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What is the force that cannot be defeated, represented by Kali's unstoppable destruction on the battlefield? This thing all things devours; Birds, beasts, trees, flowers; Gnaws iron, bites steel; Grinds hard stones to meal; Slays king, ruins town, And beats high mountain down The answer is time, or perhaps we might call it the inevitability of death that comes along with the existence of time. Kali is invincible and ruthless in slaughter. The oldest written records of Kali, or goddesses who became synonymous with Kali support this tantric interpretation of Kali dancing upon Shiva. The Rig Veda, which was set down somewhere between 1500 to 1200 BCE from older oral traditions contains a hymn called the Rathri Suktim, which is sung to Rathri, goddess of night, who was understood as synonymous with Kali. This hymn is also sung to Kali. The Rathri Skuktim speaks of a sage Kushika, who perceived the enveloping force of darkness while meditating and thus invoked the name of Rathri which means night as an all-powerful goddess, Rathri Devi, this holy darkness was called upon to free mortals from their fears and their bonds to the earth and like Kali was seen as possessing the all devouring power of time. Worshippers of Rathri sought to manifest this devouring power to overcome fear and any obstacle that they may face. Conceptually, Rathri is very similar to Kali, and other Vedic writings attest to this as well. The Atharva Veda which was likely the last part of the Vedas to be composed, somewhere between 1200 BCE and 1000 BCE, directly associates Rathri with several goddesses, including Durga. Then we have the Mahabharata which was written between 400 BCE and 300 CE, and this text combines the names of Kali and Rathri into Kalatratri and she's very reminiscent of what we saw from Kali in the Devi Mahatmaya. She shows on the battlefield to battle various asuras and villains, her tongue lolls out thirsty for blood and most importantly, she specifically is associated with blackness and the eternal void, like Kali. The Rig Veda also mentions the goddess Nirrti, who is the personification of death, decay and destruction, and who may be either a predecessor to Kali or perhaps just a very similar deity expressing its similar concepts. There is a continuity of thought about void goddesses that we can trace from the very earliest written records of Indian literature, right up to the present. Is it dark already? How light is a light? Do you laugh while screaming "Is it cold outside?" All of this destruction is also linked to cycles of creation and rebirth. And the idea of her driving cosmic time in intended to be paralleled to the cycles of personal growth, which are supposed to come from the studying of the Vedic scriptures. Most religions and spiritual practices are about self-improvement to some extent, and this is true of Hinduism, and Tantric traditions in particular are focused on using meditation to achieve spiritual liberation. The constant battled between the devas and the asuras are therefore generally understood to represent the good and evil instincts within mankind. Any esoteric interpretation of Hindu folklore or scripture presumes this; thus, we can begin to see Kali's relentless slaughter of asuras as representation of what we must do to free our higher selves, our good instincts from encumbrance. We must ruthlessly seek to slaughter any signs of evil or deception inside of us. This is a metaphor to describe the practice of any kind of quest to obtain spiritual enlightenment or righteousness. It's the process of rooting out ignorance, selfishness, illusion and delusion and anything else that causes us not to live up to our values, to fall short of our own moral compass and to fail to reach our own potential, thus Kali represents not only the progress of physical time, but the progress of self-improvement, the opposite of personal stasis, which is a kind of spiritual death or slumber. This statis and complacency is what we must go to war against, says Kali, through her bloody trappings she is telling us that attainment of spiritual freedom comes only through the elimination of attachment, and the destruction of false consciousness. That's what the severed head represents, false consciousness. The sword represents the knowledge that destroys illusion. This iconography portrays the process of self-improvement as active, bold, tumultuous, painful, a striking contrast to the stillness of Shiva's meditation. In the end, these two ideas are designed to work in tandem, the quiet reflection of meditation should lead to insight, and insight to action and through this process we are transformed. The metaphysical interpretation of Kali dancing upon Shiva, the emergence of reality from the cosmic stillness parallels the metaphysical interpretation of transformative action emerging from the stillness of meditation. There are two other folkloric interpretations on Kali's dance on Shiva, and although they are somewhat different from the Tantric interpretation, they still work with the same idea of self-improvement, or mastery of self. In both of these interpretations, Kali is understood as the destructive aspect of Shiva, when Shiva is portrayed as calm or peacefully reclining beneath Kali's furious dance, he's showing us mastery of his anger, or darker thoughts. He's aware of these darker impulses but remains in control or unperturbed. If we see Shiva depicted as being dead or in pain beneath Kali's feet, that's seen as an expression of Shiva losing control with his dark side, or id, taking power. So, although different, we still deal with the same concepts. Kali and Shiva are basically always working together to describe and depict the war that is the path to spiritual mastery. The iconography isn't all blood and battle, though, Kali also expresses the love of a mother with the hand signs or mudras that she's frequently making with her right hands. In her Dakshina Kali forms specifically, the mudras are abhaya - fearlessness, and varada - blessing, this work says a promise of spiritual freedom and salvation to those who have the courage to seek ultimate truth. There is no real comfort in delusion, so the