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Castaneda and his student Lawton call that the dark sea of awareness. Let me see what Lawton says: Not really. It's [solipsism's] a totally mistaken view of reality, based on thinking you have a real physical body. By the time you can see the emanations, you realize it's all OUTSIDE us. Not at all inside us. In fact, your goal once there might be to stop trying to remember things, and to accept that you have all of the dark sea of awareness to use as your "memory". And brain also. You KNOW that's true, when you "see" something that you couldn't have known, but yet there it is right in front of you. You NEVER stored that in any "brain". And then you verify, it is in fact true what you saw. It's possible that ALL we actually consist of, is precisely what the Eagle tries to extract from us, on death. Tendencies in our awareness. Learned by living. The Eagle doesn't remove it. Just download it. But the fright of being downloaded causes us to disperse too far, into the dark sea, since we no longer have a luminous shell to contain our awareness. And we spread too thin to be sentient anymore. --------------- And the Castaneda book The Active Side of Infinity talks about death. Lawton doesn't believe in Hindu-style reincarnation, just that most people just die once the infinite ocean collects their awareness, but sorcerers can preserve their awareness because they've become experienced with other emanational systems and how things work while they're alive.

Then sadhguru, who has super powers, is omniscient, can predict the future 10 years, can eat mercury, can stop breathing, never shows it. If you ask him to show he will say: eh, I'm not a showman. Is it a joke? Are we retarded? He's just a scammer, a liar. His yoga is good? Ah wonderful, but yoga is just yoga, nothing with know reincarnations. Or any of you knew any reincarnation doing yoga?

This obviously contradicts what Leo says. He claims that if you are murdered you stay in a dark limbo state after death for 1000+ years, same with suicide or any accidental death? Apparently the only safe why to die to assure a "rebirth" and not hell is to die in your sleep. Why does he say this? How would he know?

Has it crossed your mind that you're falling into illusion by saying it's just fantasies and delusions? I would say it's Absolutely True that you don't really understand it, since the logic and intuition in it is a lot different from yours. It has abstract logic in it that necessarily applies to nonhuman reality. It's not just human imagination. It's not just interesting delusions and fantasies that may or may not be true somehow, they actually literally logically have to be true. Conversations With God you liked better. According to Tom Campbell it was written by the same entity that wrote Seth Speaks. And Tom is claiming that that's literally, actually, factually just true. And that it's a logical necessity for reincarnation to exist, for other reality frames to interact with this one, and so on. https://www.my-big-toe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6956&hilit=Conversations+With+God#p6956 Tom Campbell shows the paranormal is literally just real. It's not that God's creation is just the physical universe and a mind disconnected from the universe, God's creation is a lot bigger and more interconnected even at the relative level.

What @PurpleTree says is that this idea about cycles or reincarnation that ends when you achieve "enlightenment" maybe is just a mistake and reality doesn't works like that. @Ishanga why do you believe that? Maybe you achieve moksha and then are more cycles, or maybe reincarnation is a misunderstanding and never happened. Have those ideas without really knowing them seems a hindrance

something obviously disturbing about sadhguru is that according to him all indian traditions, without exception, have a real and legitimate basis. ayurvedic medicine, funeral rites, theories about reincarnation, etc. but only indian traditions. that is, bleeding the sick with leeches or going on a pilgrimage to mecca no, but doing certain indian rites according to him makes it easier for your relative to move on to a phase of existence after death, better, whatever, but only indian ones, no sacrificing children by ripping out their hearts to make it rain, no, eating mercury yes, bury alive one year yes, go to the paradise with the Virgins no. Baptism to avoid the hell no, but yoga to go to nirvana yes. Shit, they are better than the others! What about the untouchables? Could they go to nirvana? Edit: he's against the castes and believe in the unity of india as a nation independent of religion. His project seems more political than mystic. It's legit, it's not intently bad trying to improve a nation . He's very difficult to understand because he's theoretically a mystic but over all a politician. Both could be together, why not?

Sure it works, any yoga works. I mean if when he's talking about mashamadi, reincarnation, cosmos, he's liying. Just that. Could you see the point? Brain wash. Putting a invented cosmos in your mind that now you accept as real and it is a mockery. Just the possibility

If everything is god's dream, time really doesn't really exist since god can dream the past, future, and everything else, and I( as god) I'm everything and everyone. All this makes me believe that reincarnation stuff really doesn't make sense.

