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I don't remember that happening to me at all. I think I've never awakened inside of a night dream. But I do confirm that I now have a higher awareness inside night dreams. I rarely have nightmares, and even when I do, they don't faze me like before anymore. I have fought against the fear of death, and I have made a huge progress, even though still not complete progress. I can't really tell.

Why do most people on here seem to hate sports? Sports add so much to so many people’s lives, at the very least the spark enjoyment & love from people, is that not adding value to people’s lives and as a result adding value to a society? This is like saying an artist or musician doesn’t add anything to society, when of course they do. I would say be wary of judging everything based on “value” as that’s a fast track to a transactional life, for example only when you’re directly doing something of value is your life worthwhile. To you, sports may not do much, just like to me, I have no interest in computer Programming, yet to billions around the world they enrich their lives & most importantly people love playing them & isn’t life quite literally about enjoying it & doing what you love? The reason Leo does what he does is precisely because he loves it, I remember both Rupert Spira / Francis Lucille they teach simply because they love to, it is one of many ways to express this understanding. What makes a great athlete great, is because they love the sport, same as great writers, musicians, artists, inventors, scientists, spiritual teachers etc, they are all doing what they love. People contribute to society on different levels. Im sure the millions of people who were inspired to start boxing & Golf as a result of these 2 strongly disagree that they “add nothing.” Have you ever played / watched sport? Billions of people love sport worldwide and it improves there lives, as well as the countless physical & mental benefits it has, that’s aside from the entertainment these 2 in particular provide when they perform. This is the same for writers, musicians, artists etc as I mentioned above. Just because they aren’t enlightening people directly, doesn’t mean it isn’t a valuable LP. Sport helps society in a number of ways, I think it’s very naive to say it doesn’t. If you don’t like sport, that’s fair enough, but to just discredit billions of people’s forms of enjoyment is quite reductionist, do you not think? To me a good example of a LP is doing something you love, for the love of it that also has a positive impact on society in any way. So, in the athletes case they are obviously doing something they love, and then they are 1) entertaining the fans & spectators that watch them, and providing enjoyment to people that way 2) inspiring / encouraging people to play sport themselves which as I mentioned before has helped & improved billions of people’s lives a number of ways- physically, mentally, socially, teaching discipline, offering life lessons as well etc. You mention Ninja & I think video games are slightly different, as while they offer enjoyment & social benefits, they are more prone to negative effects as we all know. (Not saying sports are perfect, but it’s far healthier to play football than play FIFA for hours on end) Not everyone is destined to be a spiritual teacher, or something in spirituality. This understanding can be expressed in numerous ways, and I for one look forward to when more awakened beings enter fields like sports, art, writing, movies, science, etc etc Sorry for the rant, but I feel sports gets a shit rep on here for some reason, and think it’s completely unjustified, I’ll leave you with 2 things- A video from Rupert on career- (Sports express love, for example Francis plays Tennis) Sadhguru article on sports- https://isha.sadhguru.org/global/en/wisdom/sadhguru-spot/be-a-sport ”Being a sport means you are willing to play. Willing to play means you are involved or alive to the situation in which you exist, and that is the essence of life. If there is anything that is truly close to a spiritual process, in the normal course of life, that is sports. Swami Vivekananda went to the extent of saying, “In kicking a ball or playing a game, you are much closer to the Divine than you will ever be in prayer.” Because you can pray without involvement, but you cannot play sports without involvement, and involvement is the essence of life.” Spend your life doing something you love, that should be the starting point! Then from there create positive impact

