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@DocWatts Sorry I meant the branch in area 51, the secret branch. And it doesn't mean that they completely understand the alien technology now, assuming they have tight controls against leak of information, but it's more realistic to slowly understand the thing. It took humanity thousands of years to understand that the earth revolves around the sun, it might be like that with alien tech. We might need advanced A.I devices ti help reverse engineer alien tech.

I'm willing to bet the government has to some degree reversed engineered some of the alien tech.

I know this sounds arrogant, but that's not what it is. When I am around people who haven't changed a bit for the last 20 years I get scared. I feel like an alien for being interested in self-improvement and for being the only one willing to do the work and I panic. Also when I see these people that are suffering for the same reasons as 20 years ago and still complaining about the same things, that just feels so depressing. It's like they've reduced themselves to a movie that's been stuck on replay for 20 years. To spend your WHOLE life as an unconscious automaton who never gained even 1 bit of consciousness. I can't stomach this tragedy and feel depressed for the whole day afterwards. How can I cope with stagnation?

Alien denial is an ideology that goes hand-in-hand with the intraparadigmatic attitudes of pop science (cynicism and rigidity). Maybe when Pope-o-science Neil daddy Tyson changes his mind, maybe then we'll see some changes in the collective consciousness of neopositivists ?

Or another possiblity is that aliens are here observing us, yet the vast majority of sightings are false positives. Both things can be true at the same time. Hell even if the alien hypothesis is eventually validated in some substantial way, that doesn't mean that every ambiguous sighting is credible, or that those weird lights in the sky that you saw in the sky weren't an optical illusion with a terrestrial explanation.

Only one possibility is alien And you really think thousands of people lied for 70 years (that includes the politics, police officers, and military) ? For what purpose ?

They can be earthly things, and hoaxes, and people can be lying, etc. You alien believers are acting like Jodistrict. A "sky quake" happens: "It must be aliens!" It's ridiculous. You think everything you don't know is a alien. Normal airplanes create sonic booms which can travel a long long way.

But that belief doesn't take you anywhere. There's no real meaning purpose or value behind it. Whether it's intelligently guided or not doesn't seem to matter in the sense that you don't know how many fingers I'm holding up behind my back or what the neighbor had for breakfast or what's happening at the Quickie Mart in Japan. The mind just incessantly goes in circles trying to figure THIS out and you end right back at THIS. If there is a discovery of other planets with habitable life-forms that's what's happening. If you discover there's a cosmic controller dictating everything that's what's happening. If you believe this is a computer program designed by complex alien species that's what's happening. Simply nothing matters absolutely nothing. It always ends up being just what it is. ❤

Yeah but i've also been on jets, and are familiar enough with them to place that object moving in a strait line at 30,000 feet in to a context that I can make sense of. Now who can say that they have anything approaching a comparable level of familiarity about something from another world made with alien tech?

I'd counter that the situation being analogous to the vast majority of people in the area where I live having zero experience with snakes, and being unable to differentiate a Black Mamba from a dozen other species of similar looking North American Snakes at a glance. Could a Black Mamba have somehow made its way from another continent to North America, or have escaped captivity? It's certainly possible. If a rumor of such was spreading about, I would expect quite a few false positives from people who have no particular expertise in the type of phenomena they're trying to identify. Likewise, do I trust that most ordinary people to correctly identify that the small blob in the sky is actually a UFO and not an optical illusion caused by something more conventional? Not so much. Just because I'm willing to give the guy who has flown jets for 18 years a lot more credibility when he speaks about a strange encounter he had, doesn't automatically extend credibility to every person who interprets a blob they saw in the sky as an alien. Or to put it another way: aliens might exist, but that doesn't mean that the vast majority of sightings aren't false positives.

I have a couple of guys that I'll be dating in the next few months. I don't want a relationship so I'll just be dating and going out with them. Dinners and everything. Of course I like to split the bill, it's a nice gesture if he pays, but I don't want my stuff to be paid for, so I'll pay for my own orders and things. He can pay his. If he takes me out, I'll let him know already that I'll be paying for my own things so I don't want his favors. I can be pretty egotistical when it comes to paying money for food or other things. I have never taken a single dime from my past boyfriends ever. I just don't want to. I don't want the whole "boyfriend paying for me" thing. I have never done it and will never do it. It goes against my pride. But I want to spend good time with guys and their company especially sweet guys. And in the past few months after my breakup, some guys approached me who were my old friends. One guy approached me at a coffee shop a month ago and he was a stranger and I gave him my number. He called me and texted me and I did not reply. I decided to reply yesterday and he instantly responded. Looks like he doesn't have a girlfriend. So I can be free to date him. I don't want a relationship yet. Because I am over it all for good. Yet I have still have attraction for men. And I would like to go out and spend time with different interested men. I don't even like to call them men, it sounds archaic, I will call them guys. I have an experience of 4 relationships under my belt. So i will use this experience to gauge men who are a proper fit with my mentality. I'm a sweet person so when it comes to chilling together, I'm no alien. I like guys a lot. I feel intense sexual attraction towards men that is guys.