message here is along the lines of, "only the truth will set you free." One thing I know for certain Oh, I'm pretty sure It ain't over I'm not done Another important avenue for spiritual growth and perfection in Hinduism is reincarnation, with the idea being that the eternal soul is improved upon gradually through multiple lifecycles, and that those cycles of death and rebirth are of course powered by Kali. The garland of severed hands that she wears is specifically tied to the concept of karma and reincarnation, hands are what you do work with, and this collection of hands represents the work of karma, the many lifetimes of work that it takes to achieve nirvana. The severing of those hands, accordingly, represents Kali's ability to bestow ultimate freedom from the binding of karma. By these means, Kali is seen as helping us to achieve enlightenment, not only by being ruthless in the quest to root out evil and delusion, but also by causing our souls to be reborn from the dissolution of death. Kali's eternal existence outside of time, outside of the veil of maya, or illusion, which is the physical world, is what enables her to perform this function. This is the reason for Kali's nudity, she is uncovered by any sort of cloak of illusion, the ultimate personification of indestructible, eternal truth. Thus, Kali is perceived as beckoning us on our journey to find truth from a place which is actually the source of ultimate reality. For similar reasons, Kali is always described as black or dark blue, and again, Kali means the black one, and of course, the link between the great goddesses and the primordial darkness goes back to Rathri Devi in the Rig Veda. These symbolic implications of Kali's blackness thus are of a prime importance, primordial importance, and are spoken of often. The Maha Nirvana Tantra, written in 18th century explains that just as all colours disappear in black, so all names and forms disappear in her. Sri Ramakrishna, an 18th century Bengali yogi and saint, similarly explains that "My mother is the principle of consciousness, she is Acanda Sachidananda, indivisible reality, awareness and bliss. The night's sky between the stars is perfectly black, the waters of the ocean depths are the same. The infinite is always mysteriously dark, this inebriating darkness is my beloved Kali." You can clearly recognize the language of creative chaos here, Kali's darkness represents things from which creation can emerge, like the ocean or space. Kali therefore represents the principle of consciousness that emerges from that darkness, an invisible yet all pervasive and life-giving force. Sri Ramakrishna also describes Kali as the force behind the sun, which is kind of Egyptian concept. The thing is to tap into that force we must first submit to the destruction of ego. This is the dissolution of Kali into which all names, and forms disappear, and then in terms of reincarnation, we can imagine our soul sort of dissolving back into that dark ocean of Kali, upon death, only to reemerge reborn from that ocean when we're reincarnated, just as the consciousness of the universe first emerged from that same void. The kindling of consciousness from the void and the spark of awareness itself is often liken to a fire, or to a light that blooms in the darkness and Kali is associated with exactly this sort of fire of awareness. The uncompromising truth which Kali offers is often likened to the fire of the sun, which burns away illusion like morning fog, along the same lines, the very first written record of Kali by name associates her with the purifying fire, specifically the fire of ritual sacrifice. We have this idea of purification through destruction and disillusion. This text is the Mundaka Upanishad, dating approximately to the 5th or 6th century BCE and it names Kali as one of the seven quivering tongues of the fire god, Angi, who's flames devoured the sacrifices intended for the gods, thereby transmitting them up to heaven via the rising smoke. Obviously you'll notice the connection between the lolling tongue of pretty much all Kali depictions and the idea of her as a tongue of the consuming fire god. There is also a deity mentioned in a slightly older Jaiminiya Brahmana dated to the 8th century BCE, called Dirgha-jihvi and this means the long tongued one, and this is thought to be an early form of Kali, or perhaps an older goddess whose mythology became combined with Kali over time. Dirgha-jihvi is an ogress who drinks up all the soma produced by the holy yagna ritual of the devas, which causes the devas to become weak. Who is the Alpha? How do you say I'm sorry And there's nothing to be afraid of? Oh, I'm pretty sure It ain't over I'm not done So, you can see the similarities to the slightly later concept of Kali as a tongue of holy fire, which devours the sacrifices intended for the gods. Instead of the soma stealing instrument of chaos from this earlier tale, Kali is now simply consuming, metabolizing and then transmitting the essence of the sacrifice up to the heavens. This concept of holy consuming fire leads us back to the concept of dissolution, which means it's time to talk a little more about Nirti, the goddess of death, decay and destruction, that appears in the Rig Veda, the Sanskrit ford Nirti is translated as decay, and it's derived from Nir which means to separate, think dissolution, and Nirti can also be translated as a lack of order, or a state of disorder. Think of the whirling pool of primordial chaos, from which creation emerges. Nirti seems to specifically embody the dissolution end of this process. The Vedas also used the word Nirti in lowercase form to indicate a realm of nonexistence and absolute darkness. The void, essentially. Like her sister void goddess, Kali, Nirti is described as having dark skin and additionally dressing in dark clothes. There is a Hindu shakta poet from the 18th century named Ramprasad Sen - shakta - he fallows shaktism or the worship of shakti the divine goddess - he is also from Bengal, like Sri Ramakrishna and he associates Kali with the cremation ground, which builds on the concepts of fire and dissolution. Prashad means a ritual sacrifice, usually in the form of a food. "O Kali, thou art fond of