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Vercingetorix replied to ElenaO's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@ElenaO maybe something like " are you sure this is best way to do this? in my opinion/experience it's better done this way". It's true that it's tricky to be sincere without bringing the ego/judgment to the equation, but it can be learnt with experience. I also work in a place that everyone look at me like I'm an alien when I mention meditation, but still when I say what I think, even if everyone laughts at me or think I'm crazy, I'm not withholding what I wanna say and it makes me free so much that I don't really care about others opinions. -
Harikrishnan replied to The Universe's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Krishna is an alien?, how the hell can he do all those beautiful things he was perfection. From what i heard Budha to had a teacher for 3 years or more. and he had lot of teachers grace on him and good past life deeds that abled him to attain Nirvana. Internet can never be a teacher. Internet can only bring you teachers?. You need a good teacher to move forward. Hindus say this" And when time is right;Teachers comes to u" -
Nahm replied to Hero in progress's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's a movie that came to DVD last week. It's in the sci-fi / alien category, but the movie itself is about communication. The aliens don't know English, so a communications expert and a quantum physics theorist teach the aliens some English while learning the way the aliens communicate. It came to mind because I have never seen a better example of stripping communication down to nothing and building it. It's a good movie overall as well. I won't spoil it, but in it's theme of communication, it also incorporates nonlinear time and some qm principles. -
@Ramu Nice work, Stay centered even if others are projecting a bad day. See it as an opportunity to practice your practice. You mentioned the "alien thread" Ra? Yea, I gotta back off that too after a while. I was listening to the audio book on youtube. A bit much detail about spacecraft, ect. but the overall message of love/Light/Light/Love is beautiful. Here is a summery of the basic message if you haven't seen it yet. Just to mention something I thought was interesting. He talks about the Law of Free Will". We even choose when to incarnate so that we can work on ourselves and move on to the next higher density.
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Its amazing, this journey!! 20 years ago I would have denied everything anyone told me about spirituality. I had a friend by the name of Kari, who was into self inquiry and spirituality and I secretly thought she was full of shit. Now I know she was right on point. I don't know if I'm enlightened, and I'm pretty sure I have awoken. Despite this, no matter how polite I am, people still act like rude assholes. No problem I think, they're basically unhappy and are fearful. Afraid of life, afraid of others, afraid of death. They get pummeled by negative news designed to keep you in fear. One day I was on the bus stressing over the same old bullshit and then it just occurred to me that I was tired of worrying all the time. So I stopped. I've had enlightenment experiences, to be told later. I was reading the alien thread by Leo, and to be honest, was frustrated with it. However, today even though I was really frustrated with all "this crap", I spontaneously thanked the plow guy for keeping the sidewalks clear. It markedly made his day, even though that wasn't my end game. Today I feel clear and clarified and the most I've been in touch with "me", presence, being, spirit, god, consciousness, or whatever word you want to use. In short, I think that being relaxed, and even skeptical to a certain point brings you back full circle to ones True Self. Namaste to you all.
