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@Leo Gura Will your awakening course be refund If we do not manage to reach alien intelligence ?

@Leo Gura ? Is there a way of reaching that state of consciousness without psychedelics? What is more profound: God-Realization or Alien-Consciousness? Do you think Ralston or McKenna are aware of Alien-Consciousness?

@Leo Gura After awakening to Alien-Consciousness, can you maintain that level of Consciousness day-to-day?

When I speak of Alien Consciousness I am not talking about meeting aliens. I am talking about becoming conscious of what it's like to have an alien consciousness yourself.

If you are willing to see so much nuance in Leo's words then you should attribute nuance to the OP's words too. It's clear that most of us here watch Leo's videos and attribute nuance to his words. But if he uses a particular kind of style of using words then that creates a certain vibe. I don't think the OP is blind to the nuance in Leo's word, but he said what he said to counter-act that anti-human vibe Leo has created. While Leo himself may not be subject to it, I am pretty sure many people will fall into the trap of "everyone else is stupid" due to this anti-human vibe Leo creates. And by the looks of it OP fell into it too and just realized his way out of the trap and therefore is sharing that. If you feel like "But OP is clearly less nuanced than Leo therefore I should attribute less nuance to him" then you are doing exactly the kind of anti-human shit the OP is warning about. Also tbh Anti-Human is a bad term to use here @BlessedLion should've used something like 'a lack of love towards other human beings'. Because the term Anti-Human opens the convo to the 'Alien' aspect of life and I doubt OP is talking about that duality here.

I'm reminded of when Leo said he couldn't find a proper camera to record his alien transformation. I saw a ghost/spirit thing when I was really young. Now I'm wondering, if I had a camera, would I have been able to record it, or is it just locked into my state of consciousness? I think I finally understand Leo's sentiment about finding a proper camera. Although, the criteria that it should be easy to record or show to other people is pretty arbitrary. Has anyone ever recorded video evidence of a dream? No, but we know it exists.

I think it's a metaphysical safety mechanism that God put into place to not spoil the dream so easily. If I were to talk to aliens on say psychedelics and I was able to record that conversation and publish it, life as I knew it would never be the same. This way it's a subtle reminder that there is infinitely more going on than meets the eye, without the unthinkable repercussions that actual proof of an alien encounter would have.

The shadow plays out until it is recognized, loved, accepted and integrated. Outer <> Inner. Maybe Leo is an Alien, maybe he is playing his role as the trickster, great teachers they are, working through the dark, yet you are also the dark and that needs to be integrated to be transformed unto light. Your reaction is your lesson. If something "disturbs" us in anyway, it is a call for inner-reflection.

Alien Consciousness is a topic I will cover in my new course. A bit. It's hard to talk about.

I think I witnessed one about a month ago (?) I'v seen something that clearly wasn't a star but also not an airplane, it was dark and it moved very fast diagonally. I felt a very odd feeling about it and my mind tried to rationalize it and said:"I'm sure that if I'll google it I'll find some scientific explanation to it". But I did nothing and forgot about it a minute later, I hope it were creatures from other planets though. I really want to meet cool creatures, see them in my eyes. I have a secret wish to meet something odd like an alien everytime I'm outside at nights. I have a sense of both curiosity and fear regarding them but the curiosity stronger than the fear for me. But maybe it's immposible for the average human to experince them in the simple physical way and it requires some paranormal abilities to be able to see them and communicate with them. Maybe average people get glimpses of them in weird ways like seeing UFO randomly when their minds are relaxed or on a specific frequency on a specific brain wave or on a specific state of consciousness.

@Loveeee Your Next Move Can Be: Moving People Upward on Spiral Dynamics Model. Being a Polymath (Inventor, Artist, Writer, Engineer, Speaker, DJ). Teaching. Creating New Domains of Knowledge. Breaking Human-Spirituality Into Pieces and Teaching Alien-Spirituality. (I'm open to that, I don't know if it's true or not.)