That's a fair point, but the best that eyewitness testimony can do at this point (even when that comes from someone more qualified than most to speak about ariel phenomena) is demonstrate that there's something worth looking in to further using other empirical methods. Just saying that something is Alien in origin by a process of deduction still doesn't tell us what these things actually are, what they're doing here, if these are vehicles whether they're manned spacecraft or automated drones, etc. Also where they're coming from, what sort of technology these things possess, or whether or not whoever's controlling these things is actually interested in observing humans specifically. Are these craft intentionally trying to avoid detection? Or are legit sightings so incredibly rare that it just seems that way to us? Eyewitness testimony alone, even from the most credible source in the world, will never be able to tell us most of what we would want to know about these things (beyond thier mere existence). So yeah, saying that these objects warrant further study is Valid, even if their existence is already settled in your mind.

@Adamq8 Nice reference to Donald Hoffman. I enjoy his speeches. I think though that with many teachers, what makes the idea inaccessible to "hardnosed scientific" type people, is that they say experience only has correlation in physical matter in a way that makes it seem like they're implying physical matter has no bearing at all on experience. I don't think you need to deny the science of the external world or neuroscience etc. for nonduality to be true. In fact, because this "dream" (the universe) IS God, science is perhaps one of the most divine practices of all alongside meditation, as exploration of the science of this universe is very literally an exploration of God, since God IS it. I do not see any issue if the brain does in fact control what this "localized form" experiences. I do not see that it is any issue whatsoever or that it is contrary to nonduality in any way. Matter is made of consciousness, the brain is simply millions of years of evolution constructing a sort of superorganism where millions of points of experience work as one unit. There isn't a combination problem because the little points of experience don't vanish... The combination problem is like hypothesizing that animals like horses are just one single giant cell. In reality, it is millions of cells, none of the smaller cells vanish when they come together as that horse. Not only do I think it's possible, I think it is FACTUAL. I think most robots are conscious. Think of this... If there is a little robot vacuum cleaner, it moves around on wheels and has a laser sensor that detects when there is an object ahead so that it can turn. When that laser detects a wall and sends a signal to the robot's chip, it turns. Why? Because it is AWARE that there is a wall ahead. It has KNOWLEDGE that a wall is ahead. If there was zero awareness that a wall is ahead, it wouldn't turn it would just run straight into it because it doesn't know the wall is there. Because it is so alien to us this is almost impossible to understand, but I do not see how it could be any other way. By dictionary definition, that little robot is displaying an act of awareness. How could it not be? So inside that robot there is a localized form of consciousness. When the robot is turned off, the localization is no more, like a whirpool in a river (whirpools being localized in the stream) going away leaving just river. When our brains are turned off, the localization is no more. Consciousness and qualia all exist inside God which is "nothingness" and the "place" where things go when there is nothing to experience them like the example of red.

I'm not saying aliens are certain. I just assign it a fairly high probability given everything I understand about spirituality. See.... you are merely looking for direct evidence whereas I use a trans-human intelligence to interconnect 100s of different data points across dozens of different fields of study, many of which have nothing to do with UFOs or aliens at all. If you are operating from a stage Orange mindset you will not understand that depth of epistemic, metaphysical, and spiritual issues at work here. This goes way beyond the narrow confines of materialists science if these aliens are real. These aliens will be ridiculously conscious motherfuckers, beyond anything the human mind can fathom. Part of my life's work is to actually lay down an epistemic framework for how to understand alien minds, whenever they are encountered. They may not be encountered for a long time, but also, they might not visit us simply because they know we are too stupid to understand them. I don't expect any hardcore evidence to appear in the next 5 years. All you might get are more photos and videos of orb-like craft from very far away. You're not gonna get pictures of alien corpses or up close spaceships. All of that will be top classified if it exists. And it may not exist. Don't forget, the odds of humans being alone in this material universe are basically zero. I'm not even talking about other dimensions and so on.

Seems like you guys haven't even watched the video series about UFOs I linked on my blog. https://www.actualized.org/insights/new-york-post-ufo-series Of course it's not some definitive proof. but it builds a powerful case if you watch it all with an open mind. But again, those of you with closed minds shouldn't even watch it, because nothing can help you open your mind except an alien raping your in your sleep. The game your mind is playing is: any evidence you receive, you will rationalize away. You can lead a mule to water, but you can't make him drink.

