winterknight

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  1. Follow this set of links and heed their advice.
  2. Neither. When you’re not paying attention to something, what happens? It might as well not exist. Similarly, when the mind pays attention only to knowledge, nothing can be said to exist.
  3. Activity is not the measure of a sense of doership, though. Whether one is sitting in one place or traveling around the world, one can either feel oneself to be a doer, or not. And this is of course not a choice. Either the fruits of inquiry have wiped away that sense or not. And as I showed earlier with Gandhi, one can be very active in the world, yet be so without thinking. To the mind turned firmly inward, thought and world disappear. But this does not mean that, from the standpoint of outsiders, that enlightened one sits and does nothing.
  4. Well, great then. It's just that in my experience & in at least Hindu scriptures, enlightenment is associated with total loss of the sense of doership. There is possibly a surreptitious "I" that is staying in the picture and associating itself with the one whose wishes the universe fulfills, etc. But that's just my opinion. You have to follow your own internal compass, obviously. It's not about rejecting the world, but about rejecting the mind. And I'm suggesting that it happens automatically, over time... while it is true that the Self can never be left, the surface of the mind can be more or less blissful. When there is no "I" there is an automatic dropping of the mind and its thoughts over time, as these are basically motivated by desire, and desire is based on the self-conception of oneself as doer & enjoyer.
  5. Well, all I can say is just be careful that this is not self-deception. When something really "bad" comes your way will you feel that you've intended it? Self-inquiry is not about just attaining a quiet mind, though. It's literally called inquiry, after all. It's trying to see clearly what is. It's not really a "danger." The truth of Self is unaffected either way, but it's simply that the mind may be more or less turbulent, more or less blissful. As Ramana Maharshi says, "The bliss of peace is too good to be disturbed. A man fast asleep hates to be awakened and ordered to mind his business. The bliss of sleep is too enthralling to be sacrificed to the work born of thoughts. The thought-free state is one’s primal state and full of bliss. Is it not miserable to leave such a state for the thought-ridden and unhappy one?"
  6. Well, there's a few issues in phrasing it this way. First, I've never loved self-referential as the designating term. It's both too broad and not broad enough. It's not thinking the word "I" that is problematic, it is the underlying interlaced structure of egoic thought. One could think "I" without it playing much into that structure, or one could think something seemingly not related to the I at all that nevertheless is deeply influenced by that underlying mental structure. How to tell which is which? Well, one can probably only tell after the fact -- by the way in which the mind has been drawn out and it causes un-peace. Second, once one has seen one's true nature firmly, there is really no question of 'allowing' or 'not allowing.' Those very ways of looking at things play into ignorance. So one must "not allow" that way of thinking to spring up . It's more like this happens automatically as a result of knowledge. Third, thoughts can't really cause ignorance. It's not really about whether they cause ignorance or not but simply what the state of the mind is -- more or less peaceful, that is. Finally, at the extreme end, it may well be the case (I don't have a firm position on this, but i lean this way) that literally all thought somehow or the other plays into the egoic structure. So that in the end, thought itself disappears, or very close to it, because not motivated by desire.
  7. Thoughts are not antithetical to self-realization, but self-realization is not the same as a mind in perfect calmness. The latter requires the former, however. The latter suggests thoughts occur but very rarely if at all. By thoughts I mean any mental arising related to the idea of "what should I do and how should I do it."
  8. I didn't speak merely of exposure but of the deeply quiet, fear- and desire-free mind. That is the key. There are plenty who have been exposed but whose minds are still noisy and unstable.
  9. Actually, only they are really beneficial to a society that operates on the egoic level -- the ones who operate on a non-egoic level, who operate without pre-meditation, neither out of fear nor desire -- the ones who see no world, and whose minds are as if asleep even while waking. Take it from Gandhi, quoted by Ramana Maharshi: "How mysterious are the ways of God! This journey to Rajkot is a wonder even to me. Why am I going, whither am I going? What for? I have thought nothing about these things. And if God guides me, what should I think, why should I think? Even thought may be an obstacle in the way of His guidance. The fact is, it takes no effort to stop thinking. The thoughts do not come. Indeed there is no vacuum - but I mean to say that there is no thought about the mission.” He wrote that at the height of his activism. The movement that happens spontaneously when the mind is in silent peace is the movement that is correct.
  10. I think the real answer is that to the pure, silent mind, the world effectively ceases to exist. The mind and body of such a one -- if they are hypothesized to exist -- then work in a completely different way, totally creatively and mysteriously. And in so doing they help the world in a way that cannot be conceptualized. I mean, people might try to interpret the actions of such a one, but such an interpretation -- with goals, ideas, values, etc. -- is not what actually drives that mind/body.
  11. The 'problem' is not at its core in any new steps or values we could come up with (though those can be interesting). The problem at its core is in the psyche. And how to change that? If it can be changed, it can happen only by the light of the Self. Spiritual freedom must spread. And it can only be spread by those whose minds are immersed in deep and total silence.
  12. There must be more to this story. Debtor imprisonment is not a thing anymore outside specialized circumstances (usually poor people with court-related fines that they can't pay). Bankruptcy releases you from debt. (at least if we're talking about the US)
  13. I don't really much answer questions about the enlightened experience because the answers are always misleading... best to get there and find out yourself. Why do you ask?
  14. Search on Google: all pages with lsd lsd site:actualized.org if you want the threads with lsd in the title -- intitle:lsd site:actualized.org