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@passerby It goes deeper than that! Even a hyper-dimensional brain complex is not as permanent as Infinite Consciousness itself. The final task is: become God, not some alien brain complex. Alien brain complexes are a tiny part of God's imagination.

I know this thread is about the new psychedelic, but since people are talking about other crazy experiences on other psychedelics. I think you will like this. Its from a new book called "Alien information theory: psychedelic drug technologies and the cosmic game" written by some neuroscientist who is also teaming up with rick Strassman to explore IV drip dmt for multiple hour long sessions of strait dmt. I didn't take the picture, its from reddit, but I've been meaning to buy the book myself

That's what makes my tests tricky. I have so much experience at this point and such a deep theoretical foundation that my trips are not your typical trips. For me each trip goes deeper and deeper, regardless of which substance. Mushrooms are not what they used to be for me. But even so, I hit a new level on this substance. Is it 100% due to the substance? No, it's a combination of factors. But this substance still seems pretty awesome to me. This substance will have great variability for different people because it really opens up your consciousness to go wherever your mind wants. For me this works great because my mind only cares about one thing: knowing God. But this is not most people. The thing I love about this substance in particular are: 1) It's slow-acting like molasses, allowing me to introspect and contemplate like on no other psychedelic. I can get ultimate insights about anything and everything better than with 5-MeO-DMT, which is too fast and racey. To me, this degree of contemplate seems impossible for any ordinary human to accomplish. The ordinary human mind simply cannot do such things. It's like unlocking the mind of a highly advanced alien species that can think in 5 dimensions. 2) I love its healing properties. It feels like I can use it to intentionally rewire my mind and body. All I have to do it imagine it and it happens. It feels like if one had cancer this substance could expand consciousness enough to heal it using one's will. But of course that's not proven. Just my hunch. It probably wouldn't work in all cases and I may be exaggerating it. But also maybe not! More testing required. I could see how this thing could cure things like depression or other kinds of psychological hang-ups if used properly.

JOKE OF THE DAY - the text here is so small and stuff that I don't need to make a joke. In fact i'm gonna reveal my biggest secret. I am not human. I'm actually a alien from mars. Helllllllllo. its me incase you didnt know who it was. My name is proactive and I am not a alien. I am a fellow human like you. My goal should be to be able to spend more time on my homework. Be present while doing it. So there are days where i'm motivated and not. I gotta get this in my mind. I work when I feel motivated. I don't when I dont feel motivated. What i'm gonna do is try to work when I least feel like it. Build the calluses in my mind. as David goggins says. He motivates me; but is his strategy really the best way for me to conquer school? He does have a point. Just working when you feel motivated won't work. But there is things like happiness. If I spend too much time doing something. I get bored and I don't feel happy doing it. Happiness is correlated with success in school. Well; what we gotta change is the internal stuff. Be happy suffering. Enjoy feeling no motivation. Embrace it. Embrace the negative feelings.Here's a poem a wrote a while ago when I was depressed. Then I embraced the lonliness. The ground is covered in ashes, the grey clouds loom accross the wide open sky. There is nothing, but darkness. But that is okay, because I am darkness now too.

Next time you do it, do it with the intention of your question and the answer will or at least should arise so you don't have to keep going back to the substance because substances can delude you further if you abuse them too much. I abused them all, i am so much better now without substance because i actually started to apply the teachings of what i realized during substances on a daily basis so i never have to go to the substance to feel that way or have those insights again. Of course this is not to say i will never do them again, but i allow them to come from a spiritual calling rather than a mental one so the once in a blue moon i do reconnect with the plant teachers, its a divine marriage and cosmic orgasm that lasts and lasts long after the substance has worn off. MDMA is one of the harder drugs, it should not be used more than once every 3 - 4 months but if it turns into a habit of taking it every 3 - 4 months then you are not really learning anything. Same for all other substances, I prefer mushrooms or DMT as they feel most natural and healing too me. I personally experience low-dose MDMA high almost all the time now that i have stopped using all substances and all chemicals in processed food and over-use of technology in my diet/lifestyle including weed which was masking my natural enlightened state and giving me a false-enlightened state. I will say there was a time where i felt on a high dose MDMA high all the time naturally but i was Alien to everyone else around me and i understood i need to find a more neutral or balanced point to get by with everyone else or else i would have to become a hermit and move away from society completely. Namaste

Leo's recently updated the book list. A new top 5 book in the consciousness, enlightenment & spirituality section mentions that at rare times throughout history aliens have incarnated in human form to aid our evolution in consciousness. Here you have a video of Sadhguru conjecturing that Shiva may have been an alien. (If that doesn't make you laugh I dont know what will lmfao) After seeing this I am much more curious about contacting other dimensional beings+entities. Just some food for thought.

