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Maybe the donkey's soul has not evolved enough to live a human life. The reincarnation model described in this video is very interesting and talks about this. Considering that many enlightened masters remember past lives being monks, shaman, sages... Saying that spiritual genetics is about karma is not that far fetched. Do you really think that a very unconscious individual in one life, like Trump level unconscious, will just win the spiritual genetics lottery in his next life and become a new Sadhguru ? That's absurd.

Hi @Simhall it seems reincarnation is true after all No hard feelings, I understand some folks here are going through an unstable time. Best wishes whatever you decide I really hope it works out well for you.

It makes sense if you consider that the "person" is an energetic pattern. all people are ultimately the same, but as a particular person they are a very complex and unique energy pattern. that pattern evolves, just as a body evolves. reincarnation would be to believe that when the body dies, the energetic pattern that constitutes the person has continuity. its basic lines, constituted in all previous lives, start again for more evolution. It is not that you are going to live more lives, since there is no you. only consciousness is, and it has no memory, it only is. but the pattern, which is nothing more than an empty structure, restructures consciousness once more

Not doing what you believe is right. For instance, for many, their ideal is (their idea of) Jesus Christ. There aren't necessarily good and evil people; just beings playing out the results of their conditioning, in a complicated web of interactions in which plenty of "unfairness" will take place. Life itself. And there is karmic debt, in a sense. What you do has consequences. In a sense, you could say life is the inevitable result of limitlessness. There isn't necessarily reincarnation, but rebirth might happen because the alternative is nothing, which is limitless, which means anything can happen, including life as you observe it now.

@The0Self Ellaborate what do you mean by dont live up to your ideal. Why do then bad things happen to good people? And evil people always thrives ? If there is no karmic debt then whats the point of life? If there is no right or wrong as leo states in his videos then whats the point of reincarnation? whats there to learn?

@Nahm You are very helpful here on the forum and you probably know that already. @Kalo Yeah, maybr my awareness hasn't reached understanding of God yet. @snowyowl Haha, you should have said that to me a few years ago! Honestly, after a plenty of spiritual experiences i do not see any desire to self actualize or do self-help. These experiences (soul, reincarnation, karma, astral body etc.) don't even matter maybe? How high on the SD should one be to want to know GOD and not care about theses types of experiences? Is this like stage Green spirituality and stage Turquoise spirituality. Fortunately, i am not declining to go self-actualize. As i viewed my experiences through the lens of how to gain money from it. Like fantasizing of becoming a teacher and aquire my survival needs through it. Might be in the red/orange mindset area. Would be nice to view it as it is like a Love-Oneness perspective. Is God a precursor to counsciousness? Then how do we know God?

Although we are one, there are individual souls that get reincarnated again and again to learn new lessons according the samsara wheel. Shouldnt "breaking the reincarnation cycle" the ultimate purpose of spirituality?

Bias and guesswork. The fact is nobody knows what is was actually like to live 2000 years ago anywhere (barring reincarnation and remembering it which I wouldn't rule out completely). That is exactly true. What does constructive mean anyway? That's the problem with words full stop. Every word is defined in terms of every other word. It's one big relative network. No word is pinned to anything absolute, not even the word absolute. I'm fairly ambivalent about anything covertly filmed in the street and touted as entertainment. These are real people often being deceived and filmed without consent. If it's a street magician, then perhaps, the intent is transparent. I'm just not so sure about it. If entertainment is the goal then there are better ways to be entertained. I suppose it's just my personal preference.

