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Suicide is rising in young adults it has become 2nd for cause of death. That's sad, we're obviously not heading in a direction that makes us value life. https://www.prb.org/suicide-replaces-homicide-second-leading-cause-death-among-us-teens/ Interestingly it's fallen in Europe so maybe that's because Europe is becoming more stage green. But still 2nd most of death in across the world for young adults. https://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide/suicideprevent/en/ Mind boggling how death by choice is 2nd.

'They' will not commit suicide. The universe will remove them as they continue to choose to remain unconscious. Unconscious beings should be avoided.

im 17 years old still a senior in highschool. earlier in the year i tried to commit suicide and was diagnosed with bipolar. last night i smoked some weed for the first time in a while and had an awakening to my own being, i questioned "what is this being?" for a while now ive been losing friends, and i deactivated all my social media for around 2 weeks now. I have my girlfriend and my best friend, both of which happen to be into spirtuality. However my girlfriend has been annoyed with my seemingly "lack of drive" for life, and lately when we talk theres a negative vibe. I just told her were on a break for a week. My best friend and i are always chill and lowkey so hes here when im ready to talk. All i can feel is existential loneliness. Its beautiful and peaceful at times but also depressing. Everything was just a story. When i go home no one takes intrest in me unless they want to yell at me or tell me something about themselves. When i go to school at this point no one cares about me. Even the relationship with my girlfriend has been hard because i am dysfunctional during sex and even though shes been very supportive, i cant help but feel like i just let her down. Like ive let everyone down. And the way she feels about this "lack of drive' gives me the impression that if the only person i love cant accept me for who i am in the moment- then whats the point? any advice?

It's just nihilism when they say "why bother, its pointless/meaningless" Nothing in this universe says it pointless, the trees grow, all living creatures try to survive, the earth keeps spinning. When you put cement over ground nature still tries to crack through the cements and grow grass through it. God consciousness seems to be doing a lot for something that is pointless. It takes a mind to make a conclusion of "meaningless". To fall to nihilism or depression, to commit suicide. It takes no mind for being, existing, or to be God consciousness. Reality is a canvas you can't paint "meaningless" onto a canvas the moment you try to, you just created meaning, you tried to convey "meaningless".

I think it’s time I depart from this forum. I’m using this platform as a crutch and I know there are genuine users on here that in a sense serve a support system but I don’t think it’s enough for me personally. I feel like I’m getting to a point mentally, emotionally, and in my utter just self-hatred and my life as a whole where I feel like I’m going down a path that might leading towards somewhere bad (I don’t want to say suicide because I thought I was personally past this in my life and thought I was done with but I feel like this might go there unless something changes) and I really don’t want my life to go that way. I don’t want to die this way and I feel like I don’t get the help or support system I need and I feel awful writing the same damn long posts just basically crying out for help. My life has no direction at all, I’m at home still, haven’t dated for almost 3 years, have like no friends anymore, live in a city I’m losing my mind in, and can’t stand waking up in the morning knowing from the moment I open my eyes that it makes no difference whether or not I get up because I have nothing going for me and nothing I really feel like I can actually do or any support system I can rely on as a bar to climb up a long staircase. I thought my life was going to be more than this and I’m afraid I’m going to waste my life and I feel like this forum is just becoming a place where I waste my time on because deep down I know I’m not strong enough or capable of getting a single dream, ambition, anything of mine actually accomplished anymore. I hope my comments and posts on here have helped at least some of you. I don’t know what I’m going to do, where or who I can go to for help, how I’m going to turn this around, who I can actually talk to, where I’m going to turn this around to, what I actually want. I don’t want to blame parents, teachers, whoever because really at this point my life has just been built on an extremely dysfunctional and rotten foundation. For those who actually have given supportive words of encouragement, thank you. It has meant something but it’s hard for it to make an impact just from the fact that it’s just more stuff over the screen and no one in my actual life. Lastly, thanks @Leo Gura. I’ll still watch the videos.

