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Leo, banning people and unmodding mods for rightfully holding you accountable and questioning your outrageous claims will not make the problem go away. You have conveniently been dodging the question that many are looking for the answer to: Where is the alien transformation video? You said that the biggest obstacle to producing the video was finding a camera that would record your face transforming into a colorful alien god. And what is the obstacle now?

I just finished the LP course a few days ago. I have been thinking about this moment for quite a while as I started this course more then 2 years ago. Not that I get all the missing answers here but maybe some advice from more experienced folks who are already living their LP. I am 25 now and I live in germany. I have got inattentive adhd which made many things very difficult for me like concentration, dealing with emotions and social problems which indirectly also made other things difficult like finding study partners or getting help with emotional distress difficult. So basically I was always an emotional mess/ overtaxed/ semi depressed while getting nothing done and not understanding what was wrong with me. As a result I had difficulties answering many questions in the life purpose course because I experienced relatively little concrete success so far because I couldnt really take part in life as much. I feel like I have got as close to it as what would be possible with my blockades but I feel like the very thing that is my LP is something I cant see right now. I take meds now and it seems like many things are clearing up rapidly but and I do make quite the transformation. I feel more capable but not necessarily upgraded. The stars become less interesting and I see more immediate tasks ahead. I become a lot more concrete instead of abstract. Thats the best way I can describe it. I seem to manifest myself in reality. I was always very reflected and stuff but was like a wave without its own will it can force onto the world. I develop a sense of self now. It sounds pretty unconscious I know and I made the point myself that adhd (at least the inattentive type that I experience) makes you more conscious. But in taking my meds I can deal with reality at least. If I got emotional support/ grounding maybe I could do it without meds but currently I can only do it this way. So this situation is quite confusing atm. In terms of my career so far: teaching: I am in 10th semester of studying math and philosophy for middle school but only have enough points to complete like 4 semesters (you need 10 semesters in total) because of the emotional distress I was always in. I could probably do better with the meds now so it really isnt hopeless. I decided to study teaching though because I did some internship to see what I like and teaching was okay for a moment and I couldnt deal with the pain of being in a situation of uncertainty so I did the best thing I found at the moment which wasn't the most conscious choice. Also there is a bit of buffer as with this graduation I can do other things as well. Teaching isnt directly my Life Purpose I am pretty sure about that. But I would earn a lot of money per hour, can do it part time, have a lot of holidays and a class in school gives you many direct information to observe which can inspire you. A school class is basically a mirror of society, all the kids are just mini versions of what's to come. So that can help me understand society and psychology more which would deepen whatever I create with my LP. I already thought a little and am also teaching 5 hours per week atm and it's an okay job. So it wouldnt be my LP but it would have a good base to comfortable pursue my real LP. acting: Over the last two years I have been doing a lot of acting as a hobby which is a lot of fun but it took a lot of time and I am also thinking about doing this as a career path. It would give me a relatively unstable base though and it would probably just miss my LP. Learning to act itself is incredible fun but it can also be emotionally challenging which I might not be capable to do. My Life Purpose is generally a bit unclear to me. Being a critical thinker is very much part of my authentic self and I have also got a very creative mind because of my adhd. On their own or even combined they dont really give me a life purpose that I find meaningful. For example I always think critically but I dont see where this practically leads to. And I often come up with new start up ideas because as I love the creative process but when it isnt connected to something meaningful I loose interest in it. The closest I could with these two is working on series like Rick&Morty which comes close to feeling like a LP. But I think there is a last component, a last value that is blocked from my mind. Besides these top two values I also care about empathy, goodness, authenticity, but not enough about any of them to make a LP in combination with the two about them I think. I sometimes look in my past to where the last puzzle piece might be. I developed a very profound even mystical happiness as a kid as I think that I had mystical experiences in kindergarden. I really vibed with Jesus in that time as well. I felt like it would virtually be impossible to break my spirit because I was connected to something unbreakable. I even felt like I needed to go through some real shit, to be lost, to come out of it and from that place be authentically able to help other people. I had a feeling of calling back then. Well I am not quite back to my inner garden of roses yet. I did about 20 trips of psychedelics and never realized a mystical experience because I was in too much shit mentally I think. (interestingly never had a really bad trip either though) I formulated my LP rather vague. I couldnt find any formulation that deeply inspired because as I said I think there is some authentic part of me missing. Taking my reflection about my past and moments of reflection I feel like it has to do with healing, bliss, profound love, existential (healing), spirituality. But I cant completely make out if these things interest me because I feel like I have a lack of them (negative motivation) or if it is authentic. To make my LP more concrete I could reformulate it like this for example (but I am not sure about it): - giving people blissful spiritual experiences to make them more loving and conscious. - finding existential beauty and meaning in fucked up situations to make people more hopeful So with all of this I have no clear direction of where to go and I found out new things about myself/ unblock blockades and this is probably going on for months and years to come. All ways would help me move forwards. If I study to become a teacher that would be an acceptable path which would allow me to do lots of other stuff (LP) I am interested in as well but then I could never study to become a serious actor because I would be too old at this point. I would need to become more clear about myself and my values to see what I value most. A side thought is also to experiment with start ups (for money) as I have lots of ideas for them. Right now I am thinking of continue studying while giving myself time to process and I can on the side apply to acting schools. Chances of getting accepted are pretty low anyways and if I get accepted that would be a sign that I am quite talented. Design ohne Titel.pdf

Look, everyone wondering why Leo refuses to admit his alien transformation error, it's very simple. Most people can say "I was in a state of grandiose delusion". But Leo cannot admit this to himself, therefore he cannot admit it to you. And he never will. You will never get an admission because: "'Grandiose delusion' is the two words that, said sincerely, collapse the idealized self into the despised self in one move — and the entire architecture exists to make those two words unsayable. So he says everything around them, forever, because the one thing the expansive solution cannot do is name itself." Underneath the grandiosity is precisely the terror of being ordinary, small, self-deceived — the average human who fools himself and can't tell. "I was in grandiose delusion" doesn't just lower him to average. It drops him straight into the despised self the entire construction exists to escape. It's not a step down; it's a fall through the trapdoor the whole edifice was built to cover." - Karen Horney, The Expansive solution (Neurosis and Human Growth: The Struggle Toward Self-Realization)

That's different from recording alien transformation. Sign me up! I'm all ears.

Ok it seems you can inject it. Chatgpt: Yes. In India, there was a historical connection between spirituality, alchemy, and preparations containing metals. The traditions most relevant here are Rasaśāstra and Rasāyana. Gold and other metals were repeatedly “purified,” ground, and heated through complex procedures. The resulting gold preparation is called Swarna or Suvarna Bhasma. It was taken orally in very small quantities, often with honey or ghee—not injected. One related practice is Swarna Prashana, which was traditionally associated with improved memory, intelligence, vitality, immunity, and longevity. The spiritual background sometimes went far beyond ordinary medicine. Certain Indian alchemical schools aimed to perfect or rejuvenate the body, or even create an enduring “divine body” that could support meditation, extraordinary abilities, and ultimately liberation. However, the most important alchemical substance in many of these traditions was usually mercury, not gold alone. The key distinction is: The goal was usually gradual physical and spiritual transformation, longevity, and mental clarity—not an immediate psychedelic or mystical “gold trip.” Modern studies have confirmed that some Swarna Bhasma preparations contain very small or nanostructured gold particles, and that gold can sometimes be detected in the body after oral use. However, this does not prove that it improves the nervous system, intelligence, cognition, or spiritual awareness. Current clinical evidence is insufficient to establish such effects reliably. “Traditionally prepared” also does not automatically mean safe. The composition and quality of these products can vary significantly, and some Ayurvedic products have contained harmful amounts of lead, mercury, or arsenic. There is no well-documented Indian spiritual tradition of injecting gold.

