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Japan has its own cultural norms. Capitalism doesn't operate the same in every country. Moreover, Japan whiist being capitalist isn't Western culturally. Well not in the same sense that the USA, Canada, UK, or Germany are. There are still some vestiges of the old Meiji and Edo period ways, especially in terms of working attitudes and practices. Japan's working culture is more due to these long-held traditions and not what modern neoliberalism has taught them. The same attitudes relate to the suicide forest and other toxic parts of Japanese culture. It's modern neoliberalism that's taught Western countries to value work/life balance more, including flexible working. Many countries in recent years have mandatory maximum working weeks.

I don’t think I am going to survive. I updated the despair stack of mine in my profile. One year later, I am still suffering from chest pain and shortness of breath. I have seen countless health professionals with no definitive diagnosis. I admit, I screwed up. I had a period when I thought I could contribute in open-source projects. I had an absolutely horrifying experience. I was obliterated by narcissistic moderators and sycophants of CEO from both exchanges and crypto-currencies. I didn’t realize narcissism was a thing. I was completely delulusional over a ‘everything is love’ mentality. In summary - Random moderators throwing 'rocks' at users randomly, love-bombing others - They see someone vulnerable, me, (weak Fe), they keep throwing things at me until I start being really concerned, stressed, emotionally damaged, and physically drained - I am in a perpetual loop of shock. - Due to chronic anxiety, my health is falling apart. At first, I thought a ikigai alignement of needs was possible. I get more and more attached to my ideas and having to earn funds somehow to save myself from my health issues. - They kept doing it while I was in a critical health condition, openly bragging about the damages. - I couldn't defend myself because these are just 'rocks', which individually doesn't represent significant damage. And due to weak Fe I am extremely bad at navigating emotionally inharmonious situations, which can be easily manipulated against me. - 'rocks' means intimidation (dark web | assassination smart-contract threats), incitement to suicide, belittlement, racism, and eventually gaslighting and inversion attacks. Over and over. Obviously, in retrospect I should’ve never ignored red flags. I used to give perspectives the benefits of the doubt. I obviously tried too much to go back to the love-bombing stages. Eventually, INTJ’s NiFi loop kicks in: excessive ruminations, emotions are intense, reverberating endlessly, and soul crushing. Spiritual dread is overwhelming. All these happened while my relative was dying from cancer. I didn’t realize narcissists absolutely must thoroughly burn their victims to retro-causally justify all the harm, and preserve the perfection of their monkey image or reputation. I thought I could just keep working on my stuff and negotiate mutually beneficial compromises. Fox. The strong genes meme is real. I am not going to survive.

In psychology there is the observation that when suicides cases are presented to the public like when a star does it or when it happens in a play (for example the play: the sorrows of young Werther) people mimic it. Therefore showing suicide cases in films is widely banned or restricted in such a way that is shouldn't be shown in to much detail and to heroic/ epic. Of course all these restriction make sense as a first reaction. But in the big picture I think it may be a loss. If will bring people who are mentally very unstable over the edge. But for mentally more healthy people it shows them ways in which they could seriously slip up and therefore prepares them. So from a holistic/ long term point of view if could be a net positive to show suicide cases more openly. So holistically when do you think is showing suicide good, when is it bad?

For me there’s two types of suicide one is the one Leo talks about which is initiated by an impure mind and is done based on impure thoughts and out of whack emotions. another type of suicide is just done for the sake of it with no intentions of ‘ending suffering’ but just genuine philosophic contemplation of the unknown state of death and curiously wanting to experience and explore it. In other words, it’s done with a pure mind and not under the influence of your emotions.

Any idea guys. My mind constantly puts the image of negative hypothetical scenarios of future, how I will angrily react in the future etc. Also during these exam days I am feeling very bad.I also have anger inside me like how people didn't allowed me to date by saying to study and I will get arranged marriage(which I don't want),. I become extremely angry when I see a couple and here in college couples are present all around me and during studying also these thoughts race through my mind - everyone has a girl except me. Sometimes I think of suicide but then I think that life is precious- once gone then can never be rejuvenated. I have painful memories from past racing all the time . How could I overcome this because I see that I am doing ok in my career and I am answerable in classes much more than those who are dating(they cheat in exams whereas I live with integrity). How to climb out of this black hole ?

Tolle does a great work, instills in you an interesting idea about how the mind creates the appearance of an experience that takes place in time, about how the present moment is the absolute, but nothing more. He tells you: one day I wanted to commit suicide and the next day I was free of my ego. Oh, okay. That is of no use, he cannot teach you how to get out of the trap of the mind because he did not get out of the trap of his own free will, it was something spontaneous. The only advice he could give you to reach that point is: immerse yourself in a state of anxiety so horrible that you want to die, and then maybe your mind will free itself or you will commit suicide. that is of no use. Ok, now you know that the present moment is the absolute. That is important, but you have to find the way to break the illusion of temporality and be the absolute present, open yourself to the total existence of the now.