I have moved past that point, I don't want to get enlightened yet. To have awakened to it is enough. So I am not holding on/being attached or overvalueing ecstasy/pleasure anymore. I don't remember feeling fear in my last posts, because I am just looking for solutions. What is fear? Certainly I am/have been holding myself back, is that the fear you are referring to? Limiting my possibility or my full potential or what you would like to call it. If I want to continue school I need to live with limited consciousness doing only what is appropriate/needed there. I was/am just looking for different ways to move forward. I will not be homeless but rather live in a van. I also won't get money from the social support. I am studying half my time at a school and there is a lot that I can do here for these people. Whatever I choose to do I need to stay in school atleeast for a couple of months/half a year longer so that I will be 18 and have a driving licence + my van built. Then I will take the summer to do what consciousness chooses, will I spend the summer blissful by myself or involving myself more in the world, we will see. If I'll quit school before summer or bear with 1,5 more year we'll see. I don't live too much in the past or future so this is the only time in weeks I've thought about all of this that I am writing right now. I want to escape from not doing what I truly want to do, What I truly want is a conducive atmosphere for the kind of lifestyle that works the best for me and the life around me.

This is an excerpt from a book called Zhaun Falun (Turning The Law Wheel). In this excerpt it explains what Enlightenment is and what it entails from a QiGong Masters perspective: "So if energy practices have such a long history, you might be wondering just what exactly they’re for. I can tell you that ours is an advanced Buddhist method of spiritual practice, and so it seeks to bring you to divinity, or what’s known as “Buddhahood.” And Daoist methods, similarly, seek to foster enlightenment, or enable you to “attain the Way,” as it’s called. The idea of becoming divine shouldn’t seem absurd, or far out, as it may to some. For example, take the concept of Buddha. It’s a term from the ancient Indian language known as Sanskrit. The term has undergone various permutations in China since arriving there long ago, being translated phonetically as foah-toah, foo-too, and eventually just foah. Translated into our own language today, the term simply means “one who has awakened,” and refers to any being who has gained a state of awakening through spiritual discipline. So it shouldn’t seem that far-fetched. Consider that extraordinary powers can come to those who engage in spiritual discipline. While six types of powers are now generally recognized, there are in fact a myriad number that exist. There are individuals who can, just while sitting in place, do things that normally even physical action couldn’t accomplish; or they might be able to see the true workings of the universe in multiple dimensions, and how it really is, and see things that are invisible to others. I think you would have to agree, then, that they have attained a higher state of awakening, or spiritual attainment, and are no longer mere mortals. So it’s only fitting to call them spiritually awakened, holy, or divine—or in ancient Indian terms, a “Buddha.” And this is what these practices are in fact meant to achieve. Some people can’t imagine why anyone would want to do practices like chi-gong or tai-chi for anything other than health. The implication being that that’s all they are for. But that’s a very shallow view of these. People can’t be faulted for thinking that way, though, because many instructors of these practices are only focused on health, and nobody is offering guidance of a higher, more spiritual sort. I don’t mean to imply anything bad about what they’re teaching. That’s the role that they are meant to play—to keep it at the level of health and popularize these arts. But many people are looking for something more, for something spiritual, that can take them further. Yet without a true spiritual teaching to guide them, it’s going to be hard and they are apt to get into trouble. Instruction of a higher sort involves bigger things, naturally enough, and so you really have to go about it in a way that’s responsible to people, or the world. And that is why we have had good results all around. Some of what we talk about is a bit lofty, for sure, and to some people it might sound hard to believe. So I’ll do my best to draw scientific parallels to help make sense of things. Some of the things we’ll be discussing provoke strong reactions from people, who quickly dismiss them. They think that anything that isn’t known to science, that they haven’t personally experienced, or that seems impossible to them must be nonsense and divorced from reality. But is that the right way to look at the world?—to write off anything not known to science, even if it’s because of science’s limitations? It seems to me that this line of thinking puts a little too much faith in science, and is itself divorced from reality. If everyone had this mindset it would utterly stifle any scientific progress or innovation. And you would see few developments in the world, more broadly. Every technological development represents a step beyond what was formerly known. If the world’s innovators had treated the unknown as “nonsense,” we wouldn’t be where we are today. Many people simply don’t understand practices like chi-gong or tai-chi, and think they are nonsense. But that’s not the case. Consider that scientific instruments have detected that the bodies of true masters of these practices emit everything from infrasonic waves to ultrasonic and electromagnetic waves, to infrared rays, ultraviolet rays, gamma rays, neutrons, atoms, and trace metal elements. All of these are very much real and physically exist. There is a physical basis to everything. And the same would certainly hold true for the other dimensions and realms that we discuss. So there are no grounds for writing them off as nonsense. Since these practices are meant to make us divine, any discussion of them is naturally going to touch upon a lot of deep things, and we won’t shy away from them. It’s curious that practices like these, which have such a profound purpose, sometimes have very ordinary-sounding names. For example, chi-gong* simply means “energy practice.” But they are more properly referred to as spiritual practice—or in traditional Chinese culture, as self-cultivation. For that is their purpose. Of course, there are many individual names for such practices, but as a whole they should be referred to as spiritual practices. The case of how chi-gong got its name is telling. It has to do with the state of affairs in China some twenty years ago, when these practices first started to gain in popularity. China was in the middle of the Cultural Revolution at the time, and there was a strong stigma and hostility surrounding traditional thought and culture; only later did interest in these practices peak. Without getting into the earlier spiritual names for chi-gong, which predate known history, we can see just from the names it’s had in this cycle of civilization what the issue would have been: they were very much religious, owing to the times they date back to, and often had what people would have considered “feudal,” or backward, overtones. Examples included the Great Way of Practicing the Dao, Vajra Meditation, Way of the Buddhist Saints, The Dafa of Buddhahood, and The Nine-Cycle Method of the Golden Elixir. Naming your practice something like that during the Cultural Revolution would have gotten you denounced and attacked—even if you were sharing the practice with people out of good intentions, like to promote better health. And so nobody dared to use traditional-sounding names. What most instructors did, instead, was to adopt two non-controversial terms—chi and gong (“energy” and “practice”)—from traditional Chinese spiritual texts to refer to their practices. So even though you now see some people researching the history of “chi-gong,” there’s not much to it. It would have just been referred to as spiritual practice, or self-cultivation, before. So the term chi-gong is just a recent invention that was meant to suit a modern, secular sensibility." If anyone is interested the full book can be downloaded here. It talks about spiritual things from a scientific perspective. It talks about other dimensions, the soul, the cosmos in the microcosm and the macrocosm, supernatural abilities, karma, healing, the true history of mankind, transcending the 5 elements and leaving the 3 realms and many many other fascinating things: https://falundafa.org/eng/eng/pdf/Zhuan-Falun-2018-v1.9.pdf