It's extremely difficult to understand leo. I thought the same than flyboy said many times. He shows little patience with others, he has very little empathy, he repeats that he is the only awake person in the world, which makes many think he is crazy, he says incomprehensible things like that he wants to transform into a alien in front of the cameras, he is intimidating when he interacts with others, he likes to go to clubs to pick up girls, all that. but the reality is that leo has discovered the true awakening. Leo understands reality better than anyone. Sounds extremely stupid, but Leo is more awakened than Buda and Ramana maharshi ?. It's true, not a joke. That being said, don't believe Leo, but he can serve as inspiration and guidance.

+1:30 I had eaten three grams of golden teachers at the park. As soon as they began to kick in, I discovered that I had left a little note for myself at the pavilion. A note that would have tripped out a sober minded person: "Everything is part of it." Suffice to say, I knew it was going to be a good day. Shrooms always leave me feeling truly alive, with a deeply rooted peace of mind. Weed is about to turn that right around. I head down the hill to the banks and start meditating by the edge of the river. There's a tree hanging out by the water. It starts snickering at me and cautions me against smoking cannabis. I take the hit anyway. +2:00 The real trip begins. Anxiety starts to creep in, but the trees start guiding me, whispering, reminding me to "Breathe." They talk by flexing their branches ever so slightly so that when the wind blows, they whisper. "You breathe so much hope into this world!" They always say that. I am so greatful for their grounding and guidance. The trees too, are grateful for my prescence, precisely because they absorb and learn from our higher states of consciousness, not to mention they also depend on all the CO2 we exhale just as we breathe their oxygen. +2:15 I'm overcome with an angelic presence. Dozens of child-sized humanoid beings begin to surround me playfully, greeting me. They're translucent and shimmering an iridescent blue color. I'm with many fourth density beings, all speaking with voices both young and wise. I could see the tentacle-like bonds connecting their bodies, and gradually they began to coalesce into one large, machine-like alien forms. They spoke so sincerely, so clearly, "We are here, we see you, we are with you. We have been watching you work. You breathe so much hope into this world. You are love. You are light. We have prayed so much for you to be here. You have so much to teach the beings of this world." The light in me sees the light in you. The light in me sees the light in you. +2:30 They began to take human form again and started showing me the proper mediative posture for this working. I did my best to follow their lead. They guide me through a global healing session. I envisioned those I loved and began praying. I envisioned everyone in the country being filled with hope and well being. Down the wind echoed the change I had inspired. I heard families, parents, children, siblings, friends and lovers, randomly telling each other "I love you!" and "I'm hope!" I imagined wholesome memes of love and laughter being shared all across the internet. Cascading. +2:45 I Am without a doubt, part of something greater. There is a single, higher consciousness of which all beings are a part of, and I had access to the mind of every being in that forest. The wind was alive and filled me with life. The trees started shouting excitedly among themselves. The birds sang in beautiful harmony, complimenting one another, showering each other in love and affection. I began to notice that the birds were harmonizing with my intentions, and I had control over their song. Through pure will alone, I began to conduct a choir of birds. I could silence and sing birds of every type, from all over the forest. This touched me on a deep, metaphysical level, an illusion of separation had finally been lifted. Birds seem to coordinate with one another telepathically, flying and singing in perfect sync with one another. I had tapped into this frequency and was truly one with the forest. +3:15 Through my presence, the birds and trees began to absorb my higher state of consciousness and gained a deeper understanding of themselves, learning how to have self-awareness on par with a human. I invited them into third density, to reincarnate as humans so they could show this world their peaceful nature. I began to head back to the pavillion, after what felt like 10 hours of being in blissful peace and harmony with nature. As I walked up the hill, the bushes told me that they could feel what it was like to walk. "I can feel that! I can feel you walking! It feels so strange having legs!" This is how second density beings learn to inhabit third density bodies. They pick up on your higher state of consciousness and learn from you. TLDR: I conducted a choir of singing cardinals through will alone and I met a biblical angel, one soul comprised of many, many souls who were once incarnate as human on Earth. There is so much more to this world than meets the eye. You share a consciousness with every being in existence. There are many loving, caring, higher density beings are all around us, unseen, just waiting for the opportunity to guide and protect you. Animals learn self-awareness just by being around us. Forests are positively alive, overflowing with living, breathing beings.

