Posted November 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Consept said: Remember when America wasnt really great but was a bit better than now - Oooooohhhh. Now I just want to cry. Democracy worked so well when we were stage blue. My Youtube Channel- Light on Earth “We dance round in a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and knows.”― Robert Frost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 GA update: newly counted votes in Chatham Co., GA (Savannah) just cut Trump's statewide lead to 3,635 votes (0.1%). There aren't many votes left, yet they are all in Dem strongholds. I predict Biden to narrowly pull ahead and a recount (and lots of lawsuits). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, mandyjw said: Oooooohhhh. Now I just want to cry. Democracy worked so well when we were stage blue. Imagine stage green It's just a phase we have to go through God is love Whoever lives in love lives in God And God in them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 Just now, Shin said: Imagine stage green It's just a phase we have to go through But I don't wanna. I just wanna be 4 again like it's 1992. My Youtube Channel- Light on Earth “We dance round in a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and knows.”― Robert Frost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, mandyjw said: But I don't wanna. I just wanna be 4 again like it's 1992. Simpler times. Pleasant memories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 I miss Pink Floyd times, Another Brick in the Wall not the wall Trump was asking for Lol The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth—it is the truth which conceals that there is none. The simulacrum is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, Forestluv said: GA update: newly counted votes in Chatham Co., GA (Savannah) just cut Trump's statewide lead to 3,635 votes (0.1%). There aren't many votes left, yet they are all in Dem strongholds. I predict Biden to narrowly pull ahead and a recount (and lots of lawsuits). How many outstanding votes are left? About 26,000? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 Just now, abrakamowse said: I miss Pink Floyd times, Another Brick in the Wall not the wall Trump was asking for Lol Oh shit! I totally forgot about the wall. Whatever happened, he realized that viruses can get over walls? My Youtube Channel- Light on Earth “We dance round in a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and knows.”― Robert Frost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 Trump isn't very bright. You actually need a case to bring to the supreme court. Does he think the supreme court is some personal decision maker for him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 Meanwhile Steve Bannon is calling to behead Fauci and The FBI director as if we were in the Tudor times in a monarchy https://www.mediamatters.org/steve-bannon/steve-bannon-and-his-co-host-discuss-beheading-dr-anthony-fauci-and-fbi-director The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth—it is the truth which conceals that there is none. The simulacrum is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 @Forestluv Thank you very much for taking the time to post these updates on the thread. Your posts have been very useful in providing us a broad picture of the electoral process, and what/what not to expect. Much obliged. Release me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, mandyjw said: Oh shit! I totally forgot about the wall. Whatever happened, he realized that viruses can get over walls? ??? He realized that if he doesn’t do any testing there won’t be more positives Problem Solved!!!! ? The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth—it is the truth which conceals that there is none. The simulacrum is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hardkill said: How many outstanding votes are left? About 26,000? Yea. About 22,000 in Dem stronghold and about 4k military. And a bunch of provisional. It looks like Biden will take a very small lead - perhaps 1-2k. I don't see GA being called for Biden. Yet it's still significant for Biden to be the "presumptive winner" in GA during the extended process of military, provisional counting and a recount. Trump's strategy is largely dependent upon narrative control and optics. If Biden has the lead in GA, it undercuts Trump's ability to control narrative and optics. It's another point in which he appears as a loser and needs to play defense. Trump was clearly the defensive posture of a candidate on the losing side of a close election. Trump looks awful playing defense - he much prefers controlling the narrative with offense. Trump would MUCH rather be in Biden's position right now. He would be full-throated offense demanding Biden concede. If Biden is narrowly ahead in NV, AZ, PA and GA there will be a lot of calls for him to concede. He will be like a cornered rat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 Walk of shame, after a low energy speech full of lies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said: Trump just made another speech. Trying to pull a coup like in a 3rd wold country. Gaslighting, lying, leading his base towards a civil war. No surprise. This is actually hilarious hes bitching about votes being counted, their not 'finding' votes theyre counting them. Hes also moaning about the media reporting while at the same time his supporters see him as a free speech fighter, this is just comical now, just take the L and go back to your tower Edited November 6, 2020 by Consept If you liked whatever i said in this post, check out my youtube channel for actual me talking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 @Frylock Part of the process is narrative control and public perception. If Biden is viewed as the presumptive winner (pending a couple recounts) - Trump becomes the presumptive loser playing defense. It would be much harder for him to get support from the GOP, DOJ, courts etc. At the end of the day, politicians are still politicians. Republicans that won elections are positioning themselves for the future. They would stay neutral, rather than tie themselves to Trump. It's similar to an alpha wolf on the decline. To me, Trump's tone is shifting toward blaming others for his loss, rather than fighting for a win. He still has some fight left in him, yet much less than previously, imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mikael89 said: Currently Biden has 3.939 million more popular votes than Trump. To maybe put it into perspective.. the entire population of Finland is 5.518 million. And it's still a close race between them. Imagine if Trump would win despite the fact that Biden got much more votes. 4 years ago when Trump won over Hillary, Hillary got 3 million more popular votes, but still lost. If I would be american that bs would make me furious. It kinda makes me furious now too. Yup. ‘Murrica. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Mikael89 said: Currently Biden has 3.939 million more popular votes than Trump. To maybe put it into perspective.. the entire population of Finland is 5.518 million. And it's still a close race between them. Imagine if Trump would win despite the fact that Biden got much more votes. 4 years ago when Trump won over Hillary, Hillary got 3 million more popular votes, but still lost. If I would be american that bs would make me furious. It kinda makes me furious now too. On topic: I think Biden will probably win.. Yep, electoral college is a joke. We place empty land more valuable over people, was used as a boon for slave owners. Time to get rid of it already. Edited November 6, 2020 by Frylock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 6, 2020 PA update: earlier today Trump won a couple lawsuits to give Republican poll watchers greater access. By law, a political party can have representatives observing the vote counting process. The court ruled that PA election officials were not giving Trump's team enough access for meaningful observation to take place. They ruled that Republican poll watchers be allowed withing 6 ft of vote counting, yet could not interfere. I actually like this ruling. This is an important aspect of democracy. As well, it is important for framing. The PA courts look mature and reasonable. And, ruling in Trump's favor and allowing greater observation access greatly undercuts Trump's claim of shady vote counting behind closed doors. The room now has plenty of Republican vote watchers. (I also read PA was livestreaming the vote counting, which would be awesome for transparency. I hope livestreaming of vote counting becomes the norm for all elections. PA update 2: A federal judge just denied Trump's attempt to stop the vote counting in PA - but ordered officials to expand the number of people each side could have in the room. To me, this is the ideal ruling. It allows vote counting to continue and undercuts Trump's claims that there is fraudulent vote counting. So far, the courts are making good rulings - imo. One of the biggest factors is allowing PA vote counting. Assuming estimates of uncounted votes, Biden is now a heavy favorite to claim the lead in PA and when he does, it shifts the narrative. I'm impressed by how PA is conducting their election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
