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I don't have any , and I don't need any. You were the one who tried to use reincarnation as a reason for this question: Why would anyone be afraid of death, if according to you, non-existence is objectively better than existence? You need to find a different answer other than the assumption of reincarnation.

I don't believe in reincarnation. There are no arguments against it as such, but there is a complete lack of evidence for it, and there is also ( at least to my knowledge )no well-known hypothesis about the mechanism by which it could happen. It would require some kind of soul that would know to travel from a dead body into the body of a fetus or a newborn. Such a thing has never been observed and also seems to defy the laws of physics (e.g. the laws of everything we have ever observed). Reincarnation is basically just an untestable claim. You can make your own untestable claims over lunch. For it to be taken seriously as a fact of reality, some kind of evidence or at least a detailed description of its workings must be presented. But if you happen to reincarnate ..then that's bad news .and throws a wrench In this whole antinatalism pipe dream.

If reincarnation works like an assembly line where souls choose an available body, then your contribution as a single anti-natalist doesn't matter at all. You would have to stop all people from giving birth.

I don't know about the word miracle, but I have personal experience with multiple different phenomena defying normal laws, logic, physics, and functioning of our reality. However I wouldn't take any of it on belief, I guess the only way for one to be truly convinced is to experience some themselves. Eastern spirituality has the concept of siddhis (also riddhis and iddhis), and if you want to see some examples of them, the book "The Autobiography of a Yogi" details multiple different ones, I think at least bi-location, teleportation, materialization, living without eating, some more unique ones, and so on. However the problem with eastern spirituality when it comes to something esoteric like this is that they are riddled with things like karma, reincarnation, and other limiting beliefs. This kind of phenomena can arise naturally in a higher state of consciousness.

Best Arguments Against Death Penalty It saves money to keep prisoners alive. It allows us to exonerate wrongfully convicted. It is better to let a guilty man go than take away an innocents freedom. But most of all, life in prison is more torture for the prisoner. Death is an easy way out that we will all do. Why not let the prisoner sit by themselves with their own messed up mind for 40 years. Give them the feeling of having their freedom taken the same way they took away they took away the freedoms of the people they killed. Why not throw in a little torture every now and then as well. You cannot torture someone when they are dead. ? The downsides of death penalty are that it costs money, innocent can die, and the prisoner gets a fast free ticket to God (A.K.A death) for the crimes they committed, which means that they never experience the feeling of pain for living with themselves for the crimes they committed. If reincarnation is true and if death is an illusion (as Leo states), then the death penalty is bullshit because you are just letting them continue their sins into the next life without suffering them fully in this one. Edit: After all, what is the death penalty if there is no death?

Death Is not something my ego wants to be real .its an objective fact . I think It is passing from one world to the other. I have a lot of proof it exists . It also has NOTHING to do with religion or scary beliefs. Religion is man made and trying to get people to fear God is also man made to control them . Noone knows or can know because we cease to be living. Do you believe we have a spirit or a soul, or do you believe that we just die and that's it? There is no right or wrong here. My personal belief is that we are Spiritual Beings just moving around in this “earth suit” if you will. Only the body dies. A spirit or soul cannot die. I do not believe in a Supreme Being that would cast us into a hell or judge as good enough to get into heaven. Judgement is for humans. A truly Supreme Being would be ABOVE any human concepts such as Judgement. I believe in Reincarnation. Atheists and Christians alike disagree with me on this. And that's ok!! I don't ask anyone to believe as I do. You are welcome to of course but it's not going to hurt my feelings if you don't. Only you can decide what you believe, what makes the most sense to you, and you don't have to explain yourself to anyone. To me. Reincarnation makes more sense than a perfect deity being imperfect enough to use judgement. It also makes more sense to me that instead of having a spirit that we are perfectly divine spirits. Many think this way. Others reject it. With the violence, hatred, animosity we have in the world, it doesn't make sense. Buf if everyone were to believe this, and truly live like this, all that violence, animosity, and hatred would dissipate. It's how I choose to live. Others do as well. Many won't. And that's ok!!