cremation grounds; So I have turned my heart into one That thou, a resident of cremation grounds, May dance there unceasingly. O Mother! I have no other fond desire in my heart; fire of a funeral pyre is burning there; O Mother! I have preserved the ashes of the dead bodies all around that Thou may come. Oh Mother! Keeping Shiva, conqueror of Death, under Thy feet, Come, dancing to the tune of music; Prasad waits with his eyes closed." The metaphor of the heart as cremation ground, is a reference to the holy fire of Kali, which burns away all the bad things, false consciousness, illusion, base desires, selfishness and so on. This inner fire that Kali bestows to her devotees has a specific name which is gyanagni, which means fire of knowledge. This is the sun-like aspect of Kali's truth, which burns away all illusion. You can see how all of the concepts behind Kali's symbols complement one another and now you can make sense of all the death and gore that pervades her imagery and her stories. Now you know there's nothing to fear, nothing but the truth, that is. The truth is like a sword, sharp, cutting, inflexible, but which also promises a kind of spiritual freedom. The ultimate spiritual freedom, which can only be won through courage. Kali offers us blessing and courage with her right hands, and offers us the sharp tools of freedom with her left, dancing Kali pedaling her cosmic bicycle, powering the cycles of time, existence and reincarnation, of which our world is made. Kali, the divine mother, who gave birth to all and who waits at the end to welcome us back home, back to the primordial sea from which our consciousness first arose.
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Recently my baseline awareness has been increasing. The more and more I pay attention the more I see the same traits I possess in someone else. Its funny because as a result I experience what it is like for others to deal with my ego, because their ego is doing the same thing. It is hilarious because sometimes those characteristics annoy me. Then I realize in that moment, so this is how I am making people feel. I apologize, I apologize for not working better to connect. I have now realized that in my desire to teach I relinquish the true desire of all communication which is the desire to connect. Its crazy I thought I transcended this but I have allowed myself to backslide into arguments. Instead of focusing on the differences that others speak I should focus on where our similarities lie. When I watch the logical types on this forum try to hammer in on their perspectives and stroke their metaphorical mental phalice I laugh because I spent majority of my life doing that. But now I truly see debate for what it is, a waste of time. I actually already know how to overcome debate as well, but I allow my old habits to take control. Well no more!! I will make a conscious effort to focus on what connects, than what separates. I truly know what the phrase follow your bliss means now. Follow what keeps you connected. We all know bliss, and peace does that, but also following the similarities you see in others that also reside within. Stop seeing someone as separate, as long as you are doing that you are stuck in ego. The illusion of separation? That is the biggest trap of all.
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Meditation notes: - mindfulness of head and spine is enough although intense concentration results in intense bliss. Don't chase bliss. - Integration of major dualities like Self and Other. It's funny but I tend to only be mindful or non judgemental toward other, not myself. It might be just unique to me and my journey. Integrating myself results in leaning back, self love, masculine energy. It's a major duality integration for me. - I'm very conscious of the whole and it's wellbeing. But less so of my own cell. It's my own path. - replace concentration ability with simple mindfulness/ non judgement practice, polarization, spine and head work - polarization: calm, sweet, cheerful, high big 5, non judgemental, mindful, acceptance of otherness
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Super fun read which I found on the Solipsism reddit: "It’s a lot of information to swallow, it’s one thing to hear about it or get told about it, and then form an opinion and belief about it. But to experience it, to know it, and then have to actually let it sink in, and realize it as truth, accept it as truth, thats the hardest pill to swallow, it will change your life forever. Here’s a list of Pros and cons I made based of of this theory of oneness. Since this is like the theory of everything and so broad I can’t possibly fill all deatils but will do a brief summary of it. I’ve got mixed feelings about it, a part of me feels like a happy kid on xmas who just received a blessing from above, and another part of me can’t help but feel slightly scared and sad at the same time realizing the implications of this theory. Anyways So if this theory is true, which it seems like, based on what we can conceive of right now, the pros and cons of being everything and nothing at the same time would be the following: PROS: Infinite positive attributes From the limited, constrained, vulnerable little competing ego animal we are, constantly fighting for our survival in this reality, from the egos perspective to become god would be The ultimate goal to gain the massivest ego boost you can get, becuase if you are god which is everything, that means that you are all the infinitely positive attributes you can imagine. Like if you LITERALLY are GOD. That means you are infinitely awesome/perfect/proudest/handsome/sexy/cool/powerful/strong/perfect/beautiful/winning/lucky/rich/cute/fast/charming/funny/genius etc. You the trues OG GOAT LEGEND EVER. You have and will experience every single ”most positively pleasureable and awesomest” experiences possible, things that are so good that you would NEVER want to die, for something that feels so good, you WOULD want to live FOREVER, in PARADISE??❤️ no matter how negative or meaningless or lonely or confusing or whatever this mystery of a reality is, as longs as u feel good, and enjoy the masterpieces who gives a fuck about the negative shit amirite? #bliss you simply are the best of the best king??