@Olaf Good self observations you made! You noticed the dividend it payed back in terms of energy. More conscious awareness,,, Higher degree of being,,, Understanding human behavior better @UpperMaster Excellent commentary and to the point. A trap many people fall into, not to mention actualizers of denying their own negative feelings. Repression grows the shadow. In the fourth way work this is called the second conscious shock. Turning a negative experience into a positive one. Usually accomplished in part by "holding one's tongue", as the saying goes. I'll give an example that happened in my past. I was trading into a new Subaru. When the salesman told me the offer on my old Hyundai. The adrenaline hit. I was angry and he could see it. I hadn't said anything yet and was stewing,,,, As is said in the Work, It was hot in the kitchen! After several seconds had passed. He said, "Please, we shouldn't have to become antagonistic in what we're trying to accomplish". With what he said. It made me see myself and the ridiculous way that I could have spoken something in anger that would have knocked a lot of energy out of me. If you can kind of read into that situation,,, I actually smiled and later on, complemented him for how he handled my potential anger on hearing their offer for my trade in. Speaking in anger is so easy to do and so difficult to not do. To not deny one's feelings but to not let the passion of anger turn one into an "unguided projectile" or an "unguided Golum" as one of my favorite Fourth Way teachers says. some notes- Like Dislike Understanding the Second Conscious Shock in the Fourth Way In the Fourth Way teachings of P.D. Ouspensky, the first and second conscious shocks are key moments in the process of self-remembering and transformation. They are not random events but intentional, often difficult experiences designed to break habitual patterns and force awareness. What the Second Conscious Shock Is The second conscious shock typically follows the first conscious shock, which is the moment of sudden realization that you are acting mechanically or out of habit. The second shock is the experience of defeat or the tension between desire and inevitability — the moment when you confront the reality of your own mechanicalness and the lack of proper energy fourthwaytoday.org. It is often described as: A tension between the fire of your desire to remain present and the chill of the inevitable fall into old patterns fourthwaytoday.org. A sacred direction in the octave of development, where the process of defeat becomes a catalyst for transformation fourthwaytoday.org. A psychic death experience — the “life” of your habitual self is temporarily extinguished, creating a flatness or stillness that is not dullness, but a deep sense of peace and “all-rightness” gurdjiefflegacy.org. How It Works with the First Shock Ouspensky explains that the first shock is the recognition of mechanicalness; the second shock is the confrontation with the consequences of that mechanicalness. Together, they form a synergy — the first shock creates the awareness, the second shock deepens the transformation YouTube. The second shock is not just about discomfort; it is about sacred direction — a moment when the process of defeat aligns with a higher purpose, leading to a shift in energy and awareness fourthwaytoday.org. Purpose and Outcome The second conscious shock: Breaks habitual patterns by forcing a confrontation with the self. Evokes transformation rather than just resistance. Aligns the self with higher functions by moving beyond mechanical reaction into conscious, intentional action. Can lead to a stable, inner peace and a deeper understanding of the temporal and eternal aspects of life gurdjiefflegacy.org. Practical Context In Gurdjieff’s groups, such shocks might be triggered by: Sudden commands (“Stop!”) that interrupt habitual movement to-be-able.blogspot.com. Intentional labor or discomfort that forces presence to-be-able.blogspot.com. Moments of self-observation where you realize you are acting without awareness gurdjiefflegacy.org. The goal is to stop the expression of negative emotions and to change attitudes so that the shock becomes a stepping stone toward higher consciousness SelfDefinition.Org. In short: The second conscious shock is the moment when the realization of mechanicalness meets the reality of its consequences, creating a transformative “defeat” that, when integrated, moves you toward higher states of being in the Fourth Way.

This is my last reply in this clusterfuck thread and I wont waste any more time on this. So allegedly some people here have big issues with closed-mindedness and with someone not using proper learning frames (because "lessons will be lost on them," because "they are not open enough"). I want these people to present a definition of closed-mindedness to the readers under which they can establish that Leo isn't closed-minded (but me and Carl are). If they can't do that, then I will take it that none of them really care about any of their listed norms in a principled way, and that it is just empty mini-Leo rhetoric on their part. Present a definition of closed-mindedness, under which a guy who has repeatedly claimed to be the most awake being in the universe, has repeatedly claimed that no one else knows what they are talking about, claimed that he is the standard of epistemology, claimed that he has little to nothing to learn from humans anymore (with regard to spirituality), and who stops 99% of his debates with "you don't know what you are talking about" and then frequently refuses to elaborate; and a guy who wants to dictate what definition of cult ought to be used by everyone; and a guy who has made multiple inferentially justified, highly confident statements about alternative spiritual pathways (like what certain forms of meditation or yoga can do for you or get you to, even though he hasn't seriously practiced them for multiple decades); and a guy who explicitly stated that he can't be wrong about being the most awake being on the planet <--- that this guy isn't closed-minded, and that this guy is inside a proper learning frame (in which he can learn new things and correct false beliefs); but a guy who gives detailed arguments about why he thinks the way he does, who qualifies most of his statements, and who immediately acknowledges epistemic limitations and clarifies how he can be wrong <--- that this guy is the closed-minded guy, and that this guy isn't inside a proper learning frame. [ It's very transparent that none of you seriously care about any of these norms. These norms and mini-Leo ticks (where you use one-word catchphrases like "closed-minded" to derail conversations) are exclusively used to enforce Leo's dogmas and none of them are used in a serious, principled way. The moment you would need to apply these norms to Leo, that's the moment when all of you suddenly stop caring about them. ] ------------------------------------------------------- Some people here have been dead silent about a lot of things, and it's clear to me that Aurum is only interested in highly selectively engaging with arguments. So here is Leo's alien transformation failure spelled out again, since most of you guys extremely conveniently ignored it last time. By the way, do you guys know how your trusted guy responded to @UnbornTao's "Where is the video, Leo?" question? He said, "I'm not going to bend over backwards over your closed-mindedness." <---- Even though he created the enforcing "bullshit" standard for himself. That's your Tier 2, epistemically responsible guy, who is true to his own standards and words, who can own up to things, and who won't discourage you from holding him accountable using the standard that he created for himself (perfectly describes a guy, who cares a lot about not creating or contributing to cult-like dynamics, right?). Aurum - I dont see you holding Leo accountable , but I see you a lot throwing around the label of "closed-mindedness" towards people who do want to hold Leo accountable. Your only way out this is to claim that you didnt know that Leo claimed these things about the alien transformation thing - but in that case , that just shows your very low level engagement with the arguments here (where you come in here with big wide shoulders and throw the "closed-mindedness" label and implication around without having any fucking clue about the relevant context some of the Leo critiques target). And this is just one of the points you failed to engage with, I gave you a lot more than just this, and I left other effort posts here with a lot of links and - but it is very clear at this point that you only highly selectively want to engage with things and you are disinterested in actually reading through the posts and the links in detail before you chime in with your quick uninformed emotionally baiting comments on things. Let's correct that. He doesn't just think highly of his awakening; he thinks the highest of himself while degrading everyone else. To this day, he still makes childlike comparative judgments like "I'm stronger than you, and you guys are weak as shit compared to me," about every other being in the universe. And yes, that claim is extremely unwarranted on his part. He is pretentiously using extremely weak inferential judgments, and that's supposed to be his "justification" for claiming that he is the most awake. He has no fucking data or direct access to who has what level of awakening. And even if he had direct access to the content of the awakenings of every other being in the universe (and to the awakenings of every being who has ever lived), he would still need to presuppose his own circularly justified notion and norm of what "being the most awake" even means. So: 1) Let's not pretend that he has any substantive reply to any of these problems, and lets not pretend that his claim has any serious leg to stand on, or that he carefully and rigorously worked through all of this before vomited out his pretentious statements. 2) Let's also not pretend that you would ever entertain this kind of reasoning from any teacher other than Leo. You conceded that it is an inferential comparative judgment, so it is subject to being wrong. Yet I haven't seen you once press Leo on his credence with respect to that claim. I haven't seen you once press him on why he makes comparative judgments in the first place, and I haven't seen you once question what purpose those explicit comparative and degrading judgments serve. I guess all of this is also included in your "trust" in Leo, along with his infinitely delayed alien transformation-on-camera claim and his healing claims. (Before you make your usual thought-terminating "you're closed-minded" move again, I'll qualify my position once more: the argument does not rest on the premise that these things must be impossible. The argument is about adjusting credence based on evidence and owning up to failure—and failing should obviously lower your credence in such claims.) My original example had a lot to do with ethics, but you couldn't engage with that, so you went with your own modified version instead. You also had a very hard time entertaining the idea that there is no contradiction in someone agreeing with Leo on all of his spiritual takes while also having issues with some of Leo's teaching methods and behavior. But in any case, the argument that "I have seen him make awakening claims, and I managed to verify some of those claims. Therefore, the more I manage to verify, the more I'm going to trust that his other awakening claims (that I haven't yet verified) are true as well" could work. But your special privileging of Leo and your dead silence about his failures and about some of his behavior go beyond any reasonable notion of trust you can appeal to. Leo hasn't demonstrated a single empirically verifiable miracle yet, so you have zero reason to trust him on miracle claims. And yet, you have been dead silent about his failure to produce the alien transformation on camera and about his healing claims. It doesn't matter how many of his awakening claims you managed to verify, because there is no straightforward bridge from that to his empirical claims. It would be like taking some verifiable facts from the Bible (for example, that Jesus existed) and then pretending that it is therefore reasonable to infer and trust that every other fantastical claim presented in the Bible is likely true as well (such as the miracle claims surrounding Jesus or the claim that Jesus is the Son of God). Given your trust standard, the exact same "I'm just trusting my teacher" argument can be made by many other people whom you would negatively label as "blindly putting their teacher on a pedestal and taking certain claims to be true from their teacher without verifying them first." Buddhist and nondual students can use the exact same argument: "Im going to trust my teacher's w,z claims, because I managed to verify that his x,y claims were true." So I guess, all of the students who managed to verify some of the things their teacher told them are justified (by your standards) in giving special privilege to their teachers as well. And I'm sure you won't put any negative label on them for it, and I'm sure you won't reassure Leo about how these supposedly low-consciousness, cognitively undeveloped, conformist individuals are lost and not doing proper spiritual work. I thought this was supposed to be about "doing the work" (like using the suggested methods) and not about special-privileging your teacher's explicit propositions and dogmas, or about maintaining some kind of polished, special image of your teacher. But again, this is nothing more than empty virtue-signaling on your part. You don't seriously care about these standards and norms, because you make your own judgments about other teachers, and you are perfectly fine with being closed off, labeling them with a bunch of negative labels, and special-privileging Leo - even though you haven't gone through their exact methods for their exact suggested timelines. (you havent done half a century worth of meditations or yoga work and yet you are perfectly okay with placing your bets and with judging those methods and the efficacy of those methods and the efficacy of other teachers). And the exact same shit applies to Leo as well, but you will never, ever publicly assert to have an issue with Leo being 100% confident in his stance and with him being 100% closed off to all other teachers, despite the fact that he has only directly practiced a fraction of a fraction of other teachers' methods (for a fraction of a fraction of their suggested timelines) Yes, that's why debate won't resolve this. One of us is just going to be mistaken. "One of you is going to be mistaken," but the moment I present you with similar epistemic challenges, you suddenly categorize them as "me trying to gaslight you with nonsense," even though it's clear that you have no substantive reply to those epistemic challenges. Yet you are still perfectly confident that you are right and that Leo is right, and you talk down to everyone who disagrees with you from your pretentious high horse, even though the exact same "I've personally verified claims x, y, and z relative to a different body of work" argument is equally applicable to many other people. Neither you nor Leo has any substantive response to underdetermination issues, and neither of you arrived at your position by carefully and exhaustively ruling out all alternative options. Yet both of you pretentiously act as though you have some kind of high horse to ride and some kind of special epistemic leg to stand on. You and Leo both refuse to acknowledge your epistemic limitations, and instead you play the "I'm absolutely certain in my position" game. Then, whenever someone challenges that certainty, both of you dismiss it as "gaslighting."