Just want to share some of the insights that I got from a few psilocybin trips: You're God and you're all alone. and you need to forget that (deceive yourself) in order to "experience" life. The more conscious you are, the less things you can enjoy in life in a sense. For example, when you were a child, your consciousness was low. that's the reason you could play with toys and do all those things that now you wouldnt want to do anymore. Then when you're in your late teens, early twenties or late twenties or so, you probably want success, fame, money, girls etc. That's because of your consciousness level. The more you develop yourself, the less appealing those things are to you. The more conscious you become, the more you want to be in solitude and the fewer friends you probably want to have. One reason is because you can't relate to anyone anymore. and once you see realize the truth, you can't really communicate this to anyone. That's like trying to tell someone in your dreams that he's not real and that this is only your dream. You're stuck in eternity. There's nowhere to go, nothing to do. That's why self-deception is key. You need to forget. You don't want the truth. Your ego doesnt want it. To realize you're alone and that there's no "other" is not what you want. Trust me. You want to be decevied, to be asleep, so that you can play this game (enjoy, experience life so to say). Imagine if you played an MMORPG game and suddenly realized that "other players" werent really real - that they were just like NPCs, and you were the only player, always playing against yourself. That means no point in playing anymore... You want others to exist to make the game interesting. But once you see that they arent real, you can't enjoy it anymore, at least not to the same extent. I am talking about your ego. Your mind is creating meaning out of everything. everything you do in your life is because you want to get "somewhere". If you meditate, you're doing it because you want to get somewhere with your meditation practice. You're not meditating because you want to experience the present moment at that particular time. You're doing in because you think it's improving you in some way, so that "one day" things will be better - you will be more conscious, more mindful, or whatever. But everything is meaningless, you won't ever get anywhere. Your mind is tricking you into doing things and making you think that things are going in some direction. And when you experience this - when you become deeply conscious that everything is meaningless - it's one of the worst feelings. You'll think you're going crazy. And then you will ask yourself what's the difference between crazy & not crazy.... and more fear will arise. The universe is created in such a way that we constantly search for all the answers outside. when you're in a deceived state, you wonder "what's out there", "why do I exist", "what is existence", "is the universe infinite", and all these endless questions... just to turn yourself away from realizing the truth, away from turning inward. and then you take one psychedelic and everything is revealed to you. It becomes blatantly obvious why science can't ever get to this. and then you start asking yourself questions, "why was this revealed to me? Im a mere mortal. Why me, why me?". maybe because you're the only one? And there's some kind of defense mechanism built into this whole thing - overtime you slowly forget the psychedelic experience, so that you can get back to living this dream life of yours. If the ego knew what it's getting itself into by "doing" spirituality and psychedelics, it would run away never come close ever again. When you're in an awakened state, there's no point posting anything on this forum and trying to explain what you've experienced, or talking to anyone about it in real life, because you're aware you're just talking to yourself. But since Im not in that state anymore, I'll just pretend Im making this post for "other people". I've successfully deceived myself over the last year back into my old life, or dream I should say.