i never realised how amazing the internet actually was the same awareness literally speaking to each other and communicating with eachother on the topics/ identities they tie themselves too. in the news where i am there was a 14 year old girl who committed suicide and her father went to the news outlet to say that the social media platform instagram help coerce her death with the use of their algorithms everywhere you look, someone is saying something postive or negative about something without the full scope of picture involved. opinions, after opinions, after opinions all predicated on illusions and mass self-deceptions. it truly is extroordinary when the only thing real is awareness. quite beautiful indeed

@Manjushri Here is a simple suggestion. Get a piece of paper and write down every problem in you life that is causing you discomfort on a list. Review each problem and ask yourself if there is anything you can do about this now or in the near future. If there is something you can do write that problem on another list. If you can't do anything about it, leave it off your 2nd list. Now you will have a list with the problems you can do something about, It is time to prioritize those problems in the order of importance. You can make a detailed list of steps if needed about how you will approach each problem you can do something about. Now for the problems you can do nothing about, let them go. They are making you anxious and all the worry in the world will not change that. If you feel too overwhelmed to do this whole process immediately, do what you can. Please promise me that you won't hurt yourself. I know what feeling suicidal feels like. In fact, I once attempted suicide and believe me, if you are not successful, it will make everything more difficult. If you need to talk to someone you can PM me.

Below are some guidelines that I have to get you started with curing your depression. I don't know everything, so read and pick out the flaws and change the flaws to what you think is true or to what could be useful to you. Wanting to die. Sometimes in life we feel like it's easier not having to deal with existence anymore. Existing is very hard, you go to school for years, work, and deal with many problems. You think "why even bother living". You don't get to experience sadness when you die but you also don't get to experience happiness either. So while a possibility for happiness exists for you, why not take it? Let's say for example that your business fails. You think it's all over. You think suicide is logical. But over the course of years you have built an even greater one. Not thinking you're missing out on anything good anyway. It is true that there are a lot of immoral things that happen all across the world. There are people who have chronic pain all over their body, while you don't and you're still depressed. It makes you feel like shit to admit that there are people who are in worse conditions yet you want to kill yourself. It almost makes you feel like you should be one of these people instead of your current self or that you should stop living since you feel that reality itself is sadistic. Be the light for someone else. If you are one of these people who see no light then be the light for someone else. Instead of using suffering people as examples of why life isn't worth living, help these people. There are people around you right now who you are very capable of helping in some certain way.

Leo's whole purpose for this forum was for people to outgrow it. I have been provided all of the most valuable information I need to be capable of not dying to suicide or something like that in the future. I am capable of living a happy life at this point. Another reason of why I need to make plans to quit is because I don't want this forum to become an addiction. I have been substantially decreasing the amount I use this forum since I don't want to make it an ego only thing. My only intentions is to come on occasionally just to read certain comments and message some of the users who I know more personally than the others. I don't plan on posting on other threads than this one since there is no point since others already know more. Good luck with your time on this forum. Everyone's experience with it is completely different.

I find this a bit unusual. My substance dissolved in water quite easily (almost no mixing). But I guess it depends on how big the salt crystal is. If it is a very fine powder, it will disappear as soon as it comes in contact with water. I think @outlandish will be able to provide more insight. This is pretty much how 5-meo worked for as well. Your ego started to sense it's own death. Every little thing becomes irritable, and you have a huge body load. At times I really wanted to throw up, other times I would experience pains in my stomach. All of that accompanies by extreme feelings of anxiety and existential suicide. But! ... if you take more and go deeper... all of that goes away. The real peak is not the bad experience. The real peak is amazing and indescribable. It is everything you've been searching for and more. Taking that into account, 5-meo is not a magic pill at all. As with most of the things in life, you have to go through real pain and suffering to get the experience. And ultimately, you have to surrender yourself to realize yourself as God. For me, when the terror kicks in, I make myself very comfortable on the bed and re-affirming that this is just an experience, that I'm not in control of it, and that I will be alright. If you are serious about getting the experience, and you can handle it maturely (your not suicidal), you have to go all the way. Increase your doses to what is necessary to get a breakthrough (I needed 40, 50 and 60mg). And actually, it does get easier after a couple of trips. When you go through the nightmare once it doesn't scare you anymore. And maybe because of that, your trips will become more blissful in the future. But the torture was necessary at first... at least for me.