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PureExp replied to PureExp's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Nahm That was deep, perhaps in an alien language -
alyra replied to alyra's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
you mean the alien thriller that's showing now, called Arrival? or something else - in which case could you provide a link? -
Principium Nexus posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
We all have the feeling of being embodied in the body of flesh and blood. This body is how we interact with the world and in a dualistic point of view the separation of "I am" and reality outside of us. The physical body is a temporary embodiment of the stuff the entire universe is made of, so you are litterally made of the universe and not from some alien material that is only you. The universe could be seen as a vast ocean of water with many ripples and waves, those waves are still the ocean but viewed from an observer reflecting upon itself have distinct identities. Living creatures could be seen as droplets that temporary live in their own sphere or embodiment until this returns to it's normal resting state. Dualism is created when we embody or conceptualize something because this is the starting point of having separation. Now since you are a temporary embodiment of reality you are practically separated and cannot know anything outside yourself. You can only know your thoughts or your reflection upon some elses thoughts. You can never really absolutely know what they imagine or want to say in the fullest form, it is all an approximation of reflecting upon your experience and knowledge to make sense of what they say or how you experience things to be. Non-duality is the exact opposite and tells us that you don't have any body, there is no separation and you experience whole reality without any relative standpoint in any moment in space and time. It's completely timeless, infinite and void in experience, but practically speaking (there comes the ego again..) survival in a dualistic world cannot succeed without an ego or dualistic thinking. Only death can release this embodied reality to it's infinite void again. Nothing is experienced without body, only an infinite void of oneness. Reality is wrapped around your body because your senses only reach as far as the edges of your body. Even sight might create the illusion of seeing and experiencing something in the distance, this is not true. There is really no distance between you and anything you experience, sight is projected on your retina and experienced at the nerve ends. This might sound very obvious but have you really thought about what this means about the experience of distance? Distance is only created in the mind since the 2D projection of sight has no depth, the universe is wrapped around you like a 2D sheet and only time and memory of the past give it a 3D illusion. The shape of your body is important because it will not only help in a physical sense but also in your mental perception. The body acts like a lens which is made of the same material as all of reality and projects from both focal point a virtual image that we experience as the ego. Metaphorically speaking training and keeping your body fit creates a stronger more powerful lens, whereas the perspective of the mind sets what to look for and how to focus this into your being. I hope someone might find this usefull, some things are really obvious but this stuff goes really deep to what experience is made of. It's not about the content, it's how it gets interpreted. EDIT: Cells are like cosmic foam, temporary bubbles that encapsulated reality in a distinct body -
Guest replied to Peace and Love's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Peace and Love Taller than I assumed. Yeah, admittedly he's also on my list of 20 some-odd crushes at any given moment. I am positive that in some reality variant he is most certainly an alien. Probably this reality, tbh. Lol, and in another reality we are all the aliens. And in another, this forum is where we all teach Leo essential lifeskills. -
Peace and Love replied to Peace and Love's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@BabyBat Well..I sure think Leo is the cutest alien I've ever seen! Too bad he's taken though. I'm thankful for his really big head because it holds ALOT of information.....really good useful information that we all use here! I'm really not convinced he's an alien though....maybe if he painted himself green, and had some antenna sticking out his head...looking like he was the character Piccolo from Dragon Ball Z I might be convinced..... lol jk Are really sure he's an alien though?? He looks pretty proportionate to me.... and wait a minute.........What if he's not the alien.....but we're the ALIENS?!?!? (Mind Explodes from Enlightenment Experience!!!) -
Objects do not exist on their own, including atoms. So in short, nothing exists independently of a conscious observer. Says who? Of course, scientists themselves ! The observation paradox of quantum mechanics proves it nicely, and it is unchallenged since 100 years now. All we have is more and more confirmation that matter is illusory. One can however infer that there is a "field" of potentiality which is actually identical to the consciousness we experience every second intimately. So if you wish to call it matter, doesn't matter, go ahead, its just us . The latest trend in Physics is to model the physical universe as simulation. So the world becomes a virtual reality, just like a game in the computer. There is ample indication that it is so. But where is the computer? You might ask, and the answer is simple - consciousness is the computer and player and everything. As Tom Campbell puts it in a pithy way - Reality = Information. R=I. Ok, now about science and scientists, my personal opinions (if worth anything) is that scientists are also people, some are very bright and are leaders, some are dull and orthodox. The top row scientists, if you read their books or quotes etc, sound like mystical sages. So I can assure you that like in any field of human activity, science is also ruled by human nature, you don't need to conspiracy theory to explain it. Science does look a bit alien to people who never studied math and science, but it is only a hole in their knowledge, should not take much time to get an elementary knowledge of science and scientific method. (In the same way for those who never studied law, a legal document is incomprehensible, but we don't say that they want to keep it hidden from people). In the end, we need to judge it by how useful it is. As far as technology is concerned, which is a result of great scientific insights, it is very useful indeed, who can argue about that?. It has made our lives worth living, liberated us from the shackles of superstition and manipulation by those who took unfair advantage of our ignorance. But as a belief system, science is useless, just like any other belief system. If you think it is "truth" and nothing but truth, you will stop progressing, the belief will retard your growth. So the bottom line is - we need to make use of our own intelligence, discrimination, vivek to know what is best for us.