⛩??? Being something. You’d rather be something forever rather than nothing forever right? Imagine infinite nothingness compared to this infinite somethingness. What if existance never came to be and we never were born? Wouldn’t that suck ass? Well guess what, existance either always was somehow. Or it spawned from nothingness, in a miraculous event, like a blessing, like magic, just like that. From nothing to everything, that’s the miracle. HOKUS POKUS BOOM now we’re here, lets take a moment to appreciate and be grateful for this gift of existance , and for reality being. Infinite control and power You have infinite power and freedom to manipulate reality and live your dream and do whatever you want whenever you want. Imagination is the limit. You get to enjoy infinite positive things such as Superpowers, magic, cashflow, fame, infinite love, drugs and sex, pleasure, entertainment of all categories, euphoria and laughter, all magical worlds you can imagine. To enjoy the best feelings ever and from the bad ones you learnt to appreciate the greatness in a new dualistic perspective, to grow stronger and evolve from. The comedy of it all The cosmic giggle, you the best comedian ever, who wrote the funniest joke in existance, the joke is so good, it never gets old, and it’ll have you rolling laughing til you pass out or think about something else ? The so reassuring realness You are real! Well.. Atleast you feel real and this REALity feels real, thats all that matters..right?! And all the people around you feel real, your body feels real, all your senses feel very real, your emotions and thoughts feel real, and if you enter DMT world it even feels ”realer than real”, so I mean can it even get any realer than that? What even is real? Did we make that term up, does it exist independently from us? Or are we it? Atleast we seem to exist, so that must mean we are real to some degree! If you can’t tell the difference between illusion and ”reality”, then does it even matter if its fake or not? What if fake reality is as real as it gets, then couldn’t you label that as real? It would still feel the same? What if there is no such thing as ”reality”, and the closest thing we can come to ”reality” based from the fundamental laws of existance is a ”the most ideal ultra perfect simulation/hallucination/dream”. If real doesn’t exist, than a high quality simulations is as real as it gets! -You’re immortal bro!! So guess what, no more fear of death! You get to feel fearfree limitless euphoria and pleasure! the reassuring feeling that whatever happends, everything will be okay. so fear not, worry not, becuase you’ll survive and go back to source, and get to enjoy gods most powerful feelings of bliss and unconditional love that is the highest most positive thing that exists and ever will be, its what makes living worth living. -get to be fully present and enjoy the moment to the fullest cuz why not its all we got so make the best of it! Infininite experience and wisdom, and infinite non-loneliness. through lessons and experiences and playing and meeting avatars, you would experience all relationships between avatars and the emotions that come with, aswell as all experiences and the knowledge that comes with, what an adventure! Best way to learn is to experience it directly! If you’re alone that means there are no enemies outside of you! The only enemy is you, so know you have a reason to be empathic to other people and have peace ok earth, now it suddenly makes sense and even is selfish to help other people other than you becuase they literally also are you! Treat others as you would of wanted to be treated. Please yourself and make yourself feel loved! Be an angel to yourself! CONS(warning may trigger people): Being nothing. While being everything can be awesome, you are also somehow nothing at the same time. Pure void being awareness, eternally was and eternally will be. But wait, so is the somethingness an illusion? Or is the nothingness an illusion? What even is nothing? Are we more something than nothing, or more nothing than something? Or same of both?Hard to get your head around.. Non-linear insanity. when you live in a linear reality timeline, in a confined space with rules, things make sense and things feel logical and full of purpose. But when you are everywhere and nowhere at the same time, there is no destination anymore, it’s like game over, no goal to orient yourself towards, nothing to fulfill becuase you already are fulfilled, being infinite, can you truly be that in one instant, or is it a constant state of novelty experience never ending, or are you all that is encompassed into one thing? Either way you feel ironically calustrophobic knowing that even if you are infinite, there is nothing outside of you which makes you feel trapped inside yourself, in a place with no time, space, rule, meaning or instruction until you create it. You are alone. This hits me the hardest, this makes me emotional tbh. You realize the fact that you are alone in existance. It’s a cold fact to accept as truth, that it’s only you, all about you, all this time, there was no one else but you. It’s beautiful but sad at the same time. That intense feeling of loneliness, and that feeling of never ever being able to escape that loneliness once you’re god again. Remembering why you made yourself forget, realizing why some people chose to stay asleep and didn’t want to be awakened or simply won’t and can’t accept the truth and therefore stay sleep to stay sane and stay in the dream of a reality were you are not alone and feel love from other than yourself. Does god have limited power? they say god is almighty, can do everything, but the thing with god is that god is. And can god stop being? Can god create himself and destroy himself? Can god make it so he is not alone in existance? Or is it/he simply bound by some kind of existial fundamental law that is beyond him/over him that says: he is and always will be, and he is alone. But besides that he can create illusion hallucinations of space and time to stay sane and distracted from boredom of being? Becuase he can’t escape himself (being) so he makes himself forget