There are some side-effects of this path, like thoughts of suicide. So better consider that.

While owning property(s)? (No taxes or at least taxes cancels out unemployment pay) I decided to live rest of my life on my own. I have enough knowledge to provide myself every primal need that a human does. Farming, electricity, water, sewer systems and so on. I just want to own only one house for rest of my life. But the obstacle is "governments" and their stupid taxes such as property/income/breathing/farting taxes. I won't be ever contributing to society and neither do they to me. I can live without any dependencies on governments. I need to find where I can accomplish this. Why you might ask? It's not important to ask why but here it is: I had enough of this life and It's all non-senseness. I've concluded to "Instead of giving myself a suicide, I will give the suicide to the society" If I can't find a way, I will become someone wild and probably die with a shot of police while trying to do so. If that is what my destiny is, I am not afraid of it. Do not ever try to falsely believe that I need psychological help. That would be last thing I need, maybe you need some psychological help if these lines are disturbing you somehow? It would be the last thing you'd say "get some help" to me. If you are about to write these lines, do not waste your time/energy. Instead if you really want to help me, respect and answer my question. TLDR: I want to disappear with a house but this should not make me pay any taxes just because I want to live life on my own without needing any dependencies like electricity and water EDIT: I've posted on this question several forums online and what I've concluded from others after a while of their comments is I cannot fully go alone in wild. There things needs to be taken care i.e health is the obstacle that I cannot go away with. I adjusted my plan to find the so to say "BEST DEAL" out of the options

@Arhattobe The inability to empathize and approach the problem from their level is actually a stage Green, tier 1 approach. What you said may be true, but it was not what the other person needed to hear right there. Without the proper context and guidance, that information has driven many people to suicide, and will continue to do so.

I wonder how many people on this forum that threaten to commit suicide, actually do. I've seen the threat many times, from many people on here. Doesn't seem like a way to tell how many of them actually followed through. That's a sad thought.

Sorry for the long post, a part of me needs to just get this out. There is a question, but I would be doing it an injustice without the backstory. Maybe someone can offer some insight or help as I'm not sure I can move through this one alone. After being emotionally hurt quite badly in my past I literally closed myself off from love, for perhaps the last 12-18 months. I could not let love come from an intimate relationship, let alone the entirety of existence. After some psychedelic trips I became aware of this, and of the importance of developing more love in my life. I KNEW that a part of this for me had to be finding a loving partner. I decided 2019 would be my year of love. Well, I met this beautiful girl, who shares many of my interests mid-December. We have been deep and open with each other. We had planned a proper date on the 3rd (today) and I had been looking forward to this for over a week. Yesterday I sent her a message as a reminder over Facebook. When I check back a few hours later her account is blocked, she has blocked me. I almost immediately fall into a deep depression like I never have before. That night I dream about her pushing me away without explanation, I wake up in a state of absolute panic. At 2am she messages me, she had completely forgotten about the date. This marks the 3rd time this has happened to me, others leaving me to sit alone waiting for them. But she never blocked me, it was just a mental fiction I had created. She was experiencing some personal shit in her own life that was eating her away and had to temporarily deactivate her account. We had a really beautiful conversation, though it didn't look like the date was going ahead. I asked her to message me when she wakes up, she doesn't. Again this spirals me into a depression and all my baggage starts to come up. Until she messages me (as I'm writing this). I have so much resistance to letting go of these mental stories in this one part of my life. There are so many other areas where I can just observe without reacting, let it come and go. But this has become a sticking point for me. It's like a part of me wants to suffer in romantic relationships of any kind, this pattern has expressed itself throughout my life since I was 5 years old. I push people away, and then when there is someone that I want to get close to they push me away. Within 3 days of 2019, my "Year of Love", for the first time maybe ever I contemplated the merits of suicide. I have slept most of the day or just laid on the floor. It breaks my heart. It's like I've become bipolar. My diet is solid, exercise, nature, meditation. Is this just a spiritual purging of past emotions that need to be expressed as I'm letting it. Or am I indulging in mental stories around the reality which is just causing more suffering on my part. I guess the obvious solution is just meditate more and become detached, but that almost doesn't feel right. Is my ego just deluding me? I almost knew I was opening up myself to all this pain when I decided to let love back in. But it's so much harder to bear that I thought, any help is appreciated.