@Someone here i dont expect leo to honestly engage or answer any of those questions. He is a master at being a weasel. This was to demonstrate to others how Leo refuse to walk back claims and refuse to change his credence on claims and refuse utilize more epistemic humility given that he failed to deliver on the alien claim. Its cool that you suddenly recognize now that harsh rhetoric isnt effective and isnt good (when its used against Leo), but you very rarely had to bring this up when Leo used this kind of rhetoric against other people. Maybe I should have used the "you dont know what you are talking about" , and "im more awake than you" and "im the standard on epistemology" as a response and then my rhetoric would have been more acceptable. This point about the alien transformation has been brought up multiple times now. Do you know what Leo's last response to this question was? He told unborntao, "I won't bend over backwards over your closed-mindedness." So that's how he clarifies things and owns up to things. Again, to be super clear on this: he created the standard for himself. He said that a camera should be able to record his transformation, and when someone asks him about it, they are the bad guy(the closed-minded one) for asking for it. How is that not enforcing cult-like dynamics, where he can freely make any bullshit claim and, when held accountable for it, infinitely gaslight you into believing that you are the bad guy for holding him accountable for the very thing that he explicitly told you to hold him accountable for?

I honestly have no idea what happened with his claim that he would demonstrate an alien transformation on camera. Only Leo knows what actually happened.. unfortunately he still hasn’t clarified it..but instead he’s offered excuses that avoid addressing the obvious possibility that it was another psychedelic experience he misinterpreted As @UnbornTao suggests. That said..this is exactly why I don’t see the value in aggressively attacking him. People make mistakes. Humans get things wrong.If he’s mistaken then criticize the claim..point out the inconsistencies..and move on. What I don’t understand is the endless hostile rants. They accomplish nothing. They don’t help us..they don’t help Leo and they don’t bring anyone closer to the truth. All they do is fuel ego battles between keyboard warriors and deepen the divide instead of creating any chance for understanding or meaningful discussion. If the goal is understanding each others then criticism should be rational and polite .If the goal is just to vent outrage and score points..that’s a different conversation. And stop calling me a Leo fanboy . It’s not like I hang out with him everyday ..I just watch him on a screen .

You do not understand your own claims, since you couldn't deliver on any of them. To be extremely clear on this, you haven't delivered once on your miracle claims or your alien transformation claim, and you still refuse to adjust your claims or your credence regarding those claims. You pretend to know much more than you actually do. If you knew how this shit worked, you would have already delivered on your claims and wouldn't just talk big with 0 results after years of failure. The only thing we have seen so far from you is you talking grandiose about yourself, you making excuses and delivering 0 empirical results with respect to your empirical claims. But sure, sure—we are the ones who don't know what we are talking about, while you do. That's why, once again, you haven't demonstrated shit yet. I guess we are in the infinitely "sit tight" period and you are in the "I will make infinite excuses why I cant deliver on my own claims and I will infinitely weasel my way out of my own standards" period, right? Anything but having the spine and the epistemic responsibility to own up to your own claims and to your own standards. The camera was the issue and not your lack of understanding of how reality works, right?

Oh my god, they're trying to push it off onto banks now(government insured) we're FUCKED If you thought trump corruption was bad "We are in, you know, a global transformation like we probably have never seen before," BlackRock's Jean Boivin said Tuesday in a Bloomberg Television interview. "The world will have to leverage up as a result. Leveraging up comes with risk that would need to be managed, but there's no real alternative to really build out the AI or the global infrastructure that are needed to get to a place where we're going to require more funding" "Private credit is poised to take on an even bigger role in financing the "massive amount of infrastructure investment" for artificial intelligence as companies look for capital to fund outsized expenditures, according to the head of BlackRock Inc.'s research arm." https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/blackrock-sees-private-credit-taking-172100680.html "BlackRock reduces AI exposure amid sector volatility: CNBC 2 days ago — BlackRock's Rick Rieder has announced a strategic shift, reducing and rebalancing exposure to companies heavily linked with artific" https://cryptobriefing.com/blackrock-reduces-ai-exposure-amid-sector-volatility-cnbc/ BlackRock is who I consider to be the engine behind the global AI push and they're backing off. They have about $2T invested in AI related businesses, about half of AI industry is related to BlackRock investments.

