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Progress replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I thought he was a bit wacky when he posted the Alien conspiracy but this is straight out of a movie. -
it is my goal to describe the way I experience the present moment so that you can all draw your own personal conclusions. One thing that stuck with me in spirituality is that you should be able to be happy anywhere you are, no matter who you're with. Meaning that when you walk alone on the street you should be able to be completely satisfied just walking alone on the street. I know understand why this is possible. Everything has so so much detail in the present moment. If you take a psychedelic and suddenly see the world in interesting ways this is the way the world is seen in the present moment, always. The pavement feels alive, sounds evolve, everything looks like the most beautiful piece of art you've ever seen, and it is. Because you literally switch dimensions, to live in the present is to experience an entirely different world. this is the best description I can give of change of world in the present moment. Everything has more dimension, more weight, more uniqueness. You know what you're looking at, but you know it's different then before. One can say both these images represent the same thing, but yet they are entirely different. If you viewed the world like the first image, and then you view it like the second image, is it really the same world? it merely shares the same ''blueprints'' but it has nothing to do with the previous. There's so much dimension to everything and myself that in proportion nothing changed,I'm not taller then lets say a building,but I feel a hundred times much taller then I used to be. Because the building became taller too. the proportions stay the same, but I feel and I know that this world is so much bigger then the one I used to live in a year ago. sometimes when a group of people pass by, it is so mesmerizing, it's like completely out of this world, the speed, the dimensions involved, it's like you'd be looking at a bunch of asteroids fly by in space. cars are cars, but they're so detailed and alive, they look like alien spacecraft with a unique personality. the sound of a car going by is like sci-fi sound now compared to before. where I want to get to guys,is that you can fully trust the present moment. leave your worries behind, there is infinity in the present moment, you can be completely ecstatic and live an insane adventure just walking on the street, your regular job can become a place of infinite magic. it is never about what you see and experience, there are infinite layers of reality behind your current reality, available to be explored
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Visitor replied to Visitor's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thank you pluto for your post. I have been thinking somewhat differently. These wands are already 17 years old. So, for me it is nothing new. If anything, I think today there is too much emphasis on selling things which imitate by appearance and lack metaphysical foundations. Harry Potter wands, and such, have taken over. The use of tools which aid and bridge between the physical and metaphysical are being watered down. Also, the metaphysician is losing insider vision and faith to make things happen. Nikola Tesla (1856-1943) had this ability more than most. He could build and make an apparatus perform in a way that nobody else could reproduce. Because of this, others blamed Tesla for being a charlatan. I believe Tesla was able to see something possible and work out how to make it happen. It was his conviction (faith), a metaphysical principle, which provided the means for creating what he deemed possible. For example. Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain) was a close friend of Tesla, and whenever he visited Tesla, Tesla would show him what he was working on. At one time, Tesla lit up the room they were in and Mark could not source the light, because the air itself was the light source. It was shadowless light. Tesla was able to vibrate an air gas, lets say Nitrogen, to release photons. Yet today we have not been able to do produce a room full of shadowless light*. Imagine its uses, every bit of air is lit up. Nothing hidden in the shadows. It could benefit surgery, and inspecting things in dark areas without the aid of a torch, etc. Tesla was able to do many such things because he had insider vision plus conviction to make it happen. I think there is a decrease in the number of faithful visionaries among metaphysicians of today. I might be wrong, but that is how I see it today. With regards to me in further developments in this field, I have ceased in doing so. Other avenues have come along. The lessons learnt have contributed, and still do, to furthering my journey down the rabbit hole of truth. * Interestingly, there has been reports from alien abductees (from MUFON reports) that they were in a UFO room of light that had no source point. Investigators/researchers have considered the walls and ceilings must have been the light source, but the abductees never (as far as I know) regarded that was the case. -
I think one of the good ways of doing it is maintaining a life not full of "shoulds" but something you "want or desire." What you have are better of not as rigid rules wifh an iron first but gentle guidelines. You can do this by practicing being aware of thoughts and replacing them with much more gentle and playful ways of doing with a spacious awareness. I'd like to add to Salaam's advice on humor here. I find in my experience, it was hard to find a sense of humor until I watched comedians. And trying to see their and the audience's point of view on laughter. Learning their way of making humor, jokes and having fun and finding what really gets you going the most. A kind of "humor" role model. Another way is seeing the situation from a fresh point of view such as imagining how a child would see it or an alien from outer space. I found it helpful to write a story in my life from a stressful point of view and then changing it to be more lighthearted. Ask, "How would a much more playful person see this situation?" and write that.
