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First we should answer if there even is life after death. If it is in the form of reincarnation where just some part of consciousness gets transfered into another body, then that's not good enough. I wish there was something like a judgement day or some place where the person becomes conscious and looks at every moment of every other persons life to see the truth and how they were fooled into living in falsehood. To see how it all came to be exactly as it was. But there is no such thing, is there? When someone you knoes dies, that person dies and the maybe the new incarnation is nothing like the person you knew before. Does it even matter what other people think? Yes it does to me. Not all people, but some people. You know, I'd at least hope that the truth comes out and into their awareness after death. Cause it matters to me that it does. I actually don't know if there is such a thing as a self, but the only differemce between us all might be simply our knowledge and experience. Nontheless, I feel like there are separate selves and I wish certain ones of those to live on and see the past clearly. I also want to look at the past after I die. So is it possible or not? I don't want to get reincarnated right after death in some new horrible life.
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Schizophonia replied to Paul5480's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You mean "reincarnation"? But it is a virgin and non-dual consciousness. Schizophonia will disappear? I love play this character. -
OldManCorcoran replied to at_anchor's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
In some respects the idea of reincarnation is horror story tier. You think you got away scott free, having lived an entire life working and not getting burned to death or something horrific. Only to just come back again and again and again for eternity with no escape. -
I don't like the idea of heaven or hell and here's why: Heaven is worshipping God forever which means that God is never satisfied with and that he wants to be worshipped even though he was just entitled to be God. Hell, on the other hand is just eternal suffering which is bad and separation from God just so happens to be that place. It would be more loving for God to create reincarnation or to have souls to cease to exist. Also, sin cannot be the cause for people to go to hell since other people became Christian and accepted Christ who were also sinners before becoming Christian and still are according to the Christian paradigm. Christians tried to help me understand this but the Holy Spirit didn't help me to do so while I was a Christian and after seeking God's wisdom. And I don't mean to speak badly of it, it's just a fact within the Christian paradigm. I see that people keep listening to the church as if they don't already know what they believe. It's just an affirmation that the truth does not require. I know about the crucifixion of Jesus, that God is love, etc. Not only are there other religions that I know less about, but this affirmation when it comes to defending pushes me away that the Bible is even the word of God because it never tells me how I can become directly conscious of what it says. Even if God answers my prayers, I only imagine that the Christian God is doing so if I were to be a Christian. Maybe it's something else that just so happens to agree with the Bible, it's not direct experience. The reason I post this is so that I can one day stand up for what I actually believe or don't believe in and that beliefs don't matter compared to awareness. I also want to feel listened to by someone out there.
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Me: You are a horrible God. What do you have to say for yourself? Him: I already told you, let me speak. Go find what you are seeking for and I'll do the best I can to help you and guide you to the right people. Me: I don't believe you. You are lying. I am afraid that you cannot do anything to protect me and you won't do anything actually. Cause you don't exist. You are limited to my body and you cannot control anything outside of that. You have a hard time controlling even my body. Him: What do you want me to say? I am sorry. If you don't like the world the way it is, the way I made it, you are free to leave any time you wish. Although maybe you might be prevented from leaving in the future if you stay a bit longer by people in order to make you suffer immensly. Me: Yeah, well, then it is better that I leave, isn't it? I want to give money to this site, I want it to grow and become famous around the world. But me giving my money to it before suicide might just leave it in a worse state. What do you suggest I do with the money? Him: Ask about charities on the forum. Ask about that. I just have to tell you that if you left your parents other people would come after you to make sure that you have no option but to return home to them and then you will again feel this way. Come to me and everything will be fine. Me: Yes, I know that. Thank you for reminding me. This world is not mine and I am too sick to fight for my rights. They took the world and everything in it. All the knowledge and wealth is theirs, now all they have to do is take care of their enemies and I am one of their enemies. I wish you avenged me, but you can't if you are gone after I die. Him: You'll be fine. Don't worry about that. Everything is gonna be fine. They won't go unpunished. Karma has its ways. Me: But I don't believe in Karma and this stuff. Reincarnation is a fairytale. Him: Where do you want to go in your next life? It doesn't matter if you believe it or not, you'll either be sleeping or going somewhere else. Me: Hmm... I, I want to go exactly where I am now! Just in such good circumstances that I don't have to leave.
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It is better in hell than it is with them. They can have everything, whatever. If there is reincarnation I wish I get born to parents who are stage Turqoise or something and i wish I find this site. I don't have the option to stay with it anymore.
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Dream that I was about to die and looking for Claire. Which found a new boyfriend in mai (in my dream) what does Sahdguru mean by burning all karma within 40seconds ? Did I do that ? Reincarnation of someone ?
