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There is no such thing as alien. There is only you.

I know what you guys are saying. Here's my point....God wants to cosplay as me...and from an absolute solipsism viewpoint that's correct...all it wants to do is be a Ramu. And it is. Otherwise I'd be E.T. Somewhat silly, but I understand that my True Self is NOT human....so is that the "alien" consciousness? ... Somewhat off topic...but if psychedelics could get me there somehow, it sure would be nice if the United States Government would fucking LEGALIZE them. To make matters stickier, Leo won't allow the topic of sourcing...so aside from ordering Brazilian tree bark and extracting dmt that way, and aside from going to the dark web (and getting arrested by federal agents)...it seems we're at a standstill. I happen to know a few people where I can acquire them...but not too many people I know have 5 meo or al-lad or 5 meo malt laying about....so aside from all this how the hell would anyone progress to Leo's levels of everything is hush hush and we can't even fucking talk about it? WTF?

Let's assume it's not alien. If a secret laboratory had the technology to build such a thing, should they inform humanity about the achievement? Not necessarily.

No. They're a lost tribe of alien mice.

Whether or not there exists something like an orderedness to reality independent of our sensemaking is kinda vague and trivial. What I'm saying is that to articulate exactly what that order entails does depend on our sensemaking. "Logic" or "laws" is also just one way of making sense of it, and the logic and laws you're able to articulate depends on your cognitive structures, and these are not universal. They're specific to humans who underwent evolution on planet Earth and the cultural evolution of the last 30 000 years. If you were a lizard who evolved inside a cave without a visual system, or a hyperdimensional alien who is not constrained by space or time, you'll come to very different conclusions than humans. The realist tendency is a survival mechanism that reduces complexity and speeds up mental processing. Believing that there is such thing a thing as a physical particle out there in something we call space and which changes its states through something we call time, is an useful intuition given to us through culture and evolution. But look at say quantum mechanics: is light a particle or a wave? How can something be two things? It starts to betray our realist intuitions. The pragmatist impulse is to say that the particle model is one model, and the wave model is another model, and they're simply different ways of making sense of a phenomena. As for QM, somebody recently won a nobel prize for their 40 years of work on quantum entanglement, which disproves the idea that particles have standalone existence (properties that exist independent of measurement) and that actions in the universe are constrained by locality (the speed of light). Einstein didn't want to accept these possibilities because they are so counterintuitive. So again, you see how the rules that we're willing to apply to reality are strongly tied to our cultural and evolutionary intuitions.

The Collective It feels as if it were a friendship or relationship with the Collective, including nature. As if somehow the Collective were a hive mind or communicating at lightening speeds on an unconscious level. It feels directly connected to people and reality, even though when the Collective communicates with me unconsciously it feels very alien. The rest is synchronicity or higher intuition. Awakening When I am in alignment I am also experiencing awakening. I won’t go into too much detail apart from that since I am still exploring it but basically it’s that I experience everyone and everything as Me. Other signs: Note: Signs and symbols don’t mean anything unless it feels right. Higher intuition or synchronicity. Cigarettes - symbolises incorrect positioning/incorrect invitation (overstaying, wrong people etc.) Smoking - symbolises incorrect positioning/incorrect invitation (overstaying, wrong people etc.) No smoking - symbolises no incorrect positioning/incorrect invitation (overstaying, wrong people etc.) motorcycles - symbolises incorrect positioning/incorrect invitation (overstaying, wrong people etc.) Barbeque -symbolises incorrect positioning/incorrect invitation (overstaying, wrong people etc.) Fire - symbolises incorrect positioning/wrong action Fire extinguisher- symbolises correct positioning/right action Alcohol - symbolises incorrect positioning/wrong action Difficult to stay awake After my awakening yesterday it’s difficult to stay awake, it’s like the friendship between me and the collective is so dead. There’s such depression. I have to bring it back to life somehow.

Kardashian ass is unnatural and alien to me. I'm more into eastern European girls.

@Gabith So you have been seeing a psychologist for a few months. Is he/she a professional, educated and experienced person, who has been several hundreds of hours in psychotherapy including hypnotherapy? Is he/she a psychotherapist at all? I doubt it. Trained mental health professionals should know that hypnosis can induce psychosis. After the end of the therapeutic hour they should check up on their patients or clients and aply a proper therapeutic metodology in case early signs of psychosis happen. It seems he(or she) haven't done any of that. Hatred is an agressive urge towards an object that treatens you. The origin of it is some early trauma or Trauma. When we experience fear, we often feel hatred as a defence against the pain. However many times hatred is also repressed by another layer of fear of punishment or shame of not being accepted if we express the hatred (even if it expressed in healthy way). If you uncover this in inappropriate way, it can "overflow" your daily awareness. Sometimes it feels as an "outsider" or as an "psychological alien". The solution to that is acceptance of hatred which is burdend by fear or shame, and also acceptance of that deeper fear and pain which is the cause of hatred in a first place. That would be an in-depth resolution and healing of your problem. Of course with a proper professional psychotherapist. I hope that helps...

