication between various dimensions of existence. Yet even here the information must be distorted to some extent as it is translated into physical terms. Otherwise it would not be perceived at all. I have spent some time emphasizing the fact that each of us forms our own environment, because I want you to realize that the responsibility for your life and your environment is your own. If you believe otherwise, then you are limited; your environment then represents the sum total of knowledge and experience. As long as you believe your environment to be objective and independent of yourself, then to a large extent you feel powerless to change it, to see beyond it, or to imagine other alternatives that may be less apparent. I have also discussed reincarnation in terms of environment because many schools of thought over-emphasize the effects of reincarnational existences, so that often they explain present-life circumstances as a result of rigid and uncompromising patterns determined in a past life. You will feel relatively incompetent to handle present physical reality, to alter your environment, to affect and change your world, if you feel that you are at the mercy of conditions over which you have no control. The reasons given for such subjugations matter little in the long run, for the reasons change with the times and with your culture. You are not under a sentence placed upon you for original sin, by any childhood events, or by past-life experience. Your life, for example, may be far less fulfilling than you think you would prefer. You may be less when you would be more, but you are not under a pall placed upon your psyche, either by original sin, Freud's infancy syndromes, or past-life influences. I will try to explain the last life influences a bit more clearly here. The affect you as any experience does. Time is not closed, however - it is open. One life is not buries in the past, disconnected from the present self and any future self as well. As I explained earlier, the loves or the plays are happening at once. Creativity and consciousness are never linear achievements. In each life you choose and create your own settings or environments; and in this one you chose your parents and whatever childhood incidents that came within your experience. You wrote the script. Like a true absent-minded professor, the conscious self forgets all this, so when tragedy appears in the script, difficulty or challenges, the conscious self looks for someone or something to blame. Before this book is done I hope to show you precisely how you create each minute of your experience so that you can begin to exert your true creative responsibility on a conscious level - or nearly so. As you read this book, now and then look about you at the room in which you sit. Chairs and tables, the ceilings and the floors, may seem very real and solid - quite permanent - while you by contrast may feel yourself to be highly vulnerable, caught in a moment between birth and extinction. You may even feel jealous when you think of it, imagining that the physical universe will continue to exist long after you are gone. By the end of our book, however, I hope you will realize the eternal validity of your own consciousness, and the impermanence of those physical aspects of your environment, and of your universe, that now seem so secure.
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Now only is the entity strengthened, but portions of it, having been actualized in three-dimensional existence, now add to the very quality and nature of that existence. Without this creativity, planetary life in your terms would always be sterile. The soul or entity then gives breath to the body, and to the three-dimensional self within it. The three-dimensional self then goes about its purpose of opening up new areas of creativity. Entities, or souls in other words, send out portions of themselves to open up avenues of reality that would not exist otherwise. The three-dimensional selves, in existing within these realities must focus their attention there completely. An inner awareness gives them a source of energy and strength. They must, however, comes to understand their roles as actors, "finally" from their roles, and through another act of comprehension, return to the entity. There are those who appear within these plays fully away. These personalities willingly take roles, knowing that they are roles, in order to lead the others toward the necessary realization and development. They lead the actors to see beyond themselves and settings they have created. These personalities from other levels of existence oversee the play, so to speak, and appear among the actors. Their purpose is the open up within the three-dimensional selves those psychological doorways that will release the three-dimensional self for further development in another system of reality. You are learning to be co-creators. You are learning to be Gods as you now understand the term. You are learning responsibility - the responsibility of any individualized consciousness. You are learning to handle the energy that is yourself, for creative purposes. You will be bound to those you love and those you hate, though you will learn to release and lose and dissipate the hatred. You will learn to use even hatred creatively and to turn it to the higher ends, to transform it finally into love. The settings in your physical environment, the sometimes lovely paraphernalia, the physical aspects of life as you know it, are all camouflages are composed of the vitality of the universe. The rocks and stones and mountains and earth are living camouflage, interlocking psychic webs formed by minute consciousnesses that you cannot perceive as such. The atoms and molecules within them have their own consciousness, as do the atoms and molecules with your body. Since you all have a hand in forming the physical setting, and since you are ensconced yourself in a physical form, then using the physical senses you will only perceive this fantastic setting. The reality that exists both within