How come people claim to observe and experience the same torments in hell ?

[Schizophonia]

It's ridiculous.

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, Bandman said:

to know whether an unescapable doom exists.

Again, if that's what you focus on, maybe that's what you'll get: unescapable doom.

God can't help you if you lock yourself in Hell by misusing your Consciousness.

Edited January 23 by Leo Gura

[Bandman]

@Leo Gura That hurts to hear. How could there be any "misuse" in the end if everything is Good from God's perspective? How could there be a state where you would never be able to get out from? 

[Leo Gura]

@Bandman You are like the man who locked himself in a jail cell, threw away the key, and spent the rest of his days wondering how a loving God could be so cruel.

Edited January 23 by Leo Gura

[Bandman]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

@Bandman You are like the man who locked himself in a jail cell, threw away the key, and spent the rest of his days wondering how a loving God could be so cruel.

But that man would die in the end, so that analogy isn't correct.

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Bandman said:

But that man would die in the end, so that analogy isn't correct.

Eventually you'll realize the foolishness of your ways and wake up.

Or not.

Up to you.

Edited January 23 by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

Read the books Conversations With God. It explains how consciousness after death works.

[Bandman]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Eventually you'll realize the foolishness of your ways and wake up.

Or not.

Up to you 

I hope so. It feels very foolish. I guess i should just accept that i might up in hell for eternity. To be honest I am scared by those stories of abrahamic religions that say people will end up in hell forever. but it doesn't make sense that you should believe in a certain religion to be safe or not. It just scares me. Don't you agree with me that unescapable doom is literally the only scary thing, since it's the only thing where hope would die? Like you said, there is reason to worry if there's anything to be done about it, but it doesn't seem like thats the case. Guess i should just start having faith in God. Somehow i have this paranoia that i deserve punishment and will never get out of it, a certain metaphysical hopelessness.s

it's all love Leo, thanks for all your wisdom.

[Bandman]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Read the books Conversations With God. It explains how consciousness after death works.

okay, i wil check that out. thanks.

[Yimpa]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Read the books Conversations With God. It explains how consciousness after death works.

Yay, a Donald we can trust!!

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, Bandman said:

like i said, yes i am willing to go to hell. It's about knowing how to get out of there. I want the gnostic knowledge to know whether an unescapable doom exists.

You should just contemplate the fundamentals, like what a belief is.

[Jehovah increases]

Be careful what your beliefs are you could very well make this like Mr. Gruguer's dream world. I still never understood why there were sheep in his boiler rooms and whale sounds. Anyway, when I last saw the so-called devil it ran back like a little biotch back to what you would call Hell. If you come across my oompa loompa demonic friend say hello from me. And....

Edited January 24 by Jehovah increases

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Squeekytoy said:

You mean the game where I don't agree with you.

No, I mean your snarky attitude.

Edited January 24 by Leo Gura

[mmKay]

@Bandman

[Frenk]

From Home with God

[Frenk]

1 minute ago, Frenk said:

From Home with God

From Home with God @Leo Gura

[Yimpa]

1 million cells in the human body die every second.

Do cells experience hell..?!

[Peo]

1 hour ago, Squeekytoy said:

You make a business out of misleading millions because of your own ego.

There are people out there who are worse then him.

[mmKay]

@Frenk great share. I have experienced stage 1 when I got choked out playing with my olde brother

Stage 2 is consistent with what I have experienced lucid dreaming and doing astral projection. It is a mechanism that works without a mechanism. You directly and instantaneously control the present moment with the mind, whatever you think of materializes . Whatever backstory you confabulate becomes true.

So that's pretty cool.

 

About the "hell not existing unless you create it" statement, id like to point out that aparently salvia specifically sends you into that state of consciousness that is inclined towards creating whacky realities that are prone towards suffering ( from what I've heard)

From what I've experienced, sleep paralysis consistently created that state of consciousness where you experience psychological fear and perhaps even physical pain. And ofc there are nightmares where terror and suffering happens but you always are capable of editing the dream through mental willpower. Escaping the sleep paralysis requieres more effort and struggle but nevertheless it's always possible.

I've had where I escape a sleep paralysis and get a sense of relief and then I notice I'm actual still in it and the terror goes on LMAO it can happen a few times in a row. It's so trippy its comedic

Edited January 24 by mmKay

[MellowEd]

On 1/22/2024 at 1:38 AM, MellowEd said:

True, stealing something, even if it's small has a huge ripple effect.

Even the wildest hellish nightmare wouldn't even detect down in the pit.

God gave me visions of what He has saved me from. Hell is designed according to your trangressions against God. I would not wish it upon my worst enemy. There is no blessings down there and it is forever. Life after death feels much more real than this. 

Do not be deceived for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

 

This testimony of hell is  thought-provoking, describing the pit as being perfectly designed according to her transgressions against God. She also goes in great detail about her soul being pulled out of her body. 

It sounds like more than an acid flashback. 

 

Edited January 24 by MellowEd