BTW, even though I said above that I have a policy of not engaging with reactionaries, I will still always be open to constructive feedback. I rarely get good constructive feedback, usually it's trolling type stuff which I ignore. But if I see genuine constructive feedback I will read it and take it into consideration since I do make mistakes and my ways of teaching can be improved.

I would just mirror what users @Tetcher2 and @Derek White have openly said, and what many others have tried dancing around.
@Preety_India is a complete embarrassment to this community. When people like myself refer to the cult-like element within this forum, then honestly this is precisely what we are talking about - she is the gift that keeps on giving.
I must have received around 40 comments from her within the space of about two hours on my channel, and I see here that she was equally busy spinning that story over here, in the time between each of those. Of course she would paint that conversation as my immediate "calling her an idiot", but that's not quite what happened, and it took a good amount of attempted civility on my part before I could see I was pissing in the wind.
You have a problem here guys.  

The antidote is to go out and talk to lots of girls. You will become desensitized and stop caring.
You don't need to deliberately try to make anyone uncomfortable on purpose. It will happen by accident enough as you go out and approach. And you'll see it's not a big deal. You will also become cool and calibrated such that people enjoy your company more and girls appreciate your approaches.
Mostly you make people uncomfortable because you are uncomfortable with people. As you socialize a lot you will become a lot more comfortable and people will become a lot more comfortable with you.
A lot of times when I approach a girl these days, she and her friend will say, "Wait a minute, how do I know?" And I will say, "You don't." But it feels to her like I'm her long lost friend because the approach is so smooth.
If a girl's friend see's me approach her, she will often assume I am her long lost friend. Finally she will ask her girlfriend, "How do you know this guy?" and she will say, "I don't know him." And the friend is like, "What??!" Lol
You just gotta get smooth at this stuff.

I have not read a single book on climate change science.
However, I have spent 20 years contemplating epistemology.
What JP said is not how scientific modeling works. He was actually making an epistemic argument against climate change science which is fallacious.
If you want to argue the models are wrong on technical grounds, that's fine. But that's not what he argued. He basically argued that modeling nature is impossible. Which is silly for a scientist to say.

Low self-esteem people are still attracted to all the classic signs of high value. They just also tend to tolerate abusive people. But that's another matter.
Brad Pitt could be an abusive rapist, but low self-esteem girls would still be very attracted to him. In fact, even moreso. And Brad Pitt is a high value guy, even if he is an abusive rapist.
Being an asshole does not lower one's value, especially in the eyes of most women.

Adeptus is a good guy and has actually brought up some fair criticism of Leo. Y'all need to relax.
It's not like he's accusing him of being a child rapist or some crap about the old Actualized logo.

@Roy with you on this, quite shocked with the community and leos reaction and response to this. seems to me like its just been one big blow off and reduction of all adeptus's points. really not in line with what leo teaches honestly. dont like how nowone is taking what adeptus has to say seriously instead just telling him what he should do, making claims about him clickbaiting and generally avoiding the actual content of what hes saying. adeptus has a reason to be making the video hes making and just resorting to hollow claims and dismissing what hes actually saying and why hes saying it which he clearly fucking stated in the video is crap, were better than this.
 
imagine if leo actually came out, stepped up, took some criticism, walked down off this pedestool of knowing everything and actually took this guy seriously. that would really represent what the work is about imo. not this pety crap, ridiculing and getting all defensive over honestly fair criticism. i feel like this whole thing has been telling as to whats really going on here and i dont know how i feel about things honestly.
 
