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It mostly comes with the new-age religion as a one package deal. A few, however, claim to have experienced it. And while I don't necessarily deny that, I still doubt the interpretations they give of what they actually experienced. I think most people who reach these experiences necessarily lack the proper metaphysical or even just logical foundation to ground their interpretations in. Most of the times the interpretations are flimsy and vague. Materialism on the other hand does not deny reincarnation. This is clear in genetics, but not exclusive to it. But what materialism denies is the concept of a soul that gets incarcerated to begin with. In a sense, it seems materialism has reached non-duality in this specific matter.

You never born in first place realization of that is nirvana. Did you have any idea what was reincarnation before this so called life?

Reading Lsd and the Mind of the Universe right now, he takes reincarnation as a basic fact of nature. Then he goes on to talk about the Elderly Council and all this elaborate stuff that to me seems like nonsense because even if it were "true" (this kind of elaborate afterlife with soul groups and whatnot), it's like "you" will never really remember it (for long enough) so basically it doesn't exist or carries no relevancy, and we are always stuck in this oh so perfect reality.

Good question. Try to look at a post talking about reincarnation and ask yourself "how do they know?" "If they don't know - Are they aware it's just an assumption?" "If they are aware that it's just an assumption - why would they write what they wrote? Are they actually contemplating or just mentally masturbating?" Besides - if you can prove that you can't ever really die you still don't know whether the next experience will be a "reincarnation" similar to this one or if it's gonna be some sort of stage-blue-like heaven/hell or some crazy unimaginable shit. Astral projection can't really prove it either - I've had very intense, insane experiences of "other realms" - can't really know if it's relevant to what will come after this life. You can become conscious of whether the dreams you have at night are as real as this reality - while dreaming "normal reality" is just a concept similar to how now "a memory of the dreams I have at night" is just a thought / concept happening in my mind (nothing wrong with thoughts just it's not the same as experience through other sense doors). I don't really know whether reincarnation is real. I'd be just assuming so. I haven't even realized whether it's possible to die or not. But I've had some nice experiences of "other realms" as I said above. Always assume everything you say / anyone else says is full of shit.

For me personally, it's a couple of things: 1) Two spiritual teachers I have a lot of respect for, the Buddha and Adyashanti, have talked about how they saw many of their past lives after they became enlightened; and 2) I've been told about many of my own past lives by two people I trust and have a lot of respect for. So I tend to believe in reincarnation, though I can't say that I know that it's a fact. I don't think it's especially important, either, I think life is all about this moment, right now, and obsessing about past lives can become just another distraction from what's really important.

In an absolute sense, of course reincarnation is nonsense. Just as for example, rape is nonsense and impossible. Because we are all one and thus all have one will. So if one of us wills something, we all will it. And since you can't rape the willing, a logical consequence of that is that rape is utterly impossible. Likewise, reincarnation is also impossible because we're one(whereas reincarnation requires us to be many). But notice the perspective that believes in rape has relative validity because we're in a dream that depends on duality. Likewise, reincarnation may be valid in a relative sense, but it ultimately has to be nonsense. Because after all, if reincarnation is a real experience that just means it's something we're imagining anyway(just like all of reality).

Ego=Life=Death=Reincarnation=Thought=Knowing=Learning. God=Not knowing.

Everything indicates that human life is a learning process. reincarnation would be the logical step to complete the process. this is not to say that none of this is true, but it seems

my stage yellow understanding of this, Dr. Ian Stevenson's work! he has spent his entire life scientifically documenting those who claimed past lives. and many near death experiences (NDE) reveal something about this model. and there are new-agey folks who make a living by reading past lives of people! coming on to spirituality, even Leo though not suggested directly, alludes to the past lives model in many videos. Osho and Sadhguru frankly claims this is to be the case! Eckhart Tolle also hints on reincarnation. There's Buddhist model of rebirth and karma .it is very similar to reincarnation in Hinduism and ,Jainism. Sikhism also adopts the past lives model .In Jewish mysticism, the concept of reincarnation appears on kabbalah. there is also historical evidence which says that even Jesus taught reincarnation ,whereas these teachings were banned and bibles rewritten later on. maybe , these were independent findings. it is very possible that all the masters of religions came to the same conclusions after their own findings! even after all those evidence, yess it will still be hearsay as long as we have it in our direct experience!

No reincarnation. Just incarnation. Check it - a baby was just born, guess who the baby is? It's us, suckaaaa.

All that "reincarnation" means is change of form after (supposed) death. That's it. So either there will be a change of this apparent form at some point, or there won't. What do you think? (And if your answer is that future, change and form are nothing but mental concepts, you get an extra cookie for being a good nondual boyscout. )

At the most basic level, if a dream popped up once, why couldn't it happen again? I mean seriously... What is more likely, the 0.00000000(to infinity)1% chance that you managed to spring into existence and it's a one and done deal, or that the same mechanism where you spontaneously appeared could happen again? There's also apparently objective data giving authority to the idea of reincarnation - children recalling specific details of past lives, or how their last life ended and the researchers being able to verify that information. Overall, my thinking is why wouldn't it happen again if it already happened once? At a higher level, there is no reincarnation. The flow of experience just flows. To suggest there was ever a "life" that was "incarnated" to begin with is a misperception of perception. Therefore, when the physical body dies, this says nothing about the flow of experience already present and the fact that this flow of experience is utterly independent of the physical body. Nothing actually dies, just changes.

soooo, why is he still not addressing the stuff in Buddhism like karma and reincarnation the way Buddha and Hindu sages did. he seems to be offering slight hints at this but still keeps away from going to details..?any reasons why ?