The ego traverses the the gamut of forms. For example, blade-of-grass consciousness > tree consciousness > fish consciousness > reptile consciousness > human consciousness > superhuman consciousness > trans-human consciousness > God-consciousness. The ego thinks the answer to its own immortality lies in the direction of increasingly complex and convoluted distractions from the truth, which is that it isn't real, and never was. It will keep up this charade until it is entirely dissolved. Right now, you are identifying with your human body. Or perhaps, if you consider yourself "awakened to God consciousness", you are identifying with a different form. All such identification is an egoic effort to survive and to hide. To combat self-entropy, the ego builds ever-more sophisticated puzzle structures around itself. It is all a game of survival. Given a lifeline to prolong itself in a new form, it will grab it with both hands, day after day, "lifetime" after "lifetime". Many romanticise the idea of reincarnation, and think it is something desirable. Reincarnation is simply the ongoing attachment to form(s), which is the cause of all suffering.

A lot of mystics much more wise than us talk about reincarnation, that this life is a path to equalize your energies, your mind and your heart to ascend to other dimension, that there is a serious work to do here. Maybe they are right, maybe no, but seems that there are something real in that line of though

@LordFall Imagine there was one man that existed he sat down and meditated and he saw himself as a source of energy that just exists. He explores this source of energy sees it can take forms like imagination. Then the man wants to find the where he was as the only man on earth that existed because that was his first, but then realizes that the state he was in as the only man that existed was just one of these infinite possibilities of being and its actually just an energy source that has always existed and is everything. What does reincarnation mean in that scenario? Literally nothing.

Reincarnation is irrelevant when you understand God.

Yeah honestly I think this whole section of the human lore is worth consideration and Leo should make a huge video on it if he has interest. Project Stargate involved a lot of metaphysical investigations like remote viewing and yeah I remember reading something about reincarnation in there. A lot of these accounts are starting to gain credibility and are publicly broadcasted on platforms like Shawn Ryan's My current understanding is that literally the CIA came to the conclusion that physical reality is a meme and we're consciousness and they gave up on the experiments. Perhaps that's not true at all though and hilariously enough they are doing their own radical experiments of consciousness. I don't know what to think about this so I generally don't think about it and worry about material concerns like making money and my dating life but it is a big plot hole.

It was a Neil Degrasse Tyson TV show where he said we share the DNA of flowers, plants, ants, insects, trees and such in our own DNA, that is physical proof that something is going on, we were something before we were this human being we are now, so reincarnation as they state it in Hinduism and yoga makes logical sense to me, which means the law of Karma, Cause and Effect, Residual results of Actions taken affect our daily lives, and Free Will is quite correct conceptually. the question is how did they know this a few thousand years ago? They knew it because they knew the mechanics of Life, how it started and how it will end, the complete story because we are micro Universes, everything is connected, we are not separate from it, on Body/Mind level we are, that is the beauty of this creation, of being Human, we have Individuality and Oneness/Completeness with Everything at the sametime, no other life has this ability to Experience and/or Choice to invoke within themselves!

@Breakingthewall @Someone here I think the key here shouldn't be whether reeincarnation exists or not but whether in what ways our life is a replication of someone else's acts Because clearly, in a way, reality is reincarnating. Yesterday more than 300.000 babies were born. There is the proof, that Reality is recycling itself. Without new babies, without new life happening, even if reincarnation exist you would not have a body to reincarnate into. I see interesting in observing the following: When you are having sex with a woman what is that you are doing? In a way, You are doing an act based on a memory imprint on the system, on a certain volition, this imprint tells you, feel attraction towards that woman, and not towards a dog. So the process of creation comes with a certain software, so it can replicate itself. Because the creation wants to survive, so it makes you horny, so you can have sex and reality can keep replicating. So there is something clear: We don´t exactly know if you had past lifes or if you will have future lives, but is clear there are certain acts in reality that allow reality to keep replicating itself. So even if this is your last life for you, you are collaborating with the software that makes the replication possible. Whether it will be you or not, we don´t know it. But some parts of Reality will have to give life to those 300.000 babies bodies.