Yes, it's so crazy. I can't imagine taking even 10g, my high was 5g and I see no reason to take more than that. Kilindi was something else, I met him once at a festival and he was different from any other human I encounterd. His presence was so solid, like standing in front of a mountain, but a mountain from another dimension, his energy was very alien. I remember when he looked into my eyes I felt totally naked. It felt like I couldn't hide anything from him, he saw through all my bullshit and penetreted the core.

Okay, let's look at that. Realization (enlightenment, etc) is about what is TRUE in direct experience, in this moment. That is like the entire game. It is a radical and uncompromising commitment to authenticity and to seeing clearly. Concepts like "nonduality" and "no-self" and "dependent origination" emerge FROM that investigation, they are not dogma going into it, and they are never considered TRUE of themselves. They are pointers to what is true, guides to deepening the investigation. Once completed, self-deception literally isn't even possible, because there is no "room" between this and that, between a self and a truth, between experience and someone to judge experience. Pure seamlessness. Your psychedelic "truth" is a joke for several reasons. It is never NOW, but always in the past, a memory, an experience, and always seen THROUGH the contractions and conditionings you retain as "you" in this moment. The memory occurs now, but it is only a simulacrum, a reconstruction. It is not IT any more than a photograph of London IS London. Your only defense against this is a ludicrous one, in which you ASSUME the so-called "truth" you got from the trip and apply it circularly (e.g. you'll say shit like: You're just God imagining that he remembered the trip"). This is epistemological BS and you know it. What is true MUST be true NOW, or it isn't fucking true. It's not about brain chemistry or no-mind or any of that crap. If it IS TRUE, it is true now/always (and not in concept! in experience!!!). All of your remembered trips is nothing more than concept, period. And I call you schizophrenic because that is the delusive state in which concept is taken to BE reality, which in your case is pretty fucking accurate. "The work" as you say leads to THIS. It is the only thing it can lead to, because it is right here and right now regardless of the content, regardless of what is perceived or thought. But see, you don't seem to understand how this actually progresses at all because you literally didn't make it out the gate. You don't understand that sensory clarity deepens, and eventually allows one to see the finest grains of experience, and you don't understand what happens when you bring equanimity to ever more subtle gradations of "selfness". You don't understand how self and resistance arise together, mutually dependent, to precipitate out of Nothing "everything", in a sense, even consciousness itself. Boundaries are just more distinctions, more resistance, and they CAN be dissolved with equanimity and surrender. The agent/doer is more resistance, the watcher or observer is more resistance, even Being God/omniscient or Being Nothing is more resistance. This isn't seen in a mystical flash, but in a microscopic AND macroscopic examination simultaneously that is clearer and clearer until even clarity gets sucked into the black hole that collapses all dualities. Being and non-being, existence and non-existence, God and nothing at all... all collapse, but not into "emptiness" (which the buddhists are not using in the way it sounds in English), but into THISNESS, which is just a way of saying there IS this dance happening, but that in it the divine and mundane are unified utterly. A piece of dog shit is as divine as the most incredible alien god-realization you could ever dream up. Literally, there is nothing "outside" of THIS because it is itself without a self. The tongue twists and fails in describing the collapse of duality, yet it can be KNOWN literally as true Unknowing (what do you think Ralston's title really means?!). But this realization is achieved only through this radical journey of acceptance and love at deep and subtle levels. Loving a criminal is a walk in the park compared to loving the subtle horrifyingly painful vibration that you feel to be you in your deepest existential being. It must be done until "done is what needed to be done." You, sir, have no ability to imagine or understand this, no matter how many trips you do. Someone being able to "talk" about the nature of God is only a disqualification, never a qualification. THIS cannot be spoken of, and disregarding that as folly IS folly. You probably won't hear any of this, being the dishonest narcissist that you are. But to anyone with whom this resonates, I sincerely encourage you to look to your heart for truth, not to Leo.

@StarStruck How did you astral project? Why can't we speak about horrors that may or may not occur? Discussions, and debates, people do discuss horrors from the past. Are you referring to the earthquake in Turkey? My guess here from your reporting, and it's my intuitive speculation, is that immense earthquake could either by from a meteor impact, an alien weapons technology, or the earth's core falling apart by a gravitational pull from a bigger celestial object.

