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Hi Leo, Just a thought. Are you not short selling the concept of becoming a sage or getting enlightened etc. by sticking to "one life" concept? I understand that if this world is an illusion then so is life and death from that angle. But is "getting best out of rest of the life" enough reason to motivate individuals to start this tough journey when next breath one takes could be the last one? Do not you think putting this in some other way like “this is the only way out of this endless hell in which consciousness keeps changing forms forever” may be more motivational? In this case it doesn’t matter how old one is or how long one will live in this body, this journey of self-realization has to be started at some point as there is no other way out of it. And if self-realization is not attained in this life then it will continue in next life form without losing the hard work from previous life. I know no one can claim the truth of this concept but hey this can motivate even if someone is at the deathbed. Yes, actualize.org has lot of similarities to Sikhism. But reincarnation is the central theme in Sikhism like most other eastern religions. Hell is coming back into forms and merging back with the source is the Heaven. I'll really appreciate your response to this post. Thank You.

Nobody dies, people that get ran over by bus and so on are just your constructs, there is only 1 that changes its form and consciousness and it is eternal in you. You dying naturally is you becoming enough realized to forget about your body/who you are, stepping in front of the bus is you not loving yourself enough/accepting yourself enough / creating hellish reality for yourself which is a dangerous thing since freewill and non acceptance of yourself is not a joke. There is a reason why you wake up in this world with 0 remembrance, there is a reason why all the guru's lead you to the path of realization , there is a reason all the gurus tell you to love god and so on. To love god/yourself is to fully accept yourself, the more you love yourself/accept yourself all the lies/deceptions/insanity and so on the better your reality becomes. Reincarnation= you didn't accept/love yourself for eternity, loving yourself is the hardest thing since you literally have to accept everything the good and the bad, insanity and so on

@Vibes 1.Death is just a change in consciousness, you letting go of the body/killing yourself is you suffering and surrendering to god fully. After that you become god and forget who you were, because you didn't accept/love yourself you will incarnate your consciousness from god mode to physical reality that you make up. You can't stay as god as this is too great of a responsibility and only full acceptance and love of yourself for eternity will allow you to stay as god forever. From god mode you just have to imagine a reality, for example: You imagine that you're on a planet and you're from an advanced alien civilization that's is basically all. When you imagine yourself into this character, everything from there will be constructed in the presence on the go around you. 2. Another possibility is that after you suicide/kill yourself, you can be stuck as brains or another form of consciousness in the same reality. Because you didn't die let go of your body naturally you can be stuck in the same reality as a form of consciousness, this is what free will is. God realization is the deconstruction of the reality/evolving beyond yourself, so if you as ego/dream character don't know much after reincarnation the reality might become what you believed in. Gods free will is a scary thing. But i think it's most likely the 1st possebility @OsaidIt is only hell if you can't fully accept yourself as god, this means accepting insanity and everything that is inside of you it also means letting go of everything. It also means accepting all the control and freedom you get, which is huge. Being god is such a big responsibility that there is nobody to take it.

@Twentyfirst Agreed, I have to say Tupac Shakur embody this understanding so well in one of his quotes, which quite frankly is pretty egoless, "I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." Or in Leo's case, the brains. It's a slow process, and in spiral dynamics and in this spiritual journey, we can't get attached to results. Easier said than done, but I'm extremely impressed by his content and forever grateful. Maybe a small change, but I can objectively say, I treat every living thing including myself in a more conscious manner and in a better way. Also, if you believe in reincarnation, Sadhguru has mentioned he's been trying to change the world across multiple lifetimes , and in previous lifetimes even failing at his goals.

What say ye, o' wise ones? Speculation and total BS 100% allowed.