Toxicity doesn’t ‘work’ the way you’ve mislead yourself to believe. A mind confined as such would not recognize it if the entire universe weaved of itself the greatest possible gift for itself. The utilizing & clinging to this falsity is fear. Fear is the avoidance of feeling. This is like vacuuming the floor, not even noticing it’s not plugged in, and assuming it’s the vacuum’s fault that vacuuming is not possible. This is like believing “we are unable to interact in a healthy way”, and missing you’re creating that belief. The belief is there is toxicity, and other people are toxic. The truth is you are the source, and there is no toxicity, just the occasional innocent judgement. It is good that there is feeling, so this is readily recognized. These are the words of an awakened being. By awakened, I mean one who recognizes the distinction between conceptualization & direct experience, and as such is a source of wisdom. If I were you, I’d spend a day reading this: “Why not use that as clarification to be the Dad you wish you would've had? You don't have to sacrifice or give up any of your life dreams for your kid. Don't use your life dreams as an excuse to skip out on your kid and don't use your kid as an excuse to skip out on your life dreams. Either option is fear talking and making excuses. The kid might help you clarify the shit out of your life plans though. It might seem like you're making sacrifices. You've been given a gift. You can have your cake and eat it too. Really. You cannot ruin anyone else's life without their permission. Let yourself off the hook, drop this fear and then you'll be free to act from the heart. Also likewise your ex and her influence cannot effect you without you giving it permission. Is it easier to cut someone off so we aren't affected by them? It seems that way in the short term but that's only kicking the can down the road. We'll inevitably run into the same kind of thing down the road with another partner in some other way until we learn to face the issue.”