Good news. My suicidal thoughts finally stopped. It appears that I have been holding myself to impossible standards and judging myself as a bad person and a failure for not meeting these standards. In this case I have been trying to turn chess into an economically viable career but I failed. I blamed myself for not trying hard enough even though I was trying to do something next to impossible. I felt like I was wasting my talent and not living up to my potential. This is part of what caused me to lose sleep at night. I will keep trying to come up with realistic and financially viable career options. I like the emotional mastery route, but I don't know if it is realistic to teach emotional mastery in schools to prevent suicide. This would require either a non profit or some kind of political change to the educational system. I'm not sure how to achieve such a thing. I tried sticking to chess because I clearly had what it took to be a master, but I was left with the financial problems. My last resort is to go into engineering which I never had any interest in at all.

My brother is in depression and told me that he might suicide. What to do?

It's obvious, isn't it? Most of us are trapped by some form of identities and structure we have built? For example, you have a home, a house, a career, limiting beliefs and some form of bodily illness. You cannot really just leave everything behind and create a new one although for some of you, you can. And I can too. One of the solutions is do not overthink. Some people think their way to a suicide. I have never seen a person with a blank state think their way to that. Another sol is to take responsibility for your life.

@bebotalk A large part of medicine is biased and very narrow minded and heavily manipulated. Those techniques works ? For bunch of people - yes but for other bunch of people - No. We spend days , months and years to find what would work particularly for us. Mental illness is not false , they're just sort of a approximation. At the end of day it's just theory and concept, which don't really exist but it's important for communicating prospective and to maintain an order ( sort of like money, money don't really exist but is just a concept and that concept is important in society) Let's just say for now a particular disorder is not treatment , few years later new therapy appears and it becomes treatable. Medicine says this disease and disorder isn't treatment but maybe it's just lack of study and research. So , you cant really trust medicine fully. For a lot of people, antidepressants are life saver but hey , they are the cause of suicide more rather then the disorder itself. It depends on the levels of psychological development of a person that they can and want to do the work by themselves. A stage green and yellow individual might handle their psychological matter themselves but surely not all blue and orange individual would be able to. Healing urself is an emotional labour, having a professional by your side a is great relief but you take that emotional labour in your hands if that the option fits for you.

Guys check out guyana, very high suicide rates.

@kenway That is a very interesting theory but problematic and fulled with flaws. What I know is that in the early 2000's Israel was MUCH more hated when the world was quite sure those suicide bombers are actually a freedom figthers. I live here, I was a teenager in the 2nd intifada and the vibe we got from the world then was so different for the worse. From then, a handful of peace negotiations between Israel an the Emirates, Bahrain, Morroco, Sudan. A normalization with Saudi Arabia when for the first time Israeli commercial airplanes can fly upon their country. The world today understand better than ever that the palestinians are serial peace refusal and also have a big part of the responsibility for the problem. Let alone the arab world understands this. The demonstrations are maybe more ebullient these days but this is also more trendy today to be special and fight for your truth. In Israel too the inner demonstrations had expanded quite greatly in their volume over the last decade and a half. Also don't forget Europe today is fulled by arab refugees what wasn't at all the case in 2006.

If you had a bad upbringig and a family that didn't love you, that abused you and nade you weak an pray to rich and popular bullies. When you grow up the same shit continues, but now you are utterly weak when you know the causes of the past problems and you know you should have moved out this family. But you did not. So now come new so to say rich and popular bullies and your family is still against you. You get put down, stripped out of your dignity, ostracized and demonized as well as physically damaged. Very damaged. You start living in fear and have nothing you love. Hope is always illusory and you basically cannot be who you are, authentic and happy. Life is nothing. It has no meaning and all my potential is never gonna be realized anyway. So why should I live? I'm like an animal in a cage with abusive owners and cannot get away. I also feel small. Yeah, my I'm a taller man, but my mind, life, bank account, 6 inch penis, status, all this is too small. I'm not gonna commit suicide but I have to ask what the pros are, cause although I don't believe in the Church, sometimes I do fear Karma and even Jesus, but can't believe in that for sure. But sometimes you just gotta go. Is there anything positive that could be said of suicide?

i am stage yellow in a 3rd world country. i am suffering from unemployment. its pretty fucked up. people over idealises yellow , which is not good. my situation is pretty fucked up . yellow is a nice stage , but the situation of a person depends on a lot of factors . Spiral dynamics is just another nice cool theory. i hate my life. i am thinking of commiting suicide. fuck this self impovement shit. it has done me a lot of harm than good. i wish i never did self improvement . i hate my life. its miserable . i am suffering . those who idolize spiral dynamics, drop that shit of over idealisation of a theory

Conjectured statement in 2028: "We conclude that the suicide rate in 1850 due to gender dysmorphia was the exact same as today, we assure you social contagion is a myth by anti-American actors."