i really fucking respect leo, he was very luminating for me and pieced so many things together for me as a young guy. the first teacher to tie eveyrthing together so well. got me into all this initially. seriously love the man, still think hes brilliant. got a totally extraordinary mind. he is still just a dude. leo seriously man, i think your creating a pedestool for yourself with your content. youve said it yourself in videos that you get criticism for being arrogant. you claim you know it, you see it etc... but this is literally it here man, this is clearly an example of it happening. your poisioning your fans and followers like me honestly by not addressing it and its creating some cult like dynamics in the audience. honestly just having some fucking humility here and there man, i think thats whats lacking. i aswell as others dont like the way you assume things about the audience. use statements like "you will never understand this" or similar ways of honestly just aggrandizing yourself. no man, thats bullshit. your smart, you see something not alot of people do, you need to be wiser with this and take a step down and humble yourself. the teachings are real, theres something to this. to the whole god thing. your turning off all kinds of fans and people interested in this with this corner and hole youve been boxing yourself into. i think its honestly why the amount of people interested in the teaching now is so stuck, its cause your making a bubble honestly. running from criticism, conversation, logically taking on what he has to say and taking what adeptus or anyone else is saying seriously. i feel like someone seriously interested in the truth wouldnt just be as dismissive and completely rule out any self deception or fairness or even truth kernels here and there in what hes saying! come on
adeptus's name calling on the forum isnt helping the matter. i understand though, dudes probably ticked. makes sense after i imagine yall are coming after him like a bucnh of angry bees and the response on here to his video has just been yucky and reactive. adeptus could be a hell of alot ruder imo. leos response on here was just as provocative and dismissing. seriously, the if you dare comment? ugh
Id honestly love to see more respect from Leo towards Adeptus and vice versa, yall are big boys, an actual conversation wouldnt be bad. i understand leos teachings are tricky to talk about, its easy to misconstrude. still though, i think none of these ideas are being challenged properly. we need more conversation just outside of the honestly dogmatic and leo centered nature of this place or just in leos multi hour long videos. yall dont need to go back and forth arguing, have a real fucking logical conversation about this. try your best to see each others side. take each other seriously. sotp just dismising adeptus as a clickbaiter, rationalist, etc.. hes not, hes a good guy with real valid reasons and intent to say the things he had to say. its really not like leo doesnt speak about others on his channel *cough cough multiple hour long video on jordan peterson*. you wouldnt call leo a clickbaiter or making the teaching about the person.  adepetus's point on him branching out his content more, sharing more ideas was spot on. adeptus is a fair guy and honestly perfectly allowed to share his opinions and call out shit as he sees it. same way leo does. period
I want leo to talk about the grandiosity and status hes creating for himself, its gotten especially bad since the whole awakening break thing last year. adeptus's point on leos talk about the same traits and experiecne he describes in the dangers of psychs vid and the delusional thinking was spot on. leo really shouldve said more "I" statements and not just said "you" its just talking down to the audience. adeptus's whole im right your wrong thing was a bit silly but leo was clearly describing himself and his own experience in those statements, even with the experiences he had on 5meo being real and insightful.  dont doubt that. but, cant say leo wasnt totally unhinged, ungrounded, a bit all over the place. own up to it man. theres some real fucking kernels here that your not taking.
 i dont like the lack of critical thinking about this and the reactionary honestly ideological thinking on here about this whole thing...

I frankly know very little about Leo or Actualized.org.  I came to this place from a Google search about 5MeO-DMT, and Leo seemed to have a good deal of experience with the substance and some intriguing ideas about the spiritual implications of the psychedelic experience.  I have watched a few of his videos, but I find that I quickly loose interest.  They seem more like ramblings and he his slow to get to a point, almost like he is working out his thoughts on the fly.  I'm a college professor and so it is my job to take complex issues and present them in ways for the average student to grasp relatively quickly.  It isn't easy, especially when dealing with a subject that is well beyond most peoples experience.  I get that.  But when you have to sit through an hour or more to get what could be explained in 15 minutes, eventually many people just check out.  Leo is of course free to do what ever he likes, and clearly his style resonates with lots of people.
Frankly, some of Leo's videos do raise a red flag in my mind.  There is a cult like feel to some of them.  I alone can.... I know things you can't possibly understand...  These are the statements of someone deluded, and certainly not what I would expect from someone who was genuinely a spiritual teacher.  Byron Katie doesn't talk like this.  Neither does Mooji, Adyashanti, Eckhart Tolle, Ram Dass or any other spiritual teacher I respect.  I don't get a sense of much grounding with Leo.  But then again, I honestly don't know him well enough to judge.  It is just an impression from the limited content I have seen.  From my own experience with psychedelics I know how ungrounding they can be.  It takes me days, to weeks to feel like I have my legs under me after a profound trip.  I know how easy it is to fall down the rabbit hole into delusional thinking if I'm not careful. 
The biggest insight from my one 5MeO-DMT trip was being a human being is the whole point of being a human being.  Trying to transcend is really just a veiled attempt to escape our problems and the real experience of ego, the difficulties of life and being human.  Nothing wrong with peeking behind the trappings of the ego and having profound psychedelic induced spiritual experiences.  They have been of great value in my life and spiritual journey.  But the point isn't to live in those states, but learn from them so we can apply the insights in the human level.