It does. God is all powerful and all loving so obviously he would create the perfect reality. And since THIS IS IT - it means that this reality, this very moment is perfect. It is perfect for Leo to become Alien mouse and come back to being Leo. God with all of his intelligence decided that HE WANTS TO BE MATTHEW. That's how much God likes you. He literally wanted to become you even though he had all the other options at hand.

Once you reach infinity (total understanding), in a way it's game over, but also game on, you're finally playing instead of surviving. So what's your next move ? I've died multiple times and could have created myself back however I wanted to, but always came back to my old self, ultimately to learn to die naturally via yoga nidra (you still your body and mind, until all distinctions are gone, basically falling asleep consciously). This way I can master death, and life That's my next move, which I feel to be the best move So I'm quite curious about that alien consciousness Leo talks about and the fact that it seems to be his next move, I may be one death away from another plot twist

How else would an "other" be created? God has to employ trickery to create reality, otherwise there is nothing. @Leo Gura Yes, but why this very specific creation? When you experienced yourself as the alien mouse, you said nothing would bring you greater joy than to remain as that creation forever. But here you are back to being limited Leo with all your challenges. Why? Why are you you choosing this over something else and something that would bring you so much joy?

Alan Touring was an alien? ?

Heavily charged emotional states can lead to hallucinations in my experience. Your experience makes sense to me. The scariest moments of my life were when I was about 8 years old and woke up from an alien abduction dream to feel something cold touch my arm and hear a noise of movement in the room. I doubt that I was actually abducted in any objective sense, but I think the level of fear I was in while exiting the dream altered my perception and interpretation of what was going on when I was awake again in this reality.

@Devin I don't understand your mental process. Your interpretation of the video seems completely off the mark. It's clearly talking about hypergamy in one way or another. I don't get how you don't see that. You seem to view women as some sort of alien intelligence that is hyper pragmatic and opportunist, even though it's very well known that women are very emotional creatures that base most of their decisions on emotions, sometimes even if it goes against their own survival/self-interests, and despite their intellectual recognition of the consequences. I'll add that many women, like my own mother, stay in toxic relationships for noble reasons.

Once you start taking Buddhism seriously, it effectively becomes the operating system of your mind. You don't yet appreciate how limiting and dangerous that is -- if you're a serious truth-seeker. Now, if you just wanna dabble in spirituality and not think too hard, Buddhism is okay. But if you want to get to the bedrock of Consciousness, you will have to be way more intelligent then aping some Buddhists -- be they West or East. You cannot reach the highest levels of Consciousness by aping any human. You have to think completely original thoughts! You have to navigate without any map. You MUST tap into true Intelligence! Only the highest Intelligence will cut through all the illusions, constructions, and limits of your mind. You need to become so Intelligent that your mind sees through Buddhism like an x-ray. That way you can move beyond into trans-human and Alien Consciousness.

