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  1. This quote by Arkandeus needs to be pinned. Talking about such matters is INSANELY wasteful~ sorta like mindlessly ejaculating just because, even when it is entirely unnecessary to orgasm. I was very lucky. In navigating a prolonged period of what I'll call grace, decades ago, I never had anyone to tell or ask. The detriment to talking about such matters is really laid bare in the ancient phrase, "the spoils of war are lost in celebration." Even an authentic teacher or spiritual guide isn't glib about such matters. purerogue wrote: So true. Again, I was so very lucky, in that I never knew. All I had was a sense of wonder with no conceptions or expectations. I was very lucky. Even so, people going off at the mouth due to a little insight isn't the fault of the internet— it's been the case for millennia.
  2. Mostly when I'm dancing~ and as far as I know, game isn't in need of any formality. For me it's never off. It's really not that subtle in terms of energy; which would be characteristic of INFP. What's so arbitrary is role-playing, albeit for the sake of brevity, it's understandable. Nevertheless, there's so much forcing of an issue and the goal oriented psychological momentum. The hustlers are trying to get there and I'm already there. The present is cosmically erotic… Interestingly, it's femme who join me innocently enough. If they're straight, it's a beautiful thing because they are really present-- unless they've stooped to being escorted~ with that, they tend to be escorted off the dance-floor when their date can't stand it any longer-- whoopsie!! Lez tend to cut straight to the chase after a few compliments, much as the straight males. Of course, gays guys are a blast due to a lack of expectations. People are sso sexy~ too bad we're always ruining potential by habituation to taking it somewhere else before it's so. ed note: change last line of penultimate paragraph
  3. Oui-oui~ that's even better than I hoped, dear~ nevertheless, how you expressed it in the OP isn't to be discounted. Use what you have left for the time being and just work with what is, (precisely as it is) in order to see through what must not be denied. Now I'm very happy I saw your thread, Gligorjie❤︎!!
  4. The thoughts coming back at you is fine, kobe! Just be present to see them as they arise, so the ordinary conditioned mental state of letting thoughts arise unawares is forever discontinued. Never ever try to stop thoughts from arising— you will suffer mental illness!! Just let the thoughts arise as you watch them with an unbending intent that continues observation with an unbroken subtle quality of attention. After a long long time, the arising of random thought will lessen somewhat. Eventually, there will come a time when you witness long periods of no random arising of mental activity. But this is not yet wonderful. This is what many students of meditation mistake for their shining mind— it's not! You don't actually need to "let go" of random arising of thought because immediate knowledge of arising thought is already enough. The ancient admonition is; use concentration to gain insight, once you gain insight, relax into it by not pursuing insight once you realize seeing: seeing insight. In taoist alchemical terminology, using concentration to gain insight is "advancing the fire." Once you reach sufficiency, "withdraw the fire." The key to "advancing" your effective developmental state of subtle observation is to "let go" of deliberate conscious observation once the reformative habit has begun to stabilize, in order to allow something the ancients call potential to arise. It is not other than your own mind right now~ but other than that, it cannot be described. In the beginning, seeing random thought is termed "insight", because the shining mind and random mental activity are mixed in together. After a long time, the arising of thought can be properly referred to as "potential", but I can't say why. It's just the way it is and nobody knows why. There is no why. When insight begins to constitute the arising of potential, through one's "letting go" of deliberate meditative observation, the same rule applies: advance the fire, then, when sufficiency is attained, withdraw the fire. Do this over and over in the course of observation. Do not entertain anticipatory longing or ambitions of spiritual wonderment, or you will never get anywhere and will end up as one of those who sit on the zazen (meditation) seat for 20 or 30 years without seeing potential or passing through self-conscious mental activity. I just wanted to make it clear that meditation, per se, is not good. There is a point to it, but that result must be discovered on one's own without regard to "progress" relative to the thinker, knower, and liver of life. It is Mind alone, selfless— miraculously awake. Perhaps you will stumble upon an ancient book I have heard of called "Stopping and Seeing." ed note: typo 1st sentence
  5. Yay! Gligorije is listening! Thank you for that, mon ami~ even us "motivational" speakers need feedback… don't think I wasn't wondering about vous. I saw your OP in the dungeon of neglected thread-starters with ZERO responses, and had to say something! You are experiencing (suffering from) EXTREME loss and that just won't go away by itself. This is an excruciating process, omg… My friend lost most of his hand when he was very young, figuring out what a gasoline powered lawn-mower does (ouch!!). Well, what I said about a steel guitar is true, and you can do that much— so at least do that much, ok? ❤︎