Yes I think so, he's made some interesting judgements on Leo before about Leo being a cult leader and his channel being just a long-form suicide note. they were really strange accusations, which led me to believe they were just projections. I don't believe he's coral, i don't know what that is but I do notice good amount of classic orange and resistance to green I liked some of his information and advice, I got some insights on SD from him (integrating lower stages) and I like the way he takes ownership of his life That's my honest analysis

I dont have any desire to grow anymore, i do that out of necessity. I dont have dreams i want to achieve. i just want to not be disturbed. sometimes i feel like i just want to stop existing (I would never consider suicide, dont worry about me) i dont want to initiate anything, i dont want to initiate conversations with people, im ok by myself, being proactive takes too much energy, i dont want to do that. i dont think im depressed, im not sad or anything either. im actually fine. im just tired, just want to do nothing. and its not that i need a break, ive had a lot of vacations, i have a scheduled relaxation time in the day, im not stressed too much. i dont know why i dont want to do anything. any ideas?

Hi everyone, I've recently read the Power of Now and been watching numerous ET videos on YouTube. I have to say, I am now in a worse position that I have ever been in my entire life. To the point where I am seriously considering the prospect of suicide or admitting myself to a psychiatric hospital if I can. I just want to say a few things about ET first. I don't want to die, but I don't want to be thoughtless (which you will say is my ego). I am not anti Tolle as a person. I don't think he's someone who is doing it all for the money. I don't think he is trying to deceive people. I think he is genuine enough. But I also think what he says can be very, very dangerous. I started reading the PON as I thought it would be a book about how to be a better person. My dad had told me that it had helped him to stop ruminating so much about different things, something with which I've struggled with from time to time. Indeed, I used the approach from him explaining it to me a few times when I was in stressful situations and it helped calm me down. Out of curiosity, I thought I'd get stuck in to the read of what Tolle teaches. The dissolution of the ego. Or more plainly, the dissolution of the thinking part of our brains. People can say what they like here, about how Tolle words what he is teaching in his books. However, ultimately, what he is teaching is a form of nihilism. It really is. And what's more, he is right. Essentially, nothing matters. Suffering and pain aren't real emotions. That is what he is saying. If someone is done a perceived injustice (that we have socially constructed as an injustice), such as someone has physically harmed them, or their families, they have no reason to feel aggrieved or even have a negative emotion. If someone comes into my house now and chops my arms and legs off, Tolle would say accept it, live in the now and you won't suffer. If I suffer, it is my ego. Thinking logically, this is true. I would have a choice whether to suffer. What does it matter if I have arms or legs? Emotions are not real. Nothing is real. Everything is a thought, which isn't a thing. Our thoughts are conditioned because of hundreds of years worth of social constructs. Essentially, anything goes. We needn't feel bad for any behaviour, because whatever we do, essentially is neither right or wrong. There is no adjudicator. Even in the sense that you think you love someone. You don't. How mind blowing is that? I saw a video with Tolle (before he was with Kim), and he said that relationships should be avoided. They are social constructs, again. Love, as much as suffering and pain, isn't real. I thought I loved a girl. I would have jumped in front of a gun for her. But love isn't real. You don't love anyone. Because if you are in the now, which is your true self, you have no thoughts. To love something, you need to have thoughts. It cannot work. Therefore, love is based on a thought, that essentially is ego, which is not you. Nothing matters. Everything is a construct. Tolle says he enjoys spending time in nature, which he sees as beautiful. But isn't the idea of nature being beautiful a social construct too? Who says it is? Why do we think anything is interesting or beautiful? That is a thought, which isn't you. Why do you get out of bed and go to work? Why do you study? Why do you watch TV? Why do you socialise, when your friends are doubtlessly ran by their egos, which isn't them? As such, your friends are illusions. They are not real. Nothing is real, everything is an illusion. This is EXACTLY what Tolle is getting at but he might not have worded it as such. Yes, I could live in the 'now'. But how do I function if I have no thoughts? I would urinate and defecate in this exact spot which I am laid. How do I chose what to eat with no thoughts? Tolle's answer for everything is to be in the now. The now cannot be bettered. Nothing compares to the bliss of the now, because if you are not thinking. Of course the now will be a type of bliss, as there are no thoughts. I saw him on Oprah's show on YouTube and they was talking about people grieving. He didn't word it as such, but what he was saying was people are grieving over nothing and they choose to suffering. Do not grieve over your loved ones when they pass, because they, for one thing, they are illusions, two you cannot love them, and three there's nothing you can do to bring them back. It makes absolute sense. So cutting to the chase, why am I here when I could accept the now and none of this would matter? I should be content with just existing. Because I can't yet cease thinking entirely. And more specifically, I don't know if I want to (you will say, ah this is your ego). So I can't win. I am in a state of perpetual suffering as a result. Trying to achieve something that ultimately, you can't and trying to avoid going back to a world of illusions that I now find incredibly scary. My friends are not real, the love I feel for people is not real, everything is an illusion. And I know every single one of you Tolle fans on here know that I am speaking the truth. Tolle cannot write it like this in his books, as it would never be published. My world has come crashing down. I LOVED my life. I was content. I FELT things. Happiness, sadness, euphoria, excitement, nervousness, heartache. But these emotions are just illusions, mere thoughts that aren't real. I now have no desire to anything. See friends? No, they're illusions. See family? No, they're illusions. Go to work? No what's the point, it's an illusion and creates a false identity. If you are a Tolle follower, why do you do anything? The last vestiges of my thinking mind realise that I have two basic functions. To survive and to procreate. These are biologically preprogrammed. These are the only things that are 'real' to me. So, while I want to die (this is a genuine thought, as nothing matters. Indeed, having spoken to a number of enlightened folk online over the past few days, they have agreed that it doesn't matter if I live or die. If I want to die, then die. My family and friends will suffer, but as we know, that suffering isn't really who they are. The real 'them' would not care, as those emotions are born out of the ego). What do I do? I am stuck. I anticipate many of you will just say accept and submit to the now. My point is, I don't see how this truth (it is the truth, you can deny it as much as you like, but this absolutely what Tolle and others with similar messages are getting at in a round about way). can lead anyone to a state of happiness of euphoria, as these aren't real either. Ulimately, a tiny bit of my disgusting egoic brain tells me that perhaps it is better to leave people in their unconscious lives of ignorance. It is all an illusion, sure. But they don't know that. It's that or nothingness. How can't this truth, ultimately, lead to people just dying? And again, what would that matter? It wouldn't.