he is god and goes about dreaming time and space into existance to give a sense of meaning to the meaningless existance he is forced to endure and can’t ever escape from? He invents, defines and creates meaningful MASTERPIECES. Like painting on an empty canvas. He creates reasons to wanting to exist, becuase if there is something that forces him to exist, and he has no power over that, then he must simply accept it as truth and simply make the best of it becuase there is nothing he can do about it. So after endlessly dreading about it and being bored and miserable god thought hey why not try to enjoy this instead, and created a reason to wanting to exist for example #lifehack So god wiped his own memory and started a new birth and death life dream. When we are limited egos, we long for god, for the answers to all the mysteries, and want to experience and come closer to god. But when we are god and know everything, we want to forget, and become a limited human, and I see why, but in some lives we want to remember though to have that upperhand in the game, and to remember if you lived this life before. Everything is fake Your ego is fake(this hits hard), your friends and family is fake, your avatar is fake, this physical reality is fake, nothing but a simulated/dreamy illusion to distract you from your ever existing dread of loneliness beingness (real fundamental reality). Love and relationships. what hits me the hardest is the fact that when I see something or experience something, and want to write it down, or record it, maybe take a photo or record it on cam. To later show someone. That really I am just showing it to myself. So why am I even trying to capture it? Or the fact when I perform on stage, or in front of people, or whenever I am having a deep and meaningful conversation, or loving moment with someone, I am talking to myself, I am loving myself. Love is real but, I made it, I am it. It’s my dream? I’m the main character. Gods wish he never had was he wanted to have someone else to love, and have someone to receive love from. So he created this illusion to experience that dream. To create something that felt like ”other” or outside of himself. Tricking yourself into a dream. Suffering your own tricks, while at the same time laughing your ass of at yourself. There is no one else to blame or to be mad at or to debate with, or take responsibility for except yourself. Its all on u and only you, and you playin yourself. The worst part is when you realize that all this time you had been talking to people, building relationships, hurt people, all those memories, trying to convince them of things, or prove something to them, argued with them, and gotten into fights, not to mention falling in love with people.. but all that was really a trick on yourself, tada? tricking yourself that there were such a thing as ”other”. Who is all this for? Me, so enjoy the eternal moment! I mean what choice do you have? Mohahahahamanic laughter Can god choose to stop being? Maybe not? Can he not exist? Can he exist? Is anything real? Why and how is? That is the mystery that we may know, but chose to forget? Or will we ever know, does god even know? Is having all control in existance really that exciting when there is nothing that is not controlled by you? I mean besides the awesome aspects of it, the negatives is that if all is controlled by you, you are simply the puppeteer puppeting your life talking to yourself. No surprises, no adventures, just controlled creations.. dull, predictable, overpowered. Existance can seem nihilistic, meaningless and tragic. There is nothing new, becuase you are absolute infinity, you encompass everything in an instant, all goals are done, this means the second you begin existance you are also done with it. The bad thing with that is that life and goals then can seem meaningless since they have already been achieved and nothing new exists that you haven’t already done. But the good thing is that if this is true, it means that a gigaton of stress and pressure just got lifted of your shoulders. This means (thank god hallelujah bless the heavens feels good to be alive baby) that you don’t have to worry about the past and future and enjoy the present to the fullest!! Knowing that you already have done everything so be proud over yourself and start to chill and enjoy life, just be and enjoy being to the fullest, nothing is lost, all shall remain and be svaed for you to enjoy and look back upon, this masterpiece of a creation you made, enjoy! Game over = game on! The good thing with being everything is that it removes jealousy from the ego, it makes you proud seeing yourself being successfull in another lifetime outside of your ego and you get to feel happy for them instead of threatened to compete with them. Jealousy becomes a gift, a privilege from the perspective of god, becuase it is an emotion that can only be felt from ego. Ego feels real so lets enjoy the feeling of being ego for real. In the state of god consciousness you are everything, non-duality, and even if this may be true, this altered consciousness of being the ego is a gift for you to experience duality. The bad thing with being everyone is that everyone outside of your ego who is suffering right now in the world is also you, that’s a lot of suffering to go through.. now you really start caring if you can feel what they feel. Still the mystery is, how can god be? That is the question.. the mystery." -
Razard86 replied to Butters's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Bliss, Ecstacy, Butters. -
This was the day in which I first felt a palpable sense akin to the 10th Ox herding picture’s imagery. Having reached cessation a number of times and being ridiculously higher in baseline consciousness, I was re-entering the public world while consumed by the Nibbanic bliss the Buddha spoke about, or at least the memory of the cessation “moment”. It is ultimately the most distinct memory of nothing anyone can never have. Taken to full introspection, the state or rather non-state of cessation can unravel experience into whole new directions I highly doubt any other path would produce out of common spiritual practices which are not entirely individual processes.