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jack k replied to ZX_man's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yeah, I've dealt with depersonalization as well. its tough and can get very fucking strange. basically I had an experience where I was playing basketball with my buddies and all of a sudden it felt as if i were on an alien planet. And i remember just looking at "their" bodies and they looked like straight up organisms is as best as i can explain it. I couldn't really interpret language and it was basically just sound coming out of their mouths. their arms looked like tentacles and hands and fingers don't even get me started. I couldn't look at my own hands without getting intense anxiety for a while so i went home and just tried to close my eyes and nap it off. Couldn't look at my own mother btw. Id say it was a mystical type experience though, i had no clue one could see the world this way. But yes, it does go away. keep meditating. I think its just when you see the truth of reality and your conditionings slip away for a second your ego freaks out and since you feel like you're a separate self the world then feels alien. -
Are you implying Jim Carrey is an alien?
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Our realm can be considered the densest we know, otherwise we would more than likely to have detected it. In this regard we could say that other realms, incorporating other dimensionalities, is much finer. Spirits, ghosts, demons, and the like are said to reside in such finer realms. Aliens, and their vehicles, have often been seen to appear and disappear from and to a vanishing point within itself. This points to coming from and returning to a finer realm. Every story I have heard/read about alien encounters have a deceptive element to it. It has no bases of truth, except that they exist, but not as we know it. IMHO
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who said Aliens have to be superhuman telepathic technologically advanced beings? I'm assuming the vast majority of alien life out there will be life forms not incredibly dissimilar to animals on earth in how they behave but might look different.
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@jse amen. SOunds crazy, but we did come from the stars. And the instant a creature is discovered, it's immediately not an alien.
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The trouble with SETI is that we are searching for a very narrow definition of intelligence, in a vast space & time. Just 200 years ago, we would have been searching for smoke signals, up to then the main form of long-distance communication. Now we are searching the radio wave spectrum, a technology which is almost obsolete. Looking for signs of this 100-year narrow window of technology in a 14-billion year old universe is like looking for a microscopic needle in a massive haystack. Then there is our very narrow definition of intelligence. How about trees which communicate with each other through complex chemical signals, or plants which manipulate insects through complex biochemistry, is that intelligence alien enough? We'll never find aliens, because the aliens are us.
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My biggest challenge to personal development are: Always having to prove myself better than everybody else. It's a self-esteem issue that manifests in a lot of ways because I can't let go of my inferiority complex. Whenever I'm at school or work I have to show everyone that I'm good at doing thing they do but deep down inside I fear that they might see through this mask and at the same time I'm insanely jealous at people who are more successful than me. Dealing with unconscious people. This one is actually the main challenge I'm having right now. It feels like waking up from hell but now trying to get my point across to my friends and family now makes me look like a complete alien. Except for my dad who had become more aware through years of experiencing life, nobody else in my family knows what enlightenment really is. Same with my colleagues and friends, they just don't want to talk about it so I really don't want to bring up this topic lest they throw me out of their social circle. I'm bringing the self-esteem issue under control right now, so it's just a matter of time, but what I really want to know is how to talk to other people about my thoughts and feelings without appearing insane. I know that @Leo Gura mentioned the ego speaks in its own language but how to translate seems near impossible.
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@Miguel Oliveira others have already said this, but you're not the only one who feels this. The real problem you're facing is that you really do believe that you are weird, strange, different, dont belong in this world, maybe the only one that's conscious, and everyone else is a philosophical zombie? Its very isolating. BUT What needs to be understood, is that people can notice how you feel about yourself. They can pick up on your lack of belief in yourself. Im not sure if you've ever encountered someone with a deep emotional peoblem, but interacting with those people are extremely unsettling, they give off a very dark aura. And that person is you! Its not you thats the problem here, its exactly what you rhink about you which is the problem. See the reason why you're so fake, isnt because you're some mystical, magical alien from mars that has to hide his identity like a russian spy incase someone finds out. Thats not whats going on deep down. Deep down your trying to avoid looking a part of yourself that absolutely disguists you. Youre trying to avoid those bad memories you have that imply that youre weird and different. See, it has nothing to do with the people around you, you being fake in front of others, is your way of avoiding those memories and ideas you secretly have about yourself, which are absolutely terrifying. Because if someone does find you weird, say if you decide to show your crazy true self, them finding you weird is the least of your problems, its the memories and ideas that you(and only you!) made about yourself which is going to bring you the most pain. The dude whose creeped out about you, is just pulling them out of the wardrobe for you. So you know what my advice is? Look at @Martin123 guide, and resolve all those memories.
