Lyubov

Oh, it's a pity. I don't always read your posts because actually they are quite mature and long. I don't mean that as an insult, in fact I think this may be some useful communication on my end where you are landing. This forum is definitely not for everyone and is by no means the pinnacle of consciousness. It's just a community built around Leo's beliefs and crusades and his spiritual path. It attracts a lot of men who often have very different world views than women do, and a lot of us are just here to yap, not listen. This is not a serious place. It is more for yapping. The quality of discussion isn't great and a lot of people including me come here more to speak than to listen. It's actually a way I think for me to entertain myself ab it and muse a bit between work and my other responsibilities. If the discussion isn't helpful for you I agree that you shouldn't put energy into the community here. I have in fact taken long breaks from this place. I think I've taken up to a year break before here. I have never written the community off entirely so I do sometimes come back because I do enjoy yapping and making my own contribution. But yeah, I do think that sometimes realizing this place isn't always helpful and isn't for everyone is fine. The politics section is fun for me. I agree. To be honest I think I would benefit from not putting time into this place for at least until next year and see where I am at. I would probably benefit from actually dipping out until spring time and seeing where I'm at, so I will join you in leaving. I will see all of y'all in the spring if I so choose to return then

Yeah, Tony isn't bad at all. In fact there are a lot of really useful beliefs he espouses and he shares some great teachings on beliefs and persistence. I would actually say a lot of Tony's more recent content isn't just your usual hard work teachings. He dives pretty deep actually into some really wise concepts that are as old as the hills and a good bit of spirituality and authentic "higher" self stuff is woven into them. My bringing it up was more-so about how a person wouldn't have a deeper understanding of social security, why it exists, the reasons behind it, and then dismiss it as entitlement. Granted I haven't watched the whole video, nor have the time or energy too, and Tony himself didn't say it and is not present in this video (but it's on his channel so to me he is responsible for it being there). I'm basically trying to garner some lessons from understanding a world view which believes in self improvement, is aware of spirit, seems quite sharp on a lot of wisdom but simultaneously adjacent to defense contractors, people who see a safety program like social security which many sick people benefit from as a burden, etc. because to me what I am aware of within it's unfathomable and a lower order of thinking to clarify something which ultimately benefits all, which has an intention behind it to help people in need, to me that right there I understand as a good for the world. Not as in a religious way or a moral crusade but as I understand how the world works it is necessary to have. It doe not work perfectly of course, but no other alternatives exist besides devolving into feudalism, a tragedy of the commons and wealth inequality. I'm trying to understand the bias in Tony's world view how you can be spiritual but invest in Palintir which creates AI to kill Gaza kids.... what am I not getting, what are they not getting?

@Leo Gura What are your thoughts on Tony Robbins? I recently checked out his channel and he does have some interesting ideas on beliefs and he actually has some really powerful teachings on inner engineering. I kept scrolling though and he then had a one hour podcast with defense contractors who in the middle of the podcast belittled social security calling it “entitlement spending.” To me this would be in violation of my belief system and seems just completely contradictory from the values and truth I have found within. I am trying to understand how such a world view is formed where you can understand what Tony teaches about beliefs, the universe, wisdom, and then simultaneously seem to have this parallel system running in unison which seems almost perverse, almost an excuse you turn a blind eye to which is used for supporting your survival or the parts of your worldview you built your business on.

There is a demand for this. Gambling is at an all time high.

A lot of low and mid level people who don't have much of a name. Most big dogs are scared to jump ship still.

large portions in bible school

All the right wing grifters jumping ship like rats They haven't learned anything. It's so predictable. They're pivoting to something slightly less smelly but taking zero accountably for what they supported.

Bible Corny stuff man

Brazil has some serious issues that neither side is able to properly fix yet promises big every time. The poverty and favelas in Brazil are out of control. They try to say that Lula goes easy on the crime that comes from favelas which is true but it's not like Bolsonaro was able to lower the crime rate. Hard statistics point to homicide dropping under Lula while staying the same under Bolsonaro. You can expect a lot of show of force under Bolsonaro but no real changes.

the irony and projection

You already are whole

Democracy means even the tards get to vote. I realized it’s fruitless to get angry about when I accepted I couldn’t change this fact. You have complete fucktards who really think they’re onto something, voting. That’s democracy for you.

Nick Shirley is in the Oval Office now? Oh lord Trump hiring his own “journalists” now.

You’re building your life on emotional logic and getting completely lost in your feelings. You’re creating a painful emotion but it’s coming from a belief. You are the creator of your emotions, not the victim of them. I believe/think I am unworthy because________. fill that in, keep asking “why?” Answer: because I believe/think ______. I’ve found that true worth is intrinsic. It’s inherent to life and oneself. You were born with inherent worth and will die with inherent worth. And no matter what happens in your life, what mistakes you make, nothing will ever change this worth. No one can give it to you or ever take it away because you already have it and it’s untouchable.

No it is not. That is all your beliefs clouding you and causing your suffering. Life can be brutal, sure.