I don’t know how else to put this, but this video has led to an awakening. Since I started reading about people’s DMT experiences a couple of years ago I somehow innately knew the truth, even though I’d never done psychedelics or meditated seriously. However I was not ready for this revelation at the time - I have had mental health issues for much of my life, and my reaction was one of great panic and wishing I’d known nothing about any of it. I managed to gradually fall back into my ego after I stopped viewing spiritual content, and hadn’t thought too much of the matter again. However, today this video appeared in my recommended and I couldn’t pull myself away from clicking on it and viewing the whole thing. I now find myself in a similar situation after having watched this video; the awakening which may have been partial before now feels completely profound. In some ways it is beautiful, however I must admit that at this stage of my life I am not in a fit state of mind to deal with this knowledge, and am willing to say that I would rather live with the wool pulled over my eyes for a while longer. Will this stay with me forever now or is it possible that I can return to my ego? I have had incredibly vivid dreams most nights of my life, which may be an indicator of my susceptibility to being awakened even without intending to be. I also experienced an alcohol induced psychosis earlier this year, during which I believe my suppressed intuitive knowing of consciousness came to the fore and faced active resistance in the form of my ego. It’s only after the experience of watching this video that I’ve been able to draw that connection, however I fear that I now cannot go back. Can anyone help?

“Ultimate” is also a superlative. I find it curious how superlatives are used and mind immersion into superlatives. We could say there is an ultimate truth and non-ultimate truths. In one context, it is a deep insight. Yet when the duality is seen, it’s silly in another context. At the higher levels, beings can be “multi lingual”. When they speak of a “thing” it can appear as though they have not awakened to another “thing”. In one context there is what appears to be stuckness within the process of thoughts. When the mind is transcending thought constructs, it becomes obvious when other minds are stuck within thought processes. There is strong contrast. Yet eventually this duality collapses as well into Nothing. What I write here is both thought processes and not thought processes. Thought processes, feelings, intuition, awakenings, cows, trees, quantum mechanics, face palms, nonduality and cookies all dissolve into Nothing. It’s so beautiful. As you eloquently express: ♥️

I bealive the more awakened beings we have the more we will be able to develop such powers. It just that is is difficult when collective conciousness wants to keep us where it is at.

No, not at all. Here’s some more specific info (below). Just opinion of course, but I’d be really careful about such a blanket lens. It’d be a trap to mistake judgement for one’s own authoritative measurement contingent on correlations (thoughts) between ‘awake’ & ‘ego consciousness’. There can be seemingly (falsely) awakened narcissists. It is entirely possible to “have awakening experiences” and perpetuate misidentification / dilute, refuse psychological help, refute all feedback, and ‘triple down’ if you will, on a more grandiose bypassing. As well, there are what someone might call ‘ego consciousness’ folks who are authentic, sincere, selfless & loving. Overview Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism. A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or financial affairs. People with narcissistic personality disorder may be generally unhappy and disappointed when they're not given the special favors or admiration they believe they deserve. They may find their relationships unfulfilling, and others may not enjoy being around them. Symptoms Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and the severity of symptoms vary. People with the disorder can: Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerate achievements and talents Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations Take advantage of others to get what they want Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Be envious of others and believe others envy them Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can: Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation The recommenced treatment method is psychotherapy / psychoanalysis. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

This man has come so far it nearly brought a tear to my eye. Materialists questions very conscious answers. I can see that the ordinary mundane world thinks he’s off his rocker. From social media and that. They just don’t understand where he’s coming from. But mike is aware, his answers are fantastic. To think what he was, where he’s been and what he’s gone through, in the public eye too, this man is going places. Yep of course I know he’s not an awakened guy, but he is genuinely awakening as a human being. The beauty of consciousness shows in this interview. It shows that no matter what you’ve been through, the ultimate nature of everything is love. And Tyson projects it. Fantastic