The narcissism critique, the "he is narcissistic" critique, the "lack of integrity" critique, and the "you shouldn't bring attention to the idea or declare yourself to be more awake than every other being in the universe" critique do not rely on the premise that Leo is not the most awake being in the universe. You can go back and read my previous posts. I provided numerous links throughout this thread documenting the behavior I consider problematic. Feel free to actually go through those examples, respond to them individually and/or comprehensively, and provide an explanation that makes them no longer problematic while still preserving your view that Leo has integrity and that his commitment to teaching is more important than preserving his special image. You can criticize the morals, judgment, rhetoric, or behavior of a spiritual teacher without assuming that their spiritual realization is false. These are separate questions.(unless you want to make a weird move, where you want to collapse that seperation, and where you want to imply that every instance of bad behavior was necessary (that it was the optimal strategy for accomplishing Leo's teaching goals and that only Leo possesses the special knowledge required to understand why behaving that way was both necessary and beneficial). Lets suppose, for the sake of argument, that Leo actually is the most awake being in the universe. Lets also suppose that he genuinely possesses special abilities that allow him to know (with absolute certainty) the level of awakening of every conscious being in existence. Even if I grant all of that, the criticism still stands: You can be the most awake being in the universe and still choose not to repeatedly create threads declaring that you are the most awake being in the universe while explicitly undermining everyone else's cognition. If the stated purpose of this work is helping people awaken, making them more sovereign, encouraging independent realization, and emphasizing that people should "do the work," then repeatedly redirecting attention toward yourself and your own exceptional status is obviously counterproductive. A Tier 2 guy who is the most awake being in the universe and can telepathically (with certainty) perfectly read everyone's level of awakening somehow failed to recognize how ineffective his "I'm the most awake being in the universe for the 1000th time, and everyone else is a fucking spiritual rat and should be beaten with a crowbar" rhetoric is (even though multiple people have given him very clear negative feedback about it) - Especially, again, if his main goal is to teach us, keep us receptive, help us awaken, and make us more sovereign. If his primary objective is teaching, , helping people awaken, and increasing their sovereignty, then it is very weird why he continued using rhetoric that many of us repeatedly clarified was producing a negative effect. Again, notice that this criticism does not depend on the claim that he is not the most awake being in the universe. His rhetoric is problematic (regardless whether he is the most awake or not) : because of how it comes across; because Leo would never grant comparable claims if they would came from someone else; because many members of his own audience have repeatedly made it clear that this rhetoric makes them significantly less receptive; and because it predictably creates cult dynamics that undermine the very goals he claims to value (especially again if you combine that specialty claim with undermining the cognition of disagreers). More specifically: It undermines people's sovereignty. It encourages exceptional trust in Leo's authority. It encourages people to become increasingly dependent on him while simultaneously distrusting every other spiritual teacher, because all of them supposedly belong to the category of "they don't know what they're talking about." It also encourages people to distrust their own judgment and discernment (If the claim is that every single advanced spiritual teacher in history failed to reach Leo's level of realization, and if no one else truly understands consciousness, then why would anyone on this forum ever trust their own discernment?) And no, the reply that "every other spiritual community has the exact same problems" does not work - because not every other spiritual community has a leader who claims to be more awake than everyone else in the universe , not every spiritual leader undermines the cognition of every single student every singe time when there is a disagreement ,not every spiritual community is set up in a way where your progress can only be evaluated by the leader (again, the "you can validate everything for yourself" doesnt work in practice, because if you do the work and disagree on things, then that can only mean that you havent done enough work and there is no possible scenario under which you can do enough work and disagree with Leo on spirituality - the "did enough" standard can only be called by Leo and there isn't any independent standard from Leo's judgement. ). Now, let's temporarily stop assuming those two premises: (That Leo is the most awake being in the universe and that Leo can flawlessly determine everyone else's level of awakening.) And lets challenge the implication that the reasonable default position is simply to grant those premises until someone can disprove them with absolute certainty. Lets be clear and honest here - Neither you nor Leo would ever consistently apply that standard. Imagine someone else making exactly the same argument to you.: Imagine a scenario where a teacher behaved in ways you considered manipulative or morally questionable. And then one of the teacher's follower told you: "The reasonable thing is to simply assume this behavior is necessary because this person is the most spiritually advanced being in existence. He understands the effects of his rhetoric better than anyone else, so you should trust the process, regardless of how much negative feedback his students express." In what world would you ever accept an implication or response like that? Now, If your response is something like "Of course I would grant that someone other than Leo could be the most awake being in the universe." Okay. then let's check how serious you are about that. Grant that special priviledge to me (After all, you cannot be absolutely certain that I am not the most awake being in the universe, right? - And thats the standard you are asking everyone else to adopt) So, from this point forward, assume that I am more knowledgeable than you: Assume I am the ultimate authority on epistemology. Assume that whenever we disagree (about spirituality, definitions of cults) that I am correct by default and that everyone ought to use the definition of cult that I provided Do not rely on the possibility that I might be mistaken (because again, the reasonable move is to grant those things to me, because if you dont then you are closed-minded or not ready for this advanced work). And from now on, you need to accept all of my rhetoric and behavior because you don't yet understand how this is going to be beneficial for you and everyone else. You can validate everything that I say, but you need to keep in mind that, as long as we disagree about anything I care about, that that will automatically mean that you are wrong and that you need to do more work. This is because sufficient validation is analytically defined as you agreeing with me on all the things I care about, and there is no standard outside of me that can tell you when you have done enough and proper work. (So, let me take on that role and be an absolute authority on what "enough work" and "enough validation" means - actually let me contradict myself since this work is paradoxical and say that there is a standard that is technically outside of me - this is the standard: Keep doing the work until the point where you agree with me perfectly on everything I care about. Until then, any disagreement simply indicates that you have more work to do) if you acknowledge that all of that shit is completely unreasonable and you can entertain for a moment that Leo is not necessarily that special or infallible as he trie to pretend to be - then we can begin discussing Leo's epistemology. Explain: Why is there no video demonstrating the alien transformation that Leo repeatedly claimed he both could and would perform on camera? (Also - Why, when confronted about failing to deliver on that prediction, was his response dismissive rather than reflective ( where he acknowledge that he was wrong or at the very least acknowledge that he failed to deliver on that claim)? Why has there never been any healing miracle done by Leo ? How do you explain the repeated situations in which Leo denies making statements that he demonstrably made, even after evidence is presented? (One example that illustrates [this was one of my interaction with him] , you can search for my post related to this, its in this thread and I provided relevant links there) This was the situation: Leo said : "I never claimed that I can't be wrong." I then presented him with a post where he wrote: "I can be full of shit, but not on this." His response then shifted from: "I never claimed X." to "Just because I claimed X doesn't mean X is true." (Those are entirely different propositions - The first concerns whether the claim was ever made and the second concerns whether the content of the claim was correct) This is a sneaky and spineless shift in the discussion so that he doesnt need to take responsibility when he is cornered. He then ended with one of the most manipulative moves, when he uttered (paraphrased): "I cannot ultimately be wrong because I once uttered the claim that self-deception is endless. Therefore, if I turn out to be wrong about something, that will just confirm my broader claim that self-deception is endless." - Given this logic, you can't be held accountable for any false or incorrect claim, because you can always pivot back to, "But I already told you that self-deception is endless."

Yeah, and given how some people reacted to your question in that thread, that was also interesting. Leo backed himself into a corner by creating a standard by which he can be held accountable (specifically related to that point), and it's clear that he doesn't give the slightest fuck about it and will imply that you're wrong for even attempting to hold him to his own words. Hours and hours of ramblings about epistemology, integrity, maturity, self-deception, epistemic responsibility, and how scientists fall into the trap of infinitely delaying paradigm change—and then, when shit hits the fan, he can't embody or live by anything that he preaches about. " I'm Leo. I made some claims in the past, and I created a standard for myself. Now, should I acknowledge that I was wrong, or at the very least lower my credence in the belief that I can undergo such a transformation after years of failure? Naaah, let me choose the other option,where I label UnbornTao closed-minded for holding me to my own words, and then call it a day (like a mature, epistemically responsible, non-manipulative, 'truth is my highest virtue and value' guy). " Some people here did not pick up on the significance of Leo's reaction to your question. His reaction shows that he doesn't have the spine or the integrity to acknowledge failure and be responsible for his own standards and his own word (especially when it comes to things he cares about - like maintaining a special identity). His reaction to your question simultaneously targets and undermines his epistemology, integrity, and his alleged deep care about what's true.