@Shin You are free to mock me all you want. I won't judge you for that. I just thought to enlightened, you never judge or make fun of anyone, no matter what. That is your ego. Your 'devil' brain, if you will. @TheAvatarState Why would I want commit suicide after reading the PON? Because nothing is real. Everything is an illusion. There is no point to anything. Everything is a construct. You can just say accept it, and fighting it is your ego, but I think, rather selfishly, Id rather feel a painful death than feel nothing. @pointessa Well, my relationships are in tatters now regardless. I haven't spoken to anyone for days. Sure, people are sending me messages. But they're not real are they? So why engage with something that is false? Or why engage with an illusion... isn't that just madness? Why create a role? Seriously!! Why do anything?! Isn't creating a role just your ego? You are giving yourself a false identity. You are not being you. I don't want to be possessed. Nor do I want to be a in world of fiction, surrounded by these human bodies that are possessed.

Hi @Paul92 , Let me tell you that everything will be OK. There is no need to jump off a bridge and commit suicide. Let me explain: What you are experiencing is a very common set of feelings that come up when you first come to see how everything is an illusion. It happens to nearly everyone when they start to learn about these things because it shatters their previous belief system. You will likely feel depressed and nihilistic for the next couple of weeks but that is OK. Everything will be OK and there is no need to start loading yourself up with worry. You will be in existential pain but just know that it will ease and things will normalise with time. You've taken the first step in a wonderful journey, but at this point you cannot appreciate what is in store for you. Console yourself. And give yourself time. These thoughts that you are having will subside with time, and then you will be able to take steps in a more positive direction, and you will end up in a better place than now. Everything is OK and we are here for you on the forum if you need us.