Hey guys, it's my first post ever and I hope I will be able to clearly explicate my experiences and hopefully find other fellow warriors that I could relate to. I'm 23 and I 'found out' about spirituality about 4-3 years ago, after trying mdma for the first time. After that I meditated and did yoga on and off, found out about Ram Dass, Leo, Allan Watts, Teal and others; had around 10 solid psychedelic trips, one was really traumatic (experienced ego death, was definetely not ready for it yet). I also had a couple of dmt trips and about 2 years ago started meditating everyday. Started with 10mins a day, in four months it went up to an hour, since I was preparing to go to my first Vipassana retreat. Anyway long story short it all started in my vipassana retreat, I 'unlocked' something (now I'm pretty sure it's what is being called kundalini) with my first samadhi experience (first such high consciousness exp not drug induced). Since the retreat I can feel energy moving througout my body, sometimes I can't sleep, sometimes I sleep too much. It goes in cycles, those cycles more than often synchronize with moon cycles. I guess those cycles could also be described as ego death/ego backlash cycles? It goes like this: I start to feel distracted and drawn to addictive behaviors (staying on my phone longer than usual, lost in my thoughts more and more, feel more difficult to understand when I am satiated when I eat, harder to meditate etc) and it goes on for a couple of days, then gets worse bit by bit. It's hard to fall asleep, sometimes I stay up all night painting. If I manage to fall asleep, I feel energies going up my body starting from my toes, sometimes I wake up to those at night (at first it was worse, now I kinda got used to it a bit). Then I get to a point when I feel loads of energy inside, flowing from one part of my body to others, but at the same time I feel physically tired. Hard to get anything done, I want to sleep a lot or lay in bed all day. Around at that time I feel that 'something is coming'. Like the energy is ready to shoot out. Then something from 'the outside world' alings with what is going on in with these energies inside me. I find out something really big in therapy, or find a youtube video that blows my mind or something happens in my social life and it feels like it triggers the energy to pour out. In this stage I experience a lot of crying. Ofc, depends on what I find out, sometimes it's beautiful, sometimes it's hella painful. After this vomit of unconscious stuff I experience high states of consciousness in meditation (samadhi experiences if I may call them that way). Extreme love and peacefulness. I also noticed that as I find out something about 'myself' I also find out something about the universe. After those experiences, when I come back to myself, or the ego I guess, my perception is changed. I see life more clearly and I often make positive changes in my personal life. However, the deep samadhi experience triggers more unconscious stuff (my theory from 1,5 year of observation lol) which then after some days of euphoria and peacefulness starts the cycle again. Since vipassana I meditate 2 times a day, 1h each usually. I journal everyday, go to see a therapist once a week (really helps to ground myself and work through some childhood trauma), paint a lot (I'm a wanabe artist), drink lots of water, doing stretches and so on. I literally do everything that can possibly minimize the craziness of those cycles and was wondering is there anything I'm missing? It's scary to think that these might last for years or even decades (read somewhere). At first I was worried I awakened my kundalini prematurely and it will not lead to any good, but after several months I understood that there is no such thing as a premature awakening whatsoever. Everything happened as it should have been, and I am thankful for every single second of it, no matter how painful and world shattering this experience is to me. Being more conscious led me to completely change my life for the better. So now I am in a place of acceptance of what is going on, also willingness to move forward and hoping to find ways to facilitate this process. I will be thankful for any comments or advice.

Like Frank Yang says, awakening and being smart are independent things, you can become conscious of the nature of reality while still being a trump supporter. No doubt Connor has had a profound experience, as his best friend says in his video it doesn't seem to be an act. If guys like Jake or Logal Paul awakened right now, no doubt they would be acting very similar to Connor here. Which begs the question.. is the pursuit of truth more important than the pursuit of wisdom?

I think this is where relativity of points of view come in and how language works. If you tell the average joe shmoe on the street that awakening is realizing that you are God and everything is infinite imagination, how much does that do to help him really and communicate what awakening is? He has no idea what the hell those words mean. At best he will attach some meaning of what he's associated 'God' and 'imagination' with in the past and make a mental model out of that. Language is only useful to the extent we can communicate by emitting certain sounds to create meaning in the mind of another person. Thus, awakened people may speak in these weird anecdotes because they appreciate how reality is being seen from many different points of view. And if you think about it reality only exists as an infinite number of different points of view. Thus hard 'facts' through language are not absolute, but only absolute from a certain point of view. At the same time the absolute is absolute so this is where things get wack.