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Telepresent replied to Samuel Garcia's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Samuel Garcia I'm not enlightened, I'm not an authority on what is 'true' or not, but your question prompted a little thought experiment in my head which provides a metaphorical answer to your question. Let's start by removing ourselves from humanity, so we don't get too personal about this. Let's say humanity flat out doesn't exist. Never did, never will. Instead, there is an advanced alien species. Let's call them the Krull. The Krull have a life span of 200 years. They have figured out suspended animation, which allows them to put their bodies into hibernation for long periods of time. They have also figured out how to directly implant a virtual reality into the brain - so films and other kinds of entertainment can be experienced from a first person perspective: You experience the film AS the main character with all the senses engaged, not just sight and sound. The Krull are interested in interstellar travel, but they can't travel faster than light. This means some pioneering Krull have volunteered to go on a one-way mission to the nearest star - a journey which will take 75 years. The spaceship is tiny to save on fuel and resources - no bigger than the space shuttle. A 75 year voyage on that would drive anyone mad! So to save our heroes' sanity (& minimise food), they are to go into suspended animation. But to keep their brains from deteriorating from non-use for such a long time, they need to be plugged into a VR system. The difference is, though, that they have to believe the life they are living, otherwise their brains will still wither (for whatever reason). So instead of watching a film, a computer sequentially generates a 75 year experience for them. For whatever reason, it's safer not to have them live a Krull life (in case they remember who they are and 'wake up'), so the VR programmers construct an imaginary species, called humans. The Krull will live a human life, with complete belief that they are human, that their sensory experiences are 100% true, for a 75 year life span, despite the fact that humans do not and never have existed. For the Krull/Humans, though, none of this is known. They remember nothing before their birth. They absolutely believe in the world their senses are telling them is out there. This is reinforced by the appearance of the billions of humans they can see, who all tell them that OF COURSE Earth and humanity are real. OF COURSE what the Krull/Human is seeing, hearing, feeling is really what is out there. And OF COURSE all other humans are feeling things too. OF COURSE they feel hunger. But do they? Remember the other humans are really just VR data. Image and sound and texture - not a living being. Does a collection of image and sound and texture feel hunger? No matter how compelling it looks and sounds, does it actually FEEL hunger? Now prove that you are not a Krull on that spaceship. -
Entry 33 | Serving Your Desires Theory: When inspiration hits and a desire begins to grow, it is your duty to honour that desire and see it through to the end. Applying it: No matter how radical your desire may be, recognise it without passing judgment on it and work towards it. Very recently, I've been hit with a desire that I never saw coming. And yet it seems so obvious to me that I can't believe that I had never considered it before. For 10 years, people have recognised me for being a guitar player and singer. My new desire is now suggesting that my next calling in life is for percussion. I'm not going to lie, this comes from being heavily inspired by Evelyn Glennie. She has a wonderful playfulness about her work that I like to believe that I have myself, not to mention being extremely talented as a percussion player. But to reach this point in my musical life and then suddenly wonder "maybe guitar playing is not for me anymore," it is a very scary concept. It's not suddenly like I hate guitar playing because my passions for music are still as high as ever. I prefer to think of it as an evolution into my new self. Back when I was a metal-head and listened to nothing but shred electric guitar solos, the whole concept of becoming an acoustic guitarist seemed like an alien concept to both myself and others around me. However, my desire to become an acoustic guitarist remained persistent and strong. Now, it feels so natural to play the acoustic guitar. Even a lot of people at university were shocked to hear about my metal background when I first told them. I have now read the first chapter of Think and Grow Rich which, coincidentally, talks about the power of having a burning desire. As a musician, it is very easy to look back on how my desires have shaped me to become the player I am now. Without them, I would not be at university studying music and learning new musical instruments. Then the idea hit me: I can use these same desires for every single aspect of my life to get the results that I want. Whether it be earning money, finding a great relationship, reaching a higher state of consciousness, having a kid, having an idea for a book, having a new business idea, or maybe simply having more instruments! If I can