@vishnusavestheday If you just forget everything about yourself we cannot really call it reincarnation, its an endless experience of living for the first time. I would be willing to forget absolutely everything I have learned in this life because this knowledge is so deep and true that in the next life, I would simply find it again. God cannot escape itself. Maybe it really just is a very deep level of surrender and self-acceptance i.e. love

awakening is something that happens, not something you become aware of. it is a fundamental difference. in the awakening, the you that searches, that analyzes, that plans, stops, and reality manifests itself. the limits dissolve and existence is. You cannot look for it because the fact of looking is a limit, you can carry out actions and have attitudes that promote this event. You keep hitting the wall every day until one day the ice breaks, you change frequency, you go from software to hardware. After , all that talking about solipsism, reincarnation, etc., they are conceptualizations that you create when you re-install yourself in the software and analyze. you cannot tell if they are false, only that they belong to the realm of the conceptual mind. what you want is not to know things with your conceptual mind, it is to pause the mind and be without limits for a while each day. then, if you are smart, I think you will stop trying to know when you are in the conceptual mind and just enjoy life, since trying to know is greed, or as sellingwaterriver would say, contraction. there is only one thing to know: what you are and being unlimited reality tells you everything you need to know because it tells you what you are. That's it, you already know everything, the rest is irrelevant. reincarnation or solipsism has the same importance as the next apartment you are going to live in. relative importance. Belongs to the realm of the mundane. Could be interesting to know those things, same it's interesting to know about politics. But that's not spirituality. Spirituality is just become limitless.

Over the last months I have sunk deeper into mysticism and awareness. Just recently I had an abstract experience with 5MeoDMT last week where everything I was aware of dissolved into one primordial liquid, a field of endless possibilities and manifestations, it was both scary and majestic. I stumbled upon the Seth material the other day, a woman who learned to channel a trans-dimensional intelligence who she calls "Seth",, I am not yet entirely sure if thats really possible but clearly the lady knows her shit and its been a fascinating read so far. Tho they place a huge emphasis on the idea of reincarnation and a persistent individual soul. The way I see it, our bodies and experiences share within the same soul, the one god that makes up all of reality. For me, to begin to conceptualize the idea of individual souls would bring conflicts of separation from the one source of it all. What are your thoughts?

@Water by the River yyesterday I had an awakening experience, and today I was thinking in what you use to say about enlightenment. I wrote this: yesterday I had an experience that I can't call anything other than enlightenment. I have been thinking a lot about states of consciousness, awakening, understanding, and I was clear to me hat everything is a matter of levels of depth, and that these are infinite. Yesterday morning I took 20 ug of lsd, low but it has a profound effect on me. it allows me to interact with people but at the same time be in an open state, with the flavor of lsd fully present. around 8:00 p.m. in a park I smoked a single puff of weed. I sat down and started thinking about the couple, the sex, and suddenly, something happened. my mind opened completely. the mental flow stopped completely and my being opened, like a plant, leaving an empty hole inside. suddenly, there was no more human, there was no more mind, zero. there was only existence. bright, pure, limitless. laughter. that was. that's it. nothing to understand, nothing to know, all that belongs to the human mind, any comprehension was implicit in existing, there were no more questions, this is what I am, life or death does not matter, reincarnation or whatever, they are all mental stories. brilliance, perfection, recognition of myself as a completely impersonal, free, unlimited existence. nothing to interpret, I stayed in that state for a couple of hours, smiling. that is what I was looking for, the complete purity of the existence that I am. It is not a high state of consciousness, it is the complete purity of consciousness. It cannot be raised any higher because it is beyond the levels, it is simply the total absence of mental contamination. is to be. It is complete joy, my true nature, it cannot be better, there is no more ambition. It is something that if you tell someone, they will find it boring, lacking in content, lacking in future prospects. it is simply being, but same time it's everything. But now I'm doubting. Let's see , Maybe more depth is possible. It's extremely beautiful, so it could became addictive.

reincarnation means death dosent exist you just are born then born then born then born