Free will, as a concept, is a trap. For unawakened people, the idea of free will makes them think they can "pursue enlightenment", when the truth is that enlightenment pursues them. For awakened people, the idea of free will is also a trap, because it ties them to the person. They are no more free to choose than unawakened people. The only freedom is Consciousness itself, manifesting through its creations. We can't take credit for anything. Whatever it is that makes us choose what we choose, it is because we were created to make that choice. How could it be otherwise?

Reminds me very much of @Joseph Maynor. I tried with him for years and it only got worse because he was so pig-headed. I would rather focus my energy on people who will benefit from the advice. I used to believe that everyone should be awakened and saved, but this is not the case. Most are not ready.

lmao, he just wants to intellectualize Awakening / Non-Duality without any sort of experiential understanding. The fact you think truly awakened beings couldn't be an Engineer is funny, the paradox is, they'd likely be an incredible engineer if they wanted to & actually create things to benefit the System as a whole. Definitely shows several dangers of this work- Wanting to intellectualize everything in life & believing the mind is the master Not being able to conflate absolute & relative truths Going into any endeavor with your 'Cup already full', it means you aren't ready to learn. This isn't just true of spirituality. It's like going to a basketball coach, him telling you how to improve your game & then you saying nah fuck that, gonna carry on how I was as I must be right. Tbf, this Forum isn't ideal for new seekers, as I feel you need a base understanding to gain anything from most discussions. @Leo Gura @Nahm maybe we could create a 'New To Non-Duality / Spirituality Thread' which recommends some of the best books, videos, teachings etc that help new people understand the path? I know you have your booklist & videos, but sometimes so much choice can be overwhelming, perhaps finding the 3 best Beginner books & videos for examples with help people at the start, and will prevent very entry level questions & situations like this. Almost like if you were going to teach someone to Code, you'd expect them to know how to turn on the computer & the basics of technology, you wouldn't want to have to teach them the very, very basicS?

@The0Self See, I really don't know how far along I am with any psychs because of the given nature of infinity and implicit understanding. LSD has awakened me to a LOT of things. But, I haven't gone deep enough. I do 1p-LSD and I do not get any visuals. I will awaken. Last time I was on DMT God gave me the thumbs up. Honestly DMT is a great time ahahah. Well, I gave it to myself.

Yeah, but that's the problem of telling this to people who've not gotten it. That may be the truth in the direct experience of the one who has awakened, but saying it to a none awakened person is dismissing the process which led you to your awakening in the first place.

Christianity states that Jesus is the Son of God. Islam states there is only one God, and there is no holy trinity; Jesus can only be a prophet. The holy trinity represents three different aspects of Oneness and it doesn't contradict Islam. The father (Infinite Intelligence) The son (Consciousness Incarnate) The Holy Spirit (The field of Oneness) You are infinite intelligence incarnating itself into human form. Everything is made by you as infinite intelligence, including the incarnate self, which can experience spirit (Oneness) through awakening. Jesus created a narrative of being the son of God, as a way to explain awakening, but it was lost in translation. Prior to rationality, a lot of Oneness was misunderstood. People assumed they could have superpowers if they were God, or could perform miracles. They didn't take into account the limitations of incarnate form. Islam believes in Oneness, One God, Allah There is no contradiction here, as all dualities collapse, even the Holy Trinity. The confusion with Allah is, similar to Christians, they never become Jesus or Allah. Both biblical texts are showing you two different ways of being God/Allah or Jesus/Mohamed Mohammed and Jesus is a duality. - They're both awakened individuals. God and Allah is a duality. - They both refer to infinite intelligence. What we are seeing is these teachings becoming more nuanced, to clear up confusion. Less personifications, less worshipping, more scientific methods to achieve awakening. The biggest setback is the corruption of these teachings. People who are not realised, confuse these teachings and use them to unknowingly prevent awakening. It likes a scientist who has so many theories, but never sees the actuality of the science. Their mind constructs a theoretical reality. It might be factual true, but it's experientially false. You mind can't live in books or stories, or whatever fantasy it conducts. It has to come back to the realest thing there is, conscious experience of the present moment. There is a mental cloud that prevents that; only a conscious individual can discern it. Progression of Spiritual Teaching Son of God -> Oneness of God -> Non-duality