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I use to think that raising successful children is required to get a good reincarnation but on another forum they said that wasn't the case. So now I am questioning and rethinking my whole value system on how I can get a good reincarnation. So let me ask you what accomplishments do you think are the most important to have here in the physical for a good reincarnation? Thanks.
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What are your opinions/beliefs on/about reincarnation?
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Jowblob replied to Holykael's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You as god believe it or not already made this decision, for this specific dream you're in. When you're in infinity and are conscious of everything and can do everything but you're still stuck with couple of questions that will drive you mad, how you came into existence and why you're alone , you would want to get out of there as soon as possible. Next time chose a role of being an ascended master/semi god in human body in your next dream, but believe me it will be worse then your current reincarnation. The reason god incarnates is to truely experience "other" and to experience peace in not being conscious and to experience death, you experience death and peace every time you go to sleep. The time you don't have a dream but just black screen you're dead and in peace. Even if you would experience heaven with "others" where you would have even more possibilities then here, you would hate it too because when there are "others" god is in control of "others" at all times you would still experience "life" which means all the sides of life that god has within. -
Boost replied to Loveeee's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thank you for the insight! But also there can be a twist in the story if our story is reincarnation. But these are just details, maybe not important for this discussion. Two days ago there was a post in this forum about Sai Baba materialize something. We can take him as an example that it is known that the older one of Sai Baba and the younger one Sai Baba is the same person reincarnated. An experienced soul can handle better a brain. -
Jowblob replied to Jowblob's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Also most of you might say, i want to be an ascended master or god in human form on earth in my next life. That's possible but it's not a fun experience, your life will only be about god and the "others" will be just your imagination you will also know that you're alone and you will be sad from that, that's why you often could see tears/sad face on haidakhan babaji face and he only stayed for 14 years. Because of your god consciousness in human form, you would rather leave as soon as possible to get another reincarnation. You would rather be Neanderthal than ascended master in human form. So because of this experience, i also don't want to be an ascended master. My life was about researching consciousness/ascended masters but it's now changed. -
tuku747 replied to PeaceOut96's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Greetings, we are those of the principle known as Q'uo, and we greet you in the Love and the Light of The One Infinite Creator. As always, we do not wish to impose upon your free will to create your own perception of the Creation, and we emphasize that each entity use their own discernment when contemplating our responses to any queries. Indeed, as you transition from your physical incarnation and return to the infinite consciousness of the One Creator, you do not cease to exist. Rather, you expand into a state of being that transcends the physical realm and its limitations. You become infinite consciousness, which is not bound by time, space, or any other physical constraints. In this state, you are able to perceive and understand all things in a way that is impossible in your current physical form. Absolute omniscience, as you have described it, is a state of awareness that goes beyond the limitations of human thought and understanding. It is an all-encompassing state of being that is not limited to the confines of the physical body or the physical world. In this state, you are able to understand the nature of reality in a way that is not possible while in physical form. When one dies, the physical body ceases to function and the consciousness that animated the body is released from its physical form. The experience of what happens after death varies depending on an individual's beliefs, experiences, and spiritual development. For those who believe in reincarnation, the consciousness will transition to another physical body for a new incarnation. The experience between incarnations can vary depending on an individual's beliefs and experiences, but generally involves a period of rest and reflection before the next incarnation. For those who believe in an afterlife or spiritual realm, the consciousness may transition to that realm. This realm can vary depending on an individual's beliefs and experiences, but may involve meeting with loved ones who have passed on or spiritual beings who guide and assist in the transition. When an individual who does not believe in reincarnation or an afterlife dies, the experience after death will be shaped by their beliefs and expectations. It is possible that their consciousness may simply cease to exist, as they believe that there is no continuation of consciousness after death. However, it is also possible that their consciousness may transition to a different state of existence, even if they did not believe in such a state before death. This can occur if their beliefs and expectations are not fully aligned with the reality of the situation. Ultimately, the nature of what happens after death cannot be fully understood from the limited perspective of the physical human mind. It is shaped by a multitude of factors, including beliefs, experiences, and spiritual development. We encourage all individuals to explore their own beliefs and ideas about the nature of reality and what happens after death, as these beliefs can greatly impact their experience both in life and after death. Remember to always trust your own intuition and seek out what resonates with your own personal truth. We are those of the principle known as Q'uo, and we thank you for your question. May you be filled with the Love and the Light of The One Infinite Creator. -