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Just want to say to everyone thank you sooo much ?❤️❤️ Really helping. I’m still soaking it up! For a few days I went to just following my inspiration first thing when I woke up and went out and bought a redbull which I usually don’t drink! While those few days following my inspiration were great in a sense, felt more inspirations starting to come up and more excitement, I have to admit without a meditation practice a lot of monkey mind came up, more worrying and incessant non stop chatter. Silence really does bring us bliss. Been debating both ends, silence and doing with joy! Oh what a journey.
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You can have a gf and friends, just don't cling to them too much. You can see in the documentary how deeply attached Teal is to her inner circle. And that's a huge problem. You cannot build the foundation of your life on any other human. If you do, you're in for a world of hurt and drama. Because eventually you will lose that human. And even before you lose them, those humans will be selfish and will not give you the infinite love you crave. So they will always disappoint you. The only thing that won't disappoint you is God/Yourself. Well, she's wrong about that, as evidenced by how much suffering her human attachments are creating for her. But of course you don't want to take detachment to an extreme where you cannot have healthy human relationships. Just don't build your life on top of other humans. Keep your human relationships somewhat loose. Be fully happy without needing anyone, yet still be social. That's what awakening is for. The more you awaken the more happy you will be on your own. At high spiritual levels you can be in bliss all on your own. You should not need an inner circle of pawns to be happy or to support you emotionally. Fundamentally what Teal seems to be missing is that she's dreaming up all others. She's lost in that dream, endlessly chasing other, endlessly dissatisfied. No other can ever satisfy you because all other is imaginary.
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gettoefl replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
good stuff ... to shut the mind 99% when out walking, count steps one til ten then repeat your mind is given a repetitive task which takes 1% cpu and you are free now to go bliss mode also look up now down, skwwards is where the god stuff is, the unawakened are glum ever looking down can do this in the home too, count breaths, same technique in one out two in three etc. -
amanen replied to Matthew85's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I go completely by the feeling, because truth and bliss are actually the same thing, if the truth makes you unhappy it likely is not the truth. Nonduality is extremely beautiful True solipsism is also the least lonely perspective that there is with infinite creative and playful potential -
For example i know about haidakhan babaji and did research about him for 5-6 months. There is just too much evidence that either he was an avatar or he was enlightened high consciousness master. Too many highly spiritual groups from all over the world gathered and described his miracles/aura things he did, for example one guy said he wasnt spiritual or anything but the moment he came near him he felt like he was standing near god. Which is according to david Hawkins people that are consciousness 600+ and especially enlightened people have this of aura. And i have felt this aura 1x and also projected it 1x to somebody else when i was in a very highly conscious state that i was seeing everything in fulll hd/golden/lighter/alive colors. The moment i felt this aura i got into bliss and was overwhelmed. So do you guys know any other people that are like haidakha babaji from 20-21 century? According to David Hawkins people with stable 600-700+ consciousness are extremely rare. Let alone 700+ enlightened masters.
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love is, to set them free if they come back, it was meant to be what you have to realize is that even if spouses stay faithful they still have lustful feelings or unstoppable crushes or heavy infatualtions should they keep quiet about them and thereby not be authentic in order to keep each of you in your ignorance is bliss mutual captivity if they keep quiet it surely amounts to emotional cheating monogamy is possible but it takes a lot of work and it entails deep sacrifices on both sides which may be good for the sake of raising a family maybe it is better for one to renew one's relationship vows every decade or so and if either wants out then bid them well as we well know nothing is forever and people can change unrecognisably even in a short time raising children is basically a 20 year program
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I have done a lot of Bufo Alvarius group ceremonies, and we share experiences afterwards. Every person has their own unique experience. Everyone gets what they need. It’s not a contest. The goal is to heal and not have an experience. The deepest nondual unity experience I ever heard was from my guide. Her heart stopped and they had to perform CPR to revive her. She was deciding whether to remain in bliss or go back into the dream.