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@Miguel Oliveira I hope this goes over the nice way I mean it, but, I think you may be misinterpreting your biggest strengths as weaknesses. I grew up as you describe only more intensely - most of my girlfriends and friends literally asked me if I was part alien (in reference to my thinking being different). Now that I'm old, those traits have been the very things that seperate me from the herd and have served me very well. Would I be right if I asked if, being honest, you are aware you usually have more of a 'bird's eye view' on things? That you see solutions and have to be patient when others see problems? Your 'differentness' or 'uniqueness' might make you feel different, but your differentness allows you to see things differently, things that everyone else is going to see that same as others. This is a huge advantage in the world. In art, business, music, film, culinary arts, etc...different is king. You just don't know it yet. Do more of what you love. Let this go for a while. Things will pop up for you in the best way. I think you notice a deep connection between other people but don't sense it between yourself and others, because, most people aren't as deeply connected to the universe / source / God, as you are. Keep an eye out for possible envy or resentment from others, that you may mistake for something else. Also, aliens come from the stars. So we're all aliens.
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I felt like an alien too and I still do. I was just gradually becoming myself more and more. I was facing my real self and my real desires and that is how I attracted real friends. I carried a lot of shame inside for being myself, but then I decided to stop running away from myself and let myself be me even if I am perceived as weird. It will be awkward and unpleasant at times, but honesty with yourself and others in the right contexts will pay off immensely to you. When I operated on a lower lever of my consciousness, relying only on my social mask, I wasn't able to find real people to connect with, but only those who reflected my mask, ie fake ones. But sometimes, you can find yourself surrounded with people who are not like you on a daily basis without your choice. For example, in high school, so maybe try to find some activities or different places to hang out with people who are more like you.
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I completely understand that feeling of being an alien! I took care of it by seeking out my true friends rather than just hang out with my peers! I met people on the Autism Spectrum, Autistic creative writers, theater students, a gleefuly and lovably crazy roller derby girl, cosplayers, and i'm now dating an artist. When you seek out your true friends, you realize you're that you're not alone! Tim Burton, Neil Gaiman, and Laika's films and Synetic Theater ELIMINATED those misfit feelings!
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I feel like I can't relate to anyone my age. I'm 19 and it seems like the only thing people care about my age is partying, drinking, doing drugs, and other low conscious activities. Almost every conversation I have with someone ends up being repetitive and superficial. It's like I am having the same conversation over and over again with different people. No one seems to like talking deeply about things. For example, In class I feel left out because everyone is talking about different shows they watch like Bates Motel, and I am just sitting there having a culture shock in my own fucking culture! Thinking deeply is apparently to much to ask of these people. I feel like I am on a completely different wavelength then other people. Like I am an alien! I have no idea what I should do. This has resulted in me becoming isolated and with very few friends.
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I'm just going to say that you're totally normal, just different. No need to feel ashamed over thinking differently or disagreeing. I think you'll eventually find people who can be open minded enough to understand a lot of the stuff you're talking about and maybe befriend them. I can't tell how long it's been since you've talked to people in alien language but surely at first you might feel weird if you didn't see the odd looks coming when you talk in this different language. I think it will pass once you gain some perspective on what it means to think differently. It's a big difference to think so differently compared to others but it's still an understandable one. When it comes to loneliness just letting go and letting it be makes it fade away for me. Accepting and thinking that it's fine you don't have anyone you deeply connect with right now. It's all good. Also realizing how silly loneliness can be sometimes and that it can be sort of like worrying about something you can't do anything about. You might still be lonely after going through my tips but it won't take it down with you, or that's how it went with me. Nowadays if I do get lonely it's not really loneliness, it's more like extra social insecurity and I get lonely very rarely or it's very mild because I accept it without question. Hope this helps!
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It's funny, these gifts from the universe have different challenges based on the consciousness climate. For Jesus it was about a family structure metaphor. For Bashar it is about an alien/transdimensional being channeling through a human. There are tons more clues everywhere for people if/when they are ready. So no need to be sad Just focus on your own journey.