I find all that harakiri stuff fascinating. Those guys were brave, there's no doubt. Not only did they have to commit suicide, they also had to stab a sword into their guts. a way to demonstrate that willpower defeats the survival instinct

Awakening to God....is a form of suicide. You drop attachment to the body without harming it. It creates the same fear someone will experience say falling to their death. A fear so intense....you cannot move.

Interesting prediction, some circles definitely push that perspective. I foresee the opposite, a fusion of both worlds. Look into an increase of spiritual awakenings happening in America. What if I told you that technology and spirituality are not mutually exclusive? What if I told you the screen of a tablet, cell phone, laptop, desktop, and t.v., is a more direct pointer to God than any of these mystical traditions? People who believe that we need some anti-technology/anti-AI movement don't understand that technology and AI actually push humanity to awakening to God faster. Even the financial problems help because it causes more suffering which pushes humans to look inward for answers, it also causes some to attempt suicide and have NDE's. ^^^And yes what I just wrote sounds evil but hey it is what it is.

Death is always avoided on a primal level. An animal doesn't need no beliefs to fight for life. It just does. Same applies to You. You'd know that if You spoke from experience. Anything is considered "good or bad" because of beliefs. But that doesn't mean there isn't such thing as right action. There is and it's purely intuitive, flowing in the moment. If You really tried committing suicide I can guarantee You it wouldn't be right. You'd be going against yourself. In fact You most likely wouldn't be able to do it at all because You'd experience fear so intense your stomach would twist. That's what happens when You go against You. You can test this if You dare. (or better don't) You are under the belief that death being wrong is a belief. Yes, that's still a belief. You've fallen into another trap because You're not doing serious work and You're intellectualizing all the time. Instead of wisdom from experience You get beliefs from whatever thoughts arise. And I'm Donald the Duck.

I like to want death and by like I mean it's painful. I actually prefer to be absorbed in existence. Distraction is the way, because distraction is passion. I am not passionate for death, I simply feel a need to escape what hurts. I do not have a threat to myself because I know that death is not the way. There is no point in telling people to embrace suicide, and you saying it kinda misses the point of suffering to the point of needing escape. you say you "So please understand I'm not advocating suicide or urging anyone to commit suicide. " but then do it, how funny you are! I am not wit the answer though. All I know is what keeps me embracing life.

But aren't I the creator of this video game? So surely I can decide to end it or skip ahead without having to repeat it. But even if I couldn't, what levels are there to complete in actual eternity? Technically I would have already played this one an infinite amount of times and all the potential new ones. No matter which way you put it, if you dig deep enough suicide is absolutely fine and even preferable in a lot of cases.

I agree with you all . I would argue that the central question is: Is there something that is "better" than continuing to exist? Because I don't believe that there is a taboo against suicide..per se. The taboo is against claiming that life is valueless. Which should be so fucking obvious if you dare to contemplate that you gonna die anyways . And life is filled with suffering. So why not end it all already and be done with it all ? Seems better than suffering for fucking 90 years then dying anyways 😆 🤣.

Being serious about suicide is a part of what led me to awaken. If I hadn't thought about it I don't think I would have woke myself up. God said to me not yet let me kill you first. I think eckhart tolle have the same kinda experience where he said God i want to die and God killed him just not physically

But, what if death by suicide will never give you peace? What if you end up in hell/purgatory realm and you will be stuck there for eternity? Nobody really knows what happens after death/suicide... Nobody even knows if this reality isn't actually hell/purgatory realm.

I believe that if you are honest with yourself and look directly at what you are and what this life is, you will know exactly what the path to follow is, and that path can be suicide. In our society people die of illness and old age and that is real shit, it is much better to be eaten by a tiger or shot with an arrow. but dying in a hospital at 80 years old after a 3-year incurable illness....that's huge shit that billions of humans constantly go through. I have always looked for the most optimal option possible in life, taking into account my possibilities. I think that if I see myself like this, the best option would be to jump into the sea with a stone tied to me. Let's see if there are balls. shit, it takes a lot of balls. I am shaking now seeing the real moment of the suicide. the most glorious death. the most worthy, that of the man who decides his destiny, who rises among the flock and walks his way