So from my perspective, as an outsider of this group, most of what I have seen from Adeptus Psychonautica's videos are legitimate critiques.  Maybe done in an dramatic or humorous way, but still largely valid.  We can respect and learn from those with more experience that we have.  But keep grounded and watch for delusional thinking and echo chambers.

Hi @Leo Gura
It certainly IS amusing, because all the exact things you said in your "I'm leaving" video you now describe as signs of delusion - or is this one of those situations where it only applies to anyone who isn't you? I guess if YOU say that YOU are the most awakened person on the planet who has mystical healing powers then that's OK, but if someone ELSE said it then it would be delusional - am I understanding this correctly?
One thing I will say is that if I misread this whole thing as your attempt to correct for last years absurd bullshit, when in actuality you are sticking to your guns, then I can only apologise, and don't worry I will soon correct the record and let my audience know that you are still in fact completely delusion. Again I would ask you to confirm exactly when you will begin to cure all human diseases, and instantaneously solve every problem for humanity. If you could do it by the end of this week that would be awesome.

I thought I had made it fairly clear that I don't study your "body of work" because I don't think it is anything beyond a YouTube channel by an inexperienced and sometimes delusional young man. You are not some wizened sage who is worth seriously studying mate, and so I choose to invest my energies into material of a higher caliber.
For all the points below I am happy to go and get the actual quotes if you deem it necessary - but do I really need to do this? its all in the first video straight from the horses mouth. I think this is a big part of your problem - I don't think you even know half the shit you have said. That is why your content is so contradictory, but anyway here is some rough counterpoints for you to chew on. 
No you haven't been promoting psychedelic safety since day one - don't be absurd. Day one of what? Your channel? Was it before or after you told everyone to take 5 MEO DMT or they were wasting decades of their life? Where is this public record you speak of? This wasn't a big criticism anyway so I'm not sure why you are banging on about it.
Yes you did claim to be the messiah. You know when you say you are greater than Jesus, greater than Buddha, the most enlightened awakened person who ever existed on the history of this planet. The guy who was chosen by the universe to spread its highest teachings and gifted with the power to heal mankind - those are messianic claims you chump! 
In regard to the cult leader thing - are you simple? I have said about 10 times now that I DO NOT THINK YOU ARE A CULT LEADER. You do understand that a "cult of personality" is not the same thing as you leading a cult? Surely I don't have to explain the difference to someone as learned as you? So please... tell me again whose vision is clouded
If you didn't want to correspond with me then just say so you big soft shit. You were the one who started it with the laughable bravado of "IF YOU DARE", so at least have the balls to say "I changed my mind". You are like the guy who challenges someone to a pistol duel but then comically runs off in the opposite direction when they say yes - its really lame, bordering on cowardice to be honest, and not what one would expect from a god-like being such as yourself.
As for my unhealthy fixation with you - what can I say, there is A LOT of material here with you and your followers that just writes itself, and I think the bizarre mindset of this group is worth commenting on. Surely you would agree because you yourself have commented on other such groups, even in your recent video addressing the Jordan Peterson phenomenon - or is this another one of those situations where you are exempt... because Leo? I Think of it kinda like when SNL pokes fun at the ridiculousness of Donald Trump and his zealots, it works precisely because its true - and I'm sure it stings him for the same reason. The pretentious tend and egotistical tend to be burned most by ridicule.