@UnbornTao - look what Leo said about how to hold him accountable (related to his alien transformation claim): I guess your main error here was forgetting that we're indefinitely stuck in the "sit tight" period .

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Second Attempt (editing while I have only a sentence or two of thought) So, I spent time writing my first post entry, and when I went to post submit there was a little mishap. Technically Fortunately I went through the experience already, so it should benefits me us now. because I went through the experience and learned how I'm going to attempt I have a better idea of how-to setup my Journal. I also found better clarity on what I want to attempt. Communication is my focus here. I now understand that the chaotic manner my mind talks to itself, may seem chaotic to others. I'm used to it though, so it's not necessarily chaotic a beautiful chaos to me. Being able to allow myself to express Freely expressing my thoughts will allows me to purge. my thoughts, and then I'll be able to gain clarity with my communication with others. When I write my personal journals, I don't take the time or effort to edit my words. This however is a public journal and I want to be an effective communicator. I know I need more consciousness in But since I'm developing my this skills to communicate with the collective, I find I'm not as effective as I would like. I have a message I want to share, but and I want to be understood. So, you we are going to get a visual of how I'm editing my free flow to communicate and "the struggle" I'm going to experiencing as I find a way to present my a concise message with clarity. I am not going to erase my words as I type. I will strikethrough the words or and letters I want to delete. I'm using the Blue will indicate for the changes I've made from after my original thought. This is a new process for me, so I'm open to make changes modifications. I don't know how I'm going to present this process accurately. This is becoming tedious work, but I know I'm going to gain huge benefits massive rewards will be the price. Currently communication is important principal for me currently. I want to place My ramblings to will be on this right side. When I want to begin sharing my message with the collective in my version of a concise manner, I believe I will use the other left side. Now I'm using my dad's computer to type right now. It's making sense to me Using this large format it makes sense to use the different sides. I'm uncertain how this will be perceived on a mobile device. I will place the words in italics with the polished version on the left side maybe. I guess hope people will tell me whether I need to find a different approach or not. Because people are have different temperaments, people they will have a choice. If they are just interested in my final submission, then they can stick to the polished version on the left. whether they want to only read my message or If they are interested how want to listen to my process works along with my message, they can choose to read it all too. Again, I'd like to mention repeat that I already had a first attempt to post my Journal, but most of my work was deleted. For a second I was shocked. I couldn't find a way to recover it. With my experience though, I knew this wasn't luck; it was deliberate. Even though this may seem chaotic, it makes better sense. I guess I had to have more of choose a direction of how I wanted to present my Journal. I did however save some sections of my work onto another document. I know the value of transparency and vulnerability. Without these qualities my growth will be stunted. So I'm going to share those thoughts I was able to save. Let's see how we can incorporate them into the dialogue here. I'm going to paste the entire text and then I thought maybe we can I would just select a portion and discuss, but after reading it again I think it's best to just copy and paste the entire my attempt to of expression. At this stage I was about to start continue editing more, but then I realized I need to find a way to show "the process struggle" of the work. (I'm wondering if I should edit directly onto the pasted message or do something different. Hmmm... I'm in no hurry to rush through the process so I'm going to give us a break in struggling to read with the strikeouts and change of colors above.) First Attempt Inserted (I allowed myself longer periods of thought before I started editing, but I didn't effectively show how much wor all of the changes I was making). Well, here I start, but where to start? I don't have the answer, but I trust that wherever I'll start I’ll begin to have a better understanding. Eight days ago, I found myself logging into this Forum for the first time. I’ve been involved with Actualized for a solid six years and gained so many benefits. Now I find myself trying out their Forum (or any forum for that matter). Intuitively there's an opportunity for massive growth here. I've been contemplating how I want to approach my involvement here. I find that I’m uncertain how to proceed. If I allow myself to process openly, I'll realize if there's value or not for myself. The Journal maybe the most beneficial (I don't know). When I first was posting, the bulk of my words were a preamble of my past. Is that necessary though? (It depends on who's engaging I suppose). I assume others are similar to myself. Countless times it's been apparent and proven that it's not the case so far. Why do I continue to assume? Well, it's not like I am absolutely ignorant that others aren't in the same state in any given situation. That's why I love life because of the variety and complexity including others. I find myself with a substantial taste for curiosity, and it's hungry. For me now, it's obvious to direct a large part of my focus on communication. I want clear and in-depth communication whether the use of words is in abundance or in brevity. Conciseness is where my direct experience needs work. To simplify we can break down communication into brevity and depth conversations. Admittedly, in any given situation I would prefer to choose which is the appropriate approach. I have tendencies to want to mostly go in-depth, but at times brevity is preferable. If I want that choice for myself, I can respect others who want to choose as well. The Journal can allow for considerable amounts of content that I consider a depth communication. Give an impression of the transformation of who I was to now, and even into my ideas of future. Building a sense of confidence that I'm someone who has been embodying higher levels of consciousness because of the abundance and diversity of my direct experiences. Existentially I can ask whether there are really levels of consciousness. I'm inserted into the center of infinitude, and yet I experience progression. Is it only because I want to experience what it's like to learn? When it comes to brevity communication it seems more plausible to use in the Forum, comparatively from the Journal. I have to remind myself that brevity conversations don't have to be without depth. Since my focus is on communication, I want to develop this skill more consciously. I've focused on integrity and I'm honest with myself and others when I don't know something or not interested at this point. I feel people who are more geared to hear history and more content will be drawn to a journal setting. Others will be geared towards simple and short communications. The majority of responses I read are mainly a sentence or two... lol. I'm asking myself what are they really trying to say. I've been developing a better understanding of creating balance with energy exchange. I find that I've been free with my energy and attention in the past, but as I gain more consciousness it's best to see where the person's energy is and then respond accordingly. I exhaust my energy because I was unaware, and it's obvious for me to notice I need to be more conscious. My first posts I found myself going right back to freely sharing but quickly noticed I was repeating my conditioning. Since I want to engage with others here, I feel if I can create a journal where I can open my energy freely... that that part of my conditioning can get an outlet at least. Maybe others can gain value of reading my process which give me value. Ultimately, it should in theory allow me to respond in a concise manner when communicating with the public. Communication skills is one domain that continues to develop, and it's been obvious to focus more attention now. A story I repeat is I'm a rambler which makes it hard for others to follow and I want to develop my articulation. I want it to be easier to communicate with clarity. I've been constantly editing. I'm searching for new words which seem to be more fitting to use instead of the common words I'm used to using which might not be as effective. I'm restructuring where to group my sentences that are on similar topics instead of bouncing back and forth. (Rollercoasters are fun and all, but at least they have a track that implies a direction to follow). I don't know how many run-on sentences I've had to narrow down. Deleting sentences because repetition is found everywhere. And noticing how many times the word "I" is used is a bit annoying... lol. Verbal work is one of those things in the back of my mind that I want to do but hadn't allowed opportunity to advance it until now it seems. Another story I repeat is that my language is more subtle, and I communicate and understand better with nonverbal language. I know if I created a hierarchy of my comfort level of communication with others it would be ideally to talk to a person face to face, then video chat, on to the phone, and finally a texting situation. Well... this Forum is a setting for using verbal language. I have a desire to connect with the collective. So let's give it a go here with this journal. (Is there a way to combine the two styles of editing? I really like how I can have longer periods of thought. That creates more of flow state for me. But I also want to be accurate to the editing process I have to do. There's so much more I'm unable to show like my spelling and grammar errors). Ok... it looks as if I need more time to figure out consider how to move forward. I know what I want to say, but adding the additional conversations about my This is going to be very valuable for me. I need to see I'll figure out how I can show share express my thoughts to the public, share my thoughts to myself, show my message drafts, demonstrate my edits in my drafts, and then create a polished message. I have to admit I have already tried to create a visual difference contrast to show these different areas, but I was unsuccessful so far. I posted a Help topic on the Forum to learn how to use the "insert existing attachment." and I probably need to allow more time for someone to help respond. I even thought I could insert basic html to possibly highlight the words with different colors. That's still a possibility. I'll look into that more. (Well... I didn't get to post anything polished yet, but actually that should've been expected. The magic is in the progression anyway.)