Ye, the Difference is though, Hinduism celebrates life , but Buddha wanted to wake up from the cycle of reincarnation once and for all.

How do I break free from thos cycle of ongoing reincarnation into different forms? Namaste

This episode is really awesome. Goes into past lives and also the possible essences of what religion was always trying to point to.

@RMQualtrough i define death as a point of no return. If they came back, were they really dead? I am not saying there is reincarnation, but your asuming the universe is a liniar mechanism? For all we know you might just be god imagining the whole universe and i am just you playing wordgames with yourself on a forum you imagined

Honestly, no one really knows anything until they’re done. And that’s only if one is absolutely laser focused on enlightenment. It’s all a dream until then. I wouldn’t say that if it had any chance of waking anyone up, because I do not prefer that anyone does, and you’ll probably hear it at some point here anyway. There are all sorts of other non-enlightenment paths though, all disguised as enlightenment. If it aims to help you, it’s got nothing at all to do with enlightenment. Enlightenment progress: how intolerably inauthentic you feel, as you’re increasingly seeing there’s no true self. Consciousness progress: how fulfilled your unceasing activity is. I guess? ? Oh and by fear of death I really mean fear of non-being. Not fear of body death — you can simply patch that with a little faith in reincarnation or a deep trust in a loving god plus a genuine desire to do good. Fear of non-being is the true test and it’s insurmountable by anything, other than facing fear, all fear, head-on. You can love everyone and everything to death and it will barely even put a dent in this fear — in fact it might not even show its face because you’ll be hiding it at your deepest core to keep from even encountering it. If you ever do awaken, if you remember this, you’ll see why fear of non-being (no-self) was always the big daddy of all fear. Other fears basically serve to distract from this fear — that’s how pervasive it is. And no one knows it. That’s how deeply it is hidden away, and for good reason.

I had some insights and experiences recently around spirits, reincarnation, plant medicine and the Buddhist wheel - so that would make me new to Buddhism. I am not looking for enlightenment, I find the other stuff more interesting. If I get it, I get it, if I don't in this life, I am okay with that. But what I want to know, is when communicating with someone, what is a good way to determine how far we each have gotten? I don't like the idea of talking like I know more than I do to someone; what is a good measurement? Surely there must be something. I'm more into shamanism, so, for me, it won't be enlightenment or present awareness that I would be adept at, but traversing spiritual planes of existence I can do very well; albeit, always room for improvement. I'm at the point where I know more than I thought about myself, but certainly not much, still, when compared to how much there is to understand about reality. So now I have no idea; I over-humbled myself and don't want to over-do what I "think" I know, either, as that's a recipe for not learning anything new. Thanks! I hope I worded this alright.

My limited experiences have pointed towards humans having destinies, or pre-programmed stories, that can sometimes deviate. When I do, I experience it as archetypes that move through and influence the human system, through the subconscious via words and stories. Some archetypes are very small and don't influence much, and some are aeonic in size and "gravity" - such as wetiko; culture and the illusion of fear. I feel it as different stories playing out in the "Other" space, like the image below, or like a machine that creates one action after another after another in order to maximize the ability to witness itself in the physical world. To have influence. My first awakening was spontaneous and I was not spiritual and I was told this: that people are chosen to wake up before birth, there is a certain process about it that I don't understand, but I know reincarnation, the wheel of life, archetypes play a role. Some people never wake up, they have to take another ride a few times to get it. Love is the answer to all of it; destiny, everything. It is protection, solution, the teaching and destiny. When I let go, it feels like another consciousness comes in, and sometimes asks to take the wheel. Sometimes it is the higher self, or sometimes an archetype that is playing out, or sometimes a being with a message. When this happens, I can channel it through my artwork or writing. ^ This talks about it. "We stay off the grid, hide between the lines, to them we are only shadows until we meet eventually."

If there is no actual separate soul, then anything that involves it is a dream. There aren't any limits to what can be imagined to happen in a dream. Therefore, reincarnation can be real while not being absolutely true.

You can be cryogenically frozen when you're dead. If magically humans never just extinct themselves with bombs etc, maybe a dead person could be brought back from this procedure. If they are then currently a squirrel, do they then disappear from the squirrel leaving it a paperweight and return to their own revived human body? Which btw from that brain's perspective would just be like having undergone general anaesthesia. Lol.

But me as God then, will I ever have an existence in a corporeal from in which I will have total control over reality? Or am I eternally doomed to reincarnation into different corporeal forms without having the ability to control reality? Like for example to decide that there won't be aging, illnes etc.?

Even if there is a sort of reincarnation, I take it you probably don’t remember your previous life, right? If that’s the case, then you probably won’t remember this one — i.e. it will be like you never existed, if you do reincarnate, though in that case of course “you” reincarnating is a bit nonsensical.

There are levels of enlightenment. Google Jan esmann. But there's a limit which we can surpass on the astral plane once we finish our reincarnation circle on the physical plane. Source: the Michael Teachings and the wingmakers website.