honestly believe in my ability to get those things, they will come for sure. That's why for now, the idea of becoming a percussion player doesn't seem unachievable. The desire within me is coming from such a deep, unfathomable place that I have no choice but to surrender to it. The bizarre thing is that before I recognized this desire, I was constantly using my hands to drum on my body, on table tops, on anything and everything! It's as though my hands were screaming to me that I have a new calling in life. My sense of rhythm is perhaps my biggest musical asset and my mind is very good at thinking mathematically (I got a higher grade in A Level Maths than I did for Music). All the tell-tale signs were there. I just had to become conscious of it! My desires have changed. It's time to drop everything and focus on it. It's not going to be easy because many people will still consider me as only a guitar player. While I will undoubtedly continue to play the guitar, my new calling in life will unfold as I experiment with new instruments and sounds. How do I know it is a desire that will serve me? Because it utilizes my assets and pushes me into new challenges at the same time. Because it is so outlandish and unnecessary that it still sounds exciting and rewarding. But most important, it is a desire because it comes from a deep sense of love about the existence that I experience. Pick of the day: Selene - Michael Manring
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Kazman replied to Kazman's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Emerald Wilkins Hallucinations interwoven with reality... sometimes eyebrows disappeared, sometimes the mouth disappeared, there weren't much colours, and sometimes there was no point of focus and all details were treated equally and then sometimes all would be almost black except for the face in the middle. The face would look old, beautiful, alien, monstrous and just sort of morph around. But it was all tied to what my eyes were perceiving, it wasn't like a DMT-trip -
My Very First Lucid Dream. Ever. The first thing I remember of it is me, lying on my bed, warm under the covers, sweating (but the comfortable kind of sweating), with tingling sensations all throughout my body. And I just knew I was lucid dreaming, I knew I was, I just had this intuitive sense. So what is the first thing I do in my first ever lucid dream? I get out of the covers, and fly through the window over my garden. There's a being there, tall, all black, an alien humanoid. I fly next to it, we float upwards for a while, and then I go back down, in water, it's bubbling, there are little orangish lights everywhere, it's beautiful. And then I go back up, in front of my house, take a car. It's a weird car, it's orange, the steering wheel isn't complete, the top is missing. I turn the car on without the ignition keys, start driving, it's a pain to steer, and it's slow as fuck. So I decide to fly, I try to get to Geneva but I can't, I'm blocked by an invisible wall, the end of the map. And that's it. It's the end. I decide to just stop the dream. And I do. Reflections : Why did I do that? Why didn't I just sit there and did nothing? Why? For the first time I have control over what happens in my dream, and I do that. I didn't have control, I had the illusion of control. There's no free will. There just isn't free will. No free will at all. It's interesting to finally experience it. Fascinating, even.
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Neo replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
When I read that I assumed Leo meant universes. Universes can be different sizes like expanding bubbles, and some of them could have absolutely no viable life in them, others with bizarre alien operating principles, other that snuff themselves out in seconds, and every comprehensible variation. Technically infinity can contain all these infinite universes, so I'm not sure where the infinite infinities come in. -
For a newbie, all these talk are so hard to comprehend ! I mean, enlightenment is actually a very simple thing, but to explain it to a newbie, we have to use so many metaphors and analogies that it feels like we are talking to an alien race
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Wendelin replied to Wendelin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
thanks for your answers and your interesting comments on it. I knew that there must be some People that have the same sensations. Funny that there seems to be a German Community within this Forum :-) I will just go on sharing my main insight. (I didn`t read or hear this anywhere, so it is my "copryright" ;-) I consider the No-thingness or Life that I am like a non-physical unique channel of universal consciousness. So it is like a Radio channel (also the comparison is not 100% accurate, but just for sake of explaining) that is unbounded, unlimited and infinite. Body and mind are like a device which is able to receive this channel (of Life or nothingness) on a unique frequency (which displays your individual perspective). But of course the waves of this channel are everywhere, so when your body moves to another place, of Course your "Awareness-Radio" is still receiving because you (the