It was not hidden for the content of claiming to be awakened or god. In my judgement it violated the forum policy for excessive self promotion. For those interested in his post, I’ll repost it without the self promotion.

Its fine, no worries. For them its an amazing insight(which given credit.... it is). Go beyond. So wanna chat about some deeper insights you may have gotten? perhaps you have realized other aspects of reality. What about this... You exist so much(as an individual) that everything you do matters. honestly explore the self side. the self that knows its playing a game. the self that knows it exists because you are an aspect of reality playing with itself. yeah, they have a limit. A true spiritual master says those lines less and less as they grow(they could if its their path, but a highly awakened person does not tend to do that) Its not that they become less true it is that they see more aspects to reality. For someone still understanding this one truth they will fall in and out it often when trying to keep their consciousness raised. Tbh, people who say that all the time are great as they are growing but they are not that high conscious

The main controversy with Mooji is the claim of lineage to Ramana Maharshi. The only 2 beings that Ramana formally declared as awakened were his mother just prior to her death, and Lakshmi the cow (yes, really). Papaji was a wonderful student of Ramana, though he gave rise rise to his own students (Gangaji, Mooji, etc.) leading modern Satsang sessions while claiming a lineage to Ramana that was never endorsed by Ramana himself. Having said that, I don't believe that Ramana himself would be in the least bit bothered. The only issue that appeared to upset Ramana was cruelty towards the animals. Even direct defamation against him did not trouble him in the slightest, nor was he interested in questions of which other teachers are fully realised; he told his followers to mind their own business! Some Advaita teachers also had a strong opposition to receiving money for their teachings, or feel that teachers should be celibate. If we take this to the extreme, Ramana is the only teacher who is 100% clean. Keep in mind that a lot of the prostrating and veneration stuff was happening even to Ramana, and is a part of the culture that Mooji controversially 'inherited'. In the end, Mooji's teachings are very pure and bring the essence of self-inquiry to a modern audience that might otherwise miss out. The small elements of cultic tendencies within the culture are only a minimal blemish. If you are given a pot full of gold, but then find a couple of pieces of coal inside, do you discard the entire thing?

If someone had awakened and is now living boundlessly such as a Buddha. Without working for money but living for people and the world, would his survival be taken care of within little time? What if he didn't involve himself with people, but mostly observed and explored the world. What about survival then, would it somehow be taken care of?

@Breakingthewall I will do it my way? It just may happen one of you write something that happens alters my way, and that would be beautiful. I am 17 years old, can't get a drivers license yet. So I will (maybe) wait half a year more before leaving school, but then I would only have one year left to finish. In school I only do what I need to do then I meditate every chance I get, though I don't touch the seventh chakra, I can't surrender myself to "love" if I need to do things like sitting quiet doing schoolwork. I will ask the teachers to have a place for me to meditate without bringing attention to myself. If I finish school I could work with young children and make a lot of money in a year which would let me quit and live my highest potential for quite a while. I am not going to finish though, it's too long, too much limiting myself. By the chance of zero there is actually a classmate in my class that sais she has awakened or opened her third eye. She has little attendance, fools around during lessons and limits herself to a minimum while barely getting a passing grade. If I don't limit my seventh chakra or enlightened state I wouldn't be here so I can't really do that as of right now. I only sit in stillness all the time. When I get home I work on my van.