It's cool how the more shifts I have its like when I read things I read them with knew eyes every time and it can be more and more mysterious what it means or the opposite I believe they have had some profound breakthrough from their mind but not this overall holistic multi level transformation so thats why they focus on the mind as if thats the main thing only

@Leo Gura These quotes are gold. However I have few questions. Is critical thinking by challenging one's own assumptions a wiser path and is it part of skepticism? Yesterday I was feeling sadness but when I stopped resisting it but rather accepted ,embraced it I smiled. So which is better acceptance or observation of your negative emotions and reminding yourself that it's hallucination ? I mean since both approaches are path to embracing pain but which is the better catalyst for transformation?

AI Spiritually, a prism symbolizes transformation, divine connection, and the realization that complex realities stem from a single source. It represents how one unified beam of universal light refracts into a rich, multi-dimensional spectrum of conscious energy, urging us to explore the hidden colors of our own being. Core Spiritual Themes From Oneness to Diversity: Just as white light enters a prism and splits into a rainbow, the prism represents the journey of Source energy (the Divine) manifesting into the diverse, interconnected phenomena of the physical world. Active Processing: Unlike a mirror—which passively reflects—a prism is an active, transformative tool. It signifies taking neutral life experiences and processing them into deeper spectrums of feeling, wisdom, and purpose. Expanded Consciousness: It acts as a metaphor for spiritual awakening, breaking down the illusion of a singular or rigid reality to embrace a richer, more nuanced understanding of the universe. The Meaning of the Prism Colors Each color of the refracted spectrum carries its own spiritual resonance: Red: Grounding, survival, and foundational life force. Orange: Creativity, emotional flow, and joy. Yellow: Personal power, intellect, and spiritual radiance. Green: Healing, compassion, and the balance of the heart. Blue: Truth, clear communication, and divine will. Indigo: Intuition, wisdom, and inner perception. Violet: Spiritual connection, enlightenment, and universal consciousness. Metaphor in Meditation In spiritual practices, the prism is often visualized during meditation to help open emotional channels, bring clarity to confusing situations, and reconnect with one's higher purpose. It serves as a reminder that we are the instruments refracting the light of the universe into our daily lives

The speakers included Owen Cook, Marczell Klein, Sid Samtaney, Zac and Damon Day 1 Limiting beliefs come down to you not believing you can Everything you do should come from what you want Biggest limiting belief is that it takes a long time If you change your mindset you change your life quickly Anyone who has success in anything isn’t doing from a difficult paradigm Beliefs and Desires conflict and create inner conflict Stop thinking it’s hard When you look a tour life that’s what you optimized for If you wanna improve your life optimize for want you want Guy with delusional confidence wins Invisible mental barrier, limiting beliefs create an internal war inside Best skill is to liberate yourself from limiting beliefs Charisma, Internal self-belief and going after it Best skill - skill to control my own thoughts and feelings Confidence We living in a confidence hierarchy. Whoever has the most confidence is the alpha Marczell went out and approached lots of girls and got addicted to feeling confident His intention wasn’t to get with a girl it was to become more confident At 15 he could approach and girl in any situation If your goal is sex and you don’t get it. Confidence goes down (When going out its best to not make the goal sex make it something else) When you’re confident your brain just picks up the skill with no limitation His goal was to get over his fear of rejection Simplify things to understand them and so you can actually use the information You can be hypnotized to be confident (Mentalism) You want to program your mind so that there’s no conflict within. You are fully aligned with your goal Change doesn’t mean time ti just means change Owen, Marczell & Sud Owen is extremely intense. The most intense person I’ve ever met in my life. He has fire and aggression in him Being proactive not reactive Be at the cause not the effect Owen looks rich. The jewelry glistens. The glasses the shirt look high quality If you want permanent change you must change at the identity level and you can’t remember what it was like Flow state connect conscious and subconscious A man with strength of mind is very attractive Few celebrities have confidence. They’re also scared to approach women You gotta be swinging you gotta be taking risks Very few people aware in the mindset of taking action past their comfort zone The passive meek attitude accumulates Being a good hunter means you’re willing to take risks Be willing to fail See lanes, see opportunity Abundance is required internally to be successful Jealously comes from you believing you ant get what someone else has Everything you do when you have money is for you to have you money There’s a promotion oriented brain and a prevention oriented brain Rain the stakes Run into the burning building (metaphorically) Once I commit to doing it I will figure out the solution You have to win you have no choice Everything intentional the way he moves his hands, dresses etc Easiest way to change your life is through hypnosis Create a second personality Sid Samtaney - Extreme intensity even more so than Owen sometimes like woah Breaking tension hurts your perceived status The ability to hold tension is an indicator light Breaking tension shows sometimes is messed up with you and a lack of self-belief Boldness Need to know you can take up space and nothing happens and you get proof not promises Confidence is a reflection of you self-belief The self belief has to be pure. Your foot can’t be on the gas and the break at the same time You’re in a freakish amount of momentum Everything and the kitchen sink must be throw at it Flow state makes work more fun and effective Jobs are bullshit and they exhaust you When you are at the job you are at the mercy of a boss Getting rich Absolute value for time Time + focus + momentum It’s a war for time, focus and momentum Everything is out there to deplete you. You gotta fight and guard your time When people gossip tune out Once you’re rich its easy to get richer since you’re in the right circles Spiritual ascension You’re at the cause not the affect Everything is easier Vibrations are contagious Need to find something you can start getting money in and do it after your job Permanent work is idiotic Build the principle Live off what it pays you Get 100% of your time back If you have a job you will rot away in a nursing home You know you have a good relationship because its not hard A vibe of valuing your time A vibe of being at the cause not the effect The key is confidence and you need nothing from anybody else People pleasing is taking If you’re giving there and inconcious belief you will receive Crack in the Dam Time efficient Potent Energy Virility Get back time, focus and momentum Being an emotionally regulated source of grounding energy Problems Gatekeepers, to much money to start Miasma Container events Build a big network Charisma Social Skills Personal Branding The skills you get from going out meeting girls helps you get millions Day 2 Higher Purpose Day to Day Motivations Lower Purpose (Pain) What is the cost of not doing this stuff? You don’t need motivation, motivation is fleeting This is all psychological Motivation is an entry level paradigm You need to have clarity on your vision Compile your notes into action steps Buy into your own vision We value what we invest into Fear is an entry level paradigm 0 - 1 is the hardest step. The first step is the hardest step Need to be ruthlessly consistent “I’d rather die than have a job” I am going to be this and the alternatives death Speaking loud is an exertion of your nervous system similar to a boxer knocking someone out a sprinter sprinting Your nervous system should fire Acceptance of pressure Handle adrenaline You’re going into the abyss If you’re not continually going into the unknown. You’re going too slow Train the mind and the body to handle adrenaline Are you gonna die doing this? Act first then course correct later Mind can loop on downsides when afraid Fear is really excitement If you want freedom you will have to take it It’s the bold people who make the real/impact The ultimate high comes from not dying after going outside the comfort zone Your mindset is just a strategy to get things in life Mindset Beliefs Emotions Patterns Your beliefs are just a strategy to either not die or get what you want What minute gets me to be rich and have an amazing dating life Change happens now Confidence is a belief that you will get what you want You know that you’re changed because you’re all in You actions say where you are Weight loss Eat carbs 30 -60 mins after 3x a week lifting 4 days not working out no carbs What do I want? What are you doing wrong that’s not getting you the result? You’re always in a trance. Find out what trance you’re in When you try it implies you can’t do it Have a goal and figure it out You have to have the obsession acquire servant syndrome What do they want? What are they scared of? Focusing on rejection is low caliber thinking People who take extreme ownership of their situation get ahead Subversive Elites - Psychopaths Masses - On autopilot, numb Regular people - connected to God Flywheel - when it speeds up it lives off the power of its own momentum If you don’t have access to a flow state you’re a puppet EVERYTHING FROM A YOUNG AGE IS DESIGNED TO GET YOU TO LISTEN TO AUTHORITY Conscious non-resistance Find something so profound to you it’d make you cry Learn the ancillary skills The skills that bring your vision to life Public speaking Leadership Marketing Social Skills Study click-bait and thumbnails You gotta learn how to have kids so you gotta learn dating The worst thing that can happen to you is staying the same and getting what you want Pick Up A process of personal alchemy and dedication The best gift that women give to men is rejection As a man you have to have a penetrative energy MASTER HIERARCHY Allows ugly, short meant to have the sex life of a god To the girls be more Hilarious Comfortable with yourself In states Leader Having it down to where its like getting a sandwich out the fridge Be out of your head. Alpha makes are out of their head When you have the transformation life gets so fun. His life is just so fun everywhere he goes Marczell’s vibe is an I don’t give a fuck vibe You want be very spiritual and also be like a psychopathic narcissist Day 3 It’s always better to be in the moment when approaching a girl The moment you want to retreat like a turtle in its shell go and do the action Anytime you’re under pressure relax Anytime you’re in your control muscle over release something will be off Be in your release muscle Foot on the gas not the brakes THE GIRLS WANT A GUY WHO’S NOT IN THE BOX OF SOCIETAL CONDITIONING Over time of getting in a flow state often your baseline state increases Push yourself but hot to the point where you’re incongruent Ramp up your state Don’t use crutches Slow is smooth and smooth is fast Practice moving and speaking like molasses People move towards value, strength and status ALWAYS CONTROL THE FRAME In ever mammalian species the top 1% of males mate with 80% of the women Get it in your head that for the rest of your lie you will be aware of how you’re coming across Avoid being meek Speak life a juicy buffalo wing Be positive dominant You need to have a core of strength Fully own yours even if you are stifled The leader is strong. Weak person cannot be trusted by particularly women You’re gonna have people try to shame you and put you back in your box when you are transforming Everyone has to face their demons it may not be comfortable What is your version of hiding? Me- Being quiet, smiling sometimes Don’t put on a character. No mask The mask comes on when we are uncomfortable being ourself There’s has to be something in you that want to conquer that wants to win A part of you that is not tame , not giving a fuck Trying for rapport tonality brings out aggression in others Speak in breaking rapport Voice should inflate downward Stop looking at good looking men as your role model Look at short unattractive men who get a lot of girls as role models Vitality Fearless Hilarious Owen’s last girlfriend at 45 was 20 years old Be honest that a good looking 6’5” guy and a short guy are gonna have to go about dating very differently Go on a rampage Clarity- You need to explain business model very clearly and explain cash flow Explain the psychology behind the whole ting You need to be able to communicate with full self-belief What’s your motivation? Why are you in this? Time cost. Energy cost. Everything in life has a price Need a sense of urgency that it has to happen now Unless you light a fire under your ass it aint gonna happen We have extreme normalcy bias Owen and Sid constantly feel like they’re moving too slow You have to get unstuck. Unfuck yourself You are always in your own way self-sabotaging All change happens when you step out of your current identity If you’re not caught in you will stay stuck You must have self-belief Create a very unique lifestyle. You can do so an an entrepreneur Your presence should say I am a guy that fucks. I’m a guy that gets p*ssy You need to get horny for the girl. Extremely important Look at her and figure out something that will get you horny about her Gotta believe you’re game is good All stress is self-induced Status is in your mind Believe you are higher status than others Need to have a healthy level of narcissism and believe you are better than others to get what you want If you focus on the future what you wanna become you can become that Protect your focus like your life depends on it RAS should focus on the good Learn from your failures but only replay the wins in your head Let go of the story you tell yourself about your life (Owen eating rice crispy treats) Approach anxiety comes from you being one person in your life and another when you approach the girls Owen going out 4 -5 hours a day everyday Don’t be a coward Who you are in between sets and when you aren’t approaching is really important. Can’t be putting on a character when you approach Make no mistake tis is a course that teaches ugly short men who to get beautiful women Bathe in the tension Owen and Sid use aggressive body language that physically riles them up and adds to their intensit Be able to generate different facial expressions and emotions at will Make love to every word you say