It finally clicked. I was trying to solve this riddle for about a year. What I really find interesting of Leo Gura is the use of tautolgy as his methodolgy. Solipsism is a tautology. Experience is absolute truth as experience is absolute = solipsism. The inherent quality of something makes it true, that´s why through a leap of councioussness you know that experience is concioussness, because it IS a leap of councioussness = tautolgy = true. Then I came across a video about Wittgenstein, who disproved solipsism. The prove goes around those lines. If we feel sad and can say that we feel ourselves sad, it´s because we can attribute a particular state of our experience or concioussness, which would be sadness, to a word, which would be sad. But we had to learn this word at the first place. Because instead of saying "sadness" one could use his own word "Dickintheass". So there has to be someone else, with his own and other experience and therefore councioussnes of sadness prior to us explaining to us that the state of sadness is called "sadness". So we´ve come across two absolute trues that are in direct opposition to each other. So how do we solve this? There had to be a hypothetical first person to have had this first conciouss experience of "sadness" and to attribute a particular word for this experience, so for being capable of that he needed understanding, for understanding he needed concioussness, his concioussness was absolute for him, we could say that it was his absolute solipsistic concioussness and that´s why reincarnation is real in an infinite echochamber of absolute solipsistic concioussnesses giving in this example, the word "sadness" through generations and generations of one´s self, splitted apart. It has to be this way, because love couldn´t exist any other way. If there is no one to share with, than there is no one to love. Eventhough I´m still not so sure about that part, as love is also the reunification of everything. Maybe through the process of loving we all unficate into one single being, but I got no prove for that, that´s just speculating, but it would awnser the question of meaning. It also makes me wonder if all this proving is also a direct metaphor pointing at me, because I´ve thought for myself, what if all absolute trues are just metaphorical understandings in disguise, but that´s quite psychotic and dark and I would classify it as insanity, which quite frankly, I like to tap in here and there, but after 3 months of a psychotic episode, I feel this inherent quality of one´s self deception getting caught in an absolute relative solipsistic trap, because at the end you get into the trap of "Absolute knowing is impossible and that is absolute" without having any evidence and spinning one´s own stories. I would attribute this to serious trust issues I have, but I´m working on that through going through the earth chakra.

It's hard to believe in God, reincarnation, intelligence, heaven or something. Yet I believe, but when it comes to choosing between this world and taking a leap of faith and jumping into that, I can't. Yet I want to end this meaningless and painful existence that can only get worse from here. Asap. But it ain't working. I can't live and grow nor can I die. Is my additional suffering and years spent here on Earth going to contribute to a better afterlife or can I die any time and have the same good fortune in another life? It is hard to even believe in this sometimes. I read stuff on Quora, and Reddit, but hard to believe.

Even if that occurs, nothing prevents God from dreaming new dreams. That would just be a temporary pause from dreaming. The present moment is Eternity. Be careful not to limit Eternity to an empty state. Your toilet is Eternity too. From what I understand Consciousness is always free to stop or start dreaming. In effect this results in "reincarnation". You can think of it like a TV screen that can always be on, or could be switched off or on in any sequence or duration. In this view Mahasamadhi would be like leaving your TV off while you go on vacation for the summer. But summer passes in the blink of an eye and soon you're back wielding the remote.

@jimwell I agree that the basic principle of Buddhism, escaping from suffering, stopping the wheel of reincarnations to melt into nirvana sounds cowardly and anti-life. as well as dogmatic. reincarnation wheel? nirvana? concepts. I don't believe in them, are just ideas that Buddhism tell you to believe busism has a highly negative basis: life is a problem from which one must escape. that is completely false. reality is for love, and buddhism is sad negativity. Suffering is love .