Finally mate, you don't have the last word on what spirituality is, nor god, nor anything - you are just a dude.

Take care buddy

@chakra_7654321
All you're saying is, "I don't got game."
The solution is simple.
Approach 5000 girls. Learn game. It will all auto-correct as you go out and fail thousands of times. Eventually you will become so good that you'll laugh that this was ever a problem.
Move to a city with lots of girls and good nightlife.
This is not an issue you solve by thinking or talking to someone.

@Edvard A hallmark of higher consciousness people is that they behave more authentically, truthfully, honestly. So they will not want to pretend to act less conscious. That's something only a low consciousness person would think of doing.
In many ways Obama was very pragmatic and Orange/Green. He wasn't super Yellow and nowhere near Turquoise.
No, just the opposite. The truly wise have no desire for power, glory, fame, or success. They have no desire to win or to rule.
If what you said was true, then all the emperors of Japan would have been Zen masters and all the presidents of the USA would have been Nobel prize winning scientists and humanitarians. But that's precisely the opposite of what happens. The people who rise to the heights of power are usually the most ego-maniacal, power-hungry, Machiavellian, ruthless, and evil. (There are a few exceptions).
You'd have to be insane to want to behave like Trump on purpose.
That sorta like asking, why doesn't a university professor behave like a mental-retard? He could, but why would he?
The whole point of achieving stage Turquoise is that you see the entire cosmos as one interconnected being. There is nothing left to be selfish about. The self is seen to be a gross delusion.
I explained why he is Red here: https://www.actualized.org/insights/trump-and-spiral-dynamics
As President, of course he is killing people. The number of innocent civilians killed under Trump from drone strikes alone has been more in 1 year than under Obama's entire term.
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-has-already-killed-more-civilians-obama-us-fight-against-isis-653564
And, BTW, the US military grossly under-counts civilian deaths (of course).
The greater the ego, the longer its trail of collateral damage. Trump isn't even aware of the collateral damage he is causing, which is precisely what makes him so dangerous. He has no self-reflection, unlike someone like Obama.

Haha! all of y'all need to go back and understand that the ego likes to think it is 2 stages above so for the guy saying he was yellow at his late teens: Come on man be real with yourself.
 
You are not lying to us you are lying to yourself.
 
 
Arc

Children are overrated. 

I haven't been doing it for years. I've only done game for about 2 years in total. I spent most of my time working on Actualized.org and my spirituality. I restarted game recently because I entered a new phase of my life.
I also spent years in a relationship. I have no problem with commitment. I don't cheat on my gf.

This is such a bad take I don't even know where to begin correcting it.
You clearly don't understand pickup.
There is no higher odds place to get laid than a nightclub. That's why they were invented. Private parties are great, but there's just not enough of them.

Visualizing proper inner game, and then going out consistently, approaching, and analyzing all your sets at the end of the night to iron out every sticking point and learn every micro lesson.
It will take a year or more of constant game to start to dial in your inner game. You have to be ruthless about identifying and squashing every micro sticking point.
Also observe how you are sabotaging yourself.
Mostly it just sounds like you're not approaching enough nor sticking in set long enough. You gotta force yourself to do like 20 approach per night, and go out at least 3 nights a week for a year.
You are not going to cure approach anxiety via some magic bullet. The cure is approaching. Do 5000 approaches.

Definitely important if it's important to you.
I find that most girls are pretty open to it and can be guided into it, even if they are pretty clueless about it.
So you just want to avoid the ones who are totally materialistic or dogmatically closedminded.
I usually ask a girl within the first 5 mins, "Are you spiritual?" and "How are you spiritual?" This tells you a lot.
I once found a prostitute who was into DMT and she had some God-realizations. Didn't sleep with her but we had a blast on DMT. Also found another stripper/prostitute who was super into New Age spirituality and started her own church. She has also done 5-MeO. You'll be amazed at how many spiritual girls are out there.