My 5 cents: No matter what solution/concept we discuss here re reincarnation - it's still a story. Some people apparently said some things about reality, and suddenly it's a thing. Green lamas are gonna rule the universe. I found an old scroll where Jesus talks about it, Sadhguru was there too they both agree and [enter random Name here] believes the same So why do we even assume there is a "constant thing" like reincarnation that defines reality? If reality is one thing, then it's constant change, isn't it? So maybe reincarnation was a thing once, no it is no more? Maybe it will come back like the 80s Maybe everyone lives out his/her own reality: You get reincarnated, I don't. Coin flip, nothing else. Why do we assume that there are fixed rules governing all of us the same? Yeah, humans are similar, we all breath, eat, sleep etc but we all also create our own subjective reality and if we are one thing, then we are different, right? So many people talk like they know sth. I say nobody knows anything. I say nobody knows shit.

I've shared the 5 Sheaths Theory before here on the Forum, I think it explains it well and detailed as to what reincarnates and such... What dissolves at physical death is the Earth Body and the Mind Body (Intellect, Discretion, Personal Memories and such), what goes on is the Energy Body, Etheric Body, Bliss Body (I am not sure what the Bliss Body is, is it a covering for the Atman/Soul, or is it that itself??) Karma is Stored in the Energy Body, so that goes along as reincarnation is happening... Some of what Your talking about is not Karma, its Duality at play which can cause Karma to be in place and being created moment to moment I guess? Karma is cause and affect, residual memory imprints from previous actions in 4 places as a Human Being, Body, Mind, Emotion and Energy, action in these 4 areas are happening on a moment to moment basis, how Aware are You/WE of these actions all the time?? Probably its at a nil level, so therefore most ppl are living by accident, not on purpose or with Consciousness of What they are, and What it means to be Human...But the situation is set up to be perfect almost, Nature if left alone is almost Perfect, the way our planet revolves around the Sun for as long as it is and will be, its perfect, as it the rest of the Universe and Existence, but things are not so perfect on this planet in the Human World, cause we have Free Choice/Will to chose how to experience this perfect place and Universe, via Unconsciousness or Consciousness??

Reincarnation intuitively seems very possible, I feel that life is a path to learn, but that's true? Maybe all mystics had this kind of feeling and they accepted that reincarnation is a logical possibility. In other hand many said that they remember past lifes, but is that true? Maybe. I think it's a possibility quite possible

@Ishanga@Javfly33 @Hojo what exactly the thing that reincarnates? The body? The soul? The self? The Self? The awareness? The ego? All? Some? What??? Because as a matter of observable fact the body decays into dust and rot alright?.. Once your physical body dies it just dissolves into it's essential elements and just evaporates in nature.. Gets diffused into the soil etc. So that's that. What is it exactly that reincarnates then because obviously it's not the body? The self? There is no self "inside "the body lol !. The body is inside the" Self". There is no ghost inside the machine. What you really have is a machine inside the ghost lol. The self (ego) is a negative hole that appears as a consequence (byproduct) of entanglement of thoughts.. perceptions.. feelings etc. It's a misidentification really. It's a negative.. not an existing entity onto itself. So there is no self to reincarnate. IMO reincarnation is no different from Abrahamic religion's notions of hell and heaven.. Both have ZERO evidence!. As for karma as an evidence that supports reincarnation.. Well it's simply that for each up there is a down and for each action there is a reaction. You throw up a ball in the sky.. It falls down in the opposite direction taking the exact time that it took to reach the highest peak to fall from it into the ground. That's karma. The universe is already at perfect balance. There is no need for reincarnation to achieve balance as if balance could be lost to begin with. Balance is already the case. It's inconceivable that something unbalanced could even exist! And if you look at it from a pantheistic worldview.. You are already living inside every creature in this planet.. So at the moment that you are beheading a chicken you are the chicken that's being beheaded and the human who is beheading it simultaneously. Karma is instant.

