Nahm Demoted

[Preety_India]

2 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

If he can manifest anything, why does he charge for his lessons ?. 

To be honest, this is the first day I come to know that he charges money for his sessions. This is the first thread. I had no idea before. 

Also shouldn't this be illegal as per forum guidelines? 

 

Edited February 21, 2022 by Preety_India

[Ananta]

3 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

@Leo Gura if you have a moderator slot opening, could I fill it?

Really? ?‍♀️

That is so inappropriate on this thread ?

[Crane Bahnsteik]

Good decision.

Being so disconnected and unable to respond on the same contextual level of the question is the opposite of being conscious or awakened. 

Being conscious means that you are conscious of the present context and know how to navigate it while perhaps alluding to something greater, being responsible for everything you say, how you say it, and how it will affect or be perceived by whoever asked.

In the same way that if you want to help someone climb a mountain you don't always show them your great pictures that you so proudly took of the sky and the horizon seen from the top,  you instead give them the gear necessary to climb and survive the weather, a map, and perhaps some words of encouragement.

[Raptorsin7]

@Crane Bahnsteik Have you read the whole thread?

[StarStruck]

17 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Life is not black and white.  The Absolute is

  But reality doesn't work that way.   If you live your life in the black and white you will.never get anywhere.  In life flexibility is everything 

 

I agree but I don't see how it is connected to what I said.

[Preety_India]

4 minutes ago, Crane Bahnsteik said:

Good decision.

Being so disconnected and unable to respond on the same contextual level of the question is the opposite of being conscious or awakened. 

Being conscious means that you are conscious of the present context and know how to navigate it while perhaps alluding to something greater, being responsible for everything you say, how you say it, and how it will affect or be perceived by whoever asked.

In the same way that if you want to help someone climb a mountain you don't always show them your great pictures that you so proudly took of the sky and the horizon seen from the top,  you instead give them the gear necessary to climb and survive the weather, a map, and perhaps some words of encouragement.

This ^beautiful. I love your posts. 

 

[Thetruthseeker]

5 minutes ago, Crane Bahnsteik said:

Good decision.

Being so disconnected and unable to respond on the same contextual level of the question is the opposite of being conscious or awakened. 

Being conscious means that you are conscious of the present context and know how to navigate it while perhaps alluding to something greater, being responsible for everything you say, how you say it, and how it will affect or be perceived by whoever asked.

In the same way that if you want to help someone climb a mountain you don't always show them your great pictures that you so proudly took of the sky and the horizon seen from the top,  you instead give them the gear necessary to climb and survive the weather, a map, and perhaps some words of encouragement.

@Crane Bahnsteik perfectly said! 

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Thetruthseeker said:

@Crane Bahnsteik perfectly said! 

@Crane Bahnsteik be careful.  That does not mean he was not enlightened.  Its a matter of bring able to relate on the personal level.  Its sinply a human skill and nothing more.  Be careful to not create the idea of what an awakened being is in your mind.  It's a trap.

[Recursoinominado]

It seems i am not the only one that felt this way with his posts lol

I love Advaita but damn, it can be really annoying and sometimes it does not help at all.

But this is but a cautionary tale for everyone here.

I will take this with me as I plan to teach spirituality in a near future.

One less trap.

[PurpleTree]

there is not @Nahm  how can he be demoted?

 

 

 

jk

called him the riddler a few times in threads but also got some really great stuff from him

i have no real problem with not understanding somebody sometimes

i think he was mostly a good/cute mod

maybe he was pushing his stuff a bit much but i don't know i don't think so generally

[Danioover9000]

   @Nahm posts may have been mostly Neo Advaita style communication, but sometimes he does communicate clearly when pressed. I had a thread about my life purpose a couple of months ago in the careers sub forum, and when I addressed all the responses to my OP, which included Nahm's, I replied to him that I was not at his level of spirituality, and I needed some practical advice that's clear to me, which he did conceded and gave a more clearer reply to me and a few pointers to refining myself. However, I understand why he had to get demoted. If this was an employee talking in riddles to an employer who just wanted a straight forward reply, then he had to go. I'll definitely be missing reading any further writings he did in this forum. He'll no doubt be missed though, just like @Forestluv and another mod I don't know about, here a while back.