If Consciousness/Ultimate Reality is infinite, then an infinite number of universes is being imagined/plays right now in other realms/dimensions. All are being "run/managed" by certain levels of consciousness/beings/perspectives/Godminds/… that are obviously much larger than human consciousness, and can be accessed and understood (at least temporarily), since it is all one nondual reality, infinite consciousness. As Leo stated in his “Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness - 30 Awakenings In 30 Days, at 2h 2min”, there are endless dimensions of awakening into the mechanisms of these realms/intelligences/mechanism creating, governing and sustaining an infinite amount of dimensions/worlds/realms. Which, as he stated in that video, freaked him out - understandably. And as Leo also has stated concerning Cantor’s Theorem on Infinity: There are infinite subsets of infinities. Each is infinite, but some infinities are larger than others (see Cantors Set Theory on Infinities, very nicely summarized in Leos lovely video “Understanding Absolute Infinity - Part 2” on this topic, main points at 10 minutes, and see also in general Cantor’s Set Theory). That means that even if an infinity of realms are being imagined right now (and created/maintained by different beings/levels of reality/Godminds/Alien Godminds/…), Ultimate Reality will NEVER run out of realities/dimensions/Lilas to imagine, since some infinities are larger than others. Ultimate Reality can imagine an infinite cascade/hierarchy of parallel realities right now, and that doesn’t mean that all possible realities are being imagined right now. Since even if an Infinity of them run right now, there are infinitely larger Infinities still available as potential. And an infinity of them. Intuiting the infinity of infinities of realms/dimensions that Ultimate Reality/God can and does manifest is awe-inspiring. Assuming that for some people (as it was for myself) a big fundamental question is: How do you divide the time of your life between a) Exploring this Multiverse of an infinity of infinities of realms/dimensions (for example Psychonaut-style), and its mechanisms and structures, b) Realizing Sahaja-Samadhi, stable and blissfully abiding in totally nondual infinite consciousness that is your True Face, and seeing all clusters of sensations, including the own human self, running in the infinite totality of ones own nondual boundless infinite consciousness, as mere appearances and play in infinite consciousness, c) Helping others Boddhisattva-style. Maybe these ideas are helpful for some being faced with this question: · If the dimensions/realms/worlds are endless, the beings creating/sustaining/understanding these run upward to infinity (which means nothing else that one can never understand it all). And even if one did, there is an infinity of infinities still remaining to be manifested/imagined by Ultimate Reality. · a certain amount of exploring is for sure helpful, until one grasps that there is an infinity of dimensions, and an infinity of possible understandings on these dimensions, an infinity their manifestation mechanism, and so on. And an infinitely larger infinity of all of these still as potential “in the pipeline” of Absolute Reality. And maybe go exploring some of these. · and then realizing that as long one is not fully realized in Sahaj Samadhi, being able to constantly watch the separate self arising in the boundless nondual sea of ones own being, one does and will suffer: Not having the impersonal enlightenment of being constantly able to see all clusters of sensations of the separate self arise in the infinite boundless consciousness space that one is, one will suffer. (bodily suffering is of course always possible, but its not translated to psychological suffering via a separate self cluster of sensation arising). · Contemplate about the possibility that Ultimate Reality is extremely/infinitely intelligent, and would easily be able to block this full realization/Enlightenment and resting in Sahaj Samadhi if you have not fully and honestly taken the Boddhisattva-vow. And it tends to do just that (not as a perfect mechanism, but tendency-wise), as a safety-mechanism, to avoid too many exploitative cults with half-enlightened Gurus. How to make peace with an Infinite Ultimate Reality, manifesting itself right now in infinite worlds? Not a large number of realms and worlds, but an infinite one? And on top, even if one would understand this infinity of realms being manifested right now, that there would be an infinitely larger infinity of realms still possible, see Cantor’s Theorem above. So if you would have permanent access to your true nature, rest stable in Sahaj Samadhi, knowing the substance of all possible dimensions is your true being, would you grasp on trying to understand all this infinity of an infinity of realms and dimensions and their mechanisms/patterns, that even Ultimate Reality can continue exploring infinitely forever and never reach an end? Would you choose grasping/suffering for this ultimate complete understanding, which can never be fully had, or the happiness of enlightenment? Well, you couldn’t choose grasping. There wouldn’t be a you left that you take serious, just clusters of sensations of the remnants of the separate self that arise in you. And if these would have the choice between grasping/suffering and blissfully relaxing themselves into the infinite love of your true being, they wouldn’t choose grasping/suffering. They couldn’t choose grasping/suffering. The grasping/suffering of trying to understand all of the mechanisms/structures/patterns/… of an infinity of infinities of dimensions. Which is exactly what can be oberserved with the Enlightened Ones that rest in Sahaja Samadhi and their True Nature. Being interested in exploring some of these dimensions for sure, but not with a higher priority than resting in their True Nature, or Sahaj Samadhi. There is an archetype of a realized being, that deeply resonates in humanity. Its hallmark is its absolute happiness. Which is the same as its love. Some believe that archetype is in place for seekers to find their ways. How do you spot real, full and stable Enlightenment? Daniel Brown once said: Only in the conduct with which one lives ones life. Which is then based on love, and happiness. Maybe these thoughts resonate with some, and are helpful for some faced with the question on how to invest the time of your life, which is nothing else than one of the most fundamental questions: Where do you place your ultimate spiritual concern.

Maybe this explains why Gura wants to be an Alien God.