I am very sorry to hear that, Jake. As a practicing doctor, accompanying patients on their "last" journey is part of my daily business. The dying process itself is not scary, so don't worry. In fact, more often than not, there is a certain peacefullnes about it. Don't hesitate to alleviate certain discomforts or pains through adequate pharmaceuticals. Take care of unfinished business - personal and worldly. Have deep & meaningful conversations with your loved ones before you go. Maybe even take psychodelics if this is what you want. The psychological aspect is the most challenging part by far - but what I can surmise from your post is that you seem like a very centered young guy who made peace with his destiny. Well done, brother! Now, what will happen to "you" afterwards? You will hear a lot of noise and opinions from everyone and their mom, especially here on this forum. I would advice you to ignore them all, including my take. Even if someone would draw up the exact, accurate truth about dying & becoming - how would you know? See the issue? Embrace the mystery to it's fullest and go into it with as much conciousness & courage as possible. It's going to happen in it's own way anyway, no matter what "we" think. That said: You can find solace in the fact that conciousness or "experience" won't end. I think that's clear. It's also factual that God=Love - so it doesn't really matter what the process involves, you will be fine. This is very important - YOU will be fine. Reincarnation seems to be part of this game. So is a sort of between-life experience. If you collect as much data as possible, so everything from reincarnation-studies, near-death experiences, OBEs, psychodelic insights and what have you.. then a picture of some sort of cosmic game with a certain telos emerges from it. It's remarkebly consistent throughout history and between reports. I think this is the closest we can get if we dont want to overly rely on "our own experiences", which is limited. But please, as I mentioned, take this with a grain of salt.

This is actually incorrect. "Bodies die all the time" is your dream. No body has ever died -- you are imagining they did. But this requires a level of consciousness which few of you here comprehend. If you are deeply conscious enough, there literally is no such thing as death. Will this help you at the human level? No. Not at your level of consciousness. You are stuck in a dream, and your dream involves the death and suffering of bodies. But actually none of this has absolute reality. It is an elaborate illusion which you call life. And your mind clings to it. Have you never died in your dreams? What happens? Death is a dream. The reason this doesn't help you is because you're dreaming and terrified of the dream ending. All this may should theoretical, but actually it is the opposite. Death is theoretical. If you were conscious enough nothing could kill you. But you are not conscious enough, so you will die, cause that is your dream. Realizing this is the whole point of spirituality. But it requires levels of consciousness which almost no one is capable of. From the POV of your current state of consciousness, you will die. But only from that limited POV. As much as it might pain you to hear this, but terminal illness is still a dream. You cannot escape the fact that you're dream just by dreaming up something horrible. The most horrible shit in the world is still nothing but a dream. In fact, this is where you find salvation. Notice that what I'm saying is actually very positive: death isn't real. And what materialism and the ego says is very negative: death is real. And yet people get upset when told the positive news that death isn't real. The reason this twisted reaction occurs is because the mind is so attached to dreaming that it would rather die a real death than admit that everything is a dream. It has to be that way because this is how your mind constructs reality. If you didn't honestly, fully believe that death is real, you could not have reality as you know it. Once you realize death is an illusion, all of reality falls apart and nothing at all matters. And this is what you're really terrified of, perhaps even more than death itself. You are terrified of losing the construction we call material reality. The highest levels of awakening are so conscious that you are too conscious for even reincarnation because even that is realized to be a dream. At the highest levels of consciousness there is no past or future. There is only Absolute Now, which never ends. But this is not something your mind can comprehend or imagine unless you directly experience it. An integral part of what it means to be human is to be incapable of letting go of the imagination of your death. If you stopped imagining your death, you would stop being human and you would become immortal. But you are not conscious enough to do this through your will power. Hence you are stuck inside the human dream and you will remain stuck until some day you break out of it. This breakout will either happen via awakening or what you call death. Yes, all this feels like a slap in the face to your mind because your mind needs to believe that suffering is real. Telling the mind that all suffering is just a dream, does not please the mind at all. Even though this is the greatest news. The mind is in the business of dreaming, not Truth. The quickest way to piss someone off is to invalidate all their suffering by telling them it's imaginary. That being pissed off reaction is the defense mechanism against Truth. Truth is much more radical than people expect, so they are not capable of accepting it. This is the very core of how selfishness works. The finite self cannot accept itself as an illusion.