..yet they're generally accounted for by physical processes understood by modern science, whereas what I was referring to is not. If I said "Sadhguru radiates a divine essence that inspires awe and is felt by his mere presence or gaze alone", how exactly do you think a scientist would go about measuring this? No, not in the specific way you're asking. If you simply have a dream or see visions of another life that in no way suggests you were seeing your past life. But if it's an experience of literally spending years on alien planets, living in other dimensions and building long-term relationships with inter-dimensional aliens who teach/show you how reality works, then those experiences might override whatever you're told in the physical.

Irrelevant to the the point. There are many people like Sadhguru where there naturally shouldn't be. Sadhguru sometimes mentions how he can can simply look at a random person and they both suddenly "feel" each other's "energy" or "quality of consciousness", and are in shock of each other. Like meeting a fellow "awakened one". Even Leo talks about this in his Turquoise video, iirc. People can be at a level where they just radiate their Turquoiseness, where people start to gather around them from the energy they radiate. Simply having grown up in "the right kind of environment", as Carl was suggesting, isn't enough to account for this, I didn't. I was making the point that matters of the physical alone aren't enough to account for everything we see. Yes, but again that doesn't mean anything. Experiences are just that. I wasn't suggesting that souls are the reason for these differences, but that they could be one, in theory. It's an "unknown" why some people just don't seem to "fit" in a family, or are particularly drawn to some random/specific thing in their career or whatever. It being unknown means there are, for certain, variables which we haven't accounted for, meaning we can't rule out souls being one such variable. Specific reasons? You mean like ones we've measured with our modern day equipment? Well there is some indirect empirical evidence of this, by the monroe institute, such as proof of dimensions outside our own, which validate Robert Monroe's and Tom Campbell's accounts of their direct experiences, many of which suggest and/or confirm the existence of soul-like forms and their fundamental/ubiquitous nature across all realms of existence. But all that exists is your experience, so if it's not your experience it's not your truth and is impossible to really verify. If an alien knocked on your door, or if a famous scientist proclaimed that souls exist, none of that would really mean anything.

So recently I went to go see a shaman who is a professional energy clearer and past-life reader. (an older man... late 50s) The reason why I went to go see him is because he was reccomended to a friend of mine by my some of my favorite buddhist meditation teachers who I've done many retreats with (not blue Buddhists... turquoise Buddhists).... for clearing her chronic migranes. This guy can pick up on a person's past lives that are relevant to know in one's current life. (turned out, that girl had a past life where she was killed by having her head put in a head crusher)... that explains the migranes. [Things like having a strong fear of falling (in my case) might probably be the result of past lives resulting in death by falling. (which he actually picked up 3 past lives where I died from falling)]. I also noticed that people tend to re-incarnate in cultures or ethnicities that they have already lived as... my heritage is Italian and I've had multiple past lives in Italy and Europe... whereas an African may have many African past lives or a Chinese many Chinese past lives. When I went to go see him with my girlfriend. He asked question about any emotional or physical traumas that we experienced in our lives... and did a great job of reading the energy. It felt like he would know things about my past injuries that he would have no business knowing. Then he had me lie down and basically just touched my body in certain ways that felt like energy was being cleared or released. After about 10 minutes... I stood up and felt a bit dizzy... but overall slightly shifted energy... feeling like a lot of physical and emotional trauma had been cleared. Like for example...I mentioned to him that I've had problems with eczema (skin rash) for my entire life... and he immediately picked up that it was from a past life where I lived in a leper colony. I would also have nightmares of my teeth being yanked out or them growing in my mouth in hideous ways... He picked up that was because I had a life where I was tortured (by having my teeth yanked out) and killed. I trust this guy because his energy was very grounded and genuine. I could really tell that he was a professional. So he later that night he tapped into my energy after meeting me in person and channeled some oddly detailed and insightful information about my past lives (that are relevant in my current life). Here is the list: *attached* (you'll notice that the dates and locations are historically accurate... ex. "Died in gladiator uprising in southern Italy" was the exact date of the 2nd gladiator war that happened in Sicily in the year 100 B.C. Interesting stuff! Apparently I died from mustard gas in WW1 ?. Would explain my chronic sinus problems that I struggled with my whole life The verdict: obviously this stuff (like all ideas) should be held loosely... but I think that you would have to be pretty dense to not at least be open to the idea of past lives. I paid this guy $100USD for this session and I'd say that it was overall a pretty worthwhile experience. My girlfriend had a crazy past life (that was not conventional... similar to Dolores canon's "the three waves of volunteers" where she uncovered alien past lives from earthly people who had inhabited different densities and dimensions in their past lives) but I don't want to share the details as it's not my place to share it.