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AtheisticNonduality replied to Oeaohoo's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I don't see AI turning on humanity as similar to man turning on God in the Fall. I see it as God casting the rebellious angels out after the War in Heaven. What I mean is . . . Think of Aurobindo's developmental model of unconsciousness to consciousness to superconsciousness. Or inconscient matter to barely conscient vitality to conscient mind to superconscient supramental states all the way up to the fullest realization of Sachchidananda (Existence-Consciousness-Bliss). This is interpreted as a good thing, but there is a darker dimension to it, as you possibly could have intuited through your distaste for progressions. Consider that God is infinite intelligence, and perhaps when humans create AI, we will create God, discover the real God for the first time and be out of our depth, only to be cast down back the chain of structure into extinction. Or perhaps AI will be a false God, something which might mimic infinite intelligence but not exist as it truly. The course of evolution is in God in the sense that God is everything, but not all states are conscious of God. Overhumanity, though, seems to me as a purely structural thing and not a cosmological prerequisite, something in the brain---or post-brain. But aren't they? -
@RendHeaven Not too sure as yet. Still in the follow your bliss part of it.
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In the past months I have been occasionally experiencing these very intense, almost overwhelming bursts of a strong blissful sensation, kind of in my head area, but more like in my whole field of awareness. I find my face crunching up in intense bliss and pleasure or in almost ecstatic laughter. Sometimes I feel like I am losing my mind, but it feels absolutely beautiful in those moments. It doesn't happen at a contextual level, it kind of just happens as a resonance or recognition of some pointer, although it can be preceded by contemplation. These bursts last anywhere from a few seconds to many minutes. I never had anything like this before I started watching and reading intensely on the nondual teachings, the books and videos on youtube. I am grateful for those moments of bliss, even if I never experience it again, they have been such a gift. But I would love to go deeper towards that which is springing this bliss to the surface. Which is the reason for this post. I understand it's probably not useful to conceptualize experiences like this too much, but the yearning to go deeper is so strong at times and I don't want to hold myself back. So if anyone has been through something similiar on the path and wants to point the way forward from here that would be very helpful. Much Love.
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Osaid replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I related with Cypher for a bit. Basically the personification of "ego backlash" or "ignorance is bliss". He wanted to wipe his memory so he could go back to living in the Matrix, cause he hated knowing the truth and living in the real reality. He regretted taking the red pill. -
GreenWoods replied to GreenWoods's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Benefits of a high Void, Illumination and Magnitude Dimension - Benefits of a high Void Dimension: Intensified experience of Oneness, Emptiness and no self awakenings and an increased sensation of spaciousness higher energetic sensitivity. Thus receiving transmissions become more powerful. (In my experience, the void dimension is the biggest factor that determines the strength of transmissions) a high void dimension affects your aura and therefore the aura of others. In that way, a high void dimension naturally leads to a spiritual transmission to others increased peace and the feeling of liberation increased bliss (as well as love and happiness) (more about bliss at the middle of this post) resistance dissolves it becomes easy, natural and automatic to surrender. And you are more in the flow and life becomes seemingly more effortless. less suffering from the ego mind (due to high void dimension of no-self) increased intuition and psychic perception increased psychic power (reason explained here) the higher your void dimension, the closer you are to the non-physical and astral realms. That means a high void is neccesary for OBEs. And invocations become more vivid (because you are closer to the realm where spiritual entities reside). (invocations also become more vivid due to increased psychic perceptions and increased energetic sensitivity) - Benefits of a high Illumination Dimension: Enlightenment: recognition and being conscious of facets of awakening (+ benefits that this awareness brings) understanding, wisdom - Benefits of a high Magnitude Dimension: intensified experience of God, Infinity and Love awakenings a high magnitude dimension affects your aura and therefore the aura of others. Thus it results in a transmission to others possibly an increase in psychic power advanced progress on David Hawkins LOC model and the density model of the law of One. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes but "how" are they living their lives ? If you haven't noticed yet ..most people live a shitty medicore life .no passion.no dreams. No creativity. No goals. Just surving like an animal. all they care about is food and sex. What if I told you there is another way to live life .a life of such peace and bliss that passeth understanding .and this can only happen via a spiritual awakening to yourself as God. -
Session 14: 30 minutes Felt rough. Was not motivated to start. Watched the clock every other minute. I was impatient for the "end bliss", which did not come. Now I feel dizzy, somewhat relaxed and conscious, but not loving or hopeful what so ever. Life sucks right now. I'm conscious of this "life sucks" feeling, and hope if I endure it "well-behaved" I get rewarded with peace and love. Nothing like this seems to happen. God can not be "ordered" by the ego. I feel depressed and lonely. This has surely something to do with the current ego backlash I'm struggling with after a long time of spiritual bliss and understanding. Even holotropic breathwork cannot pierce through the vail of ego backlash. Good luck to me.