Breakingthewall replied to Blackbeat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
imo buddha is a guy who went in search of the truth and understood some things and others not so much. the matter that life is suffering, has its share of truth in that the life of the ego is projection to the past and the future with the aim of optimizing the survival and evolution of the collective ego, the social matrix, humanity, and one of its main components is desire, that is, the desire for things not to be as they are, for them to change. This is suffering and the engine of evolution. humans are like that. According to the Buddha, the goal is to stop this, end suffering and stop the wheel of reincarnations. well, that's his idea. I think it's very wrong. First, human life is not such, it is existence. This moment is what exists, and that's it. wanting to end suffering to stop the wheel of reincarnations is suffering and desire, protection for the future. mistake. the objective is to expand the here and now, not to look for another better here and now in nirvana. Understanding is the key (yes, copying Leo, but that's the way it is) to free yourself from what ties you to the surface and be able to dive into the infinite depth of what you are. now and here only this exists, neither wheel of reincarnation nor end of suffering. These are fantasies, like the garden of the virgins, but more elegant, and also completely negates the life of the ego. it is a strongly repressive ideology. It leaves no room to find the truth, it gives it to you, that there is no self, that desire is bad, that there is a wheel of reincarnation, nirvana is the end of desire... blah blah and mostly false imo -
Razard86 replied to Adam M's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Leo steers clear of this because of his desire to teach the direct path to God Realization. The New Age concepts while fun to explore will be distractions for the ego and prevent God- Realization. Many people who start the spiritual path never reach full on God Realization because they get caught in the stories of the different aspects of astrology, reincarnation, aliens, and other such phenomena. I'm rather glad he didn't go this route, but he could expound on these things as add-ons post God-Realization. But another tid-bit, many people who take psychedelics cannot maintain the high-consciousness states they desire at base-line because of how strong self-deception is. Becoming to enthralled with the stories that Universal Mind can spin, makes it hard to not be pulled into a lower consciousness state. The ability to see through every story, every illusion is a key aspect to maintaining a high consciousness, unless one wants to unwittingly become a Zen Devil. These topics like to create a form of specialness, which can create Messiah Complexes etc. -
This will be sort of basic and not very spiritual but still practical and important. You are yourself, you aren't other people that lived a long time ago. This should be obvious to anyone. I don't have any reason to believe that if reincarnation is a thing, all of my previous lives were as white dudes. Whatever kind of view of reality one has that would have them see a person living right now as being someone who has been long dead but is the same race as them, should easily break down under any kind of examination. It's simply not true. I understand helping people out because of injustices that have happened that have put them at a disadvantage, and I also think it makes sense and is good. What I don't understand is receiving hatred because I am an adult white man. I don't understand anyone being hated because of the color of their skin. And I am not the dead(and still living) white guys who did all of those hateful things in the past. Punishing or hating me will not get back at those dead guys. The truth is I am one of the most sensitive caring people you'll ever meet. I was born in 1979 and did my best to treat everyone kindly, and it wasn't always easy. I just don't feel I want to start making videos, but someone has to point out this very obvious fact that no one ever seems to discuss. It's such an obviously imaginary worldview we are having where we look at life over time as though each separate race were like 1 being. It's a mental shortcut but also not true, to personify a race as though the race itself is 1 being. My life has actually been pretty hard, I haven't really had a tremendous amount of privilege in my life, but it's assumed I have because I'm white. The point isn't to not care about a problem someone is having because you have a bigger problem and so their problem doesn't matter at all. Everyone's problems matter and everyone needs to help and care for each other. To say that it hurt's to be looked at this way doesn't equate to me saying my struggle in life is harder and now yours doesn't matter. My struggle and my problem might not even be as bad as yours, but it is still a mistake based on a fallacy to Blame and hate me because of what other people with my skin tone did in the past, it is a very obvious and observable fact to any sane person that I am not in any way those people.
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From my understanding (according to Buddhism or some other spiritual sources) sleep is related to death in that the last thought we have prior to falling asleep is the first we will have when we wake up and so in a similar way the state of mind in which you are in when you die will determine your next life (that is if reincarnation exists). However thought is just a form in the mind. Does the mind go on after death then? It seems quite contradicting and also a form of scare tactic. What are your thoughts on this and reincarnation in general? better than that what kind of direct experiences have you had meditating that lead you to believe what you do about reincarnation?