  6. There are two people following this thread~ none of whom are the thread starter, Gligorije. Nice.
  7. I liked your guys' responses a lot— but somebody had to be the first to bust through. It might be easy to overlook the compounded nature of this kind of mental space when unfortunate events derail healthy, constructive responses. I say that because, at times, those I have worked with were obviously in a vortex of feeling bad about feeling bad. I suggested as clearly as possible, that just won't do!
  8. Or consider this— You are 62, but look 37 (and act 27), and hang out in a trendy café all day, so way too many other 20~30-something femme don't know you're not an international playboy and don't know you don't have your own place so they can't help imagining having some crazy fun (at your expense) with you and are trying to get you to chase them, but you live in your 85 year old parents' guesthouse/studio, and just love practicing rockabilly guitar all night anyway cuz it's more fun than than chasing ME? Hhahhahahahahhahahhahahahhahahhahahhahhahahaa!! I wanna cry. Just do the minimum— it hasn't killed you yet, has it? I feel like bonking his bones and dragging him to MY place and fete him until he wakes up and LOVES me!!!!! But I digress… I say get a lap steel guitar and stick a pick on your stump (or the bar if it's your other stump) and crank it to 12, mon ami. Yes, it sucks, but what are you going to do? Seek the inevitable~ or just wait for it. If you've been out chopping off your hand, go inside and write about how beautiful something is with your other hand until you pass out. If you've been inside your whole life and are a pasty dough-boy, get outside and climb to the top of something over and over again until I can at least discern your ass from those other lumps you're dragging around. I hope I made you smile…❤︎ Make someone else smile~ how's that for doing the minimum?
  9. I feel that not telling anyone is the smartest thing of all— keep going, mr Valiant!
  10. Surprisingly, none of the career quiet-sitters have sought to help you (yet), kobe. Most people consider meditating with eyes open much more difficult than with eyes closed. I would recommend having the eyes open just a bit. I would not recommend that you use your eyes to do anything. Relax everything inside and outside; forget inside and outside, and just observe mind without deliberation. Completely dispense with rambling mental commentary without trying to stop it by force of will. Just intend to notice it along with everything else that occurs (or not). The ancient admonition is to not be afraid of thoughts, just be afraid of not noticing thoughts unawares. That's what rudimentary reformative meditation practice is. It's PRACTICE. It's practicing a subtle awareness of the mind that moves by the mind that shines. Don't make the mistake and think that there are two minds. The scattered mind IS the shining mind. It's an inconceivability. After a long long time, you'll find out less and less as the mind-ground clarifies. Whether your eyes are open or closed or somewhere in-between isn't as important as noticing thoughts as they occur without entertaining further commentary relative to habitual ingrained psychological activity. There are many ways to approach subtle observation of mind. Sitting meditation is effective practice for some people. I've never practiced "just sitting" myself. The point of reformative practice is to discover the means to see what underlies conditioned awareness and then endeavor to apply that potential in the midst of everyday ordinary situation by using impersonal subtle observation to fluidly meet the requirements of the moment without following habitual ego-reflective psychological patterns. In doing so, self-refinement is accelerated.