Life or Nothingness-Channel) are just everywhere. When you travel with a radio device, the sound of your favorite Radio Station does not travel within the device, but the waves are receivable at the new place and even while driving (if they are receivable). So it is not consciousness slipping in one Body and moving along with it. It is the Body (made of earth) that moves within the infinite field of "radio" waves. Therefore you are aware and can use your individual sense perceptions through body and mind to experience illusions like all kinds of dualities, being a seperate Entity etc. etc. that is not a permanent prank that is played on you, it is the one and only possibility that you evolve. when you sleep, just the device is taking a break, the "Programme" is still there, but there is no Aware receiving. Before you were born your Programme was also there of course and in fact YOU built your device (body-mind) by yourself and within yourself as you are the channel called Life/God/No-Thingness. And Life wants to evolve and to get to know itself through all possible perspectives. Life/Nothingness waves are of course everywhere in Existence and flowing through all other life, "solid" material etc.. As you are that, you are connected to everything that is. So every individual plant, every animal, every other human being but also every "dead" material like a rock has it`s own frequency to receive the "Channel of Life/Nothingness/Everything/God/Energy (you Name it) And the physical is just a Play of 5 Elements (Earth, Water, Fire, Air and Space) "the cosmic Dance". Within all life forms, you are also present. So you are also responsible (Response-able) for them which is very much in line with Existense. as human beings we are able to "finetune" our device in a way that our awareness rises to the exact frequency of the Life-Channel and this is what enlightenment means. It is the highest possibility on earth. There are also short term peaks possible for example with Psychedellics (5Meo dmt). But be careful, it is a physical Body and damages of the System are possible. Most human beings are content with less than 1% of their potential of awareness. But the longing to be boundless, infinite is within everyone. That is why human beings are never happy with what they have or have reached. They want to mirror their own nature which is unlimited. But they simply don`t know how. They are even not Aware what is driving them. when your Body dies, your awareness has no device. So it naturally merges with the universal consciousness, but your being continues to exist of course. Near Death Experiences are the stages in between. your awareness Releases the Body and moves towards the universal consciousness, but as Long as there is the potential that your device will function again, you are in the Twilight Zone so to speak. And of Course there are other beings around. and the cool Thing is that you don`t have to communicate, you can just "download" what you like to know. (in fact really enlightened beings can do this while on earth). So if you like to know it is to be Lionel Messi, Bill Gates, Donald Trump, an alien or Darth Vader. No Problem just zoom in and download it. What will you create after being human, thats another big and exiting question. If you haven`t got out of your life what your Intention was, then you probably create another human being. You have to do an extra round, unawareness or compulsions moves in cycles. But if you passed your human-Kindergarten-test and mastered this level, then let`s go to another Galaxy or Universe and create a another device which is even more advanced and superior to human beings. I expect less suffering, but who knows what I will choose when I don`t know my options yet ;-))) so your Life is not some boring senseless Nothing as some of you seem to fear. Why should you suffer anything when you know your true nature. Forget about so called Fear and suffering, move at full throttle! Life is really cool guys!!!! As Sadhguru says. It is not about becoming super-human. It is about realizing being human is super. That is so true!! universal regards, Wendelin -
I'm still terrified of the cold approach. I work in a busy service environment where it is easy for me to practice breaking out of my shell. And I find myself out of that shell more and more now. Simple things like commenting on someone's outfit or helping someone with a query are routine occurrences. Especially if there is an attractive girl, I am able to introduce some flirtation into the mix. But given that I'm at work, it's hard to really escalate to a number close. However I do find my introversion to be a powerful magnet. It sucks me back in and says that my successful interactions were isolated events, not to be trusted.. And I'm wondering, would people recommend doing the thousands of pure cold approaches Leo has recommended before? I.e. Taking it on as a project where I do ten a day or something for a couple of weeks? That's a lot of emotional turmoil for me.. Have people found this endeavor to remove them from their shells completely? Perhaps all I need is more time for my introversion to naturally fall away.. Because the cold approaching still seems so foreign and alien and petrifying to me!