Me first lol.. Just a quick message for Truth seekers..... This path is about Truth. If what you have is not the truth.. It's important to let it go. Why hold on to that which is ultimately not true? In order to do that.. you have to investigate honestly your ideas. Truth is not a belief.. Idea.. Concept.. Ideology etc. Truth is simply that which is found and /or alingned with direct experience. I see a lot of bullshit on this forum.. People talking about stuff they have no experience of whatsoever (past lives.. Reincarnation.. miracles of Jesus etc) ...and it makes me wonder what's the reason for falling for bullshit?? Why are we not immune to nonsense?? It's important to learn epistemology. How do you know something? And is certain knowledge of the world even possible? Are good questions to contemplate. Yes it is possible to have certain knowledge. And you will find no certain source of certain knowledge other than direct experience. Please ground your work in direct experience and stop repeating stuff you heard 'others ' talk about. Peace

That's what i do on my freetime! Nirvana here we go! The reason i can assume Matthew is in Nirvana is by this website https://www.matthewbooks.com/. Matthew here is the reincarnation of the biblical Matthew. He reincarnated a last time to create a telepatic connection with his mother and then left into Nirvana and remained connected with her while she is still on earth. Thus Matthew channels messages from Nirvana to his mother on what he observes earths geopolitical situation from there. I read his channeling on this blog: https://goldenageofgaia.com/

@Enlightenment I can imagine that if the form is immortal, and there's something wrong in it, then because it can't die, it stays forever with that damage. That's brutal. At least with a one life, or with after lifes and reincarnation, that death realises the consciousness in that thing to move on. Staying stuck forever in a form, to me is the worst of all things that could happen.

@Origins I'm not sure we can create awareness. On one AI YouTube supposedly an Enlightened One implied that consciousness might incarnate into an AI. Right now I tend to lean toward reincarnation. I'm not sure we ever return back into nothingness. We'll probably always have some kind of vehicle (body) to natigate our reality.

If you destroy something and you get something else in place, there are people who think they are Jesus Christ reincarnation, that demons are real and so forth, if you destroy mind , time , well you cant destroy it, you can only change what you perceive, anyway , if you destroy these things there will be no birth and no time for you, technically they are gone nowhere , this information is still somewhere there, you have people who get stuck in non -dual states for life time. And it is really no different from you being stuck on thinking what you are right now.

No. From the absolute perspective, there is no future. Death is a concept and doesn't exist. From the relative perspective, the illusion will continue after death. Probably in some astral realms and or reincarnation. Death will be like falling asleep and then waking again. The illusion only stops with mahasamadhi.

I always thought of reincarnation in a less literal sense, like as in you (god) are reincarnated infinitely living all possible lives. But I never took it as a linear timeline of birth and death, or where you get reincarnated based on how moral you were.

Reincarnation: Is it real? No Cause you and all else ain't real Tadaa

My opinion: nothing will happen, the pattern that you are shaping the nothing will simply dissolve. as you say, me, the neighbor and my dog will still be alive, but they are the same as you, simple (or complicated, better) forms out of nothingness. if you do deep you realize that who you really are is nothingness, and that nothingness is. everything will remain the same without you, because when you die your form will disappear. do not worry because I will continue to exist, I am you. Regarding reincarnation, I think that perhaps there is some continuity of the pattern that you have been, an evolution. but what we call identity is an empty pattern. it's the substance of nothingness that fills it

Appreciating the kind words everyone, thanks. ?? We’re probably more on the same page than you’re thinking. Nonduality means not two, so imagine reincarnation in the sense you describe, that which people attest to, just, not two.

You're reading a lot into what I said. I don't deny the possibility of there being continuities of body and mind across different lifetimes, but this doesn't change the fact that you're not that body or mind. The fact that there is a memory of a body from yesterday or 1000 years ago doesn't change the fact that you're not that body. Why does this matter you may ask? Well, because the person who goes to reincarnation as a belief (or even from direct experience) in order to soothe their fear of non-existence/impermanence (by believing that some essence of their identity will be carried on in order to reassure oneself of one's finite existence) will necessarily be disappointed. The fear of death has to be faced at the end of every incarnation anyway, because after all, it's the attachment to "this" body and mind that is causing the fear, and it's those things that are going to disappear forever. If you weren't afraid to lose those things, then you wouldn't need the reassurance of a finite eternal essence in the first place. Impermanence is a matter of fact. You cannot escape it, even if you were to reincarnate an infinite amount of times. If impermanence (non-existence of finite things) doesn't become obvious at the end of your lifetime, there is no difference between infinity and impermanence anyway. Anything finite will at the end of the day have to disappear: the only thing you're guaranteed is an infinite eternal essence; no self.