Hey All, Again, this is not my personal experience but rather intellectual understanding based on my reading of trip reports and Leo's/Other Guru's videos. Here it is. Leo has been reincarnated. Leo and all those who have had "breakthroughs" on DMT/SHROOM/LSD etc trips. How so? Leo, as well as other people's trip reports I have read say this: "I died." That is how they see the truth. upon their death. Call it ego-death or whatever, but as Leo has said this many times - ego-death vs our normal definition of physical death, are really the same thing. Ego-Death isn't anything less than the "REAL-Physical" death of a person. Now where is the "reincarnation"? Many trip reports I have read, people say that they spent an eternity in that state of one-ness, of eternal bliss or whatnot etc before "returning" back to their bodies. Now people say this also, that when we are born, we "choose" to incarnate in a certain body, knowing all well what we intend to do in that lifetime of the person we are being born as. So what we can say is this, when people who just take these substances have a breakthrough experience where they have an ego-death - they then "choose" to come back to this reality. They come back fresh from having downloaded all those insights in their heads. All the questions answered. and with that knowledge etched in their subconsious, they are usually in that bliss-full state for the 1st few days / weeks after that breakthrough trip. Slowly they integrate back to the earthly life (those who are not on the spirtual path more quickly than the one who has taken the subtance knowing about this) so basically, their previous self before the trip is literally dead. They come back as the "new" version/life of themselves. and this is no different than reincarnation. unsure what mechanism is upon physical-death where the body dies and there isn't anything to return back to... then you maybe "choose" or incarnate near the timeline of ur death... except when we incarte after physical-death, this is done in baby-infant form. where all those insights that we know of, and even the memory of that place, is all lost. even in a fully grown adult state, the experince is barely recalled and whatever is recalled is also said to be a mere pointer and not even 1% of what was witnessed. i feel like this maybe all over the place but yeah, my insight about this is in here somewhere i hope

Change your name because the recent reincarnation of mahavatar , haidakhan babaji said there are no aliens and that we were only ones in this universe. Calling me names while you didnt even researched mahavatar babaji properly. Ahahaha ?

I had a psychedelic trip where there was this sense of rebirth and death over and over again in different lifes. I took 400 ug of 1P-LSD and locked myself in a completely dark room for about 6 hours and did nothing. Honestly I have very blur memories of the experience because it was a lot of shit to process. But there was this recurring theme of rebirth and death over and over again, also my personal identify took some radical shifts to the point I wasn't even myself anymore. At some points I thought I was insane to the point of no return. This was about a month and a half ago and I still don't know what to make of it. Anyway, any thoughts on reincarnation or any useful sources to investigate more about this topic? or are this just traps of the mind. Thanks for any reply!

If you die and you understand what you are you wont die or will remain conscious after you die. If you dont you will lose control of your consciousness become unconscious and be forced into a reincarnation through manipulation by the aliens or whatever the fuck it is can keep you trapped and recycle your infinite energy. But they can't force you if you know what you are. If the earth keeps on this path that means your lives will get worse and worse as the planet gets worse and worse and you will be perma trapped until God saves you Its literally the most important thing you could be doing

I always strategically try to do the least work as possible to get results as fast as possible. Whatever work I am able to do don't even come close to what I understand by simply watching Leo do it. I do make a lot of progress, but comparing with Leo there is 20 times more to go as much as I have come. So it is simply more efficient to watch Leo when he already did most of the work for me. It's just being strategic not lazy. I want to know about reincarnation, aliens and demons. I want to know the farthest extend of goodness and evil. I want to know what's the worst that can happen? Real mythical shit. But I don't want a cultural dogma attached to it. That ruins all the fun.

What is a soul? How to best define it? Does a soul have a personality of its own? What I mean here is, just like people are different at the level of their mind dew to their learning and personality, are two people different at the level of their soul dew to certain traits? What is a spirit? The difference between soul, spirit and pure consciousness. Why are we born? Is reincarnation true? If so, why are we reincarnated again and again? Do moksha ( end of reincarnation ) a true? Thank You.

He is the reincarnation of Kant.

Maybe someone who understands those religions can advise, but I do believe reincarnation and the "cycle of death and rebirth" has nothing at all to do with a soul being with you at birth and leaving at death and entering another thing like an animal. I believe they are probably referring to change moment to moment. So any thought changing in your head is death and rebirth. And karma rather than being about doing good or bad is their word for cause and effect.

According to Leo’s solipsism reincarnation and such doesn’t exist. It is a dream within a dream.

you can function from a silent and open state, understand things and then reason them out and put them into words. For example, when Buddha says that there is a reincarnation cycle, is he doing mind masturbation?

Because, what is reincarnated when there is no such thing as a self(ego)? Yet these two concepts of "no self" and "reincarnation" are compatible in many spiritual traditions and religions it seems. Buddhism for example. Probably a newbie question that's already discussed a number of times. Sorry for that, but I'm curios.