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You don't understand how malleable reality and consciousness is, until you start to see it morph and fall apart right in front of you. Temporary insanity shows you just how much of your conscious experience depends on your senses providing you with consistent, reliable stimuli. Just one hit of THC vape blew my reality apart for around 6 hours. I can't imagine the insanity that something like DMT would induce in me. Visually: Walking down a hallway, or going up or down a staircase felt like a journey. At one point my wife came to the bedroom to check on me and I literally asked "Can I come visit you?" when she went back to the room next door. Because it was literally like having to walk halfway across town just to get back to the room next door. Minor distortions, kind of like a video taken with a fisheye lens. Peeing into the toilet, it seemed a lot smaller and further away than normal. I felt like I was basically stuck cross-eyed for the entire experience. At points it was like I was occupying two separate areas of physical space at once. I could see like a hologram or like a neon wireframe of myself a few feet away, and I could snap back and forth between them instantly. True insanity is losing touch with reality entirely. But you don't even have to go anywhere near that far for things to get really weird. You can still be in touch with reality and only having a slightly distorted view of reality, and have it still be really messed up. Think what it feels like to have your mouth frozen after the dentist. That's having your regular expectations modified only by like 0.0001% and its already weird and unnerving AF. Now imagine if someone took your consciousness and put it into a fly. Suddenly instead of feeling and breathing and seeing like a human, you were looking through hundreds of eyes, you had no hands or feet and 6 legs. You're still occupying the same basic reality as when you were a human, but the experience is so alien that you almost can't compare them. I can't even imagine what it's like to do DMT and lose all visual connection to reality, and have it replaced with an infinite tunnel of fractals.

Stop spouting your buddhist nonsense here. You haven't understood anything unless you've experienced insanity! And an alien god-mouse consciousness...

Alien mouse... Insanity...please make Videos! ! But maybe this is not mainstream enough so you could get some attack from all these non open minded people out there Can you tell if Joker in the Joker movie is also insane by your definition?

This is interesting. ime there are several other layers between the physical and raw awareness. Like with the etheric layer, which is almost physical, I could give myself a heart attack if I really tried. And most of the other layers are completely detached from the physical. In theory, there could be a soul layer which remains constant with every physical life. Why? Partly because it follows Tom Campbell's MBT's sound logic (and the whole IUOC model), but also because if we have complete freedom as God, then this is the only way we should choose to exist. Why would we choose to lose all our progress? Wouldn't it be more fun to have a soul that saves all our experiences and influences our identity? Now that may sound limiting, but I'm not suggesting you're a soul. What you are is God/awareness, and if we do have souls then they're no different to our physical bodies, i.e. temporary. And if you want a certain kind of life in a certain kind of place, then you can incarnate into a specific soul and a specific body. And there could even be oversouls, like you could maybe incarnate into the oversoul of an alien planet, or of Earth. Reality is a fractal, so this wouldn't at all surprise me. Maybe the psychic's just a troll, lol. Maybe it's one of the mods.

The psychic probably freaked out when they realized Leo's soul was not human or alien, but rather a mouse

There are contexts where it's alright, but this isn't really one of them. Most of the time it just sounds too formal, impersonal and objectifying. When used in day-to-day life it has this connotation of women being foreign and alien, at least in Western countries.

Make an offering The spirits demand an offering. Offerings increase presence. It’s an interpretation, a way in, at least. Perspective. Entertain them. . During third psychosis/mystical experience: The Sun - symbolised offering (meditation/Beauty) Stars - symbolised offering (meditation/Beauty) Music - symbolised offering (meditation/Beauty) Singing - symbolised offering (meditation/Beauty) Little dancer - symbolised offering (happiness) Flowers - symbolised blooming Puppy and owner - symbolises progress Baby/child and parent - symbolises progress Ants, planes, bees - symbolises work White birds, dragonflies- angels . Offerings (where I actually try for an extended length of time) firmly lock into place the spirit world. The spirits start talking to me. It might not be immediate but it happens. Spirit spoke to me through this song. It doesn’t feel human. Sky full of stars ”I have a dream “ the Sun the flowers, tulips specifically the people are alien This is another video that I manifested from meditation a few months ago, very similar to above. The beings in the above video seem alien to me as well. As you can see there are Tulips in the video. Just try I remember pacing up and down my bedroom, crying, panicking, as the smell of death/negative energy encroached into my bedroom, like thick tendrils around my body suffocating me, heating me up. I couldn’t breathe. I kept asking mooji for help but that was no help. Until it suddenly came to me to meditate. I had been trying every other method under the sun except meditation. But wait. I couldn’t meditate. My ability to meditate was shot. The panic set in again. I began channeling onto a piece of paper ‘ just try’ over and over and over and then started to meditate (quite abysmally) and the spirits surprisingly understood. The smell soon dissipated and was replaced with a beautiful unknown smell. If you cannot offer much due to poor health or otherwise the spirits are more than understanding in most circumstances. They only care about time, effort and that you have some capacity that they can invest in. The spirits know I’m somewhat disabled but have/had a gift and it colours our interactions.