@Paul92 this is fantastic news my friend! No, really. This means you're questioning everything and you're on the path. What you're going through is pretty common; I went through that too and I feel your pain. You're close to flipping all these realizations on their heads (with the proper context), and about to burst into the most wonderful and liberating experience of your life. Hopefully I can try to explain this in a way that makes sense to you now... You're correct that this is potentially dangerous knowledge, because if interpreted from the ego, with your ego still identifying with feelings and emotions and meaning (like you're doing now), then yeah, this shit leads down a dark spiral of Nihilism. You're living proof of that. This is normal, don't be afraid. But try to notice something. Why are you afraid? Why does this feel like the end of the world? Why would you possibly want to commit suicide after reading The Power of Now? Really think about this. When you're in the present moment, do you die? You might be inclined to say yes, but be careful here. WHICH part of you dies? Please don't conceptualize this, you'll have to go into your direct experience. When you've identified the part of you that dies when living through present awareness (because YOU certainly don't), then ask yourself an important question. Is it right that I die when I'm present? When I'm being? Isn't that the opposite of what it should be? You've been identifying with a toxic illusion your whole life. You still do. That illusion is not you. This illusion is precisely illuminated as an illusion by the fact it ceases to exist in the light of being. Try to understand the gravity of this. You're insisting on answering to an illusory being whose sole purpose is to trap you in psychological time to control you. Now all of this should start making sense. One of the tricks your ego uses to control you is to make you believe in absolute meaning. When that gets stripped away, your ego will rightfully feel like it's dying, and will go into overdrive to make excuses and rationalize. Understand that ALL meaning ever was, was a conceptualizion of your own mind. It never existed out there. Nothing has "changed" with this new knowledge, you're only awakening to what has always been the case. Look back on all the times you used your sense of meaning in your life. If you are truly honest with yourself, you'll start to see that it was used as an enslavement tool more often than not. Love existed prior to meaning, and never required such a thing. You've never required meaning to be happy. On the other hand, you required a lot of artificial meaning to get stressed out and anxious. Another trick your mind plays on you is the "logical rationalization" that if none of this is "real" then the only thing to do is to stop doing anything. Classic! But think about this: picture someone just becoming lucid in a dream... Why is everyone's first instinct to fly, along with a whole slew of crazy things? If none of it "mattered" then why doesn't everyone who lucid dreams immediately frown and wake up, saying, "oof glad that's over, that could have been a huge waste?" What is "real?" How do you define "real?" Why would you get so protective of this notion of real, like your very life depended on it? Oh yes, because the existence of your parasitic, illusory self hinges on you believing that's the real you! Your direct experience, your consciousness, your love, your happiness, your purpose, and your friends and family do not hinge on the notion of real. The only thing that's threatened by it is the thing that created the illusion of real in the first place. Be aware of whose life is really on the line here.

The choosing between Suicide and no Suicide seems simply reactionary. Mind has concluded upon some construction of mind and acts on that image based on the minds preference(the past). Its essentially all positive/negative resistance of desire. This desire limits itself by jumping from one contradiction to another, one condition to another, one conflict to another.

Having a good time, enjoying my life, dont really see how suicide would benefit me. I'm excited about my future, however irrelevant it may be

Anna Akana is an entertaining and vulnerable Stage Green youtuber. She talks about compassion, empathy, vulnerability and other feminine values, mental health, depression, anxiety, suicide, LGBT, feminist stuff like rape culture, etc. Her videos are well made and easy to digest for Orange people. I consider most of her videos to be "healthy Green".

you guys need to relax...he missed videos few times in the past and there was always this type of thread opened. "Omg has Leo died..why is there no video"? One time somebody posted an article of guy dying in motorcycle crash in Vegas and all of a sudden this was Leo committing suicide on psychadelics