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Mohammad replied to SOUL's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You are breathing.you feel the hand.you see.you feel your tongue. This is the only real thing.then "I" comes in! trying to understand it,or in other words,turn all of this into symbols.beliefs.this,that. But maybe,this is our blind spot.we dont need to understand anythig.it is already here.all of this is you,we are not alien here.everything in the world,all of the feelings in the world,if become experienced,then they are us! we are our own home.we just need to realize this,and return home. -
Cool story but your alien egos are just using the wrong terminology here. God as term used cannot mean any entity. It is as if you don't understand there can be only one God. Not cool to be this deluded and splat it about, even if you're some alien entity. There is absolutely nothing special about being a demiGod. Get of your high horse. I really don't care about aliens and other dimensions, they are not somehow exempt from the ultimate truth. Saying fancy words like Godhead doesnt mean you're not deluded. It's an ego trip times 100
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I consider myself a dualist. Maybe that's gonna change at some point, but it is, what it is, right now. But I've contemplated this a lot, and I don't think dualism and non-dualism are necessarily that much different. What causes what shifts, and you're going to make a few different connections here and there, but in a bigger picture, even simple values come out way ahead in terms of understanding each other. I don't think there's a ladder like you describe, and if there is, my opinion is that it's a very very high one, which isn't really the topic of the discussion. The rigidity you describe isn't something that's exclusive to dualists. There are many people that believe in some kind of non-dualism, even if they don't know the word. If you talk to moderate Christians in western countries, their abstraction of god is pretty much what consciousness is to non-dualism, and for them to assume a dualistic point of view is just as alien as religion is to an atheist. That rigidity is something else, you will find it in almost all people. It's a way of thinking people are very used to. It's not just a lens, it's a beaten path in a huge jungle. You are frustrated by the way they don't consider how you think, just how they are frustrated by your suggestion to change perspectives, when they don't have an internal reason to do it, other than your word. And there are reasons why this dynamic developed. Trying to put yourself in another persons shoes is hard and often very much impossible. If the Dalai Lama came around the corner and I told you "just see the world like that dude does", you wouldn't be able to. And if every day is a challenge to your life, like it was for the most part of our evolution, you don't have time for it, so these patterns emerge. Think about how much time you really spent, until you got to the point, where you are right now, and if you can expect others to follow up on that. If I asked you to consider self development from an assembly language point of view, because god is obviously an AI, what would your reaction be?
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I'm trying to attest for this, to share an important realization that you are completely unique in more ways then you imagine. I want to talk about how we see the world. Before I started to enlighten, when I was still fighting my depression, my vision of the world was static. Meaning the colors, the cars, the faces of people, the things I see in my life, I thought they were objective, and that everyone saw the things in the same way as I do. I thought that the world looked the way it did for everyone in it. After doing some mild dmt trips that helped me reach a conclusion in my depression, my vision started changing, lights got brighter, things looked more eerie and mystical. I suspected my third eye opened, or that the dmt trips had some lasting effect. You could say both. But after stopping the dmt trips, my vision still continued to develop. Lights didn't get brighter, otherwise I'd be overwhelmed by this point, but they got lively. Day after day after day small vision changes. lights more lively, sights more eerie, like being a mild shroom trip. This has been a steady process this past year. At some point though it accelerated so much I've arrived in a completely different dimension. With the same concepts of ''props'', I still recognize a car as a car, a person as a person, a tree as a tree, but they don't look anything like they did before. It's not just light, it's like this huge dimension and weight is added to everything, there's way more space, everything started to look as complex and beautiful as a painting, now it's beyond a painting, everything looks dreamlike. It didn't stop at vision, sounds are completely enhanced, people's emotions are 50 times more complex and absorbing. I see emotions I never saw before in people. It's like going from 3D, to 4D, to 5D, because every day it just keeps changing, it never stopped. And what I see today is literally different then what I saw 3 days ago. will it continue to accelerate? where will it go?! sometime I see people walking around and their faces, the structure of their body, is so complex and interesting that the word ''alien'' used to come to mind. Nowadays when I see someone the word ''alien'' doesn't come to mind anymore, it's more like ''god, godess''. people are so magnificent, so full of presence,complexity, dimension and beauty. we truely are gods, and it is possible to see that divine side of your fellow creators. What I really want to share with you who are reading this, is that I have no idea how you see the world. And I never will, I don't know how we can all co-exist so harmoniously while seeing different things, literally, it's like magic. I know that what I see is unique, it's ever-changing, so what do you see? what will you see? even your vision is unique, just the way you perceive the world, the way you hear the world is unique. you are awareness, and everything you are aware about is absolutely filled with your essence, there really is no distinction between what you and what you are aware of. what is your dimension like?I'll never know,how do people look in your world?I'll never know. I just know that I can't even remember what my world looked like a year ago,I literally can't imagine it,but I know that it would like a scrubby piece of paper, next to a big cube of water which is my reality know. if you believe, if you're convinced that you're awareness is unique, that the way you see things is unique to you, I'm absolutely sure that you'll be able to experience infusing more of your unique essence into your sounds and sights.