Laegna, Conflict Alchemy, and the Strange Door Marked “For Enemies” I’ve been working on a new set of visualizations that explore a territory I call “Laegna” — a psychological and symbolic landscape where conflict, projection, and shadow material don’t just erupt… they reorganize you. Two links if you want to explore the visuals directly: • Live Visualization Demo • Laegna Page (tap the “🤝 For Enemies ☠️” link) This post is an attempt to articulate the deeper structure behind that work, because the visuals alone only hint at the underlying logic. What follows is a long-form exploration of the “For Enemies” doorway — not as a gimmick, but as a pointer to a real developmental threshold. 1. Why a Doorway “For Enemies”? In most spiritual or psychological frameworks, “enemy” is treated as a moral category. But in inner work, “enemy” is a structural category: it is whatever your identity cannot metabolize. It is the shape of the boundary you refuse to cross. It is the part of yourself you outsource to the world so you don’t have to feel it. The “For Enemies” doorway is a symbolic invitation to walk toward the exact place your psyche normally avoids. Not to reconcile, not to forgive, not to transcend — but to see. Seeing is the beginning of alchemy. 2. Laegna as a Transitional Zone Laegna is not a “realm” in the fantasy sense. It’s a transitional zone between your conscious self-model and the unintegrated material that shapes your behavior from the shadows. It has three qualities: • It feels strangely familiar, as if you’ve been there before. • It feels slightly dangerous, because it destabilizes your identity. • It feels meaningful, because it reveals the architecture of your reactions. In the visualizations, Laegna is represented as a shifting, semi-fractal field. This is deliberate: the psyche does not present itself as a clean diagram. It presents itself as a living pattern that changes when you look at it. 3. The Enemy as a Mirror of Structure When you walk through the “For Enemies” doorway, you’re not meeting a person. You’re meeting a structure. An enemy is: • a boundary you didn’t choose consciously • a projection you haven’t reclaimed • a pattern you haven’t metabolized • a part of yourself you’ve exiled into the world This is why “enemy work” is so potent. It is not about the other person. It is about the shape of your own mind. 4. Conflict as Alchemical Heat Alchemy requires heat. Not metaphorical heat — psychological heat. The kind you feel when something threatens your self-image. Conflict is the most reliable source of that heat. But most people dissipate it through: • blame • moralizing • avoidance • spiritual bypassing • intellectualization The “For Enemies” doorway is a way of containing the heat long enough for transformation to occur. It’s a symbolic crucible. 5. What the Visualizations Are Trying to Show The fractal animations in the demo are not just aesthetic. They’re modeling three processes: a) Oscillation — the back-and-forth between identity and shadow b) Recursion — how unresolved patterns repeat at multiple scales c) Dissolution — the moment the pattern loses its rigidity When you watch the lines branch, fold, and re-branch, you’re seeing a visual metaphor for how the psyche reorganizes itself when confronted with its own disowned material. 6. Why This Matters for Actualized.org Work A lot of people here do deep introspection, meditation, psychedelics, and self-inquiry. But one of the most underdeveloped muscles in this community is the ability to use conflict as a developmental tool rather than a distraction. Laegna is a model for that. It’s a way of saying: “Here is the place where your identity breaks down. Here is the place where your shadow becomes visible. Here is the place where your enemy is actually your teacher.” 7. How to Use the “For Enemies” Doorway When you click the link, don’t treat it as a webpage. Treat it as a ritual gesture. Bring to mind someone who triggers you — not mildly, but deeply. Someone who destabilizes your sense of self. Then ask: • What part of me do they embody? • What am I refusing to feel? • What structure in me reacts so violently? • What would happen if I stopped resisting the reaction? • What if the enemy is a doorway into myself? This is not about forgiveness. It’s about integration. 8. The Deeper Point The enemy is not the other person. The enemy is the boundary of your current identity. When you cross that boundary consciously, you don’t just “grow.” You reorganize. You become capable of perceiving yourself from a new vantage point. 9. Closing Thoughts If you explore the links, treat them as symbolic tools rather than content. The visualizations are meant to evoke a felt sense of the transitional zone — the place where identity loosens and deeper structures become visible. If you want to go deeper, start with the question: “What am I unwilling to see about myself that I keep projecting onto others?” That question alone can open the Laegna doorway. Again, the links: • Live Visualization Demo • Laegna Page (tap the “🤝 For Enemies ☠️” link)