They opened my mind to something being off because I couldn't understand at the time how someone could believe they were in the wrong body. My only logical explanation at the time was that reincarnation had to be real for it to make sense. That maybe that person was too attached to a previous life and couldn't adjust to the body of their current life. This led me to looking into the nature of reality and suspending my prior belief structures. Without them I would not have discovered spirituality and still believed in a physical reality.

Yeah I dont think @Leo Gura still has this same views as this video . In this video he states you will infinitely experience every possible permutation and reincarnation of experience. In the last years he has moved to, just this lifetime, it’s just a specific purposeful dream you will awaken from the views in the video you posted would posit god and consciousness randomly permutating and reincarnating through every possible possibility without any sort of choice or discernment

This is an excellent question. Dont' let any anthropologized conception of "dreaming" dictate what is or isn't possible. The notion of dreams inside dreams has been one of the most consistent metaphysical axiom in many of our renownded mystical traditions and teachings. There are no impossibilities in the infinite dream. I think the most integral point of view is that there is SOME cosmic game going on which includes seperation to a certain point of conciousness, reincarnation, between-lifes and a general telos, Of course you can never prove this but there is preliminary data from OBE's, NDE's & reincarnation studies. If you are interested, I can recommend the book "LSD and the Mind of the Universe" to you. It's an ridicolously interesting piece of literature which goes into these question in a honest & smart way.

I'm really struggling with this idea of reincarnation. God is an infinite and intelligent dream. It can create whatever it wants out of thin air so it wouldn't be hard for him to make the exact same copy of us in the future as well. But why? And what exactly gets reincarnated? If we are all one and if the only thing different about us is our experience, what is it that gets reborn? Do you know who you are to say that you exist and can get reborn or do you only imagine to know yourself? Because if you are imagining yourself, then what is the self but an illussion? If you have any real proof on reincarnation, post it here. I would like to find out all about it, because that's a radical claim. From my point of view, individual human beings have maximum of around hundred years to live.

Hello guys, Jake here, with my first post to the forum. Basically I want to create my next life in a particular way, assuming there will be a next life, which I am fairly sure of considering the strange fact that I ended up in this life in the first place. I have a very juicy vision for life, to do spirituality, business and conscious creating in an amazing way. However I suffer from several health issues that have deteriorated my quality and ability of life. I know I will relatively soon pass on from this life. However I am seeking for a way to design my next life in the limited time from my current life that I have left. I want to make sure I won't have health issues in this next life and that I will be born in the same world, time and place as my current life for example. I am posting this to see who can help me with this. Who has experience with past life, next life, working and designing reincarnation, you get what I mean. I am open to deep occult solutions. Thank you.

God will go through infinite dreams, each of them infinitely many times. God is outside of time and will dream forever. If it only dreamed a specific dream only once, it would not be infinite. You have to realize that no matter what form is experiencing any dream at all, it is always you, because you are God. To talk about this kind of reincarnation is to wrongly identify with a temporary form you have taken, instead of your true formless nature. Though, even then, there will be an identical dream as this one dreamed infinitely many times, and it would not feel any different from it happening for the first time.

Why are the eastern ideas of reincarnation more true than western ideas of heaven and hell? Where did these ideas even come from?

Human imagination is a weak form of God imagination like human love is weak form of God level of love. If your awareness becomes infinite you can imagine whatever you want an it would instantly appear. The only reason you cannot right now is because your awareness is currently finite. So if you are seeing any visuals, experiencing any feelings that is imagination. Imagination is just hearing, seeing, touching, tasting, and feeling. As long as you have any of this you are in God's imagination. When there is no imagination there is nothing. No you, no memory, just completely nothing. But then the question would be...what is imagination made of? Answer is nothing. So Imagination and lack of Imagination are the same because its nothing. So the Ultimate Truth is God is infinite awareness, made of nothing, that is Infinitely Aware and Infinitely Intelligent, Good, Love and Wise. That's it. But reincarnation is real, if it wasn't.....what would be here? Its just reincarnation is imaginary, evolution imaginary, any thing you can think of is all imaginary. You me and everyone on this forum are all imaginary. Only God is not imaginary, but God is a formless awareness that is nothing. God literally created itself...out of nothing. God created all of existence out of nothing. The End.