  11. hi Audible~ I love Brasil❤︎!! It's just right now. There's never been any other time or place. Just this is it. There is nothing to prepare for. Quiet meditation practice is ok, but realize that such practice is only reformative— unless one applies its supposed benefits in real time, absolutely no real and practical developmental refinement is accrued in terms of approaching unity of oneself and others. Strive to accept your current human being in terms of responsibility for your actions (before and after the fact) and just share yourself openly with the world with open hands, without conceiving of the though to seek anything— as mr River suggests in the above post. Seeking is itself a hesitation, a separation from this moment. Seeking is itself procrastinating! Seeking is also a form of craving, which must ultimately be dispensed with. If you have learned anything from sitting meditation, just learn to activate it in terms of the quality of attention that applies to subtle observation of mind without dredging up conditioned responses to inner and outer situations. There's no thing (out there); it's just your self-reifying perceptions (in terms of beginners' entry into open sincerity and self-refinement as an ongoing never ending process). After a long time of using ordinary situations to refine away the thinking self's self-conscious responses, one just opens up little by little to see reality as it is without as much self-reflecting consciousness to interfere with spontaneous accord with reality. ed note: add last sentence to 5th paragraph
  12. Try it~ I have the tincture for small spots on my skin-- although it is recommended for 10mg sublingually (under your tongue) for general health and well-being (applicable to mood disorders evidently). I happen to like my mood disorders. There is also a topical ointment (both products I use have a coconut oil base) for pain and maybe rash, but I only use the tincture sparingly on my skin. I wouldn't hesitate to try these products— maybe they will accomplish what you are hoping, MsNobody❤︎!!
  13. hi ShugendoRa~ I've added to the commentaries of several sections since you responded to this thread. This teaching is as ancient as it gets, yet the most recent historical account of its re-transmission occurred during the British rape of China during the 18th century. A corrupted version of this book was first translated into the German language by Richard Wilhelm in 1929 that subsequently became fashionably popular with the intelligentsia in Europe by its association with C. G. Jung's commentary. It is essentially a taoist/buddhist lay manual for the benefit of ordinary people, without regard to religious affiliation, being a concentrated revival of an ancient universalist teaching, according to Thomas Cleary 's translation, copyright 1991. I believe that I became aware of this current and correct version of the Golden Flower teaching's translation of the T'ai i chin hua tsung chih, sometime around the turn of the century and found that it fully corroborates my direct experience in inherent enlightening function pertaining to the means relative to recognizing potential and furthermore carrying out the operation of impersonal adaption to situations which is properly termed the absorption of potential. This current volume's version is associated with the great taoist alchemic teacher, Lü Tung-pin, who, by some accounts. is believed to have been born in 798 CE. He is purported to have appeared at various times during the last millennium. ed note: typo 1st sentence; add "by some accounts" in penultimate sentence
  14. The Secret of the Golden Flower is an ancient transmission directing people towards a subtle recognition of inherent capacities underlying habitual patterns of self-reifying psychological activity. The general mind-ground constituting these inherent capacities can be termed nonpsychological awareness. There have been attempts at giving this transmission a cultural attribution, but, to quote the Avatsakam Sutra (Hua Yin or Flower Ornament Scripture), "Civilization is by virtue of Universal Good, not a country." Ultimately, the true teacher is in one's heart of hearts. I am quoting directly from some of the 16 paragraphs comprising the tenth chapter of the volume translated by Thomas Cleary to serve as an introduction to the book, The Secret of the Golden Flower, Harper San Francisco ISBN 0-06-250193-3, as well as to help point out basic tenets of 24/7 subtle observation which is beyond the scope of rote reformative meditation practice done in private or in cloistered settings by beginners and those habituated to such methods of comfort. I have already introduced the elements of general practice in differentiating the psychological and nonpsychological capacities comprising human awareness. The title of chapter X makes this differentiation obvious in terms that should be recognized as having the same source, that is, the light of awareness. Chapter X is titled, The Light of Essence and the Light of Consciousness. The opening of potential is a very slippery term. By the end of the chapter, what comprises potential may become clearer. The point is that "turning the light around" is not a matter of time, place, activity or conditions. What matters is finding the opening of potential. The key to recognizing the opening of potential is in spontaneous activation of mind without falling into the habitual patterns of discriminatory consciousness. Spontaneous activation of mind is up to conditions. When it arises, subtle observation comes into play. Just see without entertaining views relative to self and other, right, wrong, good or bad and the opening of potential is ephemerally present …before the first thought, it's your own mind right now. When the light turns into ideational consciousness relative to self and other, the