   We can now officially say we have lost the original three mods of this forum. FF.  

[Forza21]

To be honest, Leo, he has neo-advaita talk, but your responses are even more confusing at times.  Nahm points at something which is thought-attachment and it's waaay easier to grasp.. However:

"There's only you"

"Only you can awaken"
"There's no Leo, it's only you. You are God"
"You are not a part of god, you are entire fucking God"
"No one else is God but you"
"No one else exists, only you"

etc. 

how is it different?

Edited February 21, 2022 by Forza21

[Recursoinominado]

1 minute ago, Forza21 said:

To be honest, Leo, he has neo-advaita talk, but your responses are even more confusing at times. 

"There's only you"

"Only you can awaken"
"There's no Leo, it's only you. You are God"
"You are not a part of god, you are entire fucking God"
"No one else is God but you"
"No one else exists, only you"

etc. 

how is it different?

I think it depends on the question.

Sometimes those answers are appropriate, but most time they aren't.

 

[puporing]

@Forza21 Because that's not what Leo says in every post/thread, he does give practical/relevant answers most of the time.

Edited February 21, 2022 by puporing

[njuufa]

I always understood the @Nahm who spoke love language.

 

[Revolutionary Think]

Dang that was a funny argument with yourself. 

[Derek White]

@Raptorsin7 Thank you and everyone else for sharing your experiences with Nahm's coaching. I remember when you were the biggest Nahm advocate, and that you were being personally coached by him. I couldn't help but noticing that you made almost zero progress and I would even say your posts indicated you went backwards. I always had a bad feeling about that. To me it seemed you just needed some practical pointers with enough spiritual understanding to steer you in the right direction in life. I would be very interested to know more about your experience, I suggest you post a review of your coaching experience with Nahm on a separate thread or on your personal journal. I would love to learn from it.

I don't think we can fully blame students like yourself for paying for bad teachers. The students by definition are confused and don't know any better. We cannot expect desperate people needing help to make sound decisions. I think it's the teachers responsibility.

 

Another point I would like to add; there is a confusion on the forum about what non-duality (a-dvaita) is. Thoughts, and things are real. The differences remain. They are true on one level and not true on another at the same time. It is called non-duality (not-two), and not "oneness" for a reason. It is not two and not one either. People who keep asserting the emptiness of things are not seeing the full picture and they are not helping anyone. 

 

@puporing Some of the guidelines are not enforced strictly enough. Like it says people with severe mental illnesses shouldn't be here yet we see suicidal posts sometimes. Leo should tell them to avoid the forum till they seek help and a build proper foundation.

Edited February 21, 2022 by Derek White

[StarStruck]

47 minutes ago, Forza21 said:

To be honest, Leo, he has neo-advaita talk, but your responses are even more confusing at times.  Nahm points at something which is thought-attachment and it's waaay easier to grasp.. However:

"There's only you"

"Only you can awaken"
"There's no Leo, it's only you. You are God"
"You are not a part of god, you are entire fucking God"
"No one else is God but you"
"No one else exists, only you"

etc. 

how is it different?

Those oneliners can be understood in one sweep. What Nahm says can only be understood if you read it 3 times, if you are lucky.

Edited February 21, 2022 by StarStruck

[Tim R]

1 minute ago, StarStruck said:

What Nahm says can only be understood if you read it 3 times, if you are lucky.

I just very recently understood a reply he gave me like 1,5 years ago? I appreciate it though. Probably still haven't understood it completely lol

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Forza21 said:

how is it different?

In a larger context, it isn't. It always leads to "you don't understand, you have to experience it." To give the impression that you can speak clearly about these things has an element of double bind.