Understandably spiral dynamics is a sufficiently accurate at describing human beings and human evolution. However, what if we encounter an alien species within our universe is found which is incomputable to the spiral dynamics model, and in fact uses a model radically different if such case is possible. Would that be possible?

Any Alien that gets close enough to Earth for us to assess their mental constitution would probably be making a model for us and not vice versa. We are a species that is working toward making ourselves extinct. No one wants our model trust me.

Agreed, we know next to nothing about these creatures and how they fit in to the big picture. The prejudice surrounding the word 'alien' must be made aware of. What makes you assume it's to have a more graspable experience of the fear of the unknown?

Then the model needs to be updated. What is any stage of the spiral dynamics model really? It's a collection of attributes, which may or may not be common in multiple stages of the model. But each stage is characterized by a set of attributes/ characters. If you are open minded, look at multiple sources then you might be yellow. And if you have yellowish traits then I don't think you will have more red traits like close mindedness or stage blue traits, because they are mutually exclusive to each other. If an alien has such a mental constitution that it shows both yellow and bluish traits then the model won't work for them, and a new model should be developed for them.

Jesus was an alien. Your own children along with all babies are aliens. Where else do they come from? The shocker: you yourself are an alien who was able to convince itself otherwise.

Aliens are attractive to our culture because they make great stories and are well, terrifying. But we have still a lot of ideas about them, even the word alien congers up an image. We want to understand the bigger, greater infinite unknown and sometimes it helps to assign at least some qualities to it. Basically you made up the idea of aliens in your mind, and also in doing so created them in reality so that you could have a more graspable experience of the fear of the unknown. We all personally make up our own things and our experiences all with the same aim.

English is not the same language between two persons. I often think the other person uses different meanings for words and has different world views. Some people are not good at english, and their english feels like unique alien dialects of english on Mars that diverged from the mainland earth english 100 years ago.

Yes, it's all God's imagination. But you are God, so it's your imagination. It's not all "ego stuff" any more than you seeing a cat walking down the street is "ego stuff". That's not ego, it's the "world". Some people who trip can of course do so in a dualistic way, where they might see an alien and assume that this alien is somehow "other" to them. But that alien is just like any other being in "real life". It is BOTH an entity other than you, but also it is you, since all people are you. If you look at the world dualistically, other people are not you. If you look at the world nondualistically, other people are all your own projections. There's really no contradiction. Both are true in a sense. Of course if you trip with a weak spiritual foundation the ego can co-opt the trips and do a lot of egoic stuff and projecting. So you have to be careful about self-deception. Just like you do in "real life." But seeing a DMT entity is not ego any more than seeing a cat is.

@Leo Gura Great video, lot of deep stuff. The only thing I'd add is to what you said is that from my experience there comes a time in which there is no going in to find a god head (or out), there is nothing that is not god/head, the experience of those phenomenon (going in or out) and the differences that are experienced as such, visible and known (the appearance of differences, spiritual experience vs mundane everyday, more conscious vs less conscious, what is known as god vs what is just its forms and not god) are itself god/head.... Another thing that I found is God tricking itself is not a negative (it may not be a trick), its not a problem, its not something to see as wrong that has happened, that "people" are deliberately" deluding themselves. There are no people, but god happening as it wants to, living the human experience, the dog experience, the alien experience and in my opinion is to be celebrated, met with heart and love of myself.

I did 2 grams of mushrooms recently and was unable to distinguish myself from the other objects in the room. It was peaceful and I just stood there staring. The trip then turned very dark and solipsistic and I realised that there is nobody else. When I went and laid down on my bed, I was picking up a really strong alien theme and there was some vague imagery associated with that. I felt terrified as if I am just torturing myself in order to know myself and this will never end.

@Aakash Yes, you can experience an alien, ‘sober’, without mind, just beyond radical open mindedness, among other “previously impossible real” things. I hear what you’re saying there. I see it too. I like “community”. It is Radical indeed.

@Aakash In all seriousness though i think what Leo was referring to that someone who already actually believes he saw an alien due to insanity or some type of delusion, that it literally is real because it is real to them. I can conceptualize that I met this alien in my mind like a story, but i can't then go meta on that and make myself belief that i wasn't imagining it, no. So if it's not what i said above then maybe i'm not there yet or I need to do some serious tripping for that. I don't see how needing to do that would gain me anything in this work though. I'm perfectly liberated just the way I am.