opening of potential is once again obscured, in that it cannot be seen by seeing. One must then concentrate subtle awareness and await the arising of the light of potential in the midst of situations unbeknownst to anyone. The real (potential) is found only by virtue of the false (delusional karmic evolution). One must await conditions to see reality. The taoist phrase, "Water produces metal", symbolizes an alchemic formula referencing the refinement of the body or vitality, (sensory awareness) into real knowledge. Answer~ not you. Your own mind before the first thought is not you. The special use of the term "not you" is just the selflessly aware potential essence not attributable to the psychological apparatus of the being that is going to die (the being that is going to die is you). Therefore, potential is termed "other", as in the saying, "Essence is the self, use it to call back sense", that is, use essence to recognize the real knowledge of the impersonal sense of potential. That's "not you." Calling it back is seeing potential. Seeing potential is itself absorption. "Mistaking the thieving human mentality (the light of consciousness) for the light of essence is the number one error of students.", is a very ancient warning for those whose introspective practices are not producing evidences of efficacy after even 5, 10, 20, or more years spent on the meditation cushion. Therefore the opening of potential is recognized in the quality of awareness which is not thought. Specifically, this is the mind which underlies the thinking, self-referencing function of the personality. When the thinking human mentality is forgotten, this is the true arising of essence. Therefore, this mind is not some other mind; there are no two minds: Mind is one. This is why it is said that all beings are already this enlightenment, but they are simply unable to recognize and permanently stabilize selfless potential in the midst of conditions due to habit energy (karmic psychological momentum). This is the alchemic correlate of the refinement of body/sense/water/vitality mentioned in section 4. This section refers to mind/essence/fire/energy, where energy refines into essence. This is the heart of the meaning of the Golden Flower transmission. Objects and sense organs are not the issue. There is no need to deny, restrict, or renounce anything in the Golden Flower method. The Secret of the Golden Flower is just recognizing, activating and using essence directly without intermediary (being the working definition of enlightening activity) in the midst of ordinary situations simply as a matter of effective use of mind which does not employ self-reifying consciousness habitually or unawares. It is fluid and impersonal communion with inconceivable reality as the totality of being within Suchness, that is, emptiness which has no such emptiness. This is one's spontaneously adapted expression of selfless unity neither conditional nor absolute. This is innate enlightening function which is not dependent on sudden enlightenment. The sudden is one such result of accrued virtuous activity carried out secretly in public over a long period of time. These are terms denoting advance practice. If one cannot forget the self that thinks, consciousness will not be stopped and the medicines will not become accessible for further refinement. Seeing potential is seeing unrefined potential. After a period of maturation, refined potential is released from the matrix of karmic evolution, that is, Creation (which is "crystallization of the elixir"). This is the meaning of the saying, "planting lotuses in fire, transcending endless transformations and entering the Way in Reality." ed note: typo 3rd; add "vitality" in 4th section's commentary; add to commentary of 6th section; change "enlightened" to "this enlightenment" in the commentary after 11th section; add commentary after 15th section
  15. hi Lauritz~ How wonderful to be so honest about your having come to notice a bit of exclusivity in your attitudes concerning personalistic value judgements toward certain intellectual fields or disciplines (not to mention areas of popular discourse). But it doesn't mean you ought necessarily modify your spheres of concentration in terms of study and development of your personal expertise/experience in the realms of technical/scientific or otherwise specialized practical endeavor when it concerns the long process of intent and maturation in clarifying the nature of perception and recognizing the profound interconnected insight evidenced in the canons attributable to the wisdom teachings that have accrued spanning the entire history and prehistory of human existence on this planet. You can be assured that those who specialize in academic (so-called intellectual) pursuits exercise unconscionable arrogance as a matter of course, just to fit in with their peers. You can also be assured that those specializing in dialectic discourse consider ideological accountings pertaining to right and wrong (truth and falsity) to be the living end of nonduality in action. In fact, conventional civilization is built on such absolutism. Lauritz wrote: Good point, but don't expect many people to follow their own virtuous pronouncements on such matters. For those who do though, in one of the earliest of Castañeda's books, Carlos told of Don Juan Matus saying that "nothing is more important than anything else." Or in another instance, and more powerfully, "Everything is significant." I say that nothing can be discounted …because you never know ~ heehee!! Nevertheless, it takes some gumption to say "the hell with all that trash.", and know single-minded resonance in your bones. Life is short~ yet it's a good strategy to be more encompassingly open-minded and circuitous than you might let on… might come in handy❤︎!! ed note: add parenthesis paragraph 5