What does reincarnation even mean when there is no such thing as a "you"? There is no "you" that reincarnates

Why does he say that there is no reincarnation? I think it is because he is focused on the perspective of formlessness/awareness, where it alone is the ultimate truth, and from that perspective he has built his belief system. This type of spiritual teaching is powerful and has helped a lot of people evolve, but it can also be seen as limiting because it invalidates a lot of powerful truths and teachings that could also benefit someone. It's a beautiful web you are spinning, but I will not get stuck in it We can understand and integrate the essence of your teachings without copying your beliefs. Will you create videos with energy/shaktipat? That would be interesting!

On Eckhart Tolle. It’s possible that there is something to reincarnation and that it takes several lifetimes to become enlightened. You don’t know what path Eckhart walked to get where he arrived. Also, effort does not necessarily get you anywhere. There is a Zen story, a young man visited a Zen master and asked him, if I become a monk how long will it take me to become enlightened? Ten years, replied the Zen master. And if I really work hard at it? Twenty years. I’ve heard the proces of enlightenment being compared to relaxing a fist that has been held tightly clenched for so long that it refuses to open on its own. It’s not about effort, it is about achieving a natural state of quiet, ease, understanding and relaxed surrender. And then you wait... it’s not you who does this, there is a grace associated with it.

I mean Leo explained death as the ultimate spiritual death where you explode into infinity. but what about reincarnation? why didn't Leo talk about that? is not what will happen in most case scenarios? or did I just not watch the whole video? I am not sure actually. Connor offers some nice explanation for reincarnation in the images below.

Yeah, have even watch my physical body on another occasion. There were some individuals that caused this. Leaving the body felt like the lightest thing i could do in the universe. I could see and hear as if all senses became one. My functioning went from 60-70 procentile to 100. I saw my body. It was completely impersonal. A small rock on the asfalt was more personal to me than that body. It also emanated a greyish and somewhat darker energy than the surroundings. Like they say "low vibration" in the spiritual community or something like that. It is part of the path to experience it this way. Much easier to dissidentify from the body and harder to convince oneself again when you have seen that you are not it but have one. Had a satori moment before this happened. Spent a huge time training the WILL after that and penetrated the ego with the WILL until it shattered. Then i penetrated the solidified pain in the solar plexus and in the neck. Integrated the energetic pain from there so to allow the kundalini rise from the hearth into the brain in order to become its ruler. Had this energy rised into the middle between the brows last summer. A whole new sunny field of appreciation opened up in my perception. All possible perspectives became one. I looked at a house with appreciation as i was the man that painted it. I appreciated the curvature of the road as if i was an architect that planned it. I felt the appreciation to go home to meet a wife as if i was in 1960. Looked at the sea and everything was very vibrant and i was everyting and everyone that could be imagined. This lasted for an hour until the energy went lowered back into the head. I think these experiences are just a byproduct of this process. Had many more of them. Seems to be much easier having it. A dimension I forgot to mention that not only the kundalini is causing the particle release but there is something extremely fast that rotates subtly around my body that is also the case for this release process. As i understand these particles are called Skandhas . When we die these particles are left in the earthly atmosphere while the individual is resting in devachan. They act as karmic agents and bring back the individual into a reincarnation cycle. They attach gradually to the new body and build up the present personality of the individual throughout its life. The more i consume these particles the less of a chanse i would come back into earths physical atmosphere again. That is atleast in my theory and i am not sure how close to reality it is. As i have nothing to do here anymore and hopefully most lessons are learned already.

Suicide is selfish, therefore you can only die and go to Unity as opposed to reincarnation when you least expect it.