@Inliytened1 its a simple question, can you create an alien in your consciousness, can you imagine up an alien. Yes or No Yes i am not disputing this. This is true reality is non-localised, i have had this mystical experience, i have experienced the eternal now. SO i can understand how its confusing from your point of view. There is no perspective, we know this- you know this, you've lost your perspective by being enlightened. but this is basically getting to 0, you yourself haven't become god, you haven't learned how to create stuff, because YOU (GOD) haven't yet FINISHED BECOMING the Perfect Paradox. YOU have BECOME GOD, yes! this is true. But you need everyone in society to become enlightened, for this to happen, because we are all becoming god together and that's why i can't figure out what the paradox wants. Is to become god, but its not possible with duality currently a) because language doesn't exist b) because enlightened being's have not tried however, if you can create aliens in your consciousness, then i will say fair play and that you can create BASICALLY, I WANTED THIS POWER TO COME INTO MY POSSESSION SO I COULD MAKE A PRODUCT THAT WILL MAKE ME A MILLION POUNDS LOL SO SHALLOW, BUT THEN I SAW THE POTENTIAL OF PURE IMAGINATION, BUT ITS ONLY CONCEPTUAL, like i said no enlightened being's have tried in my opinion. But again NOTE: i am not enlightened, so its only a hypothesis that is probably not possible.

@Inliytened1 NO THATS EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD BE! SO CAN YOU IMAGINE AN ALIEN INTO YOUR REALITY, THAT IS THE QUESTION

yes which is why i said as infinite consciousness, you should have the ability to create a hallucination of an alien in your reality, but there is no-one hallucinating thats not what is happening, what is happening is infinity is willing aliens into exsist, not from the perspective of you being conscious of it, its just BEING itself. Its infinity splitting into infinity, well that's the only way i can say what i mean its infinity splitting into infinity I believe it is possible to create it without the help of DMT , but i'm an avid believer in the fact its able to it by itself. but i felt this was Millennia off, the truth is you would need a whole enlightened world to do something like that, before they understand what pure potential actually means, and your saying you done it with the help of DMT, i'm shocked Edit: we've hardly even developed siddhis and siddhis are considered the most weirdest thing, that's why i said millenia and with the help of a whole enlightened society, because what i'm talking about here is infinity willing something into reality. Its next level. siddhis i think don't even come close

By exploring various states you learn what consciousness is capable of, which helps you understand what it is. Ultimately what you're searching for is a state of total omniscience, where everything is 100% understood. This would be the God state. Imagine that there is a state of consciousness in which you exist as a brick for 1 billion years. Imagine that there is a state of consciousness in which you are alien existing in 11 dimensions. Imagine that there is a state of consciousness in which you exist as all the books ever written by humans. Imagine that there is a state of consciousness in which you exist as the color yellow. Totally wacky stuff like that which is totally impossible from your current state of consciousness.

@Leo Gura see this is what I expect enlightenment to be and what Buddha reached and Jesus. At this stage I expect true paranormal powers to develop because what you’ve essentially done is rid the mind itself of all limitations as a tool to be used. Enlightenment is about back tracking, so when you hit 0, your meant to go along with the flow of the universe consciously, this to me is the point where you start developing concepts yourself based on truth. But concepts are limited to pure imagination, in other words, there is nothing you can not not do. At this point you should be able to create aliens, not physical aliens, your reality itself shows an alien in front of you. And I 100% believe this because of kundalini, my natural dmt levels sky rocketed and I induced hallucination of a flower into my reality without any substance taken. Reality itself broke down. But im getting besides my point, the question is: is this what Buddha realised and why it says in the 2nd fetter that you have to believe Buddha reached the highest enlightenment possible

That would the best thing possible for such a person. It's like an alien coming from the sky with his spaceship getting me out of my house and then beaming my house away with his spaceship and disappearing. I lost my house it sucks but, it's totally worth it. I'm guessing thats how it would be for an enlightened person to be stuck on wage slavery, just perfect.

Even if someone MET him, there is no way to know shit about him. Not really. Most married couples remain alien and strangers to each other in spite of living together for 40 years; whereas ideally they are supposed to become one soul and all that good stuff Edit: A very easy question. How much do your parents 'understand' and know you? You've lived like 20 years with them and yet they probably dont know even 2% about you.