What If I told you I saw an Alien coming out of an UFO and speaking in an Alien language ? Am I lying or do I need to get a selfie with him next time ?

@Leo Gura I again have to strongly disagree. Of course it is relative to each individual but that is the own interpretation of the individual to a universal experience. That is how each human being cognizes and assimilates a phenomena which is common to all beings (at least beings...) and I would even say that is a cosmic reality. The same an alien would have it's own bios and interpretation of the same phenomena of love and peace. Therefore, each individual will have it's own ideas about how to generate and sustain this states, but the underlying truth and experience is one and the same among all human, animals, plants, aliens... Each at it's own level of understanding, each one just understands what it can understand but the melody is the same. As different beings watching the same movie. One will get the plot, another wouldn't even understand the language but enjoyed the visual aspect of it, another is just thinking about other things... Yet the film is one and the same. So saying that each one has a different idea of the film is true, but the next assumption done that the film therefore must be different: is a big trap. The melody is the same, each one hears/listens what their ear can hear/listen. Is that love or lack of love? It's just the same thing but a more condensed and solid form of love. For what is true is that an individual who is already exuberant in love would not rape. So the fact is the same, is the interpretation of that film. How it thinks that he can get the same underlying truth that each one experiences, by his own understanding and means. It may be his idea of the film, but it is not The Film. So a society which encouraged the understanding of The Film and it's experience; while understanding the meta perspective about the whole game of the ideas about the film, would be the most optimal way to live. Please, I am talking about a much broad understanding of Tibet. So u pointed out that the main blindspot was survival. Yet we have a country whoose survival is brutal where pain, suffering and death was very very common. However, even before Buddhist era, since the shamanic way of live they already had deep compassion and love toward all the people that they had contact with. Instead of happening what u were saying, that survival need would make them lose it all; the opposite happened. So Tibet, has been and is a very clear example that even in the worst survival situations we can still create a good society. Was so the case that when buddhism arrived to tibet had such a great acceptance, because we could say in a way that they were buddhist before buddhism. Moreover, even in this extreme survival conditions a third of the population (just take a few moments to understand how much that is) became monks and lived with the bare minimum to substain it's life.

Or... Maybe Big Foot is real? There is a big difference between backwood rednecks confusing bears for Big Foot vs trained navy pilots telling you about alien craft. Of course not all UFO reports are valid. But it only takes 1. There is always noise in the data. That doesn't debunk the bottomline.

Because I'm an alien I'm much smarter than you and so I use reverse reverse psychology instead

If I was an alien I would use reverse psychology.

Wouldn't they argue against there being aliens if they want to keep it a secret though? Maybe they actually brainwash regular humans using heavy metals to force their brain into believing there are no aliens, giving them brain fog to make them ignore all the incredible alien evidence out there...

The number of report itself doesn't prove or disprove anything. Take big foot for instance: There definitely are UFOs (objects not identified) but none of the UFO sighting confirms them to be of alien nature. It's like you are trying to convince us that big foot is homosexual based on the amount of big foot reports there are. No matter how many UFOs we find it doesn't confirm it's aliens. Each individual case has it's own individual explanation. Even if there are aliens out there among the UFOs it wouldn't explain 100% of the UFOs. Most of the UFOs are debunkable (like the one you linked at the beginning of this thread). If you don't want to provide any extra evidence there's not much more to chat about here.

The military having top classified intelligence is no conspiracy theory. You have to see the military's view of this: they themselves don't know what to do about it. What are they supposed to do? They are damned if they do and damned if they don't. These military people are not equipped to deal with or to understand alien consciousnesses. It's not that the military is trying to fool you. They are just managing the situation as best as they know how (which is not very good). And they are looking out for your national defense. There is nothing sinister about this. It's just business as usual. Ironically it is you who believe in conspiracy theories when you take the position that tens of thousands of reported UFO sightings are all just hoaxes and delusions. Average people have no reason to lie about such things.

Seriously Leo.. Not you. You're supposed to be all about Truth and all that stuff. You're supposed to be smart. You're supposed to be the one who doesn't believe in conspiracy theories etc. Reality never fails to deliver disappointments. They come from all angles. It never ends. I just wish that you can feel that you can leave the alien rabbit hole whenever you want. That you are free to change beliefs in an instant. Please don't ban me. I just wanted to say this one thing. Good article. Thanks. Unbelievable..

Every major military has UFO sightings. It's just that the Chinese are not gonna tell you about it. They don't even tell you that Tianamen Square happened. And you expect them to tell you about alien weaponry? More Lolz.