it and beyond it will elude you. Even the actor is not entirely three-dimensional, however. He is part of a multidimensional self. Within him there are methods of perception that allow him to see through the camouflage settings, to see beyond the stage. He uses these inner senses constantly, through the actor part of himself is so intent upon the play that this escapes him. In a large manner, the physical senses actually form the physical reality they seem to only perceive. They are themselves part of the camouflage, but they are like lenses over your natural inner perceptions that force you to see an available field of activity as physical matter; and so they can be relied upon only to tell you what is happening in a superficial manner. You can tell the position of other actors, for example, or time, by clock, but these physical senses will not tell you that time is itself a camouflage, or that consciousness forms the other actors, or that realities that you cannot see exist over and beyond the physical matter that is so apparent. You can, however, using your inner senses, perceive reality as it exists apart from the play and your role in it. In order to do this you must momentarily turn your attention away from the constant activity that is taking place - turn off the physical senses, as it were - and switch you attention to those events that have escaped you earlier. The effect would be something like changing one set of glasses for another, for the physical senses are as artificial, basically speaking, to the inner self, as a set of glasses or hearing aids is to the physical self. The inner senses are but rarely used completely consciously. You would be more than disoriented, for example, but quite terrified, if between one moment and the next your familiar environment was you knew it disappeared to be replaced by other sets of data that you were not yet ready to understand, so much information from the inner senses must be translated in terms that you can comprehend. Such information must somehow make sense to you as three-dimensional selves, in other words. Your particular set of camouflages is not the only set, you see. Other realities have entirely different systems, but all personalities have inner senses that are attributes of consciousness, and through these inner senses communications are maintained about which the normally conscious self knows very little. Part of my purpose is to make some of these communications known. The soul or entity, then, is not the self that reads this book. You environment is not simply the world about you as you know it, but also consists of past-life environments upon which you are not now focusing. Your real environment is innocent of space and time as you know them. In your real environment you have no need for words, for communication is instantaneous. In your real environment you form the physical world that you know. The inner senses will allow you to perceive the reality that is independent of physical form. I will ask you all to momentarily forsake your roles therefore, and to try this simple exercise: Pretend that you are on a lighted stage, the stage being the room in which you now sit. Close your eyes and pretend that the lights have gone out, the setting has disappeared and you are alone. Everything is dark. Be quiet. Imagine as vividly as you can the existence of inner senses. For now pretend that they correspond to your physical ones. Clear from your mind all thoughts and worries. Be receptive. Very gently listen, not to physical sounds but to sounds that come through the inner senses. Images may begin to appear. Accept them as sights quite as valid as those you see physically. Pretend that there is an inner world, and that it will be revealed to you as you learn to perceive it with these inner senses. Images may begin to appear. Accept them as sights quite valid as those you see physically. Pretend that there is an inner world, and that it will be revealed to you as you learn to perceive it with these inner senses. Pretend that you have been blind to this world all your life, and are now slowly gaining sight within it. Do not judge the whole inner world by the disjointed images that you may at first perceive, or by the sounds that you may first hear, for you will still be using your inner senses quite imperfectly. Do this simple exercise for a few moments before sleep or in the resting state. It may also be done even in the midst of an ordinary task that does not take all of your attention. You will simply be learning to focus in a new dimension of awareness, taking quick snapshots, as it were, in a strange environment. Remember that you will only be perceiving snatches. Simply accept them, but do not attempt to make any overall judgements or interpretations at this stage. Ten minutes a day to begin with is quite sufficient. Now the information in this book is being directed to some extent through the inner senses of the woman who is in trance as I write it. Such endeavor is the result of highly organized inner precision, and of training. The inner senses are channels that provide communication between various dimensions of existence. Yet even here the information must be distorted to some extent as it is translated into physical terms. Otherwise it would not be perceived at all. I have spent some time emphasizing the fact that each of us forms our own environment, because I want you to realize that the responsibility for your life and your environment is your own. If you believe otherwise, then you are limited; your environment then represents the sum total of knowledge and experience. As long as you believe your environment to be objective and independent of yourself, then to a large extent you feel powerless to change it, to see beyond it, or to imagine other alternatives that may be less apparent. I have also discussed reincarnation in terms of environment because many schools of thought over-emphasize the effects of reincarnational existences, so that often they explain present-life circumstances as a result