@Kuba Powiertowski @Kuba Powiertowski looks more like part of the sky, a weather phenomenon (small formed cloud). This seems to be not a flying craft,or alien. It looks just natural. What about nazi complex Riese?

Not so much demonic but alien for sure. It's the most non-human of the psychedelics. And mercilessly so. It has no qualms raping your mind.

I'm liking it a lot. It's very immersive. And also, there's something satisfying in sticking your fingers and arms in wet alien holes

Just to note in advance before answering, I haven't watched the full episode yet you made but I plan on doing so when I can very soon, just to acknowledge that I am not yet fully aware of the scope of arguments you made in the video that this sub-forum thread is dedicated to discussing towards: Marx has actually addressed this perceived incongruity in his formulation of the theory of alienation of man from his natural essence of being of enjoying the fruits of his labour and generating value for the rest of his human community under a preposition that man is inherently, to sum it up the best I currently understood, remembered, could and was able, (regardless of any his peculiar qualifying or categorization characteristics) a conscious and free species being which he can't realize for the whole of his species under conditions of estranged labour as means of his continued individual life survival by living of his labour for the sake of his own surviving not for the sake of the enjoyment of the creative, generative process of labour for the rest of the human species and nature (it goes much beyond just the natural world defined as 'living'), as Marx defines it, I am paraphrasing, "nature is human beings inorganic body and life extension without which they can't exist or hope to have ever existed in the first place as conscious species- being with a freedom of will", which can't be possible to be achieved for the sake of all humanity as long as all value-generating and creative labour (which is essentially all labour in one form or another, since it changes fundamentally each time the conditions under which nature and life is being continually maintained and reproduced) serves as a mere means for the survival of life not the end of life in itself, because of it's estrangement through the externalization of it's fruits until they become foreign and alien to their original willful generator and creator in the first place with abstract compensations and extractions intended only for the attempt of it's full symbolical replacement of it's inherent genesis value and worth and the realization of it's end of man existing as free-will conscious species being instead under a repressive class-based and class-maintained production and reproduction material reality. Source: On Estranged Labour, Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844. Karl Marx.

Biggest problem with this, is the lack of evidence. According to his theory there are powerful elites and secret groups that are extremely powerful and powerful enough the hide all these things so much that there is not one tangible document or image or video evidence about any of these crafts or about these powerful tech or about any alien. So in one hand you have these extremely powerful groups and people that are able to keep all these things in secret, but these groups and elites are not powerful enough to prevent these narratives from coming out or from certain information leaking. So why is the case that information can be leaked in theory form but not in any image or video or document format? Also, how is that possible to keep these thing secret for so many years without anything tangible leaking? (We arent just talking about 10 or 20 years we are talking about probably 50-60+ years.)

@Leo Gura I watched both documentaries he put out. The thing they are claiming in them, especially in the second documentary (Above Top Secret - The Technology Behind Disclosure (2022) ) seems quite outlandish and conspiracy land. It would be something along the lines of: - We got and managed to reverse engineer these technologies 50+ years ago. - These disclosed UFOs, that the pentagon put out are US advanced craft. - It's basically Americans chasing covert Americans for the purpose of a slow-burn controlled show. - The idea is to slowly sell the idea to the people, that aliens are real and a threat. It's a psy-op. - In the very near future, a fake attack/s on earth might/will be staged using these tic-tacs that we have. - The idea is to unite earth against an alien threat while having all the power remain where it is. - 0-point energy and the 3 other technologies he is claiming to release are the bottoms of the barrel of what we have. - Even if the first one is released, it would mean that any energy businesses and industries will become almost obsolete, or at least the profitability will dramatically fall because of the free-energy, open source, and decentralized nature of these devices. If I allow myself to be temporarily conspiratorial. It makes good sense given what US presidents have stated, the great reset, smart cities, the new fact-checking media, the way covet organizations work, the fact that we are very good at staging fake scenarios in order to do conflict, plus historically we did them a lot, its the bread and butter of covert operations. Hard to say anything really, it sounds quite conspiratorial, yet quite possible. Anyway, it was interesting to hear about the first part of the story. I watched some channeling videos years ago, some of which had the "Grays" channeled, "they" said that it's not them who are doing these abductions, it's our people, and that we already have the tech. The narrative that our leadership is doing something to cover up and control this phenomenon is also quite prevalent in the channeling community.