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7731 ...and the new video is ooooon... money! Nice topic when America just got a tycoon as a president... Nice topic when just some days ago I wrote a german poetry slam on being poor. It brings many funny stories with it, like Leos when they had to light candles because their electricity was cut off. No, seriously about most of the stuff that has to do with the lack of money I do laugh now. Still, when I think of the future I tend to worry... At least I can say that I am not afraid of the word business and it´s not that I am completely idealess about what I could do. The thing is that I don´t want to walk on thin ice. I know that I don´t know much about it and I want to learn. Last semester I even tried to attend a course from the business administration faculty to get a taste of the basics but it was a way too time and energy consuming investigation and I decided to put my focus on other things first... That´s another struggle with self actualization... To take decisions on what to learn first because somehow, it´s all important because it´s all part of life... Health, relationships, spirituality... money... depression I´ve learned to get through my downs. My very low psychological downs. When they end I get caught in something I call an identity crisis. I do not have neurotic thoughts anymore but I am extremely problematized about who I want to be and what I want to do. It is basically going from thinking nothing is possible and the world is ending to everything is possible and just take responsibility. The power scares me and paralyzes me. I spent last week sort of hiding in my four walls, rearranging my life and making up a plan that will, freeze time for me in a sense. I took a couple of decisions and had some realizations on what I really need and want and how "I bloom". time Let´s be honest. Learning takes its time and making a really good plan, mental preparation and training execution-they all take time. Last week there was this episode on culture (I do the worksheets by the way). Do you know the Lewis model of how time is understood in different cultures? I found that very interesting when I read about it around a year ago http://www.businessinsider.com/how-different-cultures-understand-time-2014-5?IR=T . I think it´s a little like an invisible religion. Everytime one looks at the clock, "one does his/her prayor" and I like to think of all those expressions we use about time and I like to replace the word by "life". I have no time vs I have no life. Wasting time vs wasting life. I don´t have time for that vs I don´t have life for that. In some expressions you can even replace it with death. Even though for us humans time is always a symbol of finiteness it allows us to somehow cover up the direct confrontation with the finiteness of our lives themselves. Then there are people who are pressured by it, or are addicted to this invisible weird thing. Seriously... And there are all those other perspectives from which you can look at it, not just semantics or philosophy or psychology-how about physics? Do you remember this elder man I told you about who I visited in summer, my neighbour John? Before I left he said that I should remember that time is stretchable and suppressable. How did he mean that? I can´t stretch and suppress time... Or do I? I don´t even know if behind this construct, this concept there is something I can truly grasp. Uh life´s so weird... And then "time runs". Like water. Don´t get me started in that one... spiderweb Let me tell you something... Even though the journal helps me in some ways I find it stupid. I never feel wise writing the journal and I know I´d never feel wise even if I ever accomlished saying something wise. The only time I feel wise in my life is like in situations like this morning, when I am silent, I am standing between some trees and the sun is shining through the clouds and I can hear the wind and see the trees moving and the leaves falling down like oversize confetti. My life is like vision through a spider web. I can see the web, I can see what´s behind but I can´t see it in all clarity and all beauty. But I can see it and I know it´s real just like the web is real. Now one could just get rid of that strangely transparent but still visible web by destroying it... If one overcomes the fear of the spider... Who made the web... And if one is willing to get a little dirty... I wish real life was as simple as removing spider webs. I used to be afraid of spiders by the way... But then I learned loving them. My favorite is Bagheera Kiplingi. Obviously because it´s cute, colourful and vegan. But please note that I´ve never encountered one in real life. wind Okay we talked about time and money and spiders so let me give in to the wind... I remember being a child and sticking my hand out of the cars window to feel the wind because wind was really soft even when it was very, very strong and sometimes even painful. And when it is really strong and on an island surrounded by the sea it tends to get really strong then sometimes it builds so much resistance that you can´t really close that little hand and it feels as if you can hold it. As if this ungraspable gas is an object. Okay, okay I know I should stop my isolation because I am starting to look at the world like an alien again but I really love it and let me continue... And I remember as a child that in winter I would go outside sometimes and literarly let myself fall against the wind without falling down and that was pure awesomenes. My grandfather from my fathers side died when I was a child but he once told my mother that a life in which he can´t feel the wind in his face is unworthy living to him. When he was brought to the hospital and realized that from now on he´d be bed bound he just died within weeks, in fact he died when I was on a vacation in Germany. Sometimes I wonder if he committed suicide. He loved his life but I can imagine him doing so. If he did then I think it was smart because nobody there had the knowledge or knew how to get access to the knowledge that would had