Well, at the bare minimum just physical appearance. But of course you can start to layer all sorts of other factors on top of that which makes the girl harder and harder to find.
It's not like a girl with lesser physical appearance will meet all your other criteria. She could easily be a jobless, neurotic, alcoholic, nutcase.

Calculate how many hours of cold approach it would take you to sleep with 1000 girls.
You don't think this guy has built insane social skills in those 7 years? It's not like he doesn't have game. Game and social circle are not mutually exclusive. They synergize.
The bottom line is that he designed exactly his ideal lifestyle and now he's living it. I'm not telling you to copy him. I'm just sharing an anecdote of how one guy set up his life in a way that's conducive to getting laid. This will certainly not be suitable for many people. For example, if you want to move around a lot then social circle isn't for you.
If sleeping with 1000 girls is something that appeals to you (it doesn't appeal to me personally), then investing 7 years to get that is not unreasonable.
You are also completely discounting all other benefits that come with having such a powerful social circle. A powerful social circle yields: job opportunities, sales opportunities, business opportunities, investment opportunities, exclusive events, all sorts of freebies, insider knowledge, and amazing friends. Girls are only half the equation.
For this guy it's not just about the girls, it's the lifestyle he wanted.

You should be happy to pull twice a month when you first start learning game.
I told you it's a lot harder than you think.
I am telling you the results of the best guys in the world. They are the Michael Jordans of their sport.

Sleeping with 1000 girls is a lot of work for sure. That's like a career, Lol.
He has a much easier time pulling than from cold approach.
It's not that easy to pull consistently, regardless of quality. It takes serious skill. Both guys and girls underestimate the skill necessary.
Go try pulling consistently and see how hard it is.

Become Zedd.
Or get really good at cold approach. I met a 21 year old at the club last month who slept with 700 girls from cold approach. He pulls every day.

It's not technically necessary, but cold approach is not best for the hottest girls because they get approached so often. For them, it helps a lot to offer social value and to stack the logistics in your favor.
For example, I know a guy in Vegas who's slept with over 1000 girls. How did he do it? Not from cold approach. He did by building an elite social circle such that he's able to get free tables at any nightclub in Vegas. He can get a $5000 table for free any night. Then he just pulls girls into the table. Plus he gets invited to all the elite after parties. For example, he is friends with Zedd, so after Zedd performs at the club, Zedd invites 100 of the hottest girls to a private $20,000 hotel suite. He also invites 10 guys. That's where the real game happens. Imagine how easy it is to get laid when you are sitting in a $20,000 suite with a private pool next to Zedd with 100 of the hottest girls and a tray of cocaine.
That's elite level social circle game. That's how you get the hottest girls consistently.
It took this guy 7 years of 4 hours per day building his social circle to reach this elite level.
A lot of getting laid is simply social position and favorable logistics.
But you don't need anything like this to get laid with cute girls. I am just telling you what the pinnacle of game looks like. The pinnacle of game is that your social position is so good all you have to do is say Hi and the girl goes home with you. If you want that, YES, you'll have to work your ass off to build it.
Then again, I pulled an Instagram model thru cold approach dressed as a homeless guy outside the club at 4:30am. It's just not consistent. That Instagram model told me she was at Zedd's afterparty. Fortunately Zedd only has one dick

You need to realize that girls will get attracted to you regardless of what you have materially in your life. Mostly what attracts the girl is how you express your personality. So you work on that and more girls will get attracted.
You can be homeless and jobless and hot girls will still get attracted to you if you express your personality properly. That means mostly all you have to worry about is improving your game. On the other hand, if your game sucks and you are too lazy to improve it, not much will help you.

At this point, God-realization is the only thing I recognize as worth pursuing or talking about. Everything else is inferior.
Yes, it's a particular state. But what a state!
I will take 5 minutes of God-realization vs 100 years of no-self.
P.S. No-self is also a state. Everything is a state. There is no escaping states.