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axiom replied to Jowblob's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Jowblob could be vaccine related? -
axiom replied to Loveeee's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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I'm still here actually
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axiom replied to LSD-Rumi's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
"Seeing" the black void in a room where no light enters - for example a cave deep underground - is exactly the same as blindness. In both circumstances no light enters the eye. So yes, a blind person does not "see" black. But then neither do you. -
axiom replied to Arthogaan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes, good observation. “getting caught up in activity of mind” (or not) is not a decision one makes. - Notice that I am not complaining about anything here - “the whole point of consciousness…” There is no point to consciousness. As far as Leo being this way or that way… such things don’t concern me. -
axiom replied to Arthogaan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I promise you, there is no awakening. There is getting wrapped up in activity of mind or not getting wrapped up in activity of mind. -
That sounds like something that needs work.
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axiom replied to Arthogaan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes it is just activity of mind. Take a look around the forum. Don’t you think all this supposed awakening and spirituality looks and smells like petty human shit? For most who open the door to spirituality, it ultimately mutates into strongly-held identity. In the end it is just another attachment. It is not important to be spiritual. All of this can be transcended. Honestly, look at the petty human BS here and see it for what it is. The lesson is staring you in the face. -
axiom replied to Arthogaan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes, nothing here is a big deal. If people think it’s a big deal then they should probably develop a few other interests and get their lives in order. Spiritual seeking truly is the most pointless endeavour. At some point it can be seen it for what it is : just activity of mind. In the meantime it amplifies neuroses. Leo is a very entertaining character with grandiose notions of Godhood. It happens. Whatever he may lack, he more than makes up for with his cartoon-villain appearance and persona. -
The barrier is understanding.
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What you describe is something easily “understood”, and does not require an arrogant teacher to explain. It can be directly encountered on 5MEO and other psychedelic substances at sufficiently high doses. It can also be encountered via meditation, breathwork, near death experiences. It is easy to have that peak experience. As far as understanding it… well, understanding is just the poor and misguided cousin of being. Once you get into “understanding” you are back in mind, back in ego, back in the dream of assigning meaning, purpose and value to that which is completely beyond it. And in so doing it is obscured, seen only through a veil. “Understanding” the sun is absurd. The sun is perfectly complete already without any understanding required. To suggest that following a series of esoteric tasks or teachings is somehow essential to grasp the true meaning of the sun, and that “no one else understands the sun like I do!” is completely ridiculous… and yet this more or less describes the whole spiritual endeavour. Infinity is infinity and the sun is the sun. Bask in its glow. Leo’s teachings are entertaining but ultimately useless. All such teachings are useless.
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@Breakingthewall Exactly. There is no grain of sand. There is no Leo.
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Arrogance and huge ego are not necessary for this. They will only get you so far, and usually will involve some degree of misery, explicit or not. As far as deciphering the essence of reality… yes, the illusion of such is possible. It never actually happens though. A grain of sand does not decipher the beach.
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axiom replied to Jowblob's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ok, now you know from personal experience that you can be injured and that your body ages and decays. Project the cumulative effect of this forwards. Year 1. A few injuries, a few minor illnesses, no death Year 30. A few serious injuries, a couple of nasty illnesses, no death Year 70. Many serious Injuries, ongoing constant moderate pain, many severe illnesses, no death Year 1000. Countless serious injuries, many broken bones, a couple of lost limbs, body riddled with painful disease that makes existence constant agony, everyone you have ever loved or had the slightest meaningful connection with is dead. Making further connections is impossible as you have locked-in syndrome… still no death. -
axiom replied to DualityHurts's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Very good.