made the situation financialy, psychologicaly and medicaly best. So... A life away from my values is no life, I do not want to die in misery and I want to be brave enough to end it in case all hope gets lost rather than suffer waiting for death but before all I want to enable myself to get and sustain my dream life as long as possible and that ladies and gentlemonkeys... Well, I´m working on that... DNA, a little family history and geography Leaving aside all cultural influences... I have some influences through my genes too. I have influences on who I think or used to think I am just by the landscape I grew up in... As I was going through one of my so called identity crisis I digged up memories again and tried to remember good memories to find my way to set my life in a way I´ll get more of those. First I want to mention that my mother mainly grew up in a small village near Munich in Germany. As a child she´d swimm in a river and she even said that together with other kids they´d build a float, a raft from woodpieces and float on the river with that... And dad? Well dad grew up on the island (I just noticed that I like saying island instead of Rhodes and Greece because I feel uncomfortable doing so) in a small village at the foot of the highest mountain. He´d walk miles and miles as a child. He had no toys apart from a slingshot but he and his siblings shared a donkey (all this is from second sources because he never talks to me about the past and actually there have been years in which he sort of did not talk with me at all-imagine something like the grandpa of Heidi and no, not the cartoon)... None of my anchestors are city people, not even town people in fact. None of my anchestors have gone to university and none of my anchestors were saving money with 13 I think, to buy a Nintendo DS light... (Red coloured of course because when I was a child red was my favourite colour). Me? I grew up pendling between town and the sea coast middle of nowhere and some summer vacations in Germany. I have felt being ripped out of context about a million times. I remember something though. I remember being at that beach with walls of rocks on both the left and the right side and I was there with one of, if not my best friend from the closest village, ( I think I´ll dedicate a whole entry to her one day because humans have fascinated me a lot throughout this life) and we were jumping from that rocks into the water. We were on the second highest rock (I said I´d jump from the highest with 18 but with 18 despite visiting the island I did not visit this beach) and from experience I can tell that the longer you wait the worse it gets and I was trying to overcome my resistance looking at the view from up there (be ensured that it was great), I took a mental photograph at that moment and then thought "It´s my house/home (in greek that´s one word for both)" and jumped. My summers as a child were mostly spent on beaches and this beach in particular was something I knew in and out. It was part of home. I was never deeply patriotic but I liked nature and being part of it and that has not changed untill today. Oh and don´t you dare assume that all other kids felt the same way. Like even my brother who had the potential to feel similarly to me did not simply because he is afraid of deep waters... And climbing rocks was never his thing either-he read comics and books instead. I´m not afraid despite the fact when I was a child I did as well have this other friend who was living by the port (the island has two ports-that´s the small one) and one day we were really deep in the sea and she thought it would be fun to just push me under water with zero warning... Obviously I thought this was my end and that I will have to die but somehow even without having taken a breath I made it back to the surface... pfff... The stupidity of humans is more dangerous than any octopus, crab, sea eal or eagle or big wave. Okay, whatever, I´ll go do the worksheet now... No, actually just allow me to keep talking... Oh and I sound like a grandma-no seriously- when I tell stories about my life I tend to talk about them in a tone as if my life is already over... I have so many memories of so many people and experiences. At least my perspectives come from something real that allows me to recognize and relate to other people. Sometimes I feel the urge to just hold the impression I got from a person from who I learned something or shared any experience with. Sometimes I don´t want to write about myself at all. I tend to isolate myself, still humans are my main teachers and therefore inspirations. I could watch them forever. It started in kindergarden... I was late and the others were already playing a game that translates to something like "there comes there comes the bee" where kids walk in a row forming a circle and sing and pass under each others arms and clap and shit like that and I looked at this and had one simple thought: What the fuck? This made zero sense, was completely stupid, non creative, non adveturous and had nothing to do with bees... Of course I had to conform after a while and participate. Later in elementary I kept mostly observing rather than participating... In second or third of elementary the kid sitting next to me got incredibly angry because I was constantly staring at him. The teacher had to change my seat... I´d stare at people and I would notice everything. When I was 8 or 9 the teacher said to my mum that I was so silent that she forgets my existance. I think with 10 or 11 I started to stare less at everyone and focused on drawing cartoon frogs on my books (in Greece school books are freshly printed every year and made of simple paper-most children throw them away when the school year is over and in higher grades they like to rip out the pages or even burn them-yes they absolutely love going to school or learning... not...). my theory is that I got inspired by a character in a manga comic I´d read sometimes who had an obsession with frogs-not that I identified with her but I definitely found this authentic... Okay I forgot where I wanted to go with this...