of rigid and uncompromising patterns determined in a past life. You will feel relatively incompetent to handle present physical reality, to alter your environment, to affect and change your world, if you feel that you are at the mercy of conditions over which you have no control. The reasons given for such subjugations matter little in the long run, for the reasons change with the times and with your culture. You are not under a sentence placed upon you for original sin, by any childhood events, or by past-life experience. Your life, for example, may be far less fulfilling than you think you would prefer. You may be less when you would be more, but you are not under a pall placed upon your psyche, either by original sin, Freud's infancy syndromes, or past-life influences. I will try to explain the last life influences a bit more clearly here. The affect you as any experience does. Time is not closed, however - it is open. One life is not buries in the past, disconnected from the present self and any future self as well. As I explained earlier, the loves or the plays are happening at once. Creativity and consciousness are never linear achievements. In each life you choose and create your own settings or environments; and in this one you chose your parents and whatever childhood incidents that came within your experience. You wrote the script. Like a true absent-minded professor, the conscious self forgets all this, so when tragedy appears in the script, difficulty or challenges, the conscious self looks for someone or something to blame. Before this book is done I hope to show you precisely how you create each minute of your experience so that you can begin to exert your true creative responsibility on a conscious level - or nearly so. As you read this book, now and then look about you at the room in which you sit. Chairs and tables, the ceilings and the floors, may seem very real and solid - quite permanent - while you by contrast may feel yourself to be highly vulnerable, caught in a moment between birth and extinction. You may even feel jealous when you think of it, imagining that the physical universe will continue to exist long after you are gone. By the end of our book, however, I hope you will realize the eternal validity of your own consciousness, and the impermanence of those physical aspects of your environment, and of your universe, that now seem so secure.
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So I just had a MIND BLOWING AMAZING Mushroom Trip, I realized that I was God all along , I am literally love itself, as Alan Watts said, I am it, and for the first time ever, I felt it. I felt like I know the secret: Love. It was love all along <3 As amazing as this felt , I felt the best I have ever felt in my entire life. However, now I don't how to word this: Do other people exist ? What are my family ? Are they beings equivalent to me ? Are they me? Are we all souls walking each other home on this plane called Life / Lila ? I love everyone, But what is behind other people ? Is there a paradox that I am missing ? When I have fun with friends or a loving meal with my family, is there anyone loving it with me ? Is this the cost of enlightenment? , Is it right that God would feel lonely on Earth ? If I die , do my family still live on Earth ? Is there beings that still go on this Journey after me ? Is reincarnation real? I would LOVE ADVICE , Thanks so much
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Nahm replied to omar30's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Knew you were gonna say that. Took years to get that nonduality is all that is, and there is no reincarnation, and yet I’m talking with ‘dead’ people standing right in front of me, which are much more ‘real’ as in vivid etc, than ‘regular real’, so to speak. The issue with communicating this goes back to the thoughts. When you’re reading what I’m saying thoughts arise, and the direct experience pointed to can’t be thought. But can be experienced. The movies Interstellar and The Arrival are more or less about this. -
well, we live in a world of crazed, superficial people, where it is almost impossible not to become a very stupid neurotic, and the more stupid, the smarter you think you are. a world of crazy teenagers, another world of slaves of the industrial revolution, and another of hopeless wretches, all of them prisoneers of the ego. Almost better be the miserable than the rich. The truth is that it does not seem very beautiful, for me better being born in the Paleolithic and dying at 17, but this is what there is, so let's make the most of it and pray that there is no reincarnation, if not, statistically, in the giveaway gon 'get you some horrible shit
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happyhappy replied to happyhappy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
thanks Brandon, soo, with that point of yours , let's say... i have several mystical enlightenment experiences and along the way... i die. so does that means we get to start where i stopped or do i have to start afresh on a new life..( this is in the light of the belief that reincarnation as a soul exists at the level of duality tho it is illusory and non existent in a higher perspective of non -duality) -
Well it's possible that you reincarnate into another plane of existence in the same body, like heaven for christian. Doesn't change the fact that you as God is imagining that too, as so many other beliefs like reincarnation in Buddhism. It doesn't matter what happens after death, it's still something you imagine, cause nothing else exist than imagination Now I see a lot of people conflating the absolute versus the relative, it's fair to assume than when the body dies, the ego associated with it dies too, and that's a legit thing to be scared about (spiritual bypassing this by holding a non dual belief isn't helping you in any way). What we're saying is that you can realize you're not the ego, and therefore death isn't so scary anymore, cause it's just an event inside infinity/God/You.