Best way I can describe what I think reincarnation is with simulation theory. Pretend that you are a computer right now you have a hard drive you have a gpu you have ram you have a power supply and you have power.The power coming into the computer is God. You are so used to the on state that you forget that you even have seperate parts working in unison to create your experience. Death would be like you noticing all your separate parts working together to form your current experience as the power slowly leaves them one at a time and then you sit there in an off state and forget you were even running a simulation. Most people dont know there is something that is them but not them flowing through them the energy of God. The creator of their simulation.(coming from the plug in the wall) Seeing this is the first part of spirituality. Now God is farming simulations. The simulations can over time remeber their off states. They become aware enough to 'see' when they are off and they will remeber that they are a simulation faster when they are turned on. This is a signal to God (the power in you coming from an unknown source like a plug in the wall) that you are gaining consciousness. We as simulation have information from our own computers that is being uploaded to the internet and we are playing a video game together as the energy of God flowing through our computers. Moksha (I think) is like the simulation saying Hey! Im not the computer im the power coming from the plug in the wall! Im going to go there when I die and merge with the fucking energy of the universe, not just sit in my off state. Or its like the computer saying hey my avatar dosent exist on a personal computer it exists within the internet and when you die you live on the internet not a personal computer simulation and never turn off. Not knowing this is sitting as an off computer until someone uses your simulation again.

@Someone here Because I can't remember any previous lives or physical deaths, I try not to believe or disbelieve anything I learn about, especially matters such as this, reincarnation, but it sounds good! I think this process comes about via Karma at play, it has to be worked out or burned up and most times it takes more than 80 yrs to do so, since ppl are creating more Karma along the way, so as they say many lifetimes are needed to play it all out... In the end its all about Absolute, this Brahma getting to experience and express itself imho, otherwise why are we and all this creation here?? Sadhguru says to never ask why, when You do then as story has to be told to You and via that a belief or disbelief is born which leads us further away from Experientially knowing, someday we will find out for sure:)

Reincarnation has been part of eastern Dharmic religions ( Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism,Sikhism ) as well as Taoism, and also native european belief systems such as the Orphic Greeks, Celts, native German, Slav and Norse religions for milleniums. Reincarnation is also a belief in native north American tribes such as the Inuit, Navajo, Tlingit, Haida. Gitxsan, Dene Dháa . Also african tribes such as the Igbo, Nupe and Yoruba of Nigeria, Akamba of Kenya, Akan of Ghana, Baganda of Uganda. Also in some cultural groups in the native Australians. Even in the Abrahamic traditions, reincarnation as a belief exists among the Druze, Islamic shia sects (Alawites, Ahmadi religion of peace and light. ) , Jewish Kaballah, early Christian sects of Cathars, Bologmils ( which were persecuted to extinction by the Catholic church) and modern christian sects like 'The Christian Community , 'The Order of The Cross' , Kardecism. In western psychiatry and psychology as well, the likes of Dr. Brian Weiss, Dr. Michael Newton , Dr. Ian stevenson ,Dr. Jim Tucker and others has compiled a body of research work substantiating reincarnation and showing that it may have a basis in fact.

Yes but how to go deep enough to understand what is that process that is happening and where it leads, what are the mechanics of the cosmos. There is possible to know such things, or are just fantasies? Reincarnation, etc. Some says that they remember past lifes and they know exactly why this life is happening and where this leads. Maybe it's true, maybe no. But could be true

@decentralized Get to the basics, come back to earth. Create a goal for yourself, join some free free education course or get some certifications if you can (you might even apply for some low-skill job to get some cash going), do some Physical exercise (even just cardio is great) and get some therapy if you can. Having a voice in your head telling you things, is NEVER a good thing. You have to feel like you are the one the one making the decisions. In the meanwhile i would suggest you toput aside the piritual imaginary and culture for now (Reincarnation, ego death, chakras etc). Stay away from energetic practices stuff like Kundalini and Kriya Yoga. If you do that kind stuf without a mentor it can ruin you. Don't fall into the trap of spiritualizing you problems. Very few issues are purely spiritual and most can be resolved by taking action in the world. I think you should just leave the habit of doing some do-nothing meditation like 30 min everyday and let go of everything that appears in your experience, if you get kriyas, let it do their things, accept and kidly let go off of every thoughts you find intrusive or negative. Simple Hatha Yoga can be can be good aswell. Focus on getting beck on track with life in general. Once you get the boat going you can dive deep in spirituality again.

Well if that's the case..then why make dozens of threads about cessation..mahasmadhi..non existence..ending the cycle of reincarnation etc ? If you feel happy just by existing then this is good. This a sign of enlightenment. But i don't believe you're "there "yet . I've followed your posts over the years ...you improved..but you still believe the true nature is nothingness and not both nothingness and everythingness ..which oddly enough you seem to contradict once again with this post. So what's the deal jav?