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I haven't smoked weed in over a year now. It wasn't really that hard to stop after having that panic attack. I mean i had terrible depersonalization because of that. I didn't recognise myself in the mirror, familiar places seemed alien to me, thats btw how i found non duality and enlightenment googling the symptomps. It gradually went away in 2-3 months, meditating helped alot. well id like to just be able to do normal stuff without being anxious. It's hard to get enjoyment from normal activities when your not feeling so good.
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These are all valid points; during the holocaust it was morally acceptable and even encouraged to expose Jews and hand them over to authorities. In this context discrimination and violence against a group of people was approved under legislation. This type of morality was acceptable because it was serving the ones in power. If people cut off a jew's head and posted it, would it instill any reaction from the public of those times? The same dynamics occur in all other contexts of domination of one group over another: slavery during the 17th and 18th centuries; native american persecution etc. And it is happening today in for e.g islamic states where normal might mean stoning your woman to death if she doesn't want to marry you or in societies where morality is about crying over a decapitated puppy picture and being indifferent to the miserable life and slaughter of millions of cows. Afghan women are good potential wives. Puppies are cute friends. Cows are good hamburgers. Blacks are good cotton harvesters etc etc etc See this is the dynamic i'm talking about. Morality looks a lot like a self serving thing. And you pointed it out yourself very well; it isn't anywhere in reality. I guess you and I can only be grateful we don't live in an alien invasion context where being a human is a fundamental flaw that needs discrimination.
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Bob84 replied to cetus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Not really (to the alien), when you understand what these people mean when they say ego. Would encourage everyone to have a second look at that. -
Telepresent replied to cetus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Adyashanti talks about how he still experiences ego reactions, they just get recognised for what they are very quickly. Jed McKenna talks about how he still has to 'wear' his old ego in order to funtion as a person. It appears as thought the enlightened state - if it exists - is far more alien than most people want to believe/imagine -
To quote Enchiridion: "There are things which are within our power, and there are things which are beyond our power. Within our power are opinion, aim, desire, aversion, and, in one word, whatever affairs are our own. Beyond our power are body, property, reputation, office, and, in one word, whatever are not properly our own affairs. Now, the things within our power are by nature free, unrestricted, unhindered; but those beyond our power are weak, dependent, restricted, alien. Remember, then, that if you attribute freedom to things by nature dependent, and take what belongs to others for your own, you will be hindered, you will lament, you will be disturbed, you will find fault both with gods and men. But if you take for your own only that which is your own, and view what belongs to others just as it really is, then no one will ever compel you, no one will restrict you, you will find fault with no one, you will accuse no one, you will do nothing against your will; no one will hurt you, you will not have an enemy, nor will you suffer any harm. Aiming therefore at such great things, remember that you must not allow yourself any inclination, however slight, towards the attainment of the others; but that you must entirely quit some of them, and for the present postpone the rest. But if you would have these, and possess power and wealth likewise, you may miss the latter in seeking the former; and you will certainly fail of that by which alone happiness and freedom are procured. Seek at once, therefore, to be able to say to every unpleasing semblance, “ You are but a semblance and by no means the real thing.” And then examine it by those rules which you have; and first and chiefly, by this: whether it concerns the things which are within our own power, or those which are not; and if it concerns anything beyond our power, be prepared to say that it is nothing to you." I've definitely learned that through experience. That realization however also sparked a need for a certain outcome, which upon not meeting made me miserable.