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My college friends called Me Muni (which means sanyasi) for fun. and guess what Now iam an alien to them.
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Nahm replied to Hero in progress's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@electroBeam It's the "if you do show someone" part that I'm at. For all my openness and looking, no one has showed anyone anything. @Leo Gura With all the respect in the world for what you do, this is an exact example of what I'm saying - this is always where paranormal ends. So far in my experience it always boils down to nothing but others' conflation. It always turns out they experienced a drug trip (I'm a fan myself) or a story they were told (usually at a young age) and adopted the details as their own. It would just be nice if for once someone experienced a ghost, or alien, or whatever, and said "here it is", rather than ultimately, "it all took place in my head" or "if you were me, you wouldn't talk openly about it" or the switch to "if you were open to it you would experience it too", which may be felt as genuine, but is also a simple defensive misdirection of topic. I've been open to aliens, angels, for many years, roughly 20. But still nothing. I am expressing from my experience. It reminds me of how religious people get offended when someone continues to ask about their religion. Apparently, it's not fun for people to discover that something they say they know, turns out to be a belief. Poeple seem to take words about a topic as words about their character. If you ask someone about a vacation they took, they'll tell you about it all day. They'll make popcorn for the slideshow. Ask about something that they claim happened, but never actually did happened, and they get frustrated pretty quickly. -
First off, I want to commend you for your self-honesty and your desire to be better. I think that many people tend to deny their own racist tendencies because they don't want to face the internal ugliness and to see themselves in a negative light. So, most people afflicted by racist thoughts and tendencies ignore them and end up expressing them without being aware that they are being racist. So, I think awareness is the most important first step, and you're already there. The second step would be to contemplate upon things like what you mentioned in the post: recognizing that all people within a group are different, realizing that your existence as you, could be literally any other way. What I mean by this is that you could just as easily be experiencing another person's experience if you were incarnated as a person in their situation or as them. Your birth as yourself is arbitrary. There are other contemplations that you can do as well, relative to the circumstances of birth and life circumstances. Also, you'll want to contemplate on the profound similarity between all human beings. There is a Latin phrase that translate to "Nothing that is human is alien to me." that expresses this insight. Human beings, though we have subtle differences (that seem to us like big differences) are still 99% similar. We're just so close to the situation that we recognize all the little differences. The third step is to get to know people who are of the races that you're racist against. It's harder to discriminate if you have friends within that group. However, a caveat would be that even if you know people from the group you have prejudices against, you can still fall into the "I'm not racist... I have a black friend" trap. It can be used to fuel denial of racist tendencies which can revert progress. The fourth step is to practice getting in touch with the emotions that cause you the discomfort, as sensations in the body instead of as thoughts in the mind. Practice dropping the thought and focusing just on the emotion. Racism is foremost a form of projection, so it always has to do with aspects of yourself that you've repressed and denied. So, a minority group who you know little about can function as a blank screen for a person to project their own disowned traits, anger, and resentments upon. So, if you reintegrate your disowned traits and resolve the inner emotional turmoil that causes this internal split and subsequent projection upon large groups of different looking people, this will allow you to address the root of the racism at its bedrock level. You'd be surprised that racism has little to do with race at its core. It has to do with self loathing projected outward. Otherwise, continue maintaining your awareness of these tendencies throughout the day and practice observing and then letting go of intrusive racist thoughts. And be gentle with yourself. This inner turmoil is surrounded by and in large part created by outer social turmoil. If you want to really make progress you have to allow yourself internal non-judgmental space to deal with this issue. People on the outside of your mind will likely judge you one way or the other and try to nudge you in their direction. Don't let the outward taboos and judgments impede your inner progress which can (and most likely will) be a messy and ugly process. So, try not to judge yourself.