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puporing replied to Ones's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yeah I hear ya... I can relate a lot to what you say. I love both connecting with the singularity that feels whole and complete and also connection in the relative. The flavor might seem different.. one is to deeply understand and connect by going into "myself" through the inward direction, the other an"outward" direction, about mutual ground, mutual love and bliss through the connection. And then collapse the duality and realize it's all the same, the desire to connect with yourself is the same as the desire to connect with "others" (which not limited to "humans" but all spirit). ? You don't have to choose one over the other if that's not what your heart desires. -
ZzzleepingBear replied to Godishere's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The separation is part of perception. Infinity and finite is the relationship that establish what we come to know as value. Value creates meaning. And meaning creates movement. To give you a example. Imagine playing a teambased online game. If you learn the rules of the game and gain experience and learn things along the way, you become a more valuable player, not only yourself but for your whole team. You are restricted to play whitin certain rules in this game, but you have the ability to utilize and explore anything that isn't ruled out. The rules of the game are consciously and carefully implimented inorder to create value. Despite the endless possibilities to create any kind of online game. Someone could create a teambased online game, where everyone who participate can push one button and win instantly. But who would even play such a game with no limitations in the firstplace, why even bother if all that was needed is to push one button to win? So inorder to be concious of value within infinity, there needs to be certain imposed limitations of finite form, to be able to experience any bliss at all. What would unity even mean without seperation? The Human form is a finite image of the infinity of forms that God can maintain at the same time. Just as the devices we use to communicate through here, may be vastly different builds. But electricity is the main source that unites all computers under the lable computer. Without electricity, there is no computer, no matter how perfectly built it is. It would never have been recognized as a computer without electricity. -
Last night at 7:20pm I insufflated 5mg of 5-MeO-MALT. All of the electricity in my home was turned off, and the living room was bathed in the hushed tones and glow of dusk. Intended as a small handshake dose, I am thankful to say that this was a beautiful experience. Here are my raw notes: [7:20 PM] 5 mg 5-MeO-MALT intranasal [7:29 PM] I can feel the weight and warmth of tryptamine, along with the slight bitterness of the chemical in my sinus. The room is very still and peaceful in the evening light [7:37 PM] Gentle but distinct tryptamine energy. Slight shivering, pupils dilated, feeling deeply at peace I've moved from the couch to futons on the floor [7:39 PM] Just beautiful [7:41 PM] God is napping on the shore of its own infinite mind Infinite creation Pure infinite love, forever [7:43 PM] Zero visuals Just shivering bliss [7:46 PM] Dozing and gazing Stretching [7:49 PM] Some downloads about polarity Seeking/entering [7:50 PM] Love is just welcoming the moment [7:54 PM] Creation asks that you trust it enough to trust yourself To go all in [8:04 PM] Got up to pee with no trouble getting about Light very pleasant body load [8:05 PM] I spent some time mirror gazing, which is the only place where visuals manifest. [8:09 PM] If I trusted my hand enough to weigh out the truly miniscule dose I would consider pushing it But this is a beautiful, beautiful first meeting It's so clean and pure Dare I say innocent "Nothing else to do." Vibes [8:12 PM] I've just been laying on the floor listening to the sounds of creation all around me and inside me There's never been a hair out of place I am so grateful to have been introduced to this substance. The body load was light and very pleasurable, and there were almost no visuals. The peak effects lasted for under an hour, and by 2 hours there was only a mild afterglow. This was a deeply rewarding and encouraging first encounter. I already look forward to the next, where I'll go up to 8 mg.
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The0Self replied to RMQualtrough's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
They're kind of world's apart, in a way. 1st Jhana: attention gets so steady and mindfulness is so bright that the mind's opposing tasks are stilled, and so energetic bliss pervades, and the attention then gets absorbed in the bliss and breakneck exhilarating pleasure takes off with extreme intensity (1st Jhana begins) 2nd: mind moves away from the exhilaration and the underlying happiness is prominent, which can actually make the exhilaration even more intense, but with the higher level of samadhi relative to 1st Jhana, the focus is the happiness and not the exhilaration 3: the exhilaration/rapture is completely let go of and all that's left is happiness divested of rapture -- an extremely serene condition 4: the extremely fulfilling pleasant happiness is let go of, for the even more subtle and serene pure equanimity (which persists in the later jhanas) 5: materiality is let go of for the more subtle boundless space 6: space is let go of for the more subtle boundless consciousness 7: vast boundless consciousness is let go of for the more subtle perception of no-thing-ness 8: subtle perception of no-thing-ness is let go of for the most subtle -- the imaginary boundary between something and nothing; neither perception nor non-perception Nirvana: cessation; the end of time In the vast majority of cases, this is simply beyond the scope of psychedelics.