hm, God is not a thing that acts within an egomind God is what allows the egomind to have a sense of reality in which it appears to be making a choice, acting as some finite thing in a world. it is slightly off to say that one must "become" nothing, because that implies a transformation from a specific form into another, and since God has no shape whatsoever, the statement is not true. you must -remove- the layer that God imagined, within itself, and by removing the egomind, God is what remains, because it was (and is) always the case precisely

Dear actualized.org members. It is important I share this update with the community. Around three years ago I made this post reviewing the Monastic Academy for the Preservation of Life on Earth, or MAPLE. Much of what I spoke to was valid relative to that point in time, but has since dramatically shifted. This post is an update to the original. I'm sharing this story now as a lesson and case study into the ever present dangers of self-deception. I haven't watched Leo's most recent video on fake-spirituality but can say with confidence MAPLE would fall into this category, as well as fits into Leo's classic video on "Cult Psychology." I re-watched Leo's video on cults towards the end of my Residency at MAPLE and was taken aback by how much Leo's description aligned with what MAPLE had slowly transformed into during my time there. I would approximate 70% of the aspects of cult psychology Leo speaks to MAPLE had slowly fallen into over the course of my training. If at all possible, I would ask either Leo or moderators remove the original review on MAPLE or let me edit it. MAPLE has spent considerable financial resources scrubbing the internet of negative reviews. Now when you search "monastic academy" on google, my original and quite frankly, raving review, is one of the top hits on Google. This could potentially contribute towards harm. Below is a statement I've written and shared on other social media and a link to a YouTube video speaking directly about my story. I'm also happy to answer any questions the community may have. - Last February I left my time training as a Resident at the Monastic Academy for the Preservation of Life on Earth, or "MAPLE." The TLDR is that I left because I watched this vibrant spiritual community slowly de-cohere into a cult. The below video is an account of my story regarding MAPLE, and what I observed which lead to this decision to leave. And it's worth mentioning - MAPLE has self-described explicitly as being a cult; the use of the word is both out of respect for the organization's self-identity and yet critical in that my sharing of this is a pointing to systemic power structures and dynamics typical of distinctly *abusive* cults. It's also worth sharing that multiple attempts at giving organizational feedback have taken place over multiple generations of the community on individual-to-individual, small group, and collective scales. I've personally engaged in all three of these forms of attempted feedback. Despite these prior attempts, feedback has not been adequately received nor addressed. Patterns of harm in various forms and iterations have continued playing out. As of right now, I'm the only individual I'm aware of who has deeply participated in the community and training program who is now making a public statement about MAPLE's misconduct. However, this raises the question - how is it possible that I, personally, could go along with this for three years? Since leaving, I've been in constant inquiry around this; around where personal integrity fractures, and where being a victim to sophisticated, subtle, and highly intelligent forms of manipulative domination meet. However, this inquiry doesn't stop at the individual. While MAPLE and my story are unique, this story is also a fractal of the ways in which planetary systems of power function to dominate not only humans, but all life on Earth. We are in fact in the midst of a global meta-crisis which originates from a collective mind of domination that we are all subject to. To ask where our personal integrity fractures in the face of domination is to be directly in the inquiry of global systems change. The tragedy of MAPLE is that despite what I share in my story, MAPLE's work in the field of existential risk and its theory of change speaks to the heart of preserving life on Earth through recognizing any true change of the future of humanity is a function of the transformation of mind. Attempting to address AI Risk, Climate Change, or any other major threat to life on Earth without addressing the axiomatic root of causally productive mind is misunderstanding where systems change actually takes place. Global systems change rooted in wisdom and compassion is inextricable from mind. Yet, to weaponize this insight as justification for misconduct is deeply dangerous and hypocritical. It's easy to say that the ends justify the means when one adopts a position of planetary spiritual authority. It's easy to bypass the hard work of relational integrity when there's only the foregrounding of planetary urgency. There are countless configurations of the mechanisms of manipulative deflection and plausible deniability that spiritual authority can wield when the only thing that matters is the conceptual projection of the preservation of life on Earth rather than living in the reality of one's embodied relationships. I have no doubts about the sincerity of the MAPLE community, but I also recognize the deep, ever present possibility of self-deception and all of its collective expressions when proper feedback channels are not allowed to exist. The core of why I left and why I'm sharing my story now is a response to this self-protective contraction of the community away from honesty. I do not claim to hold all the answers to MAPLE's collective psychology. I do not claim to hold all of the answers to global systems change. And I certainly do not self-proclaim planetary spiritual authority. But I do make a firm claim that it is only through a personal commitment to honesty, integrity, and truth that compassion arises, at any scale. This commitment must not only express itself as a realization of the nature of one's mind, but must also express itself throughout the behavioral conduct of living relationships, and it is the coherence of these two that gives rise to a world based on wisdom and compassion. Video Account of My Story

The purest form of science is very much needed. I don't think science as a principle or philosophy is bad at all... 🤔💭 The actual scientific method is essentially: how do we verify and discover reproducible steps toward a certain goal? How do we verify truth? If the goal were to deliver experiences of God or enlightenment in a reproducible way to people, you would still need some sort of discipline that attempts to do that systematically for most. If, let's say, one day the goal of science became enlightenment or God, scientists would still need to create some form of methodology, synthetic psychedelics, or other interventions. For all of that, you would need very efficient, precise, granular studies of genes and molecular structures, as well as strong social sciences and psychological sciences, to administer and guide that type of transformation. I don't think science as a method is horrible at all. Its current aims are often tied to materialism, pragmatism, business, and operating within capitalism. But if the aim were God, enlightenment, or spiritual realization, then the scientific method could integrate mysticism and spirituality. It would become something more aligned with Stage Orange's rigor, combined with Stage Yellow/Teal's integrative and spiritual perspective.

Well this is CoPilot's interpretation. Two Hubs, Five Paths: A Map of Laegna’s Mind–Body Work Human development often unfolds through two complementary gateways: the symbolic Mind and the experiential Body. Each reveals different aspects of clarity, intuition, structure, and transformation. Below are the two hubs and the five paths they open. Mind Hub — Symbolic & Cosmic Orientation The Mind axis offers tools for understanding value, cycles, and the architecture of meaning. • SpiMind — Mind Gateway • Laechemical Gold A symbolic exploration of inner value, alchemical clarity, and the structure of meaning. • Alchemotesimal A rotating star‑calendar revealing infinitesimal cycles and cosmic timing. Body Hub — Experiential & Practical Integration The Body axis grounds the work through narrative, intuition, and unified theory. • SpiBody — Body Gateway • Laegna SpiBody — Core Directory & External Anchor The central index of the SpiBody system, linking the experiential branches. • SpiBody Unified Theory — Central SpiBody Site A structural model connecting body, narrative, and phenomenology into one coherent framework. • SpiZenTao — SpiBody 2 · Trivia & Intuitive Insights Light, intuitive, and playful insights that complement the deeper theoretical work. Two Hubs, Five Paths, One System The Mind hub orients you to symbolic and cosmic layers. The Body hub grounds you in lived experience and practical transformation. Together, the five paths form a complete developmental map: clarity, cycles, structure, narrative, and intuition—each reinforcing the others in a single integrated system.