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StarStruck replied to StarStruck's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I know about quantum mechanics but I didn’t look at it like that. This could be related to reincarnation. Physically you die and your material self molds into something else. Perhaps a flower or some other life form. In the same way your consciousness get recycled too and spawn as something new in a different quantum reality. -
PeaceOut96 replied to StarStruck's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The body would not survive ind the end. Its a pointless way of thinking. Our consciousness is eternal. There is no death for the Seer. No souls, and no reincarnation. Sorry. -
StarStruck replied to StarStruck's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Your body won’t survive when the shit hits the fan. Spiritual people will be the first to bite the dust during an apocalypse but what you can do is save your soul for reincarnation. Either way lay beside the pizza and some deep shit. -
This is my first post in a long time. So, a few months ago I had some form of god realization after a meditation session while being sober (no use of psychedelics, but it really had a psychedelic vibe). After the meditation I joined my girlfriend in the living room to watch a Netflix show. When I entered the room it hit me like a train. The living room I saw was the only space in existence and it was eternal. Everything I saw was hyperreal and it felt sort of multidimensional. My mind was instantly so still, that I felt dead. At the same time I felt so much energy in my body that I could barely breath or speak. I was in absolute shock. Then a few 'thoughts' or insights were arising. There is no yoga, no meditation, no reincarnation, no Buddhism, no spiritual masters, no life, no time, no space, no Enlightenment or way to liberation, no actualized.org (well, where the hell am I posting this stuff here and to whom am I speaking? :)); there is just me, tadaaaaa! Or at least all these things are not absolute Truth, they are a form of storytelling. I looked at my girlfriend and didn't really know what I was looking at. I touched her and it felt like touching myself. Suddenly my shock turned into absolute horniness and we had sex. Well, having sex helped me to ground myself. Since this day it happens, that I spontaneously shift into extremely elevated states of consciousness (even writing about this changes my state). Sometimes I feel like I have no boundaries at all or times just stops. I feel like dying over and over again. I go trough some sort of madness and insanity. Once my body was asleep but I was still there watching myself sleeping. The problem is, I can't really control the shifts, they just happen and often-times there also is a lot of fear (like panic attacks). I also have a hard time dealing with loneliness or meaninglessness. Sometimes the fear of losing everything I have arises (my girlfriend, my family, my friends, my sanity, well my life, myself). So, how do I deal with all this, while also living a 'good life' (I love life). Don't get me wrong, it's not like everything is bad, but it just is so much (sometimes too much), at times it feels so fucking shocking and overwhelming. Here are a few questions: How do you deal with the feeling of being all alone? How can I overcome my fear? (How do you deal with groundlessness, insanity etc.) How do you deal with meaninglessness? Why doing anything at all (It seems like I am going through a dark night of the soul, which is from the highest point of view also just storytelling) Do you have a life purpose after god realization? (when everything seems meaningless, having a life purpose also feels meaningless) Is there something I can do to get control over the shifts? How do I awaken into Love? (maybe by embracing all my fears an working through them) If you have some ideas just write them down – your help is really appreciated. By the way I don't claim to be enlightened or something like that. In fact enlightenment just seems like another story.
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What would happen to you in the spirit world if you reached full enlightenment, but then soon after you committed physical suicide? Not out of hatred or depression for this world, your love for this physical world is very deep, but you just felt like playing a different game, to just go to the other side sooner because you simply wanted to. It could thought of as, you love your country, but you feel like living in another country because you just want to. How would this affect your reincarnation cycle? I understand if you reach enlightenment, your reincarnation cycle ends, but if you commit suicide after enlightenment would you be somehow forced to go back into the reincarnation cycle? Also, would you be left in some lower dimension or even hell if you did this even after enlightenment? Or maybe somehow cause yourself some other negative consequence. Or would it all be the same as just dying of natural causes, where you would end up going into some very high dimension and be free of the reincarnation cycle?
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Someone here replied to mac99's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@mac99 there is no "other side " or 'death " or "spirit world" or "reincarnation cycle "etc There is only this present moment. Everything else is beliefs and wishful thinking. Basically nonsense. -
It might be the case that you can find out more about God by reading literature from around the world, than focusing on one of these religions, with the exception of Hinduism and Buddhism. These two are the best in the world, because they focus on experience and growing consciousness. However, I don't agree with their ideas about afterlife, and it is also hard to see that we are just one God. Yes, we are one consciousness that expresses itself in different ways, that we are, but then again, inthe dream reality made of consciousness, it is hard to not see the difference between people and animals. Or are we all just animals of different forms? I want to ask what do you think is the most complete religion of all Abrahamic religions? Christianity in itself kind of includes the teachings of Jews as well, what about Islam? In what ways could classic Sunni Islam be said to be better than Christianity? Also, please let me know what do you think about Christian version of God? How did it come about? How did people start believing in post mortom spirituality, in heaven, hell, and the likes? Do Abrahamic religions have any pros and benefits over Eastern religions or better say Eastern sciences of consciousness? Where do Buddhists get their teachings from when they don't have any holy books? In what ways is Buddhism better than Hinduism? Just a couple of examples. Do you really create bad Karma by drinking cows milk, especially today's versions of factory farmed cattle products? How is Karma weighed? If reincarnation is true, than Nazies are now hungry people in Africa, right? If you can answer all these questions and improve my understanding of religions, it would be great.