All of creation is imagination. Reality= Imagination you aren't getting it. Reincarnation is just as valid right now as you typing on this screen. Distinctions are imaginary, yet your experiencing it. You really do not understand and are getting lost. Is it hot in your room? That is imagination. Is it dark in your room ? That is imaginatary. Reality is imagination. So saying reincarnation is imagining is akin to saying reincarnation is real.

You are exactly correct. Past lives and next lives are imaginary. They are just beliefs .and reincarnation is a Hindu belief but its popular in the new age community and western spiritual communities because they think every idea that comes from ancient Eastern wisdom must be correct. But that's not the case . Past and future are imaginary. Only consciousness/present/direct experience is real.

There is only one God that lives forever. The only difference between me and you is our knowledge. So in reality, you don't learn any lessons, cause you don't need to. What should be learned is learned and what shouldn't won't. The universe already decided what you will or won't learn. A tree doesn't exist in any other moment but one and it won't reincarnate as that same tree. This is like a movie that keeps going on and on forever. An animation that doesn't stop. In the past we believed in heaven and hell and now in new age communities, people don't know how to make the world appear safe and loving other than to use the idea of karma and reincarnation.

I can't possibly believe in reincarnation or heaven and hell that religions talk about so for me personally, it is the fear that not existing, not feeling anything at all even the bad feelings, not seeing anything and just not being at all after death that scares me the most. It is like I have this one life and if I can't have heaven and good karma in it, then it is very unlikely there will be anything after it.

I'm confused by this statement...everything is a dream. There is God, and then there is the dream. So you are either in a state of Absolute Consciousness as God, or you are dreaming. A dream is how God lives as a finite form. So based on this....you have always had past life experiences. So....you are contradicting yourself. When Leo said that reincarnation was part of the dream I was like....yeah of course so is this current life. The ancients say to STOP dreaming you have to realize yourself as God. But the only way to do that is to release all attachment. It all seems to fit to me. Nothing Leo has said seems to contradict any of the teachings. Even Leo's Infinity of God's realization Jesus said in the Bible and the Law of One series mentions. So its all about putting things into perspective. So since you cannot die, because you are existence itself all that happens is you stop dreaming.

Well the most common version of the Self that the majority of people subscribe to in the West is that of the Transcendental-Ego Self. Namely that a seperate 'Self' exists apart from the context you inhabit and apart from the continuity of your experiences. While this is most easily encapsulated in the idea of a Soul, this has become such a central part of our culture that a completely secularized version of this is accepted by many people. And not just in the West, the transcendental ego self is also central to metaphysical systems that believe in reincarnation (such as Hinduism). A good litmus test to see if you subscribe to this notion of a Transcendental Ego is to try and imagine being born in a completely time and place. And then contemplate if that person would be 'you', or a completely different person. The other well trod perspective is that instead of an enduring transcendental ego self, the Self has no independent ground apart from it's embodied context and the continuity of experience. This is the perspective of 'no-self' Buddhism, but has also popped up at times in the writings of certain Western philosophers (such as David Hume). For myself, the latter perspective seems more coherent.

This video ruined my life. How exactly am I meant to function knowing that I'll solipsistically experience every torture imaginable for no reason, for eternity. No intelligent being would subject it self to that. This video gives me suicidal ideations and you KNOW that you don't know for sure if you'll experience every hell fathomable. My life has no indications that I'll experience infinite torture, literally if this is true my motivation for "creating a beautiful life" is zero. What is the point? It'll just end then the reincarnation dice get rolled and I experience being in the holocaust for no other reason than 'love', that's not love that's masochism. Blood is on your hands Leo, even if you are correct, it's one of those things that should be left unsaid for the sanity of normies like me.

It depends on how you consider it. Does the dream have any purpose? It seems extremely deliberate. is the dream evolutionary? Or is the concept of evolution foreign to the consciousness of God? from our mentality it seems impossible for something to be without purpose. you can say that the purpose is to be, but it is already a purpose. be more complex? all traditions and mystics have spoken of reincarnation. continuity, evolution. It seems logical. although your idea also seems to me

@Proserpina That doesn't make any sense, shouldn't the afterlife occur regardless of what I realize or don't realize? Like if someone is totally bought into the idea of reincarnation, would it